 This week on fanservice, we discussed... Oh. This week on fanservice, we discussed anime 180s. My first 3D experience? I'll explain a little about Future Diary. And process meets. Yeah, they did a Squidward spinoff. It's when he goes to Squidville. That's what I was gonna say. There we go. And I think that's all you need. We got it. We already got it. You got it. We got the spinoff. The only Spongebob, like, new spinoff I would accept... Anime Spongebob. We've already got the OPs for you. They're all over YouTube. And maybe that's our intro to the show. Anime Spongebob? Anime Spongebob. Yeah, let's go ahead and start it. Sure. Welcome to fanservice. Future Diaries official anime podcast. Yeah, that's it. Not anime Spongebob. But if only. If only. If only. I'd join. I'd be the president of the Spongebob. President Fiona. President Spongebob official podcast. We're the Secret Service. What would you call an Anime Spongebob podcast? Spongebob. But you have to say it that way. Spongebob. Spongebob. But I'd call myself Cole because I'm one of the hosts of the show. Hi Cole. I'm Miles. I'm also a host on the show. I am Issa. I'm here often. A very special guest with us. Very. Very special guest. Fiona the Spongebob. Fiona. How's it going? What's that? Fiona. Hi. Welcome. Hi. Fiona is like the biggest anime fan outside of the animation department. Yes. I am. Even bigger than most people in the animation department. So we knew we had to get her on. Actually, like somebody tweeted at us this week because we're going to talk about my hero. Thank God. But yeah, you tweeted about Kami Nari? No. Kirito. Kirito. Kirito. The recent episode came out. Yes. I knew Kirito was going to get his line, like his line. Yeah. Have you read the manga? I know bits and pieces of it. Okay. But like I don't want to read it because I kind of lose track sometimes. Yes. Like it's a lot and then I forget a week and then I'm, you know, I forget months. There you go. That just happened to me where I was like, oh, I didn't read the past weeks. I went back, I'm like 20 weeks behind. Yeah, yeah. It happened so fast. It happened so fast. And then now you have to catch up and you're like, what's going on? And then yeah. But no, I just follow the anime for my hero. Really like nice. Nice. Like that. Yeah. Every Saturday morning. Yeah. You tweeted about it this weekend and people are like, hey, you guys should get Fiona on fan service. I was like, well. Well, funny. Funny thing. Funny thing. Yeah. Nice. So yeah. Welcome to the show. Thanks. Thanks so much. Tell us about yourself, Fiona. What's you? What are you watching? What I'm watching. Finish Demon Slayer. Nice. Okay. Cool, cool, cool. ESPN with the guest appearance. ESPN. I love that. I'm on episode 10. I finished episode 10. I'm slowly getting there. Oh my god. Dude, I mean, it was each episode was just like a. Yeah. So good. It was so good. I was talking recent just to get on Demon Slayer, but I was talking cool about this yesterday. Yeah. I was like, I'm watching it today. Where I was kind of just like, you know, I'm watching it and I'm into it. Right. It's like, oh, shit. Like that's the one show for some reason, all the episodes, you are, they go by so quickly. And that's like frightening how every episode goes by so quickly. And you're like, okay. Well, I want to watch the other one. It's like, I, I get exhausted because of how fucked up it is. Not because of the pacing of the show. But then one of the conversations I was having with someone else, I was just like, well, we're into the show. We're at the same point. Why is it? Why was it that episode 19 changes everything? What happens there that makes, that turns the show because we're into it already? Yeah. Why is episode 19 special? I'm going to go, I'm going to go on and let me say like episode 19 was not a big deal to me as it was to everybody else. If it's episode that I think it is. Wait, what? Yeah, what? Yes. Earmuffs real quick. Earmuffs real quick. Oh, right. And this will be a spoiler, a quick spoiler. Is it when he does the flame dance? Yeah. Here's my thing. Okay, you can come back. You can come back. I thought it was very cool. It really changed to me. I was like, oh, that's fucking tight. You also knew about it going in. Did I? Yeah, because we had talked about it beforehand. That was like, that was the episode because I had kind of like taken a break. Like I was a few episodes behind and then the internet blew up. I mean, it also has like the best animation of the show. It absolutely does. I mean, it changed for me. I was, I watched. I was like, I had to rewatch it because I was just like that. I don't know what I couldn't process it. It got me back into watching it. And then I also read the manga and caught up after that. Because I remember when talking about episode 19, I think I was preparing for some sort of big sort of narrative thing or plot thing. And I get it is a little bit. But to me, it was more of like a, it was more of a technical thing where I was like, oh, fuck yeah, that's tight as shit. It also kind of plays not in the, not in the same feeling, but it's also, that's kind of where the show is kicking off. That's like the, the first big twist. It's like, hey, you thought you knew what the show, you thought you knew what he was. We'll see. We'll see. I don't, I don't, I realized like, I want to be very big. Yeah. Not spoiled. Yeah. It's good. So it's good. Demon Slayer. I had tweeted it. It's like, Demon Slayer is hype in all like caps. And then a minute, like 30 minutes later, I was like, this show is too fucked up. I'm going to take a break. That's going to be careful. Demon Slayer is hyped. People are like, oh, don't you love