 What's up everybody? Welcome to Hot Makes right here on Hot Makes across the board. We're live on the Facebooks, the YouTubes, and I hope everything is going good out there and everybody's doing good. Just in time. We started on time today pretty much. Pretty much. We'll say pretty much. A couple quick things. If you want to see any of the Hot Makes we show in the show, don't forget. There's a link in the description below. Click that Google Doc. Find episode 126. Whoa, that's a lot of episodes. 126 people. Come on. And then you'll find all the cool stuff one minute late. I'm sorry. It's my fault. I was talking. Imagine that. I was talking too much. Well, yeah, we have an awesome show today. The guest today is, man, it's going to be so crazy to see some of the stuff and hear from him. Some of the cool stuff that he gets to do. Walter Welsh, also known as Walter Miss Prime from Welsh Creations. I'm super pumped to talk to him. We were supposed to have him a few weeks ago, if you remember. It got rescheduled and it tonight is that night. Hold on tight because if you like making in general, you're going to love this guy. Stick with us just for a minute and I'll get him in. Don't forget there is a PayPal link if anyone wants to toss us a buck or two towards the Oreo fund or whatever fund you want to call it today. There's a PayPal link in the description. What else? Also, we went over 800 subs. I know earlier in the week or towards the end of last week, I think, Geary threw out a tag that said, hey, let's get us over 800 and we did it within very quick, like an hour or something, right? It was very fast. Is that right, Geary? Are you with us? What's your question? I was saying- I haven't opened it yet. I was eating my nuts. Chris Perillos with us. All right. Alvin's Fox. I said we hit that 800 pretty dang fast when you posted that for us. That's awesome. Thank you guys so much for doing that. We are super close to a thousand and we can start doing all the fun super chats and all of that stuff. Seriously though, yeah. We really appreciate it. Yeah. I'm just fixing- there we go. I'm just fixing my nightbot because anybody actually on the Edge of Tech channel is seeing random stuff pop up. I just remembered I had to turn it off. I did three live streams last week, so it was a little bit crazy, but yeah. I'm super pumped. A couple quick things. I want to bring this up right away before I forget today and we'll try to remember to bring it up again. Let me just share my screen quickly. Boom. Abby. There we go. That is not what was happening. What is happening there? Did you use the wrong screen apparently? I'm excited. There we go. There we go. There we go. So Abby shot us over a quick message to let us know that tonight she'll be on the Little Mosul Show at 5 p.m. Pacific right after hot makes. So jump in there. Have some fun. We're going to get that final push hopefully to 100 posts for the Yellow Ribbon 3D Print Project, and we've been talking about that for the last couple of weeks. So right after tonight's show, jump over there if you want to on Twitch. See Abby say hi, and let's see if we can get her above. I don't know if you guys saw, but I don't know if Abby saw too. I have to go back and look, but if you look on the Hot Makes channel on Facebook, I believe last week we had David Hewlett on, and I believe on the Hot Makes channel, he posted his make. Geary, you can attest to that, right? Are you asking me to go grab it? I'm finding the post. I'm pretty sure it's right on the front page, right? Found it. Nailed it. Okay. Let me drag it over. I'm just going to drag it over. There we go. Tech Banditry. I love that. Met the fabulous Abby Nath on Hot Makes podcasts. Thank you. And loved her. That was for him being gone. There you go. And loved her Yellow Ribbon 3D Print Campaign for Mental Health and Suicide Prevention. So I went Hollywood with it and broke out the sparkles. That and all my yellow filament have been eaten by minions. So yeah, he posted this and tagged us, and thank you so much, David. We appreciate that. I love the Tech Banditry that you did. And there was a whole bunch of fun comments in here. And he was going back and forth too. So thanks, David. We appreciate you jumping in there. And there you go. Is this the minions? I don't know. Let's go see. That's another post that he did. Yeah. I'm like, what's going on? I could tell you've been live streaming a lot lately because you're really filling space here. I am. I am. I am just getting all the stuff out of there. I want to make sure we're good. So Abby Nath, thank you so much for bringing us up on that project. We can't wait to see you on Loyal Moses' show after hours. Loyal Moses after dark. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you muted me. Okay. No, I didn't mute you. I muted your computer. Never, never. There you go. If there's any questions at all. Yeah, I muted you. Thank you. Thank you. I probably should. I'm sitting next to a P1P. The bamboo lab P1P is like an arms reach on the floor right here. So I'm really surprised this mic is doing a very good job of keeping that out. So yeah, any other thing, anything else I need to bring up before we find Walter and get them in? That was for you. Unless I'm still muted. No, you're not muted. Sorry. I was typing in the private tab to see where Walter was. I looked down and his screen is gray, which means he's probably there, but his camera's off. Hopefully he can still hear us. Yeah. Or you know what happened? He probably backed out of that. He probably backed out of the tab. I did that before. Hey, hey, all right. You want to pull him in? Let's just do it. Let's just do it. I think he's ready. Ladies and gentlemen, Walter Welch, also known as Walter Welch. How are you doing? Doing excellent. Hang on. Hang on. We gotta go. I got my head set in. Are you what was different than you did earlier? Can you not hear me? We can hear you. But I think we're going back. Oh, I haven't done anything. It's all the same. We can hear yourself. He's on his phone, right? I am on a phone. Yeah. Is that a bad thing? Nope. You may just need to press down a little. Okay. Yeah. Does it work better when I have headphones in or something? Okay. I'll snag some headphones. Sorry, but let's do it. No, no. Don't be sorry. It's all good. Yeah, no, everything. He'll be back. So we knew an audio check before the show and everything was fine. It's all good. I'm super pumped. Either way, I'm always super pumped. I might have to pull out the Oreo rescue kit. That was Walter Welch. Everybody, thank you for joining. This is the end of the show. Congratulations. We need to do a cameo from Pooch at some point where we bring him on as a quote unquote guest, but he shows up for like two seconds, has technical issues and then never shows up again. Yeah. He's on the top of a mountain or something. That would be funny. Do you remember that when we were streaming and he had to drive to the top of the hill or mountain or whatever it was by his house to get us back? Well, Geary just made the guest mad. Hi. I'm sorry. I'm mad, Geary. All right, let's see. Walter, we got you back. Is that better? Possibly, maybe? Okay, good. Well, welcome to the show. We've got a crazy few minutes, but that's okay. