 Welcome back to the 21 convention 2018 of Orlando, Florida Our next speaker is a dear friend of mine dare I say but the best friend I have this guy saved my ass several times and in major ways He's been speaking at this convention since 2011. So for over seven years now He's a remarkable speaker who focuses on relationships and I would say one of the best aspects of His of his content. It's how serious he takes those from a masculine male perspective He also has a new book coming out. They just published today They'll be available very very soon including the launch party at his house this Saturday for you guys attendees only Penny speakers and everyone else Without further ado, please help me welcome the Socrates of the stage Wasn't quite ready for this I'm Socrates and I actually help people navigate today's sexual marketplace I do that because I believe that the sexes are actually meant for each other that were naturally complementary and Compatible with each other and that stands in stark contrast to today's society and culture. I Also fear that we've gone seriously awry that through the combination of culture society Gender politics and a sheer ignorance to the natural state of human affairs and Their ability to interact our natural state as human beings that we've gone seriously awry in all this My role is to help change that within society And I'm taking the notion that the sexes are actually meant for each other and doing something about it About 15 years ago I had many of the same fears anxieties and stressors that many of you face today regarding this environment I Had concerns about where our culture was going. I had concerns about our society how they viewed men how they viewed relationships How they viewed marriage? I had concerns about my own fitness and state as a man my ability to command Whether professionally personally my role in the environment I had concerns about my nature of Relationships my ability to lead manage maintain those relationships I had concerns about the Prospects of me becoming a father and what type of father I would be I Had all those concerns and I had personal issues that I was carrying an unfettered baggage that I've been carrying for 20 plus years and 15 years ago. I decided to do something about it and very directly. It has led to this moment right now. I Went out and sought the company of men like yourselves that were looking to improve upon themselves in their lives to understand life the world their involvement in Society culture with women with relationships Fitness health finance philosophy and I started leveraging the concept that when I was most successful in life I surrounded myself with people that were striving for excellence. They were striving for a similar purpose and I found that in a number of ways in my past life whether it was competitive swimming in high school Whether it was my involvement in architecture in an architecture college in the studios whether it was my involvement in the US military I was surrounded by excellence on a repeated Continuous basis that improved me and there was a concept about steel sharpening steel Okay, and I took that and I applied that to culturally in the kind of in a civilian world And how do you start now it did go down kind of this rabbit hole and I end up meeting a whole series of characters and fun Individuals at that. I still hold very tight relationships today One of which was a 17-year-old punk who after a meeting in a public library two blocks from here Decided to put on an event very similar like this matter of fact. It is this event If you can imagine going into an event where you're trying to learn about self-improvements learn about particular skill trip And you have a 17-year-old kid saying we're gonna blow this up. We're gonna run a hotel room We're gonna have people fly in they're gonna get hotel stays. We're gonna get restaurants What do we need to do? We're gonna put it on event on like this. I was in my mid 30s. I Knew enough of the individual to say yep have at it. Yeah, good luck. Good luck to you You know didn't stand in his way because I knew better But he actually went out and did something about it and in the course of that I've seen that individual grow and develop and mature to the to not only this environment that him as a man is an individual and it has been profoundly Something as an older man that I can look to a younger man as an example to lead so when Anthony Sissons says we have a Relationship we really do it's kind of a back-and-forth fondness for each other and respect out of people putting forth the effort and Responding trials and tribulations shared both successes failures missed opportunities and a lot of laughs and So ultimately I did do something about all this and where it led me is when I come home today I hear the feet of my little girl running to me exclaiming daddy daddy daddy daddy and I pick her up And I throw her in the air and after catching her. That's key. I Get the biggest bear hug that I've ever had in my life And in that moment I'm thriving in that moment I'm more alive than any time in my life that I faced death danger or when I've gone out thrill-junking In that moment. I am complete as a man as a father and as a human being That's not necessarily going to be for everybody. That is a choice. It was a choice. I wanted and a choice. I pursued I'm also rewarded by the loving gaze of my partner as she looks on in admiration love and fulfillment of not only as her is a mother, but as of my partner and while she may not tell me I Can see everything I need to know in her eyes and By the way, when I see that look in her eyes, I'm responding to her hypergamy That is a hypergamous trigger. I'm fulfilling You're gonna hear more about that through the coming next coming days You need to respond to hypergamy her hypergamous interest her natural biological sexual Being as an individual and there's a drive there. It's known we can measure it But you have to respond to that. You also have to be able to command your own So I ended up doing something about that We ended up Let me let me run a little bit longer The issue is I actually did something about that and decisions drive destiny You need to know where you're going if you're gonna be fulfilled and Make best use of your time and energy knowing your destination is paramount to getting to where you actually want to go Otherwise, you're gonna be aimless The problem is we don't live in that world You know of daddy coming home picking up your little girl Hugging her and having a loving a partner That's not the baseline of today's society and there's a problem now Currently it's projected that less than 25% of Millennials will ever marry That's staggering That is staggering. This is what that looks like That is a graphic of societal failure That is a graphic of cultural failure That is also a graphic of individual failure This isn't winning this isn't sustainable That doesn't work You don't have to change society. You don't have to change culture You just have to change your life So that you don't become a statistic like this and there's plenty of good reasons why this is occurring From a male perspective Very little respect is afforded to men who are commitment related Very little respect were mocked were disparaged were lectured to Under those parameters, why would you want to? What's the societal incentive that's being fed here? You're being deterred and it's an external element. We also know that in the same environment The risks are incredibly high The penalties are immensely stiff and the rewards Incredibly low How do we square that as a society? How do we fuel our evolution of society and propagate it going forward when we're faced with this? The last one It's never been a better time to be a bachelor Are you kidding? With social media feminism releasing sexual ambition out to the