it when this happens? No one has said anything. People are, people are kind. Well, be careful now. Now that you're. I know. Yeah. Watch your Twitter feed. I know. Demon Slayer. I tried. I started Dr. Stone. Oh, I had a hard time getting into it. I don't know why. How far in did you get? Two episodes. And I'll be like, if I'm not interested in it, I just, yeah, I just don't really watch it. There's something we'll have to talk about eventually. Like people often give like the three episode where it's like, oh, you watched two or three episodes. And if you don't like it by then that's completely fine. I say if you don't like it after one episode, you don't have to keep watching. Yeah. The same. Yeah. Because it's. It was crazy because when we've talked about a little bit on the show before, the manga switched main characters after the first like six chapters. Okay. Where you feel like it's the lovers. Yes. No, it's the celery head. Thank you. They realized that he was a bigger selling point for the manga. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. And they flipped it over. Once you get out of that first arc, that's people who like Dr. Stone like that one. They stopped watching the episode right before everything gets better. One of these days I'll go back and I'll try to get it. That's also, it should have been good from the beginning. Yeah. So you're going to lose people if you're not good from the beginning. Yeah. I mean like I'm also watching Fire Force and like that first episode got me medium. All right. I'm going to watch it. I didn't like Fire Force first. I like it now. You like it now. I like it now. So like from what episode was it that changed your opinion? Or like. So my problem was all the way through like episode five. Yeah. I'm like the, I'm not the biggest fan of like the, what's it? Lucky pervert. Yeah. Yeah. And there's a character who is that, like who is the definition, textbook definition of that. Yeah. And I, so, but I can also put that aside. I can also be like, okay, well that's. That's one thing. Comic relief. That's not the story that's. Right. It does invade the story sometimes. Yes. But I can put it aside. What I had trouble with was when newbie characters were on par with seasoned professionals and there was no like reason. It's like, oh, you are just new to this Fire Force. Like you're just new to this team. Why are you able to take on this other division who seems like they've been together for years and all of a sudden a full on squad on squad battle where they have more people who are seasoned veterans, you newbies are able to come in and take it. Yeah. Yeah. As someone that hasn't watched Fire Force, are you telling me that there's competitive firefighting in this? Is that what's happening? Not too far off. They're like, this is a training because essentially Fire Force is very, did you ever watch Premier? No, I haven't watched Premier. So it's kind of, well, not really. People are spontaneously combusting and that's like a thing that happens on Earth now. To be fair to the point that you just made, that is like, that's a similarity that is not common. Two stories about people exploding. I think it's fair to say that they're similar. And so the Fire Department, the Fire Forces are groups of people who use fire magic? Of course. Of course. Of course. To fight against, are you, wait, the people who are spontaneously combusting because they turn into like demons. Cole. Yeah. The fuckers are fighting fire with fire? Yeah. 100%. Sometimes. Sometimes ice. Sometimes. A big shield. He just wants to know about the fire. I just wanted that one. I just need that one. It was essentially, because I really wanted to like Sakura Hibana. I was like, she's very good. But that was like, they like, this is easy. And then after they started introducing, oh, here are challenges and you're going to have to use like your brain. There's also a character who I didn't understand at first. One of my roommates put it as, he's a character who took all of, when leveling up, took all of his points out of intellect and put it in strength. And so the first fight you, like one of the first fights you see, he's losing very badly. And then he realizes that he is right-handed. And then he wins the fight. That's like, that's like Deku forgot he had legs times 10. Yeah. I was actually going to compare. I was like, if you don't like the fact that the main, the protag's so like OP compared to like season professionals, do you care about that when it comes to Deku? Because I feel like Deku does have that advantage. Deku, Deku, see I trusted with Deku because he learned, like Deku's like strength always was his knowledge and that he researched how to like, so like Deku still also kind of, loses. He does, yeah. He loses all the time in the first season. And even the second season, actually he loses pretty much like the first two seasons. The first two seasons he loses every time other people come and save him. The fact when he actually starts winning is a major plot point. Like Baku goes like, who the fuck did you become and how? Like they make a point to like comment on that through other characters. But even then like the school tournament arc he loses against Stain, he technically loses. Like it's all the way, he keeps losing, losing, losing. He does keep on losing. Before we get too far away from it, you know, mentioning something early about like, you give a episode, you know, you have a show this many episodes and then you either give up or like maybe it'll, you know, it'll change your tune on it. What is a show that you have done, a show or a character that you've made the biggest 180 on? As a put, like maybe you start off