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Walter Welch. You know him as Waltemus Prime. Probably, I mean, he's everywhere. But before we go any further, before we dive into everything, can you let everybody know like from you who you are, what you do, that kind of thing? And then we'll jump right in. Cool. Sounds good. My name is Walter Welch. I'm Waltemus Prime on Instagram. I was on that show Face Off on Sci-Fi Channel. I'm a makeup artist for film and television. Also, I do a lot of stuff for cosplayers and collectors. And yeah, I'm just an overall maker. I do all kinds of stuff. Awesome. I love that you were here like, yeah, I was on that show, Face Off. You know, that little one, that little show. A little show. A little twice. We won't bury the lead. I was gonna say, I think you were on twice. And if I remember right, you were a finalist two times, correct? Two times. Two time finalists. So you were in the final episode twice. Yep. I'm the two-time loser. I mean, most of us would probably say, yeah, but most of us would probably say you're like a two-time winner because most of us will never get there. So I mean, there's that. Thank you. I know. So if anybody have not seen that show, can you kind of like describe what you have to do if you like giving your elevator pitch about what it is, but no one heard about it before? Okay. It's a super fun competition reality TV show. Kind of like the Ink Masters and the food, the cooking ones. There's like, you know, a hundred different variations on different channels. But this one was a competition reality series where a bunch of different artists face off and competed against each other and with each other, doing special effects makeup for given challenges to try to emulate how they did it in the movies, behind the scenes, but in a reality competition way. This is pretty fun. It was on sci-fi channel. I called it the world's best boot camp. I had a ton of fun. That's awesome. And I bet it's a lot of fun to get to know the people you're competing with and, you know, like bounce ideas. You probably learned a bunch from there too, I imagine. Oh yeah. I learned so much and I kind of, I mean, I feel disrespectful to relate it to the military, but it kind of feels similar as in they took a group of us each season. I think there was 15 of us and we're fully sequestered. And if you make it throughout the entire competition, you're there three and a half months. So you're really sequestered for three and a half months. They take your cell phone. You're not allowed books or games or anything. No TV, no movies, no nothing for three and a half months. So basically you're stuck with these people and the only way to entertain yourself is with these people. So we all become very close and kind of develop a bond with each other because we went through this crazy experience together. I mean, like three and a half months, you don't get your phone? Yeah, no phone though. We got one phone call if you became a finalist. So if you become a finalist, three, a little over three months into it, we were kind of granted one phone call home. Why? So that why does connect you so much? What's the purpose of that? Yeah. We never thought it made too much sense, but it was so that we were fully focused on the challenges, fully focused on the show, but also no books, no TV, no movies, no form of entertainment like that so that we're not inspired or driven to take ideas from certain IP and put that certain IP on sci-fi channel where they don't own. But what about your family? I mean, like, say I have a wife and kids back home, like zero, you're cut off for three and a half months. Completely cut off. I'm guessing like when you sign up, it's just kind of like given your expected, like that's what you sign up for. Oh yeah, it's all in the contract system. I mean, they tell you ahead of time, be prepared, you're fully sequestered, you won't be able to talk to your family or anything. Wow. But you know, it kind of goes by pretty quickly and in a world where we're all glued to our phones, it was actually kind of nice. Sometimes I think about it all the time how much I miss not having my phone. And I mean, I grew up in, I'm sure you guys did too, grew up in a generation where we didn't have our phones. So it just, sometimes I kind of miss it. And having that experience was kind of cool because you're driven to, especially when you're making stuff, you want it to be perfect. You want it to be as good and as accurate as humanly possible, especially everybody who does props and things like that. You want it to be accurate to the game or the movie or whatever it is that you're making. So you're constantly checking your phone or you're constantly pulling up reference material. Whereas when you're just fully creative and you don't have that ability to check the internet, it kind of pulls something out of you that you didn't know you had creatively. Yeah, I could see that. And it's, man, I never even thought about how hard that might be. It's got to create that tension and the drama too that they're looking for because there's definitely their characters. I say characters, the people on the show, which are characters in themselves sometimes, right? There's some personalities for sure. That like fall back on that. Like I haven't seen my family. You see that in a lot of these shows, but you feel like, oh, they've talked to them though. I didn't realize that you're fully sequestered. Wow, that's pretty crazy. For whatever reason, that never gets brought up and never gets talked about when you're, as a viewer, watch because I was a fan long before I was on the show and I had no idea that they get fully sequestered. And especially in my line of work where we're doing prosthetics and special rights and makeup stuff, you constantly are double checking references. And you know, you want things to be as realistic as possible. So if you're doing like a cat creature, you're researching all these pictures of cats and snouts and teeth and stuff like that. So to not have that makes you more creative, but also like, there's never, there's never too many good makeups on the show where you're like, whoa, that could definitely be on a movie. If you see them up close, you'll see the mini flaws. Yeah. Well, I'm sure you're really pulling that out of your experience then because, you know, you're doing stuff. And Kristoff kind of like jumped ahead a little bit, but he's, you know, he did Master Chief as well. He's the twerking Master Chief though. Oh, nice. He's the twerking Master Chief now. You know, Oh, the, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he twerks the stage thing. I love Christopher. He's awesome with sinister props. Yeah. Sinister props. And so he's like, man, you got it. You got to contact Walter. Let me hit him up. I'm going to tell him your contact. But like you got to get him on the show. And he just, he just already threw it out there that you have the nicest. What was his actual words? He has the best Master Chief. Best Master Chief in existence. Existence. I greatly appreciate that. His is pretty, pretty darn cool as well. And that's, and that's this one here, right? Yep. Betrayal. Well, this up, but Betrayal. So is this, I got to start with this because we're a heavily 3D printed oriented. Is this 3D