 Save 10% with my code Bobby10 on raw, organic, grass-fed and grass-finished, freeze-dried organ meats from grassland nutrition. Link in the description box. Alright guys, welcome back to the channel if you're new man with Bobby. Guys, we are back to react to Dr. Zuckerneig this time with his video and atheist versus Dr. Zuckerneig worth watching. The video is a bit older, therefore the quality is not as crisp. Nevertheless, I can't wait to see the human lexicon in action again. Dr. Zuckerneig, the man with an answer to everything. Let's have a look. Now, I believe that we have some questions from the brother's mic on the left hand side. Go ahead. Hello, Dr. Zuckerneig. My name is Harris. I'm from Phoenix, Arizona in the United States. I'm an entrepreneur and a marketing manager. Two of my friends in America have converted watching YouTube videos of you, one of them a Christian, one of them an atheist. One of my friends seems to me like he's putting on an accent. Doesn't seem American to me. How to deal with an atheist DVD of yours, which I did watch. But that didn't answer my question. And I've asked this question to a lot of people with no satisfactory answers. A lot of intelligent people. Of all the scholars that I've ever watched on YouTube, in my opinion, you are the most rational, logical, easy to understand kind of scholar that I've ever come across in my life. Easy to understand for sure. It's really important that this question is answered because I've never had a satisfactory answer for this question. My question is like a coin with two sides. The first side of it is this. And this is the question. I'm somewhere between an atheist and agnostic. I'm not sure where. Which would make more sense. The agnostic position at least admits that they do not know. Fair enough. The atheist position, on the other hand, is anti-theism. So therefore makes an absolute statement about God at the same time will claim that morals are relative, that truth is relative, that there is no absolute truth. But you're making an absolute truth claim, but saying that there is no God. How do you explain this, atheists? God has created this entire universe. And the Quran speaks a lot about how it's taken so many days and mountains and this and that. And life is going to be a test and whatnot. My question is, way before God decided to create this entire universe, before he decided to put human beings, before he decided to send Prophet Muhammad or Adam and Eve, way before he even planned about doing any of this, he knew the end result of it. He knows in the end, he will be disappointed by certain people and he will throw them in a health fire. He knows they will be burning. He knows they'll be tortured. And that is when they'll be repenting for what they've done way before. Yeah, it's a limited belief yet again, because there is no before within God. So God created and it was. That's basically what it is. We here in our temporary timeframe, in our illusion of meta space time, we see it a certain way. We see that there is a beginning and end, but there is no beginning or end with God. And therefore God created. There was no yesterday. There was no past. There was no future. God simply created. He created the entire universe. He knows the outcome is going to be bad. It may be good for certain people who are in heaven, but he knows that he can save those people. But you don't even have a reference to good and bad. Why is it bad to go to hell as an atheist? Yet again, you have no universal morals. So therefore, why would you claim that going to hell is bad out of your relativistic worldview? It is equal. There is absolutely no differentiation is equally good, equally right, equally wrong. It doesn't matter. It's just relative. Going to heaven or hell shouldn't even concern you from being in hell way before he even decided to go ahead with the creation. Yet he decides to go ahead with it with all his godly logic. Why would he? And on top of that, he's playing God right now by believing he knows the outcome. You don't even know the end of the story. Only God knows. So why do you assume that it ends in some sort of tragic? I want to do that. The question, if I can just put it in this manner, how can God be so sadistic that he would actually go ahead with the plan, which he knows is going to end up in that matter? That's the first side of the coin. The second side of the coin is for some reason, what is sadistic? Are we talking about suffering? If so, why is suffering bad out of the atheistic worldview? There is absolutely no explanation why suffering would be bad. Even if you want to bind it to biological suffering, you say, oh, it hurts. And therefore it is bad, even though that wouldn't equate it at all, then you cannot continue and speak about the metaphysical suffering that you would endure in hell. First of all, most you don't believe in hell. But nevertheless, in hell, you would leave your physical body behind, you would have a different type of body. There would be a totally different type of suffering yet again. Why would you even discuss this? I believe that, okay, God is almighty and he understands everything is great. God is great. Why is God insisting in the Quran that look at the mountains, look at the protons, the electrons, this and that. Everything is so synchronized. How amazing I am. Why is he forcing us to find his