marketplace in the culture where it's free available promoted Where it being a slut is now celebrated by cultural leaders and thought intellectuals Men of means and ability are able to command that market They're able to do something about it. They're able to take advantage of that and good on them I don't think it's necessarily healthy. It's a lot of fun. Trust me. It really is But I don't think long term that is a sustainable element as well now for women We got a whole nother story Sky is no longer the win for women The sky is no longer the limit women Have the abilities to be anything and have anything they want Women are that who are self-motivated assertive and smart are Exceeding and succeeding in almost every elements in every areas of life except romance and everything that comes with it commitment relationships marriage motherhood It's not just that a condom is Cinderella's new glass slipper Women today very much are becoming refugees in love marriage and motherhood and tell me When have refugees ever been the victor or winning on anything and the answer is in today's social and cultural environment women are floundering and Losing as much if not more than men Another element that I find incredibly shocking is that loneliness is being marketed and sold as a virtue Think of that for a moment When has loneliness ever been a virtue? We know that loneliness develops profound in deep psychological wounds It's a form of trauma The American Medical Association regards child neglect as a first level of abuse Neglect as abuse. What do you think loneliness is? social isolation It's neglect Because of this we know that anxiety depression substance abuse and suicide rates are the highest among those that are most socially isolated We also know for example That the health markers for loneliness Are equivalent to smoking Except smoking comes with a warning Loneliness doesn't and we have a trademark for this don't mean go in their own way migtail How about the trademark strong and independent woman? How's that being advertised? positively or negatively and The results of this is loneliness the results of this are health indicators associated with carcinogens For women alone to give you an idea what happens if you make these decisions is that women who are going through fertility treatment and infertility have the same stressors anxieties depressions associated with women going through terminal illness cancer HIV and suffering the same ill effects as cardiovascular disease And this is for women who are infertile now nature doesn't care if she's infertile because it's biology or External elements such as social cultural or internal ones you take on yourself because you want to be a strong independent woman and put your career forward Whatever that may be In light of your ability to be a mother and command that Biologically and have an answer to it women are stressing themselves out and killing themselves putting themselves through terminal cases health risks Because they haven't thought forward on this And nature simply doesn't care if it's external Biological or internal the results are the same And if nobody's told you yet Nature can be incredibly cruel So when we talk about decisions driving destiny having a sense of awareness of these sort of facts and Then rationally taking steps to understand your involvement what you want your desires And planning a course of action rationally To limit this or to prevent this or in many cases Honestly embrace it. There's nothing wrong with saying and looking at this and saying that's truly the right. I want to go down But do it knowingly Don't do it and find you just happen to be there because that's where a lot of these issues with infertility come out Is that the decisions have already been made in advance and yourself in the reframifications of it and having to backtrack for lost time The lucky ones are able to do something about it Unlucky ones don't and because of it they become a Darwinian failure Where the risks are higher you need to be smarter there is no doubt Prepare accordingly. I like to go back to this. This is kind of the starting point This is a graphic that has a lot of sentimental net value to me But it's Adam and Eve in the Garden and Eden and this is when Eve gave Adam the apple and they were cast out upon Paradise from paradise This is the original red pill Think about it. This is the original red pill. This is the tree of knowledge There's a serpent in there. We'll talk about him later But you have man and woman in a natural state of being with all the other animals and is at this moment in time Man separated himself from all the beasts of the world We became human What did the tree of knowledge provide us? The difference between right and wrong moral and in more It allowed us to understand our natural order of things our natural prerogatives Awareness all these things come with wisdom. Okay, and that's what the red pill is its knowledge That you've got to be able to act on it. Now the interesting thing here is Adam had a choice Adam could have stayed ignorant and blissful in the Garden and Eden just like all the other animals Except he didn't He will only chose and swallowed the red pill I also want to look at several other things is that when we talk about the serpent in this issue I believe that's culture and society Because we don't just live alone between man and woman There's always society and culture involved and it's interlaced with our knowledge of the world Okay, and that serpent right now. Is it a beloved benevolent creature? Or is that a hostile one and the question is is we need to look at our society and culture and Critically examine and provide feedback to it. We shape that we shape the culture by how we act how we live What are expectations and everything else? Now going back to the red pill. I think this is a unique moment in time here This showcases awesome Adams willingness to defy God to be able to be accepted and Committed to by women. That's a stunning testament That you're willing to give up paradise To be closer to women. That's the nature of man. I also think it's the nature of women They have the same calm and they need to respond the same way if they want virtuous men in their lives Ultimately, I believe the red pills there not to pull us apart from women Is to pull us make us aware of our nature and bring us closer together not further apart So what does the red pill teach us and it's not necessarily specifically the red pill says this But what are the takeaway elements? You know and if you are always constantly worried about the concerns and the red pills primarily focuses upon a woman's Hypergopist nature her sexual impulses in nature and how that plays out in society her decision-making her relationships and the risks thereof What does it actually tell us? It's to be wary is to be fearful It's to be on guard and when you constantly are fed a litany of things to be afraid of it's naturally to be a fearful So what are some of these things? Well, quite honestly when mommy isn't happy she'll torch that shit All right, and the reality here is if you don't have appropriate behavior skills You'll resolve the issue inappropriately and That will be set in fire to your family at home Because you didn't get the call of attention. You didn't get the beg for for notice You didn't get the effect of an indicator of interest. You missed those lessons You didn't see that or you ignored it or you weren't able to handle and by the way You have an obligation to lead manage maintain and repair That's the burden of performance. She does as well. They're slightly different, but she does and this is a result Of not being heard and not having appropriate decision-making Okay being able to resolve things appropriately and by the way, who's whose problems that? remember you chose her You chose a woman that didn't