absolutely hating the show and then it gets to a certain moment. Baka Monogatari. Baka Monogatari. Yes. That's the vampire one that you showed me, right? Yes. Is that the movies or is that the series? I showed you the movies. The series, it was at a point in time where I wasn't ready for that directing style. What is Baka Monogatari for those that don't know? One sentence. I don't want to trigger a cold experience here, but the best way I can put it is it is a supernatural drama where a guy is helping people he interacts with, with supernatural phenomena that are affecting them. Okay. Okay. So like the first character, like first two episodes is he's dealing with a girl who is weightless. Like she has to stick school supplies in her skirt to keep herself weighed down on the ground. Otherwise she'll fly away. That's great. Okay. So you just weren't a fan of it at first. And I remember you showed me the films and they do have a very unique directing style. Yes. He does a lot of interesting things. It's just a really unique form of directing. Yeah. And so like the first time I watched it I was like, I can't really process this. Do I need to pause every time, because they do a lot of things where like when scene changes they'll flip to a black panel and it'll say like black and then it'll flip to something else and it'll be like almost like subconscious messaging where just flashes a bunch of words that you super quickly and if you can read Japanese you're supposed to be able to understand. So like do I need to pause and read but that's also defeating the purpose of it being subconscious. Yeah. I would almost liken it to, and this is not a great one for one comparison, but kind of the later episodes of Evangelion in the way that they're just kind of throwing some imagery at you in really quick succession, except rather than imagery it's kanji. It's yeah. Yeah. And yeah, it's like it can be as well as like different colors like the different colors mean different things. Like every time there's red they're supposed to be like blood somewhere. Every time it's black it's when somebody closes their eyes and like, but it's all significant. It's really weird. Yeah. I dug it, but I also watched it later into my anime life. Okay. Your anime life. So it took a while for me to come back around on to it. Another one was Attack on Titan. I hated Attack on Titan the first episode. Yeah. I was like, I don't want to see these big ugly dudes running around. I don't want that. Yeah. I mean, well yeah, Attack on Titan I loved it like from the first episode so that's a bad example. But I think I had a hard time full metal alchemist just weird. But like the first couple episodes or like maybe just the story like if someone were to explain it to me I was just not like, I don't really care to watch it like it's whatever. But I mean, I fucking, I binged that shit in like a day. Yeah. I was like, it was super good. I think it was kind of in the same boat because not too long ago I wanted to re-watch Brotherhood. Yeah. And like, I think there's always like which one's better? The OG, I think they're different. I don't know if one is I think probably I'd say like technically speaking I think Brotherhood's better. I would wager to say you should actually watch both. I think you should. I definitely think you should watch the original before you watch Brotherhood because I think Brotherhood respects your time more. But either way, I started re-watching Brotherhood and I also tried kind of re-watching the first one and both the first few episodes I was like, I don't want to be here. I want to be where I know this is going. It's hard for me to re-watch that series. I knew at a point it was going to get really good. There's just like that time to get there. I don't know. It was hard for me to get into it at first but then when I was in it I was like, oh man. It's kind of like when they're all like, hey Death Stranding gets great after 10 hours. Yeah. It's like, do I really want to do all that? It's not. Full Metal Alchemist is not about Full Metal Alchemist is great. Actually with Full Metal Alchemist I would actually say there's like a true watch watching way where it's you watch, I don't know, you watch up until the phone booth of the original series. Then at that point you switch over to Brotherhood. Whoa! Interesting. Brotherhood Episode 1 or Brotherhood from the phone booth? From the phone booth. Interesting. Because I think it does a better job with Shell Tucker. Have you done that? Have you watched it like that? It totally works? No, but I should. I should. Dude, leave the comments. If that works, if you've watched it because I think that's super interesting. It does a better job of building up May Hughes. It does a better job of building up Shell Tucker because like, I mean when you see Brotherhood you know Shell Tucker's bad from the beginning. When you watch the original series. Yeah, there is like a difference in time too because what is it? It's definitely clear Brotherhood, they only spend a certain amount of time repeating what happens. Right, they were like we've just done this before. To their credit, it's like they know their fucking audience here. Which I think was really smart of them to do. But I think Cole is correct in that the way that the first one did it, pretty good. Because that was when they still had a longer reference. Right. So they did take their time with the original. Around after that is where they lost the longer reference and they were like well let's and they had a great story on their own. I will still say I think though I think I probably prefer Brotherhood I find the explanation for Alchemy in the original series infinitely more interesting. I think that is such a cool concept as to like how Alchemy works in a multi-dimensional universe scope. Thought that she was fucking chef's kiss. Love that. Show or character. Evangelion. Evangelion. 