printed? No, it's, there's a couple of little elements that are 3D printed, but it's all, I'm mostly a foam fabricator. So it's mostly all foam fabbed. Got it. So the screw posts and everything on that looked like it was a, like you were modifying a helmet, like an existing helmet. Oh yeah. Yeah. I do. The helmet is the, the Jazzwares collectible helmet. Okay. Can you guys hear me? All right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Keep saying I'm getting disconnected. Yeah. It was the Jazzwares helmet. You can buy it from Best Buy or from GameStop. And the way it comes, it just doesn't look very good. So I, I took it all apart, repainted it. And then actually Christopher, he, he, his helmet, the Cortana chip lights up in the back. And I thought that was so cool. So I borrowed his idea and I 3D printed the little chip holder and plug that in there. And then resin printed the chip itself and then made it light up. So I altered it and made it look a lot better. And then yeah. So that part of the suit is, I mean, it's, you know, with the Jazzwares helmet and then the belt is 3D printed. And that's about, that's the only parts that are 3D printed. A couple of like the buckles, the detail stuff, the buckles are 3D printed. Sure. A couple of greebles on the back are 3D printed, just little stuff here and there. But the foam is just so much more comfortable. I bet nothing worse than wearing a full 3D printed armor and the little corners are stabbing you and it's way heavier. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of people with their, well, you see it in this picture with their Iron Man suit, say that too. And Oh, and those guys can barely move. Like they look fantastic, but they look very much Robo copying. What's going on here? You got to think that's the most relevant about what it's like to wear a 3BO costume. Yes, 3BO costume. Yeah. Or even Frank Peter Weller in Robocop. They had to drill and screw most of his parts in. I went to a, I went to a celebration with him on Sullivan and was hanging out with him while he was getting suited up and it took him about 45 minutes to an hour to get in suit and he could only survive it for about 30 minutes before he had to get back out. Oh, wow. Dedication. That is dedication. When you do, you do a lot of other stuff. So you said you're a makeup artist for TV and movie, right? Yep. You do stuff like this, which is your Krampus, right? Yeah, I make latex masks. Nice. Latex masks, silicone masks, prosthetics. So is this a mask or is this a mask somebody's wearing? That's an actual mask because I see it says you can get on Etsy and you made some for Etsy. But I thought that was just like a, you know, basically a mold. Like, you know, a molded prop. You sit there. That's an actual mask? That's an actual mask. Oh my gosh. Yeah. The one in the video is, it's my personal, like it's a mask that I foam filled and then put prosthetic eyes in it. So that particular one is not wearable. It's filled with foam, but you know, it, the mold is a latex mask. Sure. That is awesome. Christoph says his suit isn't stabby, but it's very heavy. He has some cool stuff about his suit to where he can move and squat and sit down and all these things that most of these suits can't do. So like he's got little elastic parts to where like the belt moves with his movements and he's really thought about certain things that a lot of us didn't think about. So big props to him. I've learned a bunch just from him and his movements. That's awesome. And so I, you know, I don't know if I could do it. I think you guys are bigger people than me because I'd be in that thing like dying, pouring sweat. And I'm sure everybody's doing that, right? You're just like dying in that thing. I guess when you're in the moment, you're in the moment. I did three hours at San Diego Comic-Con and I thought I was going to die, but I ran into him, sinister props, Christopher. I ran into him earlier and he was in the suit. And then later that night at a club, he's still in the suit. He was in the suit for like 14 hours. So it takes, I mean, I can't do that. I think I've got a good four. I think I did the suit at the beginning of October. I wore it for five hours and that was the most I had ever been in it. That's crazy. So moral of the story, if you're going to make a suit, be prepared to suffer in it. I think they're all, I mean, it's fun to be in it and everybody loves it, but it's definitely not comfortable. Even the best ones aren't exactly comfortable. I mean, some more comfy than others, but for the most part, I mean, we're all going to be sweating and things are going to get uncomfortable. You get this weird pain in between your shoulder blades, you know, little uncomfortabilities. And then you realize it's the first day of a three-day con. Yeah. Yeah. Next San Diego, I just, I bring friends to wear the stuff and then I pass out business cards and stuff. I won't be wearing it again. That was too difficult for me. That's a good idea. I like that idea. So you said you do, you do like the masks. So the masks, do you create like a mold and then you silicone pour them like you said? Or is that kind of what you do? Yeah. How do you create your masks? I hand sculpt everything with either water-based clay or oil-based clay and it all gets molded and then cast in either latex or silicone and from there you get a latex copy that you paint, trim, clean up, paint it. It's ready to go. And I mean, you've done a ton of these things. I'm just looking through, just looking through your Instagram really. And it looks like a lot of these things are masked. Wait, you did the turtles? My screen just shows a loading thing, so I never know what you're looking at. Oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. So you got to show, you make the shell for the turtles. Yeah, yeah, I... Spread your space prosthetics and cowl and some armor pieces it looks like. I have a couple of people that come back to me every year for Halloween and they always have crazy ideas for their family for the holidays and one year they wanted to be the turtles. So they outsourced the masks. I'm not sure who did the masks, but I did the shells, a couple of the little extra stuff and I did the splinter mask and all the shredder armor. Nice. That is dedication as a family. Oh yeah, they are all about Halloween and they put on this big thing for their community and the whole community and people from miles away come up and it's like a theme park line in the back of their house, mostly to take pictures with the owners, but they get candy and all kinds of stuff. It's really cool. So what I'm looking at now is you said super fun makeup I got to do for at... Oh, I see this one. Yeah, I did. Yeah. It's like a Minotaur. That was somebody else's for their Halloween. Sure. So when you did this, you start with like a base layer. Is this a silicone mask first? That is actually a foam latex prosthetic that it was purchased from... I think it's in a caption. I don't remember. Okay. Infected FX. Infected FX. It's a piece that they made and the person, the model who was wearing it, they purchased it and they just needed somebody to apply it and paint it and put it all together. Which is kind of how it happens in the movies. If anyone is curious, most of the