have appropriate behavioral skills, and this is the result. Here's another one We live in a society that 50% of the marriages will end up in divorce. That's what that looks like Half that buildings on fire or let me rephrase that half that burning building is burnt That's a divorce half a good portion of that buildings on fire And that bottom portion, I guess that's kind of cool to live in I Don't know about you guys ladies, I Don't want to live there Sure as hell. I'm not gonna live there and that's your problem not mine If you want men to commit you want men to marry you you think you're entitled to that you have to resolve this You have to make sure that when you speak of marriage that doesn't come to my mind That I know everything you say and more importantly do is tell me this will not be the result And right now this is completely acceptable in today's social cultural and social environment matter of fact You actually have bomb throwers You have suicide bombers in here You have social justice wars. You have feminists torch in the place Prompting it. How would you like to live in an apartment complex for this building with arsonists filled with arsonists? This is why men are walking away We also know that doesn't end here doesn't because what mommy doesn't burn to the ground the courts and attorneys will actually destroy and demolish It's not over just once the fires put out Now that's just the initial tension the other thing and I kind of humorous here, too There always seems to be a social it has so much to a social gesture. It's worried but an apologist pissing on your wounds Just to keep the dust of the disaster down This is what men face. This is what men deal with and this is how we see relationships and you think we're fearful There's a reason there's good cause The others were also left with what remains Ruins not always just ruin sometimes they're clean. Some things are kind of pretty But in reality is we're left with the remains of what was What could have been and what should have been? And by the way we pass by this daily We all know somebody who's gone through a divorce at this stage We all know somebody who's lost custody of their children who's been alienated from their families from everything They try to create and they're living and will Breathing and moving amongst us We see this we fear this and it resonates with us at our core There are reasons why men are avoiding commitment and relationship and there's a natural response to this Fuck you I quit no Rational decision-making processes lead men to say no no commitment for you no dick for you anymore I'm gonna swear off women and by way. There's a lot of integrity in doing that is incredibly hard And that's a big time movement being going their own way men that are actually separating themselves from other women and people to protect themselves That's an ugly ugly testament to society The problem is doesn't really work For some who are really Discipline know what they want will actually achieve it, but they're going against their nature. They're going against our biological nature as mammals the more likely scenario for the hardcore red pill swallower is he'll learn these lessons He won't get committed, but it'll still engage with women particularly sexually because there's a tremendous Biological impulse to do so we're rewarded to do and so Hormonally societal everything else There's a tremendous desire to connect with women So what what usually ends up happening? You know, you would think that this would be a natural male contraceptive the problem is it isn't All right the problem is Most you guys are gonna have weak pullout game and For the red pill Rambo the most likely occurrence is he's gonna end up have an unwanted pregnancy With a woman of dubious value and I say of dubious value because they're not screening for women of value They're not looking for women who would be good mothers good wives good partners women who have social skills both in relationship skills Relationship management skills relationship maintenance abilities. They don't have a degree of socialization They don't have a network of family. They don't have a support group They don't come from institutions that promote and foster relationships. No, you're going after fucking hot Is she hot or not and that's all you care about and by the way women who don't develop themselves Virtuously are responding to base biological needs that tend to be non-virtuous And you're gonna pay for that Ultimately when that happens because biology will win you'll have an unwanted child and that's a tragedy and Feminism wins For an organization an ideological political movement that is there to destroy the patriarchy destroy the nuclear family and Provide tremendous disruption to the natural human order of things They don't care in effect By swallowing the red pill and going astray from your base biological needs and natural human human nature our social nature Feminism wins and they don't need to make you a feminist. They don't need to make you a female justice warrior They just need you to get sloppy and sloppy you will And you will just spoil your family tree for two generations yours and your child's If you think we have problems now give it another 10 years Ultimately as an architect we look at things probably a little bit different than most people Everybody gins to look at architecture as the mass, you know, for example, this would be a cube if there was no voids But the reality is that in many cases the voids will actually tell us more or much more information Than the actual mass itself. So for this example that cube is actually very intricate We know there are spaces involved and we know there's a Degree of order here in addition to it We can look at the same kind of principles as to not just what does red pill tell us like for example I gave through a litany of lists of just on the marriage side of About hyper we could actually do a series of slides that talked about women's natural sexual order Now those slides are probably a little bit more graphic women being putting that content up here But we could do that but the alternative though it becomes fairly interesting is we don't actually hear a lot about what the red pill Community and organizations overall don't talk about and that can tell us a Tremendous amount of information about those ideas about that philosophy and tell us more information Then if we just listen to the people speaking about them and the first one is it's gonna be fairly interesting Is we talk about hypergamy we talk about a woman's biological nature and we completely ignore the fact there's a term called Hypogamy a male's natural biological sexual interest We ignore the other half of the same form We're the same species same animal We have the same biological drives and where they're the same they're going to be very very close to being Absolutely parallel to each other, but where they're divergent they become rather interesting We don't talk about the male version All right, and the first rule of fight club is you don't talk about fight club. You don't talk about hypogamy There's the numbers of reasons for that a lot of times guys don't want that information out Others it's fairly well known and it doesn't need to be discussed and as long as you can ignore it You can actually enact hypogamy your sexual biological male interest as opposed to combating hypergamy hers And if you're worried about the battle of the sexes, that's a damn decent strategy Because remember one side is going to win yours are hers if You have that viewpoint. I don't I believe we're compatible and complementary and we're meant for each other Therefore we need to work together, but going back to fight club When you take fight club as kind of a genre approach to it one of the analysis is with red pill is this combative in nature and You're in