100. Oh. You went from hating it to liking it or like mutating it? Hating to love. I don't know if I feel like I mentioned this before or once I tell this story often I shit on Evangelion for episodes one to 16 like we were marathoning it and all I did was just like talk shit straight you know I was just like Shinji's a piece of shit I fucking hate Oscar. What is the only good person in this entire group? Like why are people so shitty in this entire show? And then 16 happens and that is like look that is the term they actually use is like the mind rape episode and oh my fucking god I was silent for the rest of these other than me crying like yeah other than that silent crying silent crying and then like when the show would stop but yeah that was the most interesting time with the one I remember the most where I remember just shutting up just being like oh I was wrong yeah I really because I watched Ava much later like I watched it when it came on Netflix that was the first time I saw it I didn't want to like it I was like okay this has been like a gatekeeper show for so long people been like you're not a real anime fan unless you watched Ava I was like I like the anime I've never watched it either and I was like I was like so I don't like I don't know it seems old I've watched other old stuff that's like okay it's good and it was good for the time Ava was like good for now if they like they made this like now like this today and at least that now it would still be amazing well that exact thing like that exact I'm still going to watch all the rebuilds I think it's been long enough yeah I think there's something to be said about like why Ava is such a classic because I think there's so many base ideas in Ava that's just like it still works I just it's hard to like perfect execution yeah with all of their like allegories and metaphors yeah visually and just how they built it ugh there's just there's just so much though like I get overwhelmed when anyone says like oh even Galleon watch this then watch this oh yeah so like is it just there's like three series already on Netflix and it's all like different names it's like where do you start it's like the Evangelius series yes and then end of Evangelion I would put some time between those experiences I really really would yeah cause Death and Rebirth are just recaps of the series yeah it's a clip show yeah where's coming up I very much enjoyed the series and I thought the film was interesting it's kind of where it came from me but yeah okay I also have my onions with me with your onions oh we may have talked about this I prefer the series I'm one of the people who like prefer the series and Carrie and I will argue about this I prefer the series over the rebuild okay and I prefer the series over the movies and the rebuild is just the clip show right well no the rebuild is also slightly different it's different like structurally yeah so those are the ones that are on Netflix original series original series and then a different studio the spiritual successor studio the rebuild and the first one is pretty much just a retelling the first one's practically a retelling it's a remake the second one is where it differentiates it starts to split off and the third one is completely different story than what happened it feels almost like a more of like a fun what if like what if things were slightly different we all know the story let's see if we attacked it from a different way and there was some different I was always confused about it because it's just like there's so much happening with it so it's like I don't even know where to start so why should I but yeah exactly I understand what you mean yeah if you ever get the chance to watch the series definitely yeah if the series that I have to start with yeah yeah but it is I think it is as cool it's like well it's still very still very much of a thing but I do prefer the series over any of the other movies that they have made okay yeah if only because I like the message at the end yeah yeah it ends a bit more hopeful for me as opposed to as opposed to some of the other shit some of the other content out there Tokyo Ghoul first season of Tokyo Ghoul like I've never seen Tokyo Ghoul I hate things when they're so depressing there's like no light of hope there's absolutely easier and it's like that's not how life works like obviously bad shit happens something good eventually haplike something balances and I'm like it doesn't just like it's just a slap on his face constantly also your fiction you get to make it happy you get to write it happy I can't I don't want to watch some kid be depressed depressed and tortured and like I don't want to for no reason yeah are we talking about Evangelion or Tokyo Ghoul Tokyo Ghoul that's it that's it points and laughs I don't see the difference yeah that's why I can't watch Black Mirror oh yeah I can't watch Black Mirror I get that have you watched Darker Than Black oh yeah you guys have watched it yeah I haven't watched that since college I barely remember that I just remember being like lightning badman I kind of I don't like strings right and he was like like he was he was kudo or black and then there was the other members of his team right it was like silver, yeah like in or something oh man this is a throwback yeah cause I also watch it in college and for some reason in my brain I cannot I always mix up Tokyo Ghoul and Darker Than Black huh they're same like color palettes I think so I think