creation amazing when it is a piece of cake for God? I mean, he just had to say kuhn and it was done. Then why is it a big deal if God has made this entire universe, which is so amazing? Because for God, it's nothing. Yeah, isn't that amazing? So for God, it's absolutely nothing. For him, it's really no big deal to create this entire universe, multiple universe. If he wants to, it's no big deal to him. But to you, it is. And the Quran addresses you, of course, and shows you the beauty within this world. It is for you. Again, for the sole reason that it is amazing. It's for you. Gratitude. But as an atheist, you don't need to show gratitude. So it's fine. That's a good question. And he has seen some of my tapes on YouTube, even of atheism and this question that's troubling him, he hasn't got the answer to. The brother asked a question that Almighty God knows everything before He created the heaven and the earth, before He created human being, before Prophet Muhammad came here. Peace be upon him. He knew everything. If he knew that some will go to heaven, majority will go to hell. So why did He create the human being? Isn't it sadistic? It's a basic question, correct? Second question, I'll come to it later on. Brother told you that majority will go to hell. Well, even if one person was going, it doesn't make any sense. Even if one person goes to hell, he could have avoided that. I mean, he could avoid being disappointed. Again, as a father, I could avoid my son crying about candy. I should give him candy all the time. Let's not give him any healthy food. Let's just give my kid candy and ice cream all day long, because I could avoid that child crying. That would be the right decision according to the atheist. It's all about what feels good. That is the atheist logic. As long as it feels good, it must be right. Even though there is no right and wrong. Absolutely ridiculous. Why is it wrong for God to send people to hell? Explain that out of an atheistic worldview. Why? Of course. I'll reply. The brother said, even if one person goes to hell, it is as though God would be disappointed. God doesn't get disappointed ever. Now, coming to your question, I started a school. I started a school and you may have heard Islam International School. If a teacher takes an examination, if she's just, while she is giving the examination, she writes in the maths paper, two plus two is equal to how much? The student in front of her or him, the teacher, writes five. She can very well tell the student change five to four. Would it be just on the teacher during the test and examination to correct the student who's writing the wrong answer? Right, but if she has an option that the student doesn't need to do any of that and still just go and get the certificate. No, no, no. I'm asking a simple question. I'm asking the right, but if she would have the option, if she would have the option, so if she would have the option to not put the student through the test, so the student doesn't learn anything, that is the atheist logic, right? Let's not create a world with hardship. This is why atheism births many degenerate movements, be it feminism, be it veganism even. If you look at vegans, they do not want to accept the world for what it is. They do not believe in God, but they think it's unjust that we are eating animals and moreover they think it's unjust that any animal eats animals. So ultimately, they want to transform this world into a herbivorous planet where the lion eats grass. It's absolutely ridiculous, but moreover it is of course denying reality as the baseline because they have the perception that this reality is wrong. This reality is unjust, but based on what? If you are a Darwinist, if you believe in the theory of evolution. Fantastic, go stick with it, because then you would have to accept that it is survival of the fittest and everything feeds on each other and that would be the perfect justice because it's an ecosystem that functions. That's it, period. And this one's saying as an atheist here, why would you be upset about those consequences? First and foremost, you don't even believe in them. Secondly, why do you judge the suffering around you as something bad? If there is no eternal standard of goodness, there is no standard of evil. You don't have God and the devil, for you everything is relative and therefore the suffering is fantastic as well. If you feel like f***ing somebody tomorrow, you can go out and do it because you have no moral baseline. Question, the teacher has given the question paper. All the students went from the bottom. For that particular situation. For that particular situation, the teacher can tell dear student, change five to four. What will the other students think about? Unjust, but that can be just at the same time. He can create a completely different condition. He doesn't have to go ahead with that situation. He's not bound by any situation. Exactly. That's great Disneyland for the atheist. Almighty God can create something which is perfect and will not make Mr. Correct? That God has already done. He created the angels. God created the angels. The angel never go against any commandment of God, but human being is a better creation than angel. The angels have got no free will of their own. If you have heard my tips, if you have not heard, I'll tell you now, the angels are a creation of