artists who win the Oscars and stuff, typically, sometimes they are, but typically they have nothing to do with the creation of the prosthetic. Sometimes they most certainly are, like Joe Harlow is very involved in the process of making the pieces and Bill Corsos, Rick Baker, those greats, they're definitely involved in the making of the pieces. But for the most part, a piece gets made at a lab designed from designers and then the designs get approved, sent to the lab. That's then a live cast is taken of the actor and then from there, they build the prosthetic or the muscle suit or the creature suit or whatever it is. They build it on the live cast of the actor or model and then it gets made in the lab, prepainted in the lab and shipped to set usually Atlanta or Vancouver or Toronto. And then from there, there's some artists who just kind of fine tune detail and put it all together. And that's, is that what you do? I kind of do both. So sometimes I'm the fine tuner and then, I mean, I prefer to be the lab stuff. I really do like being in the lab and creating it from head to toe. But recently I've been doing a lot more of the fine tune on set stuff, which is great to pace a lot more. And typically that's when people say, what have you been up to? And what do you do? And they want to hear what movies and what shows you've been on. And in the lab, it's like, yeah, I worked on this or that. And then you say, so you were in Toronto? No, I was never in Toronto. I just did it in Burbank or wherever it is that you were. So latex mask comes, the actor, actress, whoever it is, sitting there, you have this thing in front of you. What is the process of like taking that, just put it on them? I mean, it can't be that easy, right? Yeah. So there's latex masks, which are just pull over, you know, Halloween, you can buy it, minor, you know, a lot better quality than you can buy at the Halloween store. But then there's foam latex, which is a type of prosthetic. And that's the type of prosthetic. It was used a lot more in the 80s and 90s. Nowadays, they kind of switched over to mostly silicone stuff. Anytime it's foam latex today, it's usually just to prevent weight because silicone weighs a lot. And foam latex is like a spongy material. So it's soft, flexible and really lightweight. But when I do it, I have an oven. And so I do a lot of foam latex personally. So you get a model or an actress and you prep their skin to kind of make sure it doesn't have any oils or lotion or any of that. So you wipe all that down, prep the skin. And most of the time you got to bald cap the person just to protect their hair and give you a lot more surface area to glue things to. It's not that bad actually. But you bald cap a person, put a bald cap on. And then from there, you just kind of slowly glue the appliance to the face around the eyebrows, stuff like that. And then at the end of the day, they take it off and you have to do it again and again and again until the show movie, whatever it is is over. Yeah, if you're talking 30 days, it's a 30 day shoot. That's 30 days on and off, on and off, on and off. So you have to like be real and it's a new piece every day. So. Oh really? Yeah, you can't reuse a lot of the pieces you can't reuse. So when you take it off, you destroy it basically. And you just real careful with their skin because they have to come back and do it tomorrow. So usually it's kind of like a spa treatment. You're real slow, subtle. You use removers. You kind of slightly peel out it and massage with removers to take the piece off. And then you kind of we put hot towels on their face and put a cream of cold cream on their face afterwards. Just really try to take care of the model or actress once you take everything off so that they can come back and do it the next day. That is crazy. So you're saying like a 30 day shoot. Say you get hired, you're working with yourself or whatever company you work with, right? You go down. It's a 30 day shoot. So you are, are you just doing it in the morning and doing it when they're done shooting? Or do you have to be there like during the shooting and stuff that way if something happens you can fix it or how does that work? Yeah. Makeup artist is longer is on set longer than anybody. So usually it's like a 4am call time. You're there early. You're probably there probably about an hour before the actor or model shows up just so that you can get all your stuff set up and ready to go. And then it could be a three hour application. So three hours of makeup application and then they're going to shoot for anywhere from six to eight hours. And you have to be there for the whole entire thing just in case something happens. You're kind of just babysitting most of the time. You're sitting around doing nothing. And then at the end, not sequestered, right? Not sequestered. At the end, you have to remove everything. So we're there before people are putting things up and we're there after everything's taken down. So it's really long, long set days for makeup artists. But like you said, it pays well because you got to be there the whole time. I assume. Yeah, you got to be there the whole time. Lots of overtime. That's awesome. Well, before I show something, we got a couple of questions. Christoph, Mr. Prop says your chief parts are from latex, right? Yes. Okay. Nice. And Offset Maker Lab says- Oh, my soft part. He says your chief soft part. So he's talking about all my undersuit stuff. I'm one of the few master chiefs out there and I only took my own horn here because I see so many master chiefs and none of them have the undersuit parts. So I'm one of the few master chiefs that I hand sculpted all the inner between stuff, the undersuit, like the ab, you can see in between the bicep area, this area here, and the neck. I've got a neck seal and shoulder parts and all that stuff. And that was all hand sculpted and then cast in latex. Wow. So it's more comfortable then that way, right? The latex is more comfortable than 3D printed or the foam stuff, but it's still like, it's very hot. Yeah. Oh, I bet. Yeah, it doesn't allow any heat to release or anything. So it kind of, that's why I don't build, I know a lot of people when they contact me and they want an undersuit, they want me to make them an entire undersuit. And I try to avoid, I try to tell them to avoid that at all costs because it would be so much hotter. You would overheat and there's just nowhere for your sweat to release and there's nowhere for your body to cool off. Even in the big foam armor, there's still air and space in between your body and the piece to where you can breathe. And there's a little bit of excess heat release. Whereas if I were to put you in a full latex suit, you have nowhere to breathe, there's nowhere for you to kind of cool yourself off. So I try to just do the parts where you can see it through the armor. And then the parts that you can't see it, that's where you release your heat and it's more comfortable for you. So. It's a good idea. I can imagine, like, I mean, it basically like sticking yourself in a sauna. 