same field dreary raining all the time sadness crying I think with Tokyo Ghoul there's also a scene where they're on a rooftop and the one thing I remember from Darker Than Black is always rooftop it's always the rooftop that's where you're gonna use your dagger knife now I'm like what a fucking anime ass title we must go Darker Than Black and then I met Cole and was like oh there's shows called like my sister is a teenage dungeon and I think I like her but she's also a demon seven question marks and I was like oh no that's an anime title oh man yeah anyway that's a throwback that's a throwback I'm seeing that's the actual title that was a really fun thing the first time I got to go to Japan for Ruby Volume 3 stuff we had dinner with a lot of the folks there from WBJ and a few I don't think this was there but there were a few other folks from a few different studios and we had we had dinner that night and because we were like the foreign guests like I remember our Takaya-san was like hey it would be really cool I know you guys probably feel more comfortable together but like if y'all actually sat at different tables because everybody here wants to talk to you guys cause y'all are the fucking white boys and I was like are you sure yeah and what my table turned into like you know Gray's probably like he's talking like business stuff and like Carey's talking like animation stuff my table was like what's your favorite show and we discovered this really fun thing where I was like I can't remember what I was watching at the time for oh I was talking about Devil Is A Part Timer is my favorite it's like my new favorite comedy anime and they're like devil what is that and I was like and then I pulled up a picture of it and they're like St. Satan is the Lord of McDonald's oh that movie and then we played this game where we started trying to be like okay what's your favorite show and that would be like this and then you go okay what could that possibly be and then we would try like it was so much fun it was so much fun yeah like the American titles are just different versions of the gap yeah I think a fun drinking game like whoever it's like yeah I guess Boruto's dad oh my god I want to play that so wait hold on actually what is what is the actual translation of Kimetsu no Yaiba then what's that Demon Slayer that's the actual Japanese title Kimetsu no Yaiba oh that's right like when people like Bokunohiro and I'm like I just call it my hero I fucking own it yeah I'm not that level I'll get up Kohli I'm not gonna be like oh you mean Bokunoh I'm just gonna shut the fuck up do you mean Bokunoh I'm like be chaotic be like you mean my Bokunoh macademia I would hate that so Kimetsu so at a cursory google search it was annihilation blade blade of annihilation okay cool well isn't that also like attack on Titan the shingeki no kyogen yeah that's right does that mean something else as well or maybe I'm it's like advance on Titan something yeah it might yeah I think the no is usually possessive or of yeah they say Yaiba a lot in the show and I'm like oh blade blade of sword in the show so I'm like oh but it's not demon's line it's not no no they had to switch it up have you watched all like almost all the anime on Netflix or are you just no no there's a lot there's a lot there's so many but it's like some of it is just like yeah yeah well Netflix I like it but it's also like not what I'm gonna watch they have a lot of like kiddie stuff like they have like pretty cure and stuff like that well I mean I know pretty cure is a huge male fan base that's basically like the bronies yeah interesting so pretty cure is a magical girl show okay it has blah mass animation it's like Sailor Moon okay it's like Sailor Moon but it has blah mass animation it's okay looks really good like that term sakuga I guess of like really really cool animation high budget whatever the term has become but it's basically very good animation a lot of it actually comes from the pretty cure series wow yeah it's wow I feel like the only anime I watched on Netflix was Adjin which was on Netflix like two years ago or something. I think, and I don't care for like, it's like, it's like hard cause like an anime you see, you always see 2D, and then all of a sudden it's 3D. It's like, oh, that's a change. Okay, yeah, but yeah. Oh, sorry, go ahead. No, no, no, but it was just like, I would see it and I'm like, okay, this is, all right, yeah, yeah. I'm into it. Did you check out Land of the Lustrous? Yes. That is one that I think takes great advantage of the fact that it is a 3D medium. And I love that now. Like it's like 3D is like now, I think maybe one of my favorites at any time. Yeah. Just like. They utilize it super well in Demon Slayer too. And I'm seeing more and more and more shows. They use it so intelligently. There's so many, every time we, when I'm watching Demon Slayer, whenever there's a 3D shot, we always go 3D. Yeah, me too. And it's like, and we're always like, oh, hey, good 3D. Like every time we don't ever stop. But it's like you said, it's very smart the way they use it. Because it's always just for walking shots or like wide shots. And it's like. We don't need to fucking worry about this. It's like, oh, what a good use of your fucking time. Yeah, I saw the worst 3D. I was at a point. Was it Berserk? Yes, that's bad too. That's really bad. But it was Zombieland Saga. Oh, I love it so much. But the 3D is so bad. The 3D is so bad. But like why? Just animate it. That's the idle one, right? Yes, it's so good. It's so bad. It happens at parts. And I'm like, I literally have to turn this off. I cannot watch it. While we're on the topic, too, did you guys see that Zombieland 2 