 Anybody remember Sears, Circuit City, Hollywood Video, Blockbuster, those are all stores that have closed. They shut down, they are no more. But right before they get ready to close, they usually have a sign that says, everything must go. And what this means is that customers can take advantage of getting things that they would normally pay a higher price for, before a little bit cheaper. And these things may still be high quality, but because the entire company, the store is about to shut down, you can take advantage. Now the Panthers, they find themselves seeming to be ready to shut down. They just fired their head coach. They got a terrible record. Things are not looking really good. And usually when things line up like that, everything must go. So to talk about some of those things that could possibly go and some of the things that the Ravens could possibly take advantage of, we brought on a very special guest. All right, so Team Keep It Clean, very, very special guest in the building. My guy Nick from the Nitty Gritty Sports Talk, first and foremost, before we get into this, let everybody know who you are, where they can find you at and exactly what it is that you do. Yeah, for sure. I appreciate you having me on and Graven. This is Nick from Nitty Gritty Sports Talk, comprised of four co-hosts, all from Baltimore, basically giving it to you raw, you know, as far as Baltimore Sports Talk, national sports news. We have three resident Ravens co-hosts and then a Steelers fan. So it brings an interesting dynamic. You know, obviously we're familiar with each other in the AMC North, but we all live in Baltimore, so we all kind of know what's going on with each other's teams. We cover football, baseball, basketball. We've had Ravens on the show, form NBA players, D1 college basketball players, coaches. You know, you name it, mostly all from the area. So we try to definitely give that spotlight back to Baltimore athletes because sometimes those stories are forgotten. So you know, we definitely try to revive those stories for lack of a better term. And yeah, you can find us on Twitter and Instagram, Instagram at Nitty Gritty Sports Talk and Twitter at Nitty Gritty 410. And the link you'll find, link to all our podcasts, you can view the catalog and so on and so forth. All right, I appreciate that. And I will have all that stuff linked down below in the description just to make it easy for people to search for it. Now one thing that I noticed about you, especially on Twitter that I really appreciate, because there's not too many people that are like this, because a lot of people can be kind of be afraid to sort of go against the grain or whatnot, but I always appreciate how honest you are and how straightforward you are in your takes, especially when it comes to the Baltimore Ravens. Because a lot of people just like to go with the flow and, hey, to each his own. And that's fine. But I appreciate the straightforwardness that you bring with that. So thank you for that. Keep doing your thing. Keep shining, man. Yeah, for sure. And don't get it twisted. We love our Ravens. Yeah. No, yeah, yeah. For sure. And that's, for me, in my opinion, honesty is the best way to be really about anything. If you got your friends, if you got a friend that's that you love, you love them dearly. But you see, hey, you messing up, man. You got to let them know. You got to let them know. And don't be afraid to tell them because if you just continue to let them mess up, then are you really a true friend? So for sure. Anyway, the Ravens, you talked about how y'all have a lot of people from Baltimore on a podcast. You've had a lot of athletes from Baltimore on the podcast. But there's one athlete who is from Maryland. And he's on a team right now that's been going through it, the Carolina Panthers. They brought over Baker Mayfield, they can work. They brought over Sam Donna, they can work. They brought over Matt Rule. It ain't been working. So they got them up out of there. So now it's looking like, hey, people might come available because we've seen it happen time and time again with teams, if they fired a head coach, especially this early in the season, it's weak fire. They fired Matt Rule and they fired, they fired the defensive coordinator. They fired, I think, specialty. They fired a couple of coaches. A lot of times in these situations, other teams can benefit because when a team fires a head coach, especially a team that's been struggling for a long time like the Panthers, other teams can start to pry the players away and whatnot. So the Baltimore Ravens right now, they're sitting at three and two. You know their strengths. You know their weaknesses. Is there anybody from the Carolina Panthers who you would like to see the Ravens trade for? Of course, you know, there's some popular names out there, but who would you prefer? So if I had my wish, you know, if I could dream and get whatever I wanted, obviously it'd be DJ Moore. He's already done the Maryland Jersey, so he's familiar with the area. You know, it'd be like the hometown kid coming home. So that would be dope. But then you also have to recognize the fact that he just resigned for three years, 62 million dollars. You know, so to get him or to acquire him, we would be asking Eric DeCosta and the organization to not only fork up that money, but also fork up draft picks. Because Carolina is just not going to give him away. The whole point for them to trade any of these players is to accumulate assets, accumulate draft picks as they start their rebuild. So that would be a tough ask. I think