fight club. You're not there to do poetry reading It's fight club. You're now a combatant Further alienating yourself from women further alienating yourself from relationships further Alienating yourself from your actual natural state of being a mammal of being a social being This can go on One of the things I'll tell you to and this this is an element to it as well You'll hear a little bit more later on is you're not Tyler Durden in this case We want to think we're talk we're Tyler Durden the reality is we're Ed Norton We want to be Tyler There's some value in that in recognizing that during this whole course of that particular story Tyler Durden was the hero the inner hero of Ed Norton. I think there's something to be said there That you don't have to be this outside honest character that you can find the your inner hero the inner you That's better than yourself. Okay, and lean towards that now in this particular case. It led to self-destruction But if you can harness that if you can guide that for positive benefits that are natural in order You're not gonna end up like Ed Norton or Tyler Durden The other is what stands in stark contrast to the red pill wisdom and not in every case And I want to sit on be bagging on just red pill, but the anti relationship stance of a lot of the red pill rhetoric is that in all cases not all women are like that and that there's True it's an acronym Because not all women are like that all women have a hypertrophic nature But they don't behave in the manner in which we talk about it. They don't have an answer or solution in many cases To why relationships do work why when we can stand and see relationships that are healthy vibrant and Successful we don't focus in on what are they doing to be successful? We focus on the car wreck and the problem is when you focus on car wrecks Or whatever you focus on it leaves in the residual image in your mind and you carry that forward So if you're constantly looking at the negative if you're looking at the derogatory If you're looking at the things that bring you down or pulling you away from the area and the way you want to be You're gonna end up there. It's a natural element My concern is how do we present this? How do we do that? The first is you got to need to reduce your risk and Where the risks are are high? You need to be smarter with it now. What are the things you can do? First off it helps if both of your parents are together We're mammals and as mammals we don't learn through rational ways. Okay, that's kind of a new one Okay, that's a human element, but as mammals We learn through imprinting and if you did not imprint as an infant as a toddler that there's a loving stable connected relationship and fostering in your home You will have no natural or limbic response and expecting one in your future If you don't have an example to go by Good luck. I'm reconstructing it yourself Second one is actually if you have affiliation institution affiliation the most common is gonna be religious institutions that promote relationships institutions that put committed relationships marriage families People that have that support Fair better far better than people who don't and if you don't have that You're gonna need to reconstitute that yourself And if anybody hasn't told you yet this right now what's taking place right now You are reconstituting an institution that did not exist in your own individual worlds How many people last night that I talked to that were excited about coming together and meeting people like-minded of like Interests and that energy that they found by coming together in one place that they weren't alone You're reconstituting what you didn't have that can save your marriage The other is if you graduated college now it's a stat I think it's a little bit iffy But I think there is some room for discussion here and the most primary one is the people who actually are educated They have gone through an institutional learning program They've actually learned behavioral and relationship skills management and they commit themselves to longer long-term tasks and completion of those tasks through hardship People who have respond to short-term impulses Don't tend to actually finish college or programs or what they set out to do and people that don't have that ability tend to end relationships And because they don't have the ability They'll do it inappropriately and they'll set the house on fire Another one is is if you earn $50,000 or more now I think that's kind of an arbitrarily number. I guarantee that number is gonna change But the reality is if you have a source of disposal income you have options people that don't have And when you have options, you can reduce tensions. You can reduce risk. You can reduce strain And that becomes terribly important not that that money is going to change the world Man, it sure does help and I can tell you as a parent being able to get daycare or Child support, you know to sit down and say I have a babysitter come in or I don't have to worry about a bottle of milk We can go get this and money is really not an issue It affords me opportunities to respond to things that really are an issue that you won't have time for When you're meeting your immediate needs and you have resources available that can overcome that your life's a hell of a lot easier Next one is if you actually marry it when you're over 25 This goes directly to maturity level life experience maturity level and your viewpoint of the world Last one for this one is that if you actually wait six months or longer after you're married to actually have children You're going to go through monsters changes when you have a committed relationship throwing children into a mix who are a little Tyrants, they're all about need in them That puts strains naturally on a relationship particularly when you're trying to figure out the last one now All these These are all demographic type issues very little this you're actually being able to control. I mean some of it But we're talking about demographics here. The needs are open statistical demographics We're not talking about the things that you can control day in day out That will actually vastly exceed these so if these numbers are looking good the next couple of slides will improve your life immensely One of the first things I'll tell us sit down and tell you to do is start practicing hygiene This is a non-medical non technological intervention that changed humanity Simply washing your hands and conducting simple basic hygiene improved human life efficiency 50% in less than 10 years simply washing your hands if You can increase your life except exits that's giving If you can increase your lifespan By following these some stuff. What can you do to relationships if you did the same? So what does that look like? What is relationship? Hygiene look like stop playing with shit First off. It's never gonna turn out the way you think Okay, really isn't The second one is an all-on. I say you're not prepared for it. I Doubt there's any clinical psychologists in the room. There may be one or two because of the speakers But the vast majority of people are ill prepared for cluster beam Personality disorders and somehow we're always attracted to You're not prepared for it Not only that cluster B personality types don't want to be fixed particularly by you They're not looking for help. Don't go get providing it. You want to piss them off? Tell them how you can help them All right, so not only you're not prepared. They don't want it The others I'm gonna ask this question. This is gonna be personal What the fuck's wrong with you guys? Why would you be attracted to this Why would you be attracted to cluster B personality types? Why are you so damaged? That this becomes something. Yeah, daddy wants crazy. Yeah, you over there. Yeah Crazy not the healthy woman not the woman without