is doing a crossover with Zombieland Saga? What does that mean? I don't fucking know. It's like when Splatoon did the Squid Girl crossover, I was like, yes! I don't really give a shit about Zombieland 2. Yeah, that was like. How does that work? It made me care about Zombieland 2. Nice, good one. That's what made you the Zombieland Saga. Yeah, I was like, I love that. All these girls and this very good boy. That manager is the funniest. Oh, yeah, that's right. He's fucking funny. Yeah, that's right, I remember. That's when he's bad, though. Yeah, I'm just letting you know. So funny, fun fact, I was one of the times I was in LA and Reyna Scully was still in LA. I spent a whole day with her. And we actually talked about that. I was just like, oh, yeah, the 3D versus 2D. We were talking about some misconceptions that we were really frustrated about when it came to what people had said before. And one of the things she mentioned was like, once again, this term barrier of entry, she's like, but 2D is actually so much more accessible globally. Because when it's 3D, it's that barrier of entry where people automatically look for that weird uncanny valley. Right. You're just looking for all the, you automatically see all the bad stuff instead of what works. Yeah, and I feel like it's because in Demislayer, they do it so well because they transition perfectly into it. Whereas, and Ajin did it because it's the entire thing 3D. Yeah. There's no like, swishing, just that's all 3D. So your eyes just get used to it at a point. But when it's like, Zombieland, Saga, for example, just, OK, cut, literally the frame after it's all 3D for another three minutes. 2D, you're getting less visual information than you are from 3D. And so if you set this constant of this is the amount of information you're getting and your brain is having to fill in the gaps or everywhere else, and then suddenly you increase that intake of visual stimulus and information and then take it away again, it's like, that shit. It's too much. It stands out. Yeah, it makes it bad. Yeah, that's interesting. Yeah, because Zombieland, Saga, they'll cut in. They'll cut literally the next frame. And it'll be for a couple minutes, too. It won't just be like a second or like five seconds. It's just literally. I think that's all budget based. What kind of shots are they using 3D? It's them dancing, running around, dancing on stage. And then it'll cut into them doing the exact move. Then it'll pop back out to the wide shot of them all moving around. Wide 2D inserts 3D. Wide 3D inserts 2D. 2D, yeah. Oh, OK. Yeah, Love Life does that a lot, too. Yeah, Love Life. Only their models in 3D is probably bad. Idol Master does all 2D. Yeah, it's like watching it on a mobile game or like if you're watching a game, it's like these 3D models, like dancing and stuff. And then all of a sudden, it's anime. Because they want to get the close-ups. They want to get the facial detail and stuff. And when it's like, oh, when it's all wide, we can almost do mocap. Like, I remember the first anime with 3D that popped out to me was Beck Mongolian Chop Squad. They'll do the guitar shots really close-up. Like, it's like, bam, we're in 3D land. Check out this sick riff. I'm like, I don't need to. I don't want to put it back, please. The first 3D I saw was in the Inuyasha ending. Where it's just a 3D mountain that it spins around. And it's the same every time we get there, we go 3D! Oh my god, that's the funniest answer to it. Your first 3D is there. Inuyasha? Wow, that's hilarious. Kagome! Kagome! I need to watch that again. People shouting Inuyasha and Kagome will forever be more, like, closer to my heart than people shouting Kanada and Tetsuya. Tetsuya. I'm like, no, it's all about Inuyasha and Kagome. Oh my god. No one gets squished. Oh man, I feel like that could be, like, OK, Boomer, kind of. Stop. Is it Boomer or Inuyasha? You're a millennial. No, any Boomers are there for Akira. Millennials are there for Inuyasha. Yeah, exactly. You're a millennial, Miles. No respect. No respect. Avocado. I don't remember what the fucking meme is anymore. Is millennial good or bad now? Who gives a shit? We've come full circle. We all know that. We all just ate each other, that's all we've established. Yeah, we're all shitty people. Let's see, what else have you been watching? Let's see, so my hero, I watched, and really, I really like The Promised Land. Oh, hey. Yeah, I watched it, and it's, oh shit. I keep thinking, because I'm just now getting caught up on Recreators, because I put that off for way too fucking long, and I just got to the point where I realized, oh, this is Shirabako, but with metaphors. Yeah, yeah. And, uh, uh. Have you heard of Recreators? No. So it is a show about, like, about characters from video games, manga, music videos, stuff, anime, coming to the real world. And they're all, what's it called, Recreators? Recreators, it's an Amazon Prime video, which is why I feel like it hasn't gotten a ton of traction. It was part of their anime strike. It is. It is. It's very good. It is very quickly becoming one of my favorite anime I've ever seen. It is ultimately about the relationship of each side being equal, a creator, their creation, and their audience, and how each of them belong to themselves and each other. Yes. Wow. It was awful. Yeah, it cried twice so far. Oh yeah, the crying will continue. I think it's really like a person who makes stuff. Yeah. It's a very much, it's a very poignant anime. Have you gotten to that, uh, recap? Yes, the recap was very cool. Yeah, I enjoyed the recap. It's the best. There's a moment, there was a moment in one episode that just made me laugh where they're trying, they