100%. Or latex, you know, those, those plastic or those, what are the pleather pants, you know? 100%. Yeah, if you've ever seen somebody take, there's like videos of cosplayers, they'll take their latex glove off and it's just drip sweat. That's exactly what it would be like. It's, it's, it's, it's hot and gross everywhere, everywhere. Offset maker lab, our 3D printed, let's see, oops, our 3D printed body or head molds becoming more common for creature. Wow. Creator actors, feature actors. Wow. Yes. I could talk. That'd be great. I get, I get the question. It's, so big studios, they have the, you know, the $10,000 scanners and whatnot. So traditional live casting was always done with the same way when you go to the dentist and you take impressions of your teeth. That's, that's how traditional live casting was done with your face, your head, your body, everything. We do the same thing with the, it's usually silicone. Sometimes it's alginate, the teeth, when you do your teeth, it's an alginate form. That's how traditional live casting was done. But today with technology, scanning, printing, stuff like that, most of the big studios do scanned live casts. So you'll come in, they do a lot of the same things, still bald cap you just so that you can get all the details of your head. Sure. And they'll just take a scan. And then from there, they'll mold that scanned piece and, you know, make it in a resin or epoxy, different materials to make it strong, but also lightweight. And then now a lot of molds is done by matrix molding. Okay. Matrix molding is basically when you, you create the shell, the mother mold, and you key it on the inside, so that when you fill in the mother mold with your silicone, it just forms and perfectly molds whatever you're molding, but also fills in the keys into the mother mold. That's probably a terrible way of describing a matrix mold. But what's really common nowadays is you can scan whatever it is that you're about to mold. So if you're molding or a face or something, you can scan it, upload it into Blender or something. And then from Blender, you can sculpt how thick you want your, your silicone to be. And you basically put a layer over your scanned object and key it and then reverse imprint it in Blender or in one of the softwares to cut it. And you can then basically create your imprint of your mother mold and then print the mother mold. So you'd have a printed mother mold and then you fill in the jacket with silicone. And that's super popular. I don't know how to do that. I'm not that advanced, but I see a lot of people doing their molds like that. And I think it's so beautiful. It's, it takes, I think it's way cheaper because you blow through so many materials when you're making those mother molds and it gets pretty pricey versus just printing the jacket in a couple of different pieces. Right. That's, it's definitely the way the future is looking to do all mold making. And you're saying use Blender. So I mean, that's something that a lot of people would be familiar with here. So that's pretty cool that. Yeah, I think a lot of them either will use Blender, AutoCAD or Fusion 360. Sure. Nice. All the things that's pretty cool. Well, and I'm looking at, so I have your Etsy up and I wanted to look at a couple. I mean, you have a few things on here currently. And one of the cool things is the, the, the Skeletor. There we go. Red Skull Anatomy Ghost Rider Black Mask. There you go. So throw in those, those names. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You gotta throw them all in there. Right. But what's cool is you have a couple different styles you have with a, with a hood, the skull only and the skull with the neck. And if you wanted to do, I mean, I'm guessing the hood comes, does that come with the neck and the hood? Yeah. It all comes just like that. Just like this, right? Yeah. I mean, this is killer. 250 bucks. And you, that is a, basically a mold, right, of what you did and you painted that. Yeah. You just, I can cast them up and then paint them and then I hand sew the, the hoods onto them. And you hand sew the hoods right on them. Yep. And then, you know, if you just wanted the, the skull or something, you get something like that and that's with the neck too, right? Yep. And this is kind of however you want it painted is how I paint it. Really? Yeah. And you just work with the person. So like, hey, I want a skull with the neck, this 200 bucks. How do you want it painted? Exactly. Wow. So, and then when I get this, is it only one size? So like, what happens? I get this thing and it just like doesn't go on. Yeah. It is one size, but it's cut up the back. So up the back to about like right below the top of the head. So if it, if like you, I have a extra, extra large head. So when I have to wear these things, I have to have that seam so that it's kind of open in the back so that my big fat head can fit in it. So yeah, that's like right here. It fits most. Yeah. That one, you don't see it because I took the picture before I cut it, but yeah. So you cut it up like right up in here. Yep. All the way to where the cracks meet at the top. Yep. Okay. Wow. And then that way you can put it on and that's really cool. And you know, you have a bunch of different stuff in here, which is really cool because like, you know, if you're looking for an equalizer, there you go. The frog lizard. There you go. I know somebody needs the hands too, right? But that's awesome that you do that. And the prices are like very, very reasonable. I mean, you see stuff out there where it's not even a mask and it's, you know, just a mold painted and it's, you know, $1,000 or whatever. And I think that's pretty cool that you're doing like, we could reach out and get a, basically a custom mask essentially from you. Totally. Totally. Wow. That's pretty awesome. So check it out. Yeah. I appreciate that. Welsh creations. Yeah. I try to keep everything, you know, reasonably priced. I see a lot of people just like price gouge like crazy. I just feel weird doing it. So I try to, whatever, I am obviously, I want to make profit, but at the same time, I don't think some things are worth, you know, if it's a latex mask, it's hard to charge you $800 for that because I know how much it costs to make. So. Sure. Sure. We do have a question. How would Walter recommend breaking into the special effects industry today, especially if you don't want to move to LA? I get that because I did the, I moved to LA. Atlanta. Atlanta is like one of the largest hubs for makeup and movies. A lot of movies get shot in Atlanta. So you don't have to be in LA. There's a huge movie presence in Texas, Austin, Dallas area. There's a huge movie presence on the East Coast in Jersey and New York and stuff up there. And then of course huge presence in Georgia down in Atlanta. But if you wanted to break in, what I always recommend people is the Stan Winston School of Character Arts is an online school that you can subscribe to. I think right now it's 40% off. They don't pay me, but they should. But 40% off you can, because I refer them all the time, 40% off on their subscriptions, which I think puts you at like 30 bucks a month. And you get unlimited views of their classes. And some of the classes are taught by Oscar winners. You can watch an Oscar winner apply a makeup. Bill Corso shows how he applies a burn makeup, just like he did on Deadpool or some, you know, one of the world's best sculptors painting or sculpting or painting their own mask and showing