Almighty God, but not the best creation. Almighty God created the human beings, the human beings have a free will to go against God or to follow God. If you have chosen to be a human being, if you disobey his commandments, you go to hell. If you obey his commandments, you're superior than the angel because the angel doesn't have a free will of his own. Then he follows God. It's nothing great. The human beings are the better creation of Almighty God. Almighty God has given a free will. That's the different question that Almighty God knows because he has Ilme Geb. He has knowledge of the future. He is more superior. So he has created such a creation which has a free will. The fault is of human being, not God. No, but God has created us with that fault and he knows he can avoid that. Not fault. It's not fault brother. It is free will. Why is he giving us a free will? He knows. It's like saying, hey man, why did you open up that gym? In that gym, there are certain machines and barbells that weigh way too much for me. They're way too heavy to move. Why did you create it that way, man? Couldn't you just create yoga mats and we wouldn't need any dumbbells? It would be so much easier, bro. This is the atheist logic. Do you understand this? Why is their challenge? Why is their adversity? They're essentially not accepting the test for what it is. It's going to eventually put these many people in hell. Why is it doing something? That is a different creation. Would you want to create something which can think on its own? Why would someone so compassionate be scared? Brothers, that's what I tell you. What you want, God has already created an angel. I'm asking you which is better? An angel following Almighty God or a human being following Almighty God? Which is better? For me, absolutely. If I get a second chance, I would want to be an angel. Why would I risk going to hell? Second chance, correct. That's why Almighty God says in Surah Araf, chapter number seven, verse number 172, Almighty God bought all the human beings from the loin of Adam and asked them, if they have one, got all agreed. Almighty God says in Surah Hasha, chapter 59, verse number 21, if Almighty God revealed the Quran on the mountain, the mountain would shut down. Almighty God says in Surah Azab, chapter 33, verse number 172, it is the human being who were fools who said, we want to be human beings. You and I, you and I were fools. Now you get on backtrack. Once you said you want to appear for the test, once you read the test, nobody asked me. That's what you think. That's actually very interesting because in the New Age movement, there is the same perception that we chose this human experience as souls, as beings. We chose this human experience. Now we are here out of the Quranic context. Now we are here for the test. The New Age further claims that we forgot that we made that choice. Now we are here, we are born as a baby and we forget what was prior to this and I would think that Islam agrees with this because we cannot remember our previous state as souls. So brother, Quran says every human being was asked and then it is washed off. There you go. This memory is washed off. It's a memory that was the test. Almighty God says in the Quran, do you want to be a human being? If you become a human being, you can become superior to an angel or can get inferior. If you don't want to become a human being, just pass. That makes absolute sense to use modern day terminology for this yet again. It is as if you would put on a VR goggle. You immerse yourself into a virtual reality. You're playing a game. Ideally you want to forget that you're playing that game. So it appears even more real to you and this test wouldn't be a real test if it wouldn't appear real to us. Even though the Quran states of course that this life is nothing but the enjoyment of delusion. So therefore it states that this world is a delusion. Ultimately it is not real but nevertheless the test itself appears to be real for it to appear to be real. You would have to forget where you came from. That's awesome. You asked the question. If you interject, how will I answer? Sure, go ahead. So Almighty God asked the human beings and the Quran says we human beings were fools. You and I, both. Were fools who opted for the test. Now once you undergo a test, if you follow the commandment after free will you be superior to an angel. If you disobey Allah, you become inferior to an angel. We wanted to pass with distinction. You and I. You and I. You told I don't remember. Of course you will not remember. And even I don't remember. But I believe in the Quran. On the day of judgment Almighty God says not a single human being will object to the justice of Allah. That will come to know on the day of judgment. Only thing we'll say please give us one more chance Almighty God will say it's too late. Because if he wants to give you a new chance even I'll have to come back in the world again. Again everyone. So those who failed, he can't get only the failures. So the Quran says no one will ever object on the justice of Allah. They will request Allah give us one more chance. Almighty God is too late. Almighty God gives us chances in this world itself. You make a mistake. Allah gives you a chance to repent. You repent. Allah forgives you. Again you make a mistake. All the ones you die, it's only one. So as far as the