 Hello everyone and welcome to the second day of Elfmas. Oh, this is very exciting. We have a full house and we're we're missing. There we go. Now we have a full house. We've got lots of people joining us today. This is so exciting. So we've got my fellow lead Kathy down there and Christine, but we also have we've got two other elves. So we've got John and Jeffrey and Maria at the end there. Is there a Wisher? So we're going to be revealing her wish live here on WikiTree. So on the WikiTree YouTube. So welcome to everyone. This is great. This is the second day of Elfmas. So if you're new to WikiTree, WikiTree is a free genealogy website where genealogists collaborate and you can work on your family tree. We have a single family tree and we work together to share and help each other out. And so during these two weeks, we have a secret Santa challenge going on and various WikiTrees volunteer to be elves and to solve wishes for other WikiTrees. And that's what we're going to be showcasing one of those each day. And so today we're showcasing one just up the top. I'll remind you at the end, but tomorrow for Thursday and Friday because one of the elves that we are working with is over in Germany. And so we're going to actually start a little bit later. We're going to start at 3pm. That time works better for him. So the Elfcast tomorrow and Friday will both be at 3pm Eastern time or 8pm UTC time. But for today, what are we going to do? It's the second day of Elfmas. So on the second day of Elfmas, some elves gave to me two British husbands. So that's the theme. So let me just share with you. And Maria, since Maria's here, the one who did the actual wishing, I'll get her to read her wish to Santa. Yes, dear Santa's elves, I wish I could have some help to add one or both of Francis' British husbands. I'm not learned enough about British records today to do it. Good news. Excellent. Thank you, Maria. So two British husbands and we have two elves that help solve that. So I'm going to turn it over. So first of all, I'm going to share my screen and they're going to just let me know when to move things around. And so you won't have to listen to me talk too much. But here is Francis Maria Eckberg. And how is she related to you, Maria? Maria? Yeah, she's my great grandfather's first cousin, I think. You think? Okay. Her father, he was born in Sweden and he sailed to the UK and got married to a Scottish woman and they only had one child, Francis Maria. And I have been in contact with her friend, your great-grandchildren and I'm going to find out how to do that. Okay. So here's Francis Maria and she has, now there's two profiles for her husband. So Jeffrey. Oh, okay. I have just lost power here. Can you still hear me? Yeah. Can you hear me, folks? Yes. Yes. Okay. The power just went out. And my router will stay live for about 10 minutes or so. So let's us, wait a second here. I'm going to find the screen that I'm going to share. And there we go. That's not it. There. Can you see Francis's profile page? Yep. Yes. Okay. Now, because I'm restricted to a single monitor, I cannot see you. So you're going to have to talk me through. So I'm going to switch to Walter's. And Jeffrey, are you there? Is Jeffrey there? No. I think we lost him. We lost him. Okay. Let me see. There we go. Let him add him back to the stage. There we go. Hi. Sorry about that. My red page refreshed. Okay. Okay. I put Jeffrey back on the stage and there's Walter. Okay. Okay. Go for it. Jeffrey, talk to us about Walter. So Walter was an interesting chap. I was super happy that Maria put her request in. I'm part of the Nordic project with her and was like, I can do this. I can help. So looking for Walter, I found his birth registration in the Thetford District of Norfolk in the September quarter of 1886. I do have an exact date of birth because I actually You've gone mute there, Jeffrey. Can other people hear him? No. You hear me? Yes. Now we can. Yep. Now he's gone. And now he's gone. Let me see. Oh, he's gone. Gone. Okay. Okay. Okay. I don't know if Aowyn, if you're still in the chat or Betsy, if you want to join, in case I lose power completely and that way you can keep the live cast going if we Okay. Clearly having some issues today. I apologize. Well, so it's not just me who's having technical difficulties. Look how dark it's gotten all of a sudden here. Oh, Betsy's coming to the rescue. Betsy. Okay. Oh, and we might have power again. Who knows? May the lights shine upon you, Greg. You may the lights shine upon me. Okay then. Go for it, Jeff. Jeffrey. Okay. Oh, no. Right now I think Jeffrey is muted. Yeah. I think you're still, okay. You're facing the right way up with you. Okay. Talk now. Can we hear Jeffrey? Oh, and he's gone again. Okay. Maybe. Well, okay. John, how about you take, I'm going to switch to the second husband. And then you can take over and I'll go back to, I'll go back to Jeffrey once we have that solid. Okay. Oh, here's Betsy. There's Betsy. Oh, thanks, Betsy. Sure. No problem. We briefly have some, some power, but who knows how long, if it'll stay or not. So we needed, I'm glad you joined. So you can take over and pinch host. I will be plan B happily. Plan B. Okay. John, why don't you talk to us about the second husband that you found, William Thomas Kalitman, I believe. Yeah. So first thing I did was I went to Scotland's people to look for the marriage and Scottish records are quite a bit more detailed than England or Wales. The marriage certificate shows both sets of parents. So from the marriage certificate, it says that William, they were married at Brady United Free Church Morningside