you how step by step, how they sculpted and then molded and then cast and then painted a mask. So it's honestly, it's worth every penny. It's super cool. You get to learn from the best in the industry. Like there you can see how to make prosthetic eyes, how to make blood gags, how to mold, how to mold a tube of, sorry, a three quarters mask or a full around the head mask. They show how to do animatronics, how to program. I mean, anything you can think of, they have a video or a class for and it's fascinating. I've been a subscriber forever. I've learned so much from them. I couldn't recommend it anymore. That is super cool. And like you said, it looks like it's 40% off and you can jump in and get it. There you go. So for a year, it's $215 for the whole year if you wanted to do it that way. And you get unlimited everything and you can pretty much go in and learn. So say you're, you take this, you go in, you're practicing, you're doing your thing, you're learning, where do you start after that? Like obviously posting everything on Instagram because everybody's on Instagram with that kind of stuff it looks like. It feels like. You have to have some type of presence on Instagram or Facebook. There's so many groups on Facebook that you can post to and kind of get your name out there and just showcase your work. But a huge place where you can meet people, network and pass out business cards and stuff are these conventions. So Monster Palooza is probably the biggest makeup convention there is. It's in Burbank or I think there's one in Burbank and one in Pasadena every year. There's Son of Monster Palooza and Monster Palooza. I think Monster Palooza is in June, June 1st and 2nd. And then Son of Monster Palooza is usually the last week of September or early October. They're both great conventions. You get to see a lot of stuff from the big studios that make everything like Iron Head Studios is usually there and they make all the superhero suits like the Batman suit and Aquaman suit stuff like that. And then there's a lot of cool stuff on display from movie memorabilia to history of makeup stuff like that. But you could be walking around this convention and bump into Rick Baker. And for those of you that don't know who that is he's one of the greatest makeup artists of all time. He's kind of like the odd father of makeup. He's retired but he did American World in London and all the men in black stuff and just a lot of great things over the years. And like you could be walking around and bump into him and talk to him or Tom Savini will be there and you can be walking around and bump into him. Like it's just it's a great place to network and meet people and kind of pass your business cards out or ask you know what can you do. It's a great place to get advice stuff like that. Right. One I imagine networking getting to knowing people getting your stuff out there the views and stuff I'm sure Instagram that kind of thing when you become popular you get more views when you get more followers stuff like that. And then you know that gets your foot in the door somewhere you know. It could for sure. It could. Once your foot's in the door you know then it's just up to you to you know kind of push your way in right. Yeah absolutely. Or if you're if you're in any of those key locations California Dallas Georgia Jersey one of those key locations you can go and try to apply it one of the various shops where they make the stuff basically and you can like how I started out I started out as a just a lab tech basically. And in the beginning I did nothing but sweep floors and clean molds and you know basic stuff but then I became a shop runner and as a runner you basically are just going around to all the different warehouses and supply stores and you're getting all the supplies and going back and forth and stuff like that. But you work your way up until you're a silicone tech and then you're running all the silicone for the prosthetics and appliances painting you could be a painter you could be a sculptor you know whatever it is that you you kind of have a desire whatever your passion is and that is a great way into the industry too is if you can if you're in one of those key locations or you want to move to one of those key locations and you kind of work your way in through the lab side and once you're in the lab side every day you meet people who are makeup artists who are working on whatever film television thing that's going on so you could always be like hey can I assist you for free or can I assist you or somebody will be like hey paying 18 bucks an hour for an assist you'll be on set for eight hours whatever. Sure that's cool. It works like that and that's a good avenue for you. That's a good way to get you know get your in and like a few years ago now I was in Atlanta for for some other stuff and I we literally were down there to work for three hours but I was there for five days but they you know they paid me they paid me actually I think it was there from Thursday night and we left Monday morning or Sunday night Monday morning whatever that days is but but I worked for three hours they paid for the whole trip and all that stuff and I say worked I set up and tore down and that I didn't really count that in work but it was probably like nine hours of total work for all the time but in the off time we got to go around to all the studio tours and in the movie tours where they drive you around to the different locations of the sets and walking dead was huge you know back that way and I'm guessing this was I don't even know this was 20 actually no it was 20 uh 2016 is when it was still in the still in the height of walking dead the height of walking dead yeah we went over we saw you know where we just saw a ton of stuff and one of the cool things we learned as we were going through all the different places for walking dead all the different places for hunger games is that Georgia was huge for filming they were filming baby driver at the time so all the cars and stuff were everywhere which was really cool to see but the cool thing we learned is that if you ever see a show or a movie that it was probably filmed in Georgia if you see that Georgia Peach at the end of the credits they get a they get a big tax break if they put that peach in there and so I never knew that and then all of a sudden you start watching these shows and at the end of your favorite show it's like huh there's the peach at the end of a movie because you know with all these Marvel movies now you have to wait till the end of the credits to see if there's anything for any movie now um but you see that Georgia Peach and you're like oh and then you start seeing that and I'm sure the other states and you know do stuff like that too but oh yeah the big tax incentive states are Georgia and then Vancouver and Toronto that's why if you watch anything you'll always you almost always see Georgia Vancouver or Toronto at the end of the credits that's awesome well I know we're gonna jump into some hot makesu but is there anything you worked on that you can talk about like that people would know recently or in the past I don't know what you can talk about so I don't know I uh I was just on a 24 movie they uh I think I don't know if the name will continue to be what it is but