problems not the women who know how to navigate this world Not the women who know how to navigate and create and foster healthy relationships and social structure. Wow Daddy doesn't want that. I want that half-armed tatted girl piercings blue hair. You know the one that's gonna be sexually promiscuous. I Want to damage me. I want to deal with damaged goods Stop playing with shit It's a harsh thing to say leave damaged goods alone When you go to the shopping shopping mall when you look at things on the shelf and you sort through a number of products You're shopping for whatever it is And you look through the box. Are you buying the damaged box? No Why would you bite this into your life? You're choosing to do this If you have a choice between healthy and not Go with the extra mile and get the healthy package Last one I'm gonna steal this from Jordan Peterson It's a quote Fix your own shit first now. He may not have actually said it in that regard He may have said something a little more polite like that make your bed before you do anything else Make your own bed before you go out and make in the world Fix your shit before you expect hers to be fixed Start from within And you'd be surprised at how the type of people you'll start attracting Shit that won't play with itself Okay, and shit will stick to whatever it touches. If you stop doing that If you stop playing with shit You can vastly increase your life expectancy of your relationships Social media is another great one. I Don't think it's necessarily positive thing has the ability to be a positive true But it's not being utilized as a positive tool if you carry your phone Throughout the house. You probably got a problem If the first thing you do in the morning, do you check your social media status instead of your partner? You've got a problem if you spend more time Energy and focus and resource on Social media then do you on your partners on your social true social network your physical social network? The people around you your loved ones You've got a problem and that problem is called an addiction and like all addictions they importantly Social media work towards our ability to socialize we project We don't use this appropriately and in this regard social media very much is like alcohol or cigarettes It's the most current addiction we have and like alcohol and cigarettes both are highly addicting and when used to excess lead to detrimental effects They make your life worse not better the others for the ladies You want to improve your life and goes right up to playing with shit? Stop shaking the bad boy tree You have been enabled by society and feminism to be able to go out and shake the bad boy tree to pursue your sexual interests unfettered the problem is You are actually bringing this in your own life when you shake the bad boy tree when you go after that You make a conscious decision to do it because you're attracted to it. They're more fun. They're not going they're exciting That's your responsibility All right, do not expect good men and husbands to fall out of that tree Likewise guys stop shaking the fucking horse tree Good women are not going to naturally fall out mothers don't naturally well mothers will fall out of the tree not good ones There'll be single mothers All right, let's stop shaking that bad boy, all right, that's your responsibility now. Here's here becomes a problem This is what I call virtue diabetes What happens when you actually shake that bad boy tree and the horse tree and you get all this Non-virtuous people and events in your life you become resistance to virtue You don't know what virtue looks like and you can't interact with virtue very well. It's very much like being insulin resistant Okay, now I want you to think for a moment think of the woman you kind of want to get with All right, we kind of that vision What would your diet look like if you actually fed on that if that the women that we actually idealized and wanted in our lives? Based on this. Oh that diet look like What would your health markers what would become of you? And I kind of this vision is kind of a nasty one. I think each of you would look like fucking job of the hut Okay, and there you would sit You know like job of the hut fucking does more red pill more red pill bring me the rollo, right? You're gonna do that All right, and I'm not saying he's a bad guy in this case I'm really not and he's done some seminal work And if you haven't read his first volume the next two are stellar as well All right, but the bottom line is you don't want to get virtue diabetes One we making better decisions or something you want to take that red pill knowledge and use it appropriately to bring you more to more compatible appropriate relationships My problem with the anti red pill or the anti relationship red pill stance is that it promotes an impoverished view of the world and It promotes weakness particularly of spirit The wealthy have no problem investing it's why they're wealthy This is what you guys are doing by the way as well. You're investing in yourselves to make your world better The middle class doesn't do that They hoard We call it savings and you actually can save and make a meager life by protecting yourself, but in most cases most anti-relationship red pillors Are doing nothing more than playing to lose slowly How debilitating is that when you play to lose slowly you're not thriving you're not really living And you're squandering your life and you know in time You're gonna end up with nothing Because the casino always wins in that case the casino is mother nature Promotes weakness You know promotes weakness because when you are weak you need the soffits to tell you you can't do this That the challenges before you are absolutely insurmountable That all women are like that and they will destroy your marriage all women will put torch to their homes We live in a society that's half burnt out and collapsing and failing When you're weak you need those soffits When you're weak you're willing to fail When you're weak you look for opportunities to fail There's a vast difference between being weak and being underdeveloped If you don't know you're just underdeveloped particularly with knowledge, but you can change that If you're weak you can become strong Now going back to the Tyler Durden Ed Norton case We talked about Ed Norton having this inner hero called Tyler Durden I think there's something to that I think there's something to the fact that in each of us We want to be the hero in our own lives, and I think that's a positive thing But I think we need to take it a step further I think we need to look and find the true inner hero in ourselves with that We not not some Marvel comic book superhero, but the real you that does heroic things And in each of your minds, I think each of you know in your whatever predicament you're in you know exactly right now What that inner hero would do to change your life? And the further separated you are from your hero your real here on inside Is lost potential and if you do nothing more Than to lean towards that inner hero and start doing the things you know your inner hero would do to succeed To thrive to win Your life is going to dramatically change I'll also say this Nature's gonna win It is remorseless It is consistent. It's gonna outlast all of us It is also concrete. We know the elements of hypergamy and hypogamy are fairly well-known They're solid. They're established to concrete. We can analyze them. We can respond to them We also know that hypergamy and hypogamy are a call to action It's not a warning. It is a call to action. It demands action not just understanding and awareness You need to respond to that Lastly, I'll say one more thing in regard to this Hypergamy and hypogamy are inspiration. We should be inspired to these challenges as Men we should be rising up to meet women need to rise up