the more realistic option was Robbie Anderson. He has a cheap contract. His draft capital probably, you know, as far as what we have to give up will be cheap. And then, you know, I believe he's a rental as well. So that would lower his price a little bit on that accord. I think Robbie Anderson would be a perfect fit because I love what I'm seeing out of Devin Duvenay. He's honestly surprised me. The way he's being used, the way Greg Roman has decided to use him, I'm honestly impressed. So you add that with Bateman, right? So he's your traditional Y receiving one in that X-Roll. And then you have the speed that Robbie Anderson can provide, whether you put him in the slide or whether you spell the Marcus Robinson. Like, it's so many options. I don't think we just want the two pieces away on offense from being the consistent top level elite offense that we want to be. And I love how you put that with the phrase that you use, so many options. And that would be a beautiful thing to have, especially got Lamar Jackson. Right now, the primary options have just been Mark Andrews, of course, as we know, he wanted the best tight ends in the game. And Bateman, of course, before he got hurt in Devin Duvenay. Now, as far as the options currently in Baltimore, Duve been doing this thing. I call him now. Duve do it all, Vinay. And like you mentioned, he was a big surprise to me. I'm just a pleasant surprise, though. I'm really, very happy to see exactly what he's doing. Like you mentioned how Greg Roman is being used in them. But the other options, they've been a little quiet. They've been like really quiet. And as far as both tight ends and wide receivers, how you feel right now about Approche, the Tylen Wallace, Isaiah likely, Oliver, even maybe Nick Boyle, too. Because we haven't even really seen him on the field at all. Yeah, so as far as those names are concerned, it's still wait and see. There are a lot of youth and inexperience in that group of names that you mentioned. As far as Pro-Shea and Tylen Wallace, I think Tylen Wallace had an opportunity to make a play. It was just a bad throw by Lamar. So it was good to see him get that type of separation deep. So wait and see on that. As far as the tight ends, Isaiah likely. I mean, we're asking a lot out of somebody from coastal Carolina who, coming into the draft, we knew there were some blocking concerns. And to make it on the field as a Baltimore Raven as a tight end, you got to be able to do both because our run game is our priority. Right? So when he comes in the game, defense is kind of already know, OK, he's on the field, it's probably going to be a pass play. So once he gets offseason in the weight room, that's when I think he'll be the guy that we think he'll be. And as far as Nick Boyle, he went through a gruesome knee injury. And the thing that kind of saved JK Dobbins in that regards, he was one of the most athletic players that we've seen in the last five years. Nick Boyle, not so much, right? So I do think EDC should make a move to bolster the offense for depth purposes, mostly, you know, if Bateman goes down, you do have DuVernay, but behind DuVernay, it's kind of sketchy. And we don't want to get into a position where we have to react. I'd rather be prepared for any situation. I love it. Stay ready so you ain't got to get ready. You know, one aspect of this Ravens team where they were ready, but injuries kind of change everything. And then they went into the season kind of ill prepared was at the pass rush position because it was just Justin Houston and Adafi away. They had called up Steven Means for a game and literally on the first play that Steven Means got in, he got hurt. The season was done. Of course, we know the story with a job. Oh, he's not ready yet. And with Tyus Bowser, he wasn't ready to start the season. I really thought that week five, I thought he was going to be back after week four and he was going to play week five for sure. But we haven't heard anything about him yet. So we'll see when the Ravens practice tomorrow, if he's back or not. And then go from there. But the pass rush position, Brian Burns from the Carolina Panthers. Do you think it will be worth it? Especially the Ravens got they got Adafi away. They got JPP and he had a real good game the other day. But do you think of Brian Burns of making a move for him could be worth it for the Baltimore Ravens? He's a special. He's a special talent. And, you know, as you mentioned earlier, Carolina looks to be in a fire sale. So if you can get him at value or at a cost in which you're OK with, you know, I will pull the trigger 10 times out of 10. One thing I will give Edc credit for is he seems to be able to find value at the linebacker position. I'm not going to say pass rush, but at the linebacker position. So if we had a choice between wide receiver and going to get a Burns, I might lean towards wide receiver just because that's more of an immediate need. I think our defense, honestly, our defense has been playing a lot better over these last two weeks. I think starting to get a lot more comfortable in the new scheme and what McDonald wants to do. And also, I think I can be a tad bit encouraged by the pass rush. JPP was making a lot of plays. We actually we haven't seen him with the entire pass rush crew. I'd like to see him and how he looks with Houston and how they play off each other as well as away and then Bowser, who's a versatile one of our most versatile defenders on the team. When he gets back and then maybe if you sprinkle in O'Jabbo towards the stretch run, who knows, the possibilities