it was originally called Earth Mama um I it's like a coming of age uh mother mother movie it's it looks like it's going to be one of those weird 824 movies um and I did all the pregnant bellies and stuff with Pandora effects here in in the Bay Area um but it should be weird like all those movies uh yeah and then uh I just got off another movie too but it's uh it's like a short story it's called Freaky Tales I don't know how much of that's been been uh divulged yet so we can't we can't talk too much about that right that's cool yeah but other than that I've just been doing my own thing I make make props and costumes and whatnot and sell it to people on Etsy being sequestered for three months at a time on TV shows um but I wish I mean if they called me again I'd be begging a heartbeat that's how fun you would do it again oh yeah I mean you've been there twice it's like the maybe like the the biggest loser episode or no I'm just joking I'll come back three time loser now we want to see you win we want to see you win um I know one of my aunts is a huge face-off uh huge face-off fan she loves the show and and I she saw my post on Facebook and she said wait wait you got you know I was like yeah just tune in so if you're watching hey um I don't want to you know I don't want to I want to out you but um but yeah that was pretty cool it's always fun when it's somebody you might recognize or bump into or or something like that um and I love your stuff I absolutely have some ideas and I'm gonna watch your Etsy store because I think it's so cool that you can like I think I want this that you're offering obviously it has to be something you're offering I'm assuming I do custom commission work too so like even I've done a bunch of stuff that I don't list where it's like hey I want to be the only person like right now I'm working on a jar jar banks for somebody and uh he doesn't want anybody else to have it so it's just for him he you pay extra for that but right right I imagine you gotta pay a little extra because it's you know it's not going to keep making your money right exactly yeah if it's something that it's just for one person and one off it it makes no sense for me to do it at like an affordable price because I can't make any more money off of it that doesn't make sense yeah yeah well yeah I'm open to commission so anybody who wants a custom mask or custom good old jar jar prosthetic custom costume I do that too that's so cool well um can we get gym masks oh my god no nobody wants that nobody wants that all right we're gonna do some hot makes uh we I know we're running a little bit behind but we'll catch up maybe during the hot makes so um hang out real quick we're gonna run a bumper ladies and gentlemen here's the hot makes all right a quick shout out we'll start with first uh this was a shout out that uh Caleb posted for abby math when she was on the show uh I think last week with david um great episode both for david and abby the teacher I hope there are many more teachers like you out there abby so I think we all feel like that thank you again for being on last week um we definitely had to toss that out there um next we got local maker michigan um only five prusa meters away from a free spool so jump on there um this is let's see an e3d online smoky mcburnout buggy uh for a printables contest which is uh printables.com is um a site you can go find 3d prints at and uh let's see it's protopasta spittin seeds gray but I wanted to toss this out there because um how this works walter is people can tag their own stuff with hashtag hot makes or find other people's stuff which happens quite often or anything cool that they see that's a make out in you know out in the wild there um and this particular one I wanted to um pump local maker michigan for one it was his birthday I believe this is birthday a couple days ago so happy birthday happy birthday for two because we need to get you to your five prusa meters so you can you know get that free spool of filament so uh jump on to the printables and and get that done um but I also love the the uh smoky mcburnout it's like a little golf cart with a nose you know canister in the back and then the the supposed to be like the smoke from the tires burning out I love that that's cool um what do we got oh this one I posted recently I don't know if you guys saw this so the p1p is a bamboo lab printer that just um on black friday became available to pre-order and I did a live stream and and I shot some custom panels out that I did uh for my for my channel there and I you know I wanted to make sure we got it out there to the masses if you hadn't seen this yet um this thing is going to be a lot of fun to customize I mean this was just one example but um it's pretty cool it starts out like just a black frame and then they're going to give you the template basically you need to build whatever you know whatever you want so that's going to be pretty sweet um the Flintstones car yes I love it uh let's see honey badger I thought you'd like this one Walter um this is uh from honey badger 3d print and paint this is uh kratos leviathan axe printed on uh the bamboo lab printer very cool and uh let's see there's a little bit of I know it's probably hard to see let's see if we can get a better or there was a that was a pretty good shot now I want to do this because I know you're on a there we go I look so good so uh kind of pretty awesome has all this stuff in the back I see airbrush stuff and but this thing looks really good um I I paint with my fingers I I suck at art like that so um to see something like this uh it's just really cool do you do many like props like this oh yeah yeah a bunch of different swords machetes knives guns awesome there's a there's a quick uh video hopefully I'm muted yeah I mean do you get sounds off there you go I'll paint it and ready for action I love it looks so good so good um so congrats to that honey badger 3d printed paint love it love it not my skills oh geez sitting at the edge of desk oh boy um local maker mission again Michigan again with this this is a 930% Lego minifig so there you go 930% I love it love it um and then I had to put in the next one because he said 930% now with mohawk and flying v guitar nice so I mean you gotta you gotta have the the mohawk in the flying v if you're gonna have a 930% Lego minifig look at it standing on the printer yeah I see that yeah it's standing on uh looks like a Prusa mini um there you go there's the there's the Prusa mini like all the tiny like individual pieces one at a time yeah this is true um I have a feeling he printed on something different but hey if you print it on the mini that's pretty awesome um I think I need this I think I need this in my life uh the the minifig with the gym hair with the you know you gotta get the you know the gym hair and the flying v I love that don't tempt me let's do it um Liz she's with us I saw her chatting a lot here inspired by uh the edge of tech's festivist star misread last week on hot makes I've added added a festivist poll to uh to principles.com to air our grievances show feats of strength and discover miracles of the season um so she had these uh basically these these stars here and I don't know why I said festivist but there you go I did and now she added it so