 To me, the biggest danger with what Jordan is doing is his connection of morality with religion and the idea that morality cannot exist outside of religion. I think that's a very, very dangerous trend because it means, in spite of his interpretation of Abraham, which is completely bullshit, it means morality is authoritarian. That's the essence of the story of Abraham. You kill your son because I told you to. Morality is whatever I tell you to, not that I'm God, but if I was. And it's very religious morality, it's always authoritarian morality. Well I think it shows, by the way, that even sophisticated thinkers, and I don't mean to be patronizing, but he is a sophisticated thinker who's got great depth and I know it is better than most, can still be prone to being parasitized by idea pathogens, right? So in his case, his particular blind spot, and perhaps we all have blind spots, some will argue that my blind spot is that I love animals, but yet I eat burgers. That's my behavioral blind spot, perhaps, but his blind spot is I think that given his own religious bent, he has constructed an epistemology that is quite puzzling to most of us who otherwise respect him for his intellect and other domains. Well, and it's an outcome of his metaphysics because his metaphysics, that's where he goes, he gets it wrong. His metaphysics is, to some extent, a kind of primacy of consciousness metaphysics. Reality exists because we think of it. And it's not reality's independent of our own consciousness and our consciousness job, if you will, is to identify what is out there, it's to identify it and then integrate it and reason, use it for thinking. So I think he goes wrong in metaphysics and then that kind of takes him away. But that's religion. That's religion.