are searching for something, and they are searching for that thing through the means that they have to themselves as like creators of content. And at some point someone's like, we need to stop thinking like creators and need to start thinking like the audience and fans because there's fansites and OCs and things like that. And there's a line in there where it's like, yeah, it's hard to forget that fans and creators think very differently from time to time. And I'm sitting here like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're currently, we're currently watching a Ruby fandom that is dead set on something happening in this volume that definitely isn't happening in this volume. And we're going, why do they think this is going to happen? This voice coming back? No, it's like, I can't wait for the shopping montage. And I'm like, why are people waiting for a shopping montage? We had the episode because, you know, all the Ruby characters have new outfits and stuff. We had the episode where they got new outfits and stuff. And it's like, well, I still think we're going to get a shopping montage. And I'm like, wait for what? Wait, this is breaking for stand. I don't understand the fact that I'm ever fan service breaking news. No, there's no shopping montage in Ruby. I literally had to talk with Eddie and Kay about how I shouldn't bring this up on Twitter. And instead I brought it up on a fucking talk show. Which is probably worse. But it's interesting though, because like, you know, you'll get, I don't know if it's, there's no way it's just Ruby. But like, there's a dangerous thing that happens when people have enough time to speculate and form their own opinions. And then they get locked on to the idea that the community has had and they really like that. And then when the show doesn't do that, people get really upset. And it's like, that was the thing that we're just like, there's not gonna be a fucking shopping montage, you guys. I'm sorry, it's not a thing. There's a lot more stuff that needs to happen in this volume to make time for a fucking shopping montage. I'm sorry. Anyways. And I can't even imagine like how that happens with y'all where it's all improv. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. And people are like, well I expected this to happen. Yeah, I mean it's like, we literally do shit sit like on the fly. Which is like, if it happens, it happens. There is no script. That's the thing, like people want like that Uno the movie too. When that first movie was like super improved and super like random. It was a mistake basically. Most people, by the way, real quick audience, Fiona does Let's Play stuff with Achievement Hunter. And if you're not familiar with her content. Achievement Hunter, yeah. Look him up. Yeah, no one knows in there. I'm sure our audience definitely hasn't heard of Achievement Hunter. Anime Achievement Hunter. I don't know if Anime Achievement Hunter fans are allowed. I don't know. Oh no. But yeah, no, so like things like happen and it just happens and you can't really do it. Yeah. It's just, if it happens, it happens, you know. And it's like, well I would have done this. It's like, okay, cool. Okay, cool, yeah, well. Come in. Why are you coming in? And you do it. No, but I feel like I've seen that a lot in like fandoms where it's just like people want this specific thing. And it's like the creators are looking at a bigger picture thing. Like, and they're looking at, oh, this will happen because this will happen and the guy's like, I want them to kiss. Yeah. Yeah, I want them to kiss. But that's also the thing, if they never kiss, then the audience is like, okay, well. Yeah. Why will I trust you? Yeah, I can't trust you. There should be one kiss a season. I want them to kiss. Looks like him. But anyways, promise never land. Yes. And on a show I desperately need to watch. Did you? Is it done? Or the season? No, the season's done, but I did, I started reading the manga. They just announced the second season. Yeah, they did, yeah. How many episodes per season? 12. 12. Where do you find it? Fondue. Fondue. I watch it on Crunchyroll. Oh yes, Crunchyroll. I think Funimation has a dub, probably. But that's an easy like binge. Yeah. Yeah, like quick binge. That's one that will go by too quick. That's one that you will like. Okay. You'll watch it and be like, oh. Yeah, yeah. I think I'll hit that next. I'll hit that after re-creators. You will like it. I watched the first episode because Aaron suggested it to me and I was like, okay, that's cool. But then as I was watching the first episode, I thought to myself, oh, this is pretty interesting. I like it. And then the more I sat with myself, I went, this gives me anxiety. Yeah. I'm not, I'm just gonna look it up. You don't like, you had problems with Demon Slayer with how you felt after each episode. I don't imagine that you felt like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because that one's tough. That's a toughie. Because it's like the situation's not great. Yeah. It is, to me, basically, anxiety in the show. So I'm kind of just like. And the first episode is definitely like, because at the end it's like, oh, this is not the way it's gonna go. Yeah, I was like, oh, that's fucked up. Plot twist. Yeah. It's a lot, but then what else? Like, I really, I think one of my favorite animas is Mirai Nikki. Oh, interesting. I love Future Diary. Like, I was thinking, oh, I don't think Miles watched this one. I'm gonna say it. Say it. Please watch Future Diary. Yes, Future Diary. Is that the one with the yandere? Yes. The titular, the poster child. Pinker girl, she like has a knife? Yeah, she has like this black dress, a knife. I mean, you've definitely seen it. Pink hair with her. Ponytails. You've definitely seen it. There's stuff about the show that you're gonna love. OK. Like, yeah. It's, oh. Can you summarize it? It's been a minute, but it's just like, guy, phone, God. Nice. I'm just gonna be one of those things. Tight, tight, tight, tight. Phone, God, 12 phones. What is it, 12 or nine? Well, it's, yeah, 12 diaries. 