are ending. But defensively, I am liking how it's trending. We're trending up in that regard. Yeah, yeah, you ain't lying about that because the the first week against the Jets, it was like, OK, all right, we got something here. Then for a while against the Dolphins, it was looking like, all right, it's continuing. And then, of course, we know how that fourth quarter went. Got really ugly. And then even against Mac Jones in week three, I think he threw for over 300 yards in the first half. He was looking ugly, but he was he was picking on he was picking on the rookies and he was picking on Brandon Stevens. And that was smart of the Patriots to take advantage of the young corners because more than Humphrey Marcus Peters have been doing their thing. But then against the Beals and against, of course, Joe Burrow and the Bengals, Ravens defense, they've been holding their own. So it seems like they really are turning a corner with that pass defense. And if they could bolster that pass rush, if the pass rush could continue to make improvements and they can make strides, then I really do think this defense could take a huge step forward. But the last thing you mentioned is that if it came down to having a pick between a wide receiver and a pass rusher, you would take a wide receiver. And I agree. I do agree with that, especially this current state of the Ravens because I feel like that would just do so much for them. One thing that does get lost in the win against the Bengals, something that is still a big factor is the second half scoring offense. The Ravens and I didn't even realize this, but the Ravens, they didn't get a touchdown. In the second half of the game, it was just field goals. And we love that they took their points because they played a lot smarter than the previous week, but the scoring offense has still been an issue. And that would be one of my biggest reasons for one of them to get a receiver, especially if they had the choice. I would love, like, I would love a DJ more, love it, love it, love it. Don't think it's going to happen, but I would love it. Well, Robbie Anderson, I do think is a little bit more realistic, especially like you mentioned, when you talked about the contract. And if you could pick, and I know that's kind of a crazy question, but if you could pick any wide receiver for the Ravens to trade for or any pass Russian for the Ravens to trade for before the trade deadline to really help get this team over the top. I know. Yeah, I know. That's just for any. It doesn't have to be realistic. Any, any. Listen, if it's if we're not talking being realistic, give me Debo. Somebody who somebody who could get yards after the catch consistently for Lamar. So somebody that can turn 10 yards into 80, you know, that's sometimes that's all the offense needs. And that's and that's kind of why I was going towards that wide receiver overpass Russia kind of point of view. Because sometimes you just need skill talent to help your quarterback. It doesn't always have to be Lamar making the 60 70 yard throws. Sometimes like versus the I think it was the Patriots game, not sorry, excuse me, wasn't the Patriots game. It was the jest game where Rashad Bateman caught that slant and took it to the house. Sometimes it's things like that where, you know, just one play can turn around a game. One play can make a court of an important difference for your quarterback. How his day is going between the catch and an incompletion or catch in the interception sometimes. So that's a tough question to ask, because if I could have my pick of the litter, boy, I'd have a whole fantasy team in Baltimore. I think we all would, man. But yeah, just it's about making your quarterback's job that much easy. And that's what really good wide receivers do. They help them out. But even agreement, I don't mean to cut you off. You mentioned earlier kind of going back to Carolina and not scoring in the second half. One thing that I did want to mention is I was watching the Carolina, San Francisco game and they were talking about Kyle Shanahan, right? And one of the things that they were mentioning is Kyle Shanahan goes into a game with the script. So he scripts or 21 plays something like that. Yeah. And then I have Tom rips up that script. And it's an entire new script based on the field of the game. And that's something that I would love to see Greg Roman do more often not saying that he doesn't do it. It's just the optics. It seems like we come with the script and we stick with the script as opposed to adjusting and adapting. If we could do that, like we're tweaks away from being the Super Bowl team that we want to be, we have the talent, we have the coaching, we have the minds, we just have to approach, approach the game plans and and, you know, just the field of the game, even going back to Harbaugh's decision making, just feel the game over analytics and all of that. Yeah, I agree with that whole hardly feel it again. Over analytics, because it's not a computer out there on the football field. It's the players, man. And in the heat of the moment, you just got to go with your gut. Don't go with the numbers. Go with your gut and try to win. But anyway, I appreciate you coming on. I appreciate you sharing some of your time with us. And one more time before we get out of here, let everybody know what they can find you. Again, you can find us on Instagram and nitty gritty sports talk, Twitter, nitty gritty 410. Check us out. Our link is on the bio. Always appreciate engraving vids. He's a goat. 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