to meet me We need to both demand that in our opposite and we need to command that ourselves That's the natural order Not one sex against the other but the place in the middle where they overlap when we're brought together This particular one bothers me the most is the anti-relationship stance that a lot of red pillars have is that? It takes our tremendous potential for being a parent and committed relationships And it teaches us to hold that value in content. Think about that. You're put massive potential of Being a partner and parental potential to be held in content. It's revolting It suffers not only from a lack of spirit It suffers from a lack of soul And that is a human tragedy any institution philosophy society culture that doesn't put family Marriage and relationships first is going to be fundamentally wrong Fundamentally wrong as to our human nature fundamentally wrong that is an anti thriving and fundamentally wrong that is self-extinguishing You want three solid arguments why an anti-relationship stance is wrong? There are three kind of those fear is born from conditioning and experience You're feeling that it's real because it's there All right, and and I'm not Casting the sparrow just towards that. That's real. I face that myself The difference is fear is natural But it is a reaction. It is a natural limbic reaction Courage on the other hand spoke stands in contrast to this courage is a choice Courage is what you summon when you're in fear when you're afraid and that is a conscious decision And that is our human element our cerebral cortex Overriding our limbic system for fight-and-flight and I'm a million system Okay, and by the way that brains larger and has to because it's the latest develop But you have to train that you have to condition yourself for that Seneca sat down and said we suffer more in imagination than we do in reality. I think a lot of red pill wisdom suffers from a lack of that I think in many ways we suffer more in fear of something than we actually do and that is not to cast disparage on the human Travelling to see that have occurred The trainwrecks that did occur the wreck marriage is a torn apart family is the damaged children all of it That's not how we have to live. It's not how we should be living you need to know what you're playing for and when you do That can be a tremendous springboard for self-improvement Five years ago. I very well could have been on big town My fears are that strong. I was older in nature I was missing my biological window and if you don't think males don't have a biological window you've got a lot of learn We do it's just nature's not nearly as harsh on men in that regard than they are women It's an unfairness of nature, but that's how it is but at that point in time at a choice and I wasn't gonna be happy or willing to go in my grave not knowing second-guessing myself And I had the opportunity to pursue a number of different avenues and prepare myself accordingly as I stayed in my introduction and today I have my daughter to thank for and I it just it's a wonder for me that I even came that close But you need to know what you're playing for Need to know what your mission and purpose is that needs to be communicated with your partner You have to be agreement on it because if you're going that way you got a world of problem And the future belongs to those who show up prepared a father's investment is going to grow beyond himself It will actually survive him the childless Become less and less significant and have less investment into the future with each passing year and depreciates Yearly to the point of zero and that is a harsh statement with the nature and nature will not care For men who choose to lounge by the pool today social and culture environment Take advantage of the free ride of hypergamy. They're advocating the future By the way, that's our obligation and right And compared to other men's in past we are born kings The day and age in which we live is an immensely glorious Not saying there aren't challenges and they're significant But we should be worthy of today's age. I've stated decisions shaped us and they do I Think fundamentally each and every one of you know precisely the road you're on you know the path You're not you're about to entail You also know where that road ends up my advice to you choose that number Thank you. I thank you very much Socrates you guys have some questions. We got about seven minutes You can come up to the mics ask a question Quick question. Is this the herpes glass? No, there was a couple a couple years back They've left a glass up here and every speaker would drink about during conference If that wasn't dirty enough the first day day and a half it was nothing but pickup artists, so If I didn't pour it I'm gonna ask Grace be socrates Yeah, I've been lurking on the red pill for over a year now and I lean more towards LTR I'm in a 16 month relationship right now Okay, and I know this sounds like heresy, but I love this girl, but she adores me and We're on the same page. She's in my frame so I'm also a practicing Catholic and I want to be a father one day and it would go against my conscience to Become a father without being married to this girl. We still haven't had sex yet We're waiting, so why should I not get married? like from your perspective I Just gonna be a tough one only from the same time. I'm in the same boat. I Think there are tremendous risks associated with marriage. I don't think society supports marriage I think these civil and legal elements associated with marriage are so adverse to men. You would be crazy to do it and But you know, you know, for example, if we were to take it out of family law and apply it to case law I would never go into business and become a principal partner of any Organization that had by lines that would be structured the same way. It's viewed in family law Your rights as a father as a male. I mean for example when we talk about marriage What are you? What are you? What are men's marriage right? Can we even bring that up? You know, let me step on that bomb real quick. Can we discuss what our male rights associated with marriage? Do you have marital rights? And by the way when when you bring courts and police involved because when you can't you know deal with these appropriately How do the courts view your marriage rights? You have any? And if you if you think you do what are they and when's the last time you saw them in effect? Now I can guarantee women have more marital rights than men do because you can see it in fact because they leverage law enforcement in the courts to assure those rights So until men are actually treated equally appropriately. I Would have severe reservations against the legal element of marriage now the natural order of marriage I absolutely fully agree that does not diminish your willingness to commit to be a loving partner to commit to her You know in all your beliefs to commit to your child That sort of marriage I absolutely absolutely completely believe you know and support and I'm doing myself You know, so I'm not saying anything or I'm not advocating for anything. I'm not doing personally But to physically say I'm legally going to get married. I'm avoiding it myself as well just for those reasons Socrates that was great. I really appreciated your may waltz comments because that is a little bit counter to the some of the red pill wisdom that's out there and You know the red pill community has done a lot for me personally, but Honestly, the a-walt thing is part of this pill that I'm having a little bit of hard time swallowing and choking that part down So I was wondering if you could maybe expand on that. Yeah, absolutely. If you're like me You're probably prepared to be judged a little bit as being purple pill for now. I've been called worse I've been called captain save a hoe. I've been all sorts of