12, yeah, diaries. Yeah, those are the diaries. OK. That's what I'm trying to, like, remember. It's like, I think that was very coherent. Yeah, definitely the same as the show's about. Isn't that, don't you want to watch it? So if you've heard the show, if you've seen it, you know exactly what's going on. Exactly, you know exactly what's going on. If you haven't, then you're like. I like this. I like Fiona explains. She just gives some key words. Key words. You put it together. Yeah, you put it together. I'm gonna tell you all about Konosuba through Rorschach inkblots. Yes. Oh, did you see? See what? The screenwriter for Pulp Fiction. Oh, my God. So you got the Konosuba movie. He would dare to say this is the reason that cinema was invented. Are you fucking kidding me? What? I love that. Oh, it's a parody. I love my assholes. I love my assholes. Konosuba, they're my assholes. OK, wait, no, but you haven't told me if that was real. Yeah. Supposedly. Yes, let me Google it right now. It is the guy who wrote Pulp Fiction, I believe. This is so good. Quentin Tarantino. No, no, someone else. Avery, something Avery. Yeah, it's real. Is this real life? He gave it a five star. And then when somebody goes, oh, my God, the guy who the screenwriter for Pulp Fiction gave the Konosuba movie five stars. And he responded to that fan. Like he retweeted it was like he was like it was one of the most enjoyable cinema experiences I've ever had. Dare I Say, the reason film was invented. Dare I Say, that's crazy. Yep, it's super legit. And it's no longer in theaters. Fuck. You'd have to watch all of Konosuba, though. So he's watched all of Konosuba. Hell yeah, dude. He's a bro. Damn, get it, Roger Avery. He's a weebie. Roger Avery, yeah. Yeah, he knows where the honey's at. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's fair. Cool. That was vindicating. Shit, that was. I was so excited. Cole has a lot of onions, too. I love Konosuba. I know you do. It's very good. I need to finish it. This is too much shit. Yes, watch. Yes, don't sleep. Yeah, don't sleep. Don't watch anything else. Oh, no. I just watch anime. I wish I could just I just become a whiny bitch if I get less than like six hours of sleep. You're not wrong. I get it. I just become so not fun to be around. Every time you stroke your wine, you eat a pizza. What I would give for your metabolism is going to slow down and then I'm fucked. One day it's just going to be like, oh. You say that. I had a friend in college who, like, he was like, if he was a meat, he'd be beef jerky. He was very lean and defined. And like, he would come home and eat sleeves of double stuffed Oreos, drink Mountain Dew. That's like, he was a monster. And I was always like, yeah, we'll fucking one day. Yeah, yeah, one day. He's just going to explode. That son of a bitch still looks like he did when he was fucking 19 years old. Meanwhile, I'm just like, oh, why? Bless me from the gods. He's like, me, he's not going to get any muscle, though. What kind of meat are you, Fiona? That is the most interesting question. But that's a good question. I was wondering how he gets to do this. I was like, I don't think we should have miles tell us what it means to eat, because that seems a little weird. Are you the chicken fat? I'm a little griffle. I'm a little, I'm a little emerald. We'll think on this. Yeah. In the comments below, what kind of meat do you think we are? And I am a lamb chop, who knows? Smash that like button if you like these meat-related conversations. I think I'm spam. Oh, I'd be spamming a heartbeat. I fucking love spam. Spam's dope. I love it. Fuck yeah, I just fucking love it. Is this a pro spam table? Yeah. Are we all pro spam? Pro spam. Yeah! Ta-da-da! Woo! That was the worst thing that happened. I fear the synergy at this table and what we're capable of. We're just too spam-me. Pro spam team is there. Attack, pro spam. Oh my god. Ooh. So spam and some anime? Mmm. Spam-ame. Spam-ame. Spam-ame. Thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. Yeah, we'll definitely have to get you on again soon. Yeah, please, bring me on. I don't speak, I can't talk about anime anywhere else, other than here. Really? Because you're legally blinded. Really? I can't, like, I go to a treatment hunter and I'm like, yo, this thing. And they're like... Jeff Ramsey's like, I hear you fucking say... You fucking... You fucking Gen-Z-er. Fuck it, I swear to god. Take you out! I don't care what Obama said. You take your manga and your anime and you can't go full gear out. Get your animus out of here. For the next time we have you on, is there a show you want that we have homework for? Mirai? You need to watch Future Diary. Like, I think that's the one thing. Out of all the ones I said that you haven't watched, that's the one. For my Spam-sister, I will watch that. Thank you. That could be our first... Spam-sisters! That could be our first, like, book club slash thing we do eventually. Like, we'll give it some time and we'll let the audience know. Oh yeah. To watch Future Diary. Do it. Do it. Do it. So, that's it. That's it. Okay guys, show over. Show over. Bye. Bye. I feel like the first week we did this show, we kind of had a side-off line and then we abandoned it. I don't remember what it was. It was whatever it was. And that's the new. No.