on August in Edinburgh. And William lived at 124 Hoppers Road, London, and he was an engineer's draftsman. It lists his parents as William Clayton, an electrical engineer, and Dora Clayton, MS Burgess, who was deceased. So from that, I checked the 1921 census on Find My Past, and that lists him living with, he was a border living with Arthur Henry Monroe at the said 124 Hoppers Road in London. And that gives his age as 31, and it also gives the months of age that he was. So from that, we could estimate that he was born about October 18 1890, and or maybe even 1889. From that, I did a search on Ancestry and found that there was a William Thomas Clayton that was born in October 1889 in Islington. However, the baptism certificate says he was born 19th of October 1890, but he was baptized a few months before in July. So I reckon that was probably a clerical error of his birth date, and it meant 1889, not 1890. And from that, I was able to add his parents as well. Nice. That's great. So and also found his death as well, listing, I believe, his son-in-law, Raymond Franklin, who married William's daughter, I believe. Yep. Very nice. Good work. Thank you very much, John. It's also interesting because I've been working past that church and mourning side Edinburgh many, many times. Really? Yep. That is so cool when you know something pops up in a historical record, and it's a place you know about, and you didn't realize the significance before. That's very cool. Nice. Okay, and there's Jeffrey. Okay, Jeffrey, we're going to try this again. How are you doing, Jeffrey? Are you there? Can you hear us? I'm going to switch back to Walter. He's gone again. He's gone again. Oh, no. This is very sad. Okay. Well, what I can do is I can share what I know. So if he comes back, Betsy, can you let him in to the room, and then he can just, he can just pop in. So the first husband, the first husband, Frances Marie Eckbert, this is sort of a bit of a sad tale. So he was the son of William Wag and his wife, Mary Kettle, born around 1886. And just like the second husband where we know that I just let him in, Greg. Oh, good. Okay. Excellent. So where are you, Jeffrey? I don't know. He's out. He's lost. He let him in, but he disappeared right away. He disappeared. Well, what I can tell you is, so this is a, like this, this is actually pretty cool because we've got such a huge cast of characters today for the, for the Elf cast. Maria is from Sweden, made the wish from Sweden. John helped her out and he's in Ireland right now. Jeffrey actually is close by. He's in Illinois. And now he works, he's working, he's volunteering in a library right now. So maybe the library, Wi-Fi is what's letting him down and is bumping him out. He's just connecting on an iPad. So it was working fine up until we started the Elf cast and then, then things sort of got a little hairy. Well, I keep adding him and he appears, I'm adding him. There he is at the bottom of the screen. But let's see if he stays. Then he goes sideways. It goes sideways. And then he goes poof. Okay. And there he goes poof. Okay. Well, we really appreciate Jeffrey's work. So we found, he found his birth record, or the, the actual registration was on the 22nd of June. The birth, or the birth was 22nd June. He was registered on the 27th. He married Frances, or Francesca Marie Eckberg, in September of 1917. And their marriage was registered in Clithero in Lancashire. He joined the Royal Fusiliers as a private and served in France during the Great War. So that would be World War One. Sadly, though, shortly after he was married, after he was, he was killed in action. He died in France and is commemorated on the Arraspe Memorial in Pado Calais in France. The memorial in the St. Mary, the lesser churchyard in Thetford. And his estate was, went into probate on Christmas Eve in 1918. So Jeffrey was able to add this nice sticker for Lance Corporal Walter Wag, who served in the British Army of the World War One. So the first husband, very sad, very sad. Yes. According to Frances, great-grandchildren, she actually had a baby with Walter Wag that died as an infant. Oh. Yeah. Oh, that's very sad. Wow. That just makes it even more heartbreaking. And, Jeffrey, you're back again. I don't know if you can, before you disappear, I don't know if you heard Maria said that the family had passed down. Thank you, Jeffrey, before you get lost. Oh, I was going to ask if he found any evidence of the child in his discoveries, but if there was a birth record for that, too. But anyways, that's a sad piece to add to that. But anyways, there you go, two British husbands. Maria? Yes, it was really, really nice. Thank you very much. You're welcome. Well, I'm so glad we were able to, well, we survived this. Thank you, Betsy, for coming in to help. Just in case, you know, the power is usually pretty stable here. I mean, it's, the snow has melted. It is mild, so I don't know why. It's not like we're in a blizzard or anything, why I would have lost power. But anyways, thank you, everyone, who came out. Thank you for Al's, John, and Jeffrey for helping out. Tomorrow we have a German Elf who's going to come and share what he's done for the third day of Elfmas. So join us at 3pm Eastern Time, 8pm UTC. I guess that's 12 noon Pacific for you, Cathy. And anyways, check out all the other times in between. I think I adjusted the time correctly, so YouTube should now know the proper time, I hope. But if I haven't done it right, then AON will fix it for me. Thanks, AON. And have a great day, and we'll see you tomorrow for the third day of Elfmas. See you later. Bye. Thanks, everyone. Bye.