first question is concerned, why did God create? Because it's a better creation. Any logical person including you has to agree that a person who has the free will is a better creation than a person who has no free will. Only a question you don't remember. It's a more complex creation for sure. It depends if you want to judge this as better. The orthologs church fathers for example, they said that ideally they wouldn't like to have a free will because the free will always brings them away from God. So in their worldview, it would be superior to not even have a free will. I personally say it is more complex and by the definition, yes it is better because you actually have the choice. When you are resurrected, that time you and I will meet, then you will say I remember. Even I don't remember now. But I faith in the Quran that Quran cannot be wrong because scientifically if you heard my lecture, 80% of the Quran is 100% matching with sands. 20% is ambiguous. Neither right, neither wrong. So my logic says when 80% is 100% correct and not even 0.1% of the 20% is wrong. So my logic says even this 20% would be right. I'm a scientific person. I'm a logical person. So I believe in the statement of the Quran that we chose. If we wouldn't have chosen, you could have questioned God. Why did you make me a human being? Then God would have been at fault. But God says in the Quran He asked the mountains for food. Everything else for food. We human beings opted for this. But do you remember being asked? I don't remember being asked. He just said no. My answer. Even I don't remember. But if you remember the test, imagine if a teacher teaches you something, teacher teaches you something, teacher gives you the book. The teacher has to take away the book for the test. If the teacher says, okay, take the book and answer. Where is the test? Okay. But what? After the examination is over, you can go home and check or not. But even before the exam began, God knows. He explains it's simple. I guess. After the examination is over, can you go and check home or not in the textbook? Absolutely. But during the examination, can you check? No. So now the examination is going on, brother. Once it's over, you can check. If you tell teacher, teacher, I want to see the textbook. I don't remember. No. During the examination, you cannot refer to the textbook. It will be called cheating. Correct? So once the examination is over, if you don't remember, you tell God, what is this illogical? But Quran says not a single human being will object to the justice. Let the test go to work. So today, I being a scientific person, I being a logical person, based on my knowledge of science, based on my logic, when I read the other scriptures and when I read the Quran, I find Quran is the only book, only religious scripture on the face of the earth which passes this test. So therefore, I being a scientific person, being a logical person, agree, okay, fine. This statement of the Quran also has to be right. I don't remember. That is the test. If I remember, where is the test? So that answers the first part of the question. First part, that saying that God was sadist. God is not sadist. For example, I start a medical college. I want the school students to go to medical. How many students who go to school enter the medical college? Just roughly, can you guess? Few, surely less than 5%. Less than maybe 1%. So why did you make a college where only one person can enter? Fine. It is for selected few. Same way, God made heaven. Why not? It's like a purifying ground. Sorry? Why not? Why can't every, why can't every- Why do you want to go to heaven? You're an atheist. Everyone go to medical college. Because it's human capacity. If humans were capable of being able to put everyone in medical college, they would. That's the way we are made. So same way, everyone cannot become a doctor. Only those who have the capacity. Same way, everyone cannot go to Genesis or the high levels of paradise. We have to strive. God has given you capacity. If you don't follow His guidance, you cannot. If you follow His guidance to go to Jannah, it's very easy. If you're intelligent, it's very easy. If you're intelligent and if you're truthful to yourself. But if you're not truthful to yourself. The atheist basically makes the claim, what if you're not intelligent enough? So therefore you can't even help it to be an atheist or to be something else than a Muslim. What then? Why is it so unjust from the get-go? But ultimately, yet again, I have to repeat, there is no injustice within the atheist world. First and foremost, there is no heaven and hell in the atheist worldview. Moreover, there is no objective standard of right and wrong. And because there is none, heaven or hell is not better or worse. For you, it is all the same. Even a non-intelligent man can go to Jannah. Only thing you should be truthful. God has given you different options how to follow Him. Some people think they are smart. I tell them they are extra smart. If they were smart, they would see it is crystal clear in black and white that this is the word of God. You have to follow it. That's the reason Francis Bacon said, little knowledge of science makes you an atheist. In-depth knowledge of science makes you a believer in God. So I wouldn't say God is sadist. I said we were fools who opted to undergo the test. Not God. God