good stuff In not all this is an element that not all women are like that and red pill will sit down and tell you all women are like that But they're talking about a woman's hypergib us in nature her natural biological sexual impulses Those don't change and in that regard all women are like that all women have a natural biological sexual impulse Likewise all men have a natural biological sexual impulse and that's called hypogamy So now in that regard we're all like that Where I hear that taken astray where it kind of goes out is they then apply that across the board for any number of issues that All women will destroy marriages. All women will do the following now. The reality is is if you leave hypergamy unchecked It will wreck your house and home Very much like for example and having been a cheater all my life I've only been in one in relationships in which I didn't cheat on a partner When you leave my hypogamous interest Unchecked when you haven't been able to command my attention sexually when you haven't been able to respond to my biological natural sexual impulses And you haven't been the answer to that I'll wreck that shit too When I don't have appropriate a response because when you're ill prepared and I was And I've done some egregious goddamn things things that I'm not proud of Things that I deeply regret and owe decent people an immense apology Part of which is why I'm here It's not you know, it's it's a kind of a moral shift is that Where you were once moral the way to write the world is to become moral And not just does not do it again, but to teach others and say hey, I know I hurt you. I damaged you I behaved abominably And while in many cases some of that may have been justified in part It did not justify my actions All right, and what did I do about it? I put my house my home my family at risk by being here by being filmed here My career is very much in jeopardy every time I do one of these videos every time it's seen Uh, and that's a risk I kind of take personally because I think I owe these people a debt of gratitude And an apology And while I may not have said it to them I have done something about it And so when we talk about going back to not all women are like that It's specifically dear towards the natural biological impulses how that plays out or individual choices But you have to watch for that you have to be aware that never goes away And you have to continuously respond to that just because you're married Marriage is no safe shelter from high programming or high programming And if you get that you'll move a hell of a lot better towards a more healthy response to a red pill wall Socrates, uh, thank you for your um over here Thank you for your uh, I got bright lights in my face. Sorry. No worries. No worries. Um, it's very timely and uh Certainly provided value to me. So thank you for that My question a little bit of a two-parter Um, what council do you have for men who seek who are thinking about Seeking to create a life and a legacy that may not involve family and children instead their impact on their community on their society And what would you also suggest for men who are seeking those institutions that you talked about that support them who may not be You may not find that in religious institutions or other community There's a multitude of life paths you can take child Uh, you know parental natures being a parent having children That's kind of a common biological way in which you can transcend life. It's kind of a natural order thing, but it's not the only one Uh, I know, you know, for example jack donovan stood not necessarily in this stage Convention last year and talked about literally there's a multitude of ways in which mankind can spread its seeds throughout the universe And that can be intellectual. So, you know, my namesake, you know, sarcaste Um, I have no idea if he's ever had children Sure as hell impacted my life Okay, most people here are at least aware of him And so he impacted the world through, you know ideology through philosophy those sort of things that transcended, you know You know millennia. I think that's terribly powerful As an architect, I used to believe that, you know, my god, you know, I give shape to and rise to society And that's that's generally true Uh, but the problem is I I know that that's not the only answer Uh, I thought it was kind of amazing when I was coming off of the stage And I realized that I actually had a bigger impact even though I do civil municipal work I had a bigger impact on society not doing architecture But by actually responding and teaching people who would actually fill that architecture By making the world a better place by making people better By bringing us together and not pulling us apart So I think there's a multitude of ways in which we can kind of achieve similar results, you know Of you know immortality, you know, we're all do a grave The question is is there should be no doubt and no resistance of you sliding into that grave having lived a half life And so if you're looking to reconstitute an institution, you know, that that's like a religious background or a family background You know, for example, a very large family is an institution that will support marriage If you don't have those what you have here today organizations like this Very much can fill that voiding gap and actually does I would I would actually say this convention very much is filling A very significant role of the damage sought on by divorce That most people here have come from broken marriage or a under fathered Relationship structure. I know in my case that was also kind of true too, even my parents are still married Is that in many ways my father wasn't there for a number of reasons and I was slightly under father I didn't get that particular lesson in life And there's eric erickson talked about developmental stages Of children and adults through life that there's certain trajectories and arcs that you learn certain things to be a functional adult And where there's a void you need to go back and fill that void Otherwise you carry that void forward To your detriment and so if you're able to identify that find those cultures seek out and and here's the other one, you know It may not exist This didn't exist until anthony johnson at 17 decided to create it I can tell you right now. He talks about how I saved him. No, he saved his own damn ass He created a circle of men in which he could fall back on and support network. I happened to be one One of several Okay, so that supported him at the lowest point in his life. He made a video on You know, and so if you don't have that you can find it or you can self create it and it doesn't take a whole lot A mastermind group is three people I know being in a mastermind group myself that helped transform me into a life that I currently believe Socrates I'm the proud father of two adult daughters of 29 and 31 years old The problem is they're both ardent feminists and strong social justice warriors How do I navigate that relationship through a red pill lens with and keep integrity? It's very difficult It we spoke a little bit last night. We're going to speak more this weekend. I'm not going to let you go That that it's disturbing. You know people like you exist That you did what you could as a knowing father You tried to be is the best father you could And yet your your children turned out in a manner in which Is displeasing counterproductive their own their own health their own life The way to do it through a reddence pills lens is no different than if you're going to be in a relationship These are grown adult women And you need to have boundaries And being able to honestly express those boundaries doesn't mean you have to be domineering and dominant But you have to be able to sit down and be a role figure The other is you actually have a biological tie and I would