 You're welcome back. Right now we're taking what is making the headlines in our dailies. We'll start with Dailetros where we have this report that Nigerian Airlines seek more slots. Saudi carrier takes 40%. That means indigenous carriers are taking just 60%. And then we have 70% of NNPC's AKK gas pipeline delivered projects not abandoned, according to Kiari. Fresh intrigues as not West insists on Senate presidency. And then Tinobu Returns says I'm ready for the task ahead. Okay, we also have other smaller stories. One of them is Ben Weyman buried alive over witchcraft. This story by some other newspapers is carried as two Ben Weyman buried alive over witchcraft. Election Tribunal Falano orders back live broadcasts and then two Chibok girls escape from Boko Haram captivity after nine years. That's for the Dailetros. All right, we're moving on now to the next newspaper which I believe is the Vanguard. The Vanguard newspaper leads with Sean Rumors, I'm Strong. And that's the president-elect Tinobu on his arrival yesterday. Sean Rumors, I'm Strong. Tinobu says an arrival from France. Right there you can see the picture of the president-elect. You can also find the picture of Shatima, his running mate, a vice presidential running mate. And then you have smaller headlines, three killed as Beggy, how to use Clash in Abuja. Abducted, Kegi, Kogi, Mona dies in Kidnapper's Den. You'll find that on page six. Again, caught dashes, Nigeria's airs hope of flying, that you'll find on page nine. And on top you find a rider, CBN defense forex ban on stockfish in portation. And to the main story, one of the hottest stories today, Sudan, evacuation of over 2,000 Nigerians begins today. That is quite interesting because that is one story that many Nigerians are interested in today. The evacuation of Nigerians from Sudan, AP6FGs, not to elite stranded Nigerians. I think that's the much we can take from Vanguard this morning. Okay, we'll move on to Daily Independent. AON orders move to block AOC issuance to Nigeria air. We also have gunman Kidna Bielsa rep at NPC. Then there is a story about 1.1 billion dollars expended so far on AKK gas pipeline project that is by the NNPC. That's what they said. Muslims in Oka, Eulogizo B, say allegations against him are false. NIMET tackles NLSRC over unauthorized lightning advisory. We got that yesterday that they said that lightning will be so much in May. One day