gave you an option. What do you want to be? We chose. So we are responsible. Not God. God is not a sadist. We are fools. That's what the Quran says. On the day of judgment, you will come to know, insha'Allah, you and I both. Insha'Allah, if I go to Jannah, insha'Allah, insha'Allah, I pray to God, I thank God. You know, I was a good person. I choose to be human being. If you pass that, if you fail, then we will cut our own self. Hope that answers the question. The second part? Sorry, what was the second part? That even if I believe how almighty He is, how knowledgeable He is, why is He so bent on convincing us, look at the mountains, look at the electrons, look at the protons. The second part of the question? I don't get the question. As previously, why not? If He created something that's amazing to you and atheists would agree, I assume that mountains and the ocean and the universe is amazing. Why not acknowledge it? Does Almighty God give references of the mountain that He created this? For Him it is peanuts. So why is He talking? You know why He's saying, He's saying these peanut things, mountain, they would shudder. You human being who is superior, why don't you understand? Qur'an says in Surah Hashir chapter 59 verse 21, had the Qur'an been revealed on the mountain, the mountain would have fallen down to utter ruin. But to us human beings, it makes no difference, giving these examples to show that these things which are so powerful, the mountains, etc., which He has created, would have submitted the will. Why don't you human being do? He's trying to give an example that we are fools. He's not trying to praise Himself. And whenever He asks us to praise Him, or when He says, which is Allah Akbar, God is the greatest. Do you think it will change Allah? No. Whether you say a thousand times Allah Akbar or a million times, He cannot become greater. He's already the greatest. The reason we say these things is because it is our human mentality, our human nature, that we follow the people who are famous. We follow the people who we praise, for example. Aside from that, it is not for God as He said correctly. God is already complete. God is already perfect. There is no lack within God. The praise towards God is only to put yourself back into place. So you understand your place. I spoke about this previously. When you look at martial arts, for example, I love martial arts because it humbles you. It brings your ego down and it puts you into place. When you go to Jidzo, for example, you submit a bunch of guys and then some guys submit you. So you are being put back into place, back where you belong. This is extremely important to the human mind. Otherwise, you think you are the greatest and you're never the greatest. God is the greatest. You can experience similar things when you go out in nature and you will experience the jungles, the mountains, the ocean. You are nothing. You are just a speck of dust in comparison to the power of nature that has been created by God, which is eternally powerful. And therefore saying, Allah Huwakbar, in this case, God is greater, is only for your own benefit. To humble you. There is an unknown person on the street who gives you the treatment and you heard that the best heart specialist in the world is Dr. X. Now, will you follow Dr. X's advice or the person on the street who you don't know? Dr. X. Why? Because Dr. X is the same as people know him. He is the best in the world. So the reason in our Salah, in our life, we say Allah Huwakbar, Allah is the greatest, Allah is the most wise, Allah is the most intelligent. Why? If we say that it doesn't benefit Allah, it benefits us. That if we praise him, we follow him. If we follow, we go to Jannah. To Allah, it makes no difference. Therefore Allah says, will you not then believe? Will you not then understand? That means the Qur'an is revealed to the people for understanding. So he is giving this example not to make himself great. He is always the greatest. Whether you say a million times Allah is the greatest, it will not make a difference to Allah. He is telling it to you. Allah says in the Qur'an, Allah does not require you. You require him. So when we praise him, it is human psychology that the person. Allah's existence is not based on anything. He is self-sustainable. You on the other hand, when you're born, you need your mother's breast to be sustained, then you're feeding on your surroundings, on the flora and fauna, if you will. You are in direct need of everything around you and moreover all your surroundings are based upon the pre-existence of God. God on the other hand doesn't have that. To praise a person you talk great about, you tend to follow his advice. By following his advice, it will benefit you. It will not benefit him. He is already the greatest. He is already the merciful. So these are rules and regulations laid down. He is our creator. He knows our mindset. So the reason he speaks about this then, ah, such a person, like you are a student of science, correct? I am also a student of science. The moment I come to know, Allah mentioned these scientific facts which we came to know today, 50 years back and it increases my faith in Allah. Allah says in Surah Fusila chapter 41 verse 53, Sanuri mayatina fellafakhi wa fi anfusim, hatta yathab bain anna ulak. Soon we shall show them our signs in the furthest regions of