you can put your uh I'm hoping Liz that you added it so you can actually put these on top right that would be awesome can you can you put your stars on top of the festivist poll please tell me you can I don't see that in the pictures but for uh for festivist do you leave cookies and water out cookies and water yes absolutely there you go someone uh K2 Kevin finally air my grievances and style uh a little festivist poll printed there um so if you want festivist for the rest of us um oh there we go yes challenge for next week yes make the it will be sweet if I could take the the stars that you made and put them like match them with the top um where it's like cut out in the star it'll like slot right in you know like a little puzzle piece that holds the star in yeah that's a challenge for next week Liz but I love the festivist poll nice work without somebody went out of their way to do something for you and you're like all right new challenge yes well she if I remember right she just started um learning how to model stuff so that's perfect I think this is awesome um it exceeds my modeling abilities already so all right what do we got next here um oh yeah this one was awesome so uh for for context um if I could have if you could have any or if I could have any superpower I would be and then they tagged the person in this but check this out uh here you go stop motion nice yes stop motion in like motion that it's just crazy love stop motion the the amount of time that probably went into this scene is probably absurd uh huh I mean all the moving parts all the different people in the background all you know everything we look at how often look at how often the shirt changes throughout the entire video you know it's probably like 10 hours for 10 seconds days you know yeah it's so good and this is 16 seconds and you gotta imagine you have to stop motion every character anything in that whole scene that moves not only that but the camera movements it's you've got traditional like cinematography camera movements going along with this yeah you're following it down yeah that's so good so good um let's see what we got two more a couple more uh another thing that I think llama tagged us in um I could watch this literally all day this is a collection of slow motion videos objects falling into water and uh water and cornflower results in spectacular fluid motion I'm not gonna play two minutes of this but I could watch it all day because just the different way things react is whoa awesome I mean that's a jellyfish to me upside down the next one it's definitely a jellyfish this one yeah yeah oh yeah so good wow oh wait oh man that was one of the total term inception it looks altered it does look at that wow it's so good oh an egg I love it like you said it doesn't look real it definitely looks you know definitely looks fake so grab your cell phone which most of them can do slow mo now and do some slow mo stuff people it looks like a like a cd computer like a liquid simulation yeah now that's cool super cool I wish I had that camera you know honestly like most of our cell phones can do um slow motion now all right we gotta see one more here like us yeah this one's cool last but not least yeah I don't want to watch the two minutes of this two minutes later yes I was fast forwarding it's so good pretty cool I love it I love it the things we get to see on the show I I love that because you know a lot of times I wouldn't see this stuff anyway I don't have time to look at everything and I love that you guys tag us and stuff like that thank you thank you llama I wouldn't want to be the guy cleaning up that last one not at all all right last but not least Chris Travis and well bam this is uh let's see there we go there there's a uh this is well he tagged everybody I don't see it did he say what it was yeah I'm trying to find that I'm guessing it was an earlier post I don't know maybe um um cap tubes fire five blue PLA polymaker uh poly light sparkle dark green three minutes in a UV light oh so good it glows just awesome the effects you can get from 3d printing huh nice work Chris um you could use this in eyes couldn't you like something similar where do you guys use UV in in modeling a lot I'm saying I should say UV reactive paint like stuff that would glow oh oh yeah yeah in painting for sure body painting big time sign me up um no no not for my oh god oh god please no yeah nobody wants that either I love it I love it all right real quick a couple quick things next week we'll announce a guest soon probably um also don't forget to go check out abby math right after this over on loyal Moses show and December 12th we have Anna from the little house of lights she'll be joining us probably along the side of Lindsay my wife um if you watched my video from yesterday about the svo uh yeah the civil svo six that I really started some stuff with with the title and the thumbnail um you'll know uh that Anna from little house of lights at the end of the video spoiler alert uh I'm gonna I actually sent her that printer because I think it's so good so if you haven't watched her yet spoiler alert if you have well thanks for putting up with it um but she'll be on on the 12th I cannot wait to talk to her she's she's doing some really cool stuff with miniatures we have some of her stuff my my wife ordered some stuff from her and it is ridiculous uh the stuff she's doing with resin and miniatures which is really cool resin printing and miniatures but um before we go Walter one more time who are you um kind of what you do and and most of all where can we find you if we want to come buy some stuff or anything yes please my name is Walter Welsh on Instagram I am waltamistprime definitely come check me out follow me I make a lot of cool stuff on there from 3d printing to costuming to hand sculptures mold making all kinds of stuff so check me out waltamistprime on instagram and I'm Welsh creations on etsy if you want to purchase any latex masks or reach out to me for some kind of a customer commission and all the all of his links are in the description to perfect find those links check it out and if you want uh one of his masks or something custom maybe hit him up uh maybe you guys can work something out uh Chris Travis yeah complete clickbait okay it was clickbait but it was true clickbait I didn't lie no lying at all in the video so I didn't like say my god we're gonna blow up and we never blew up so there's that anyways everybody have a great night thank you for being here once again Walter thank you so much for hanging out with us I really appreciate it uh Geary and I had a blast I learned a lot and I can't wait to go I'm gonna go back and watch the seasons now uh of face off because 13 is way better just just skip 10 and just watch 13 skip 10 and go straight to 13 I like it we'll stick with us we'll be right back with you everybody else have a great night uh go check out Abby on the little Moses show if you want to I believe that's on twitch and uh otherwise we'll send a link to her tweet in the comments too perfect the tweet is in the comments um and everybody else we'll see you next week right here on hot makes have a good night bye everybody thank you so much see ya was it really quick bait I mean really maybe it maybe it was I don't what are you