 What's up, guys? Welcome to SPM Buzz. My name is Liz Jackson and this is Buzz. It starts with the one and only Telepak Brahabariya Kukofiti. Kukofreshi. Yeah. Good to see you. I appreciate that. Tumiwa na umekwa Spain for a while na ukwa pa. Are you back officially amu me kujatu kidogo for a few weeks? I can say I'm back officially. Okay. And how is Matina and the babies? Everyone fine? And are they going to come? Wana kujapia, ama? Ya, ya. Kusawa hote. I will bring them soon. So, tu kwa pa tuko eventi akote? Umekuja hasok fanyani. Do you have a close relationship with akote? Not really a close one, but just work-related. Yeah. And how is it that spark, bro? Tuna kujwa ulkuna ishima. Ilikwa kibera? Right. Kibera. In a very good suit. Driving una filaji. Well, I mean, it's not like nili lala anka amuka ewe, you know. It's been about three years of hard work. So, ya. Is that the reason why you are so... Like mituwa kikujwa kukulizi ya, do you like... Ata mimiseti nili amuka nika jipata pa, like work hard? Ya. Actually, I help a lot of people. I just, I am very picky with it. Ya. You don't really expect someone to just... I took it to kwa kumbe bro nili pi rent. And then I just send them and, you know. But mostly we wanna say the... Like watu enyoku kwa very, very tough situations, you know. Situations enyu mostly as in alternatives, you know. Like for me rent, I feel like it has an alternative. If you can't manage your rent, just look for a better or cheaper house. Like an advice that lady, I literally say, there's no shame in going back to your parents. It's only that tukulia muaku twist my words. Ya. But I will do the same. Kama ngekwa na shidi rent. I didn't really come out there too. Bilas to a remake. But I actually do help. I especially singo mazes. Wangekwa na type easy way to you would have been surprised to be honest. Ya. Because for someone who is a single mother that doesn't have school fees for the kids. Akuna alternative. Akuna alternative. So that's where now I come in. But I do a lot of good diligence. I go to the school, I pay school fees. The staff like that. Ya. And you being a dance prenuwa. How has the dance industry been in Kenya? Ulu kwa kama payo. Nia kwa za tukotunona watua kifanya dance for a living ime kwa je? Well, the dance industry, when I started, it wasn't so good. But for me, I put in the work and they showed a lot of people that you can actually make money through dance. Nani kwa motivate a lot of people. I'm glad that it's picking up. Ya. When you were in Spain, how were you able to handle it? Ulu kwa na other dance classes going on on Spain? Ya. I had a lot of work in Spain because I was teaching in about four or five schools. Including dance studios and like school schools. Na, they pay well. That's the thing. Like they appreciate art to be honest. Ya. What do you think is different in the dance industry in Spain compared Spain and Kenya? What is different? Well, I can talk much about Spain because it wasn't like in the whole of Spain. But the only difference I can say is that art has more value in Spain than in Kenya. Like here you tell someone, someone at a kujaku akumbe and toko fanyekazi. But then they will start arguing with the rate saying that it's too high because you'll be dancing for like three minutes. But in real sense, it has taken me seven years to be able to dance in those three minutes. Ya. So in Europe in general, they do appreciate that. Ya. They take dance as a career. Ya. Here mainly, I don't know if I can say it. Me na kufanya waka waka ruka ruka. Ya. And when you told your mum that you're going to be doing dances and living, receptionili kwaji? Me nili kwa kichungumu tango kitambo. So I don't know if I can say it. But my mum literally trusted in me all the time. So I didn't really say it. Because I was actually in university. So I was doing computer science for the second year. But I didn't know much. She does cool things. I was straight and have two guys on the corner. Isomia kambiles me baki. I think I can do something different. Ya. And how has your wife been instrumental in your career? Well, I don't know. She has played a very big part. Very, very big part. One of the things I can attribute to her is her backup. So with her being behind me, I had the power to set my value and stick with it. Kini tia shuwa taw, sasange kata. Nkwa nbi aabuda tawiyuezi. Tawiyuezi. Kwa sababu. Ili time nili kwa solo. Sina backup ya ni. Yota on kiki kata, I'm brisking a lot. Because yota hondu rentia angu sas. But sasatiki kia wili. Nkwa na. In case ni seime, yota hositu kuya lafu artista katae, kana zani akole ya maali. Ya. And you being a young person and a very successful person, let me say that. How have you been able to keep yourself grounded? Raja truna nga vidya nawa, me putea juya madawa. How is Pakbro still rooted? Neshida. Neshida na juya ku guide munt. I was born without anything, so I don't have the luxury kumesa round nakidogo enye na me manage ku get. And also I've done a lot to be where I am. Mepi gason, but only a stupid person ata cheza cheza na asol kaiyo. I work a lot. Trust me. Kuna sayengia na se ma gaudia mani pesa ham zungu. If I put them in my shoes, I'm sure. Miki mojia. Raka misha kata yo kaz. Alright. Thank you so much for talking to us. We appreciate. Guys, that was Buzz. It starts with Tile Pakbro. Make sure you like, share, subscribe to his channel. Jipla Gavo. Well, Tile Pakbro, basically, I am among the most subscribed to dances in Africa, so it will be so easy for you to find me. Cheers. See you on the next.