horizons and into their soul until it is clear to them that this is the truth. So Allah is giving these examples so that it benefits us. For him, it makes no difference. It is benefiting us. So he is giving us a chance to follow him so that we can go to heaven. Hope that answers the question brother. I recognize his power and I understand he's amazing and all that that he's done. But then you're not an atheist. If you recognize his power, you recognize he's amazing, then you're definitely not an atheist man. You're a deist to say the very least. Am I expected to be amazed at his achievements at creating this universe? Because for me, for him, it's like a one-second job. Get it? Right? So for him... Oh man, this guy is so annoying. Yet again, it is for your own benefit, bro. If you don't want to be amazed at anything, then don't be. Be miserable. Sit at home and cry under your pillow. But if you want to accept this gift of life, then accept it and see that it's amazing. Wow, man. Cool. Wow. Yeah. If you're not amazed at his creation because nothing for him, man. Wow. What kind of statement is that? I've seen UFC fights, other sporting events where it seems to be absolutely nothing for the athlete. But it is so great for us to watch that event. That's your answer, man. That it is easy for him, makes the whole thing even more amazing. Because it's hard for you, impossible for you. You are the person who can create the universe when he tells me not to have alcohol. I immediately follow. Sure, I don't mind following him, but do I have to be amazed at his creation? Don't be. Just don't be. See, as you asked me, should I be amazed at the creation? Right. I would say if I believe human being is a better creation, then yes, I'm amazed. And then I say, Alamdulillah. He has made me better than that. So if I'm amazed, he made the mountains, he made the stars, he made the sun. Ah, but he made Zakir Naik also. He made a human being. And we are the best of creation. So he gives us examples so that we realize what benefit he has given to us. All the favor they have given to us. Talking about the sun, talking about the protons, talking about the mountains, finally says human beings are the best creation. So in comparison, we have to agree that our creator has created this human body, the molecules, the DNA, the complex thing, which can never come by chance. So in this way, we are amazed at the creation of the human being. And then we submit to him. If you're not amazed, only by being amazed, we submit that he's our creator. He is worth worshiping. No one else can do that. This is so that that's actually a very crucial part because that's what you see with atheists. He's only looking for critique at the creation not coming from an objective moral standard. He simply cannot accept the creation as is. And because he cannot accept his surrounding as is, he cannot accept God. And therefore he cannot submit to God. We worship him and we pass the test and we go to paradise. Hope that answers the question. If Bill Gates gives me a hundred dollars, should I be amazed that he has given me that money? I believe that the question has been answered. And unfortunately, we are very constricted for time. You are welcome to come back tomorrow into our law as with all of the brothers and sisters. We have come and if he gives you a hundred dollars, yes, you should be grateful. Wow. Basic. If Bill Gates gives you a hundred dollars, will you get amazed? Brother, the question is, why should Bill Gates give you a hundred dollars? If you tell me a Tom Dick and Harry gives you a hundred dollars, nothing to be amazed. Bill Gates gave me a hundred dollars. It's something that he gave you. Why did he give you and somebody else? Why? The question is why did he give you is a question. Okay. If some Tom Dick and Harry gives you, if a man on the street gave you a hundred dollars, Bill Gates. Got it. You got it, no? Got it. I got that. So now you are convinced? Yes, absolutely. That is the answer. So inshallah, I hope that you come closer to Islam. So I should not be amazed at the fact that he's given me the money. I should be amazed as him was giving the money. Alhamdulillah. So it was worth the time extending. Alhamdulillah. All right. And this is it for today's video. Hilarious video to watch. I find that Zakir Naik really handled it well. However, I personally would have given the atheists different answers as I did throughout the video. I would question his belief first and foremost. What is your moral standard? Why do you find this morally incomprehensible for yourself? Why is this morally wrong? What is morals? Where do morals come from if you're not grounding them into something? And further when he asked if you should be amazed, I would tell him, no, you don't have to be amazed. Be simply depressed, suffer. All right, guys. But this is it for today's video. Let me know in the comment section what you guys think about this dialogue. If you liked the video, leave it a thumbs up. If you haven't subscribed already, guys, please do so. We are on the road to 100k subscribers. Thank you so much for your ongoing support. If you want to further support this channel, you can do so via Patreon. For example, all the links are in the description box below. All right, guys. But this is it for today's video. As always, may God bless you all. Much love and peace.