actually recommend actually leveraging that to to the full extent It's possible. You're their father I have no doubt and you expressed it that your daughters love you Play off that You're going to have to do 10 15 years of cultural indoctrination to get them back And they may never be where you really want them to be But the fact is that they disparage men They ridicule marriage And they hold the idea of masculinity and contempt And yet they love their father I'd ask them that question How do they score that and and then listen Because listening in a lot of cases pulls out It cleanses the wounds of trauma that would have been entailed where there was institutionalized or were physical or social However, however, whatever happened to them to create the social justice war where they have this need This compulsion for this now. I think in many cases social justice wars It's a natural response that that it's a positive thing that they're trying to make the world a better place It's terribly misguided. You know, I used to have friends that were socialists I say used to they kind of the last couple of years It's not not not been really good for friendships But I was a lot more tolerant than I was And I I would take on these relationships and knowing that we had disparaging views In many cases though, I've been able to exercise that because I was no longer beneficial is kind of productive that these are your children And you're going to be their father for life And and they are going to be your children for lunch And so that's not going to be a relationship. You can kind of cast aside I would I would turn into it And have an honest adult conversation and tell them This hurts me This hurts my relationship with you and I love you. I want to have a close relationship with my daughter And I feel that this is pushing us apart Let let them answer you as an adult All right, gentlemen, we have time for one more question Have you noticed the difference between women who are raised in say only children and women who are raised in large families? Especially women who have lots of brothers because I've certainly noticed a difference there Also, just one comment. I noticed that hypergamy is on dictionary.com, but hypogymy is not That's true. Yeah, depends on where you look There's a tremendous amount of research on hypogymy in eastern asia primarily india And they take the view that hypogymy is a male interest to marry up And that's kind of the parallel definition of hypergamy in shorthand marrying up and it deals with a caste system Being we're meaning of a lower caste or marrying up into a higher caste and it's terribly frowned upon in some cultures And so you'll see hypogymy written about extensively in there If you want to see hypogymy written about in a sexual psychological issue You'll have to look at anthropological research papers and primarily white papers You won't see it published out in the academic area in books and magazines because they won't publish it because they're being published by very liberal institutions and Scholars live and die by what they publish and you better publish what's accepted So if you want to see the information being conveyed they have to publish And one of the ways to convey without publishing a book is a white paper And that's typically a short dissertation on a subject matter That's probably five or six pages long and they could be longer It's almost like a study and they'll go into a whole series of natures of a particular element that they're researching In that you can find a tremendous amount of cited sources of hypogymy of other inches So you'll find it there But I'll also sit down and say red pill folks particularly in the reddit forums Have no interest in discussing or talking about it and they'll reuse it while it doesn't show up in wikipedia I don't give a shit Okay to sit down and believe that women have a biological nature, but men don't That's kind of weak sauce, you know, we can have that argument there and we've had speakers who believe that We've also had speakers up here who completely believe that hypogymy and hypogymy don't exist whatsoever So keep in mind a lot of the speakers will have very very parallel very similar discussions very similar beliefs But sometimes we're divergent. I think that's okay. I think there's room for discussion there Ultimately, you're going to have to make up your own mind and part of that is I don't want to you know, read off to you a chapter in verse. This is boredom intrigue my personality Matrix is not like that. I'm driven. I just I want the solutions They either make sense of me or it doesn't and I'll continue on I don't care if you're a phd or not If somebody says something, you know, for example, I could read a fortune cookie and it makes sense to me I you know, there's some sense here. I don't need to go looking on the back for the citation Now going back to your first question Have I seen a difference between somebody from a large family and small differently? Yeah, absolutely I think very much personalities are developed by the relationship structures that we imprint on Because we're mammals and an only child will have a vastly different imprinting process and experience Than somebody from a family of 10 My partner is number nine of 10 And I can guarantee you her social personality makeup is very much different than any of the women who I dated previously Who were only children In that regard an only child tends to be very self-absorbed World-centric tends to be a lot more narcissistic Somebody from a large family depend on the range where they were at within that The bottom range is that they did not necessarily have a lot of room and they don't take up a lot of emotional space She tends to be an introvert and doesn't communicate. She'll communicate things through behavioral values I need to be aware of her communication patterns So where a only child may be very vocal about her emotional needs My partner coming from a family of 10 and the the youngest daughter tends to be very non-verbal Non-verbal so I have to watch the behavioral language And so there's kind of a running joke is when she tells me fine I have to ask are you fine or are you fine And then watch the behavioral patterns and when she says fine, I don't sit there and do this Okay, you're fine I actually sit and go fine and I take out a thermometer and I check her thermometer. What's her temperature? What's her personality? What's going on? What's the context? Okay, so I'm looking for all the micro expressions that are going to tell me the truth Okay, because behavioral patterns people can conceal Verbally what they believe but they're micro expressions Okay, and we had a speaker here talk about body language People are not used to concealing your body language So I'll actually monitor that but you can bet your answer is going to be a difference And you should know about it and you should plan accordingly So and I actually do and I'm part of my management and maintenance Protocols that I do within my my relationship. That's kind of a pattern which I I'll take and that's part of what I'm obligated to do Is to lead that relationship and part of that is to read Her to understand communication to make sure that communication dialogues taking place because if I just sit down and say she's fine I'm advocating and over time if she doesn't have the ability to communicate appropriately overtly She'll she'll set the house on fire All right, it's not that she's a bad person But she'll get frustrated tensions will build up anxiety will build up resentment will build up alienation builds up isolation will occur All the things that are deteriorate for healthy relationships So your job is to actually as being involved in a relationship Be aware of it develop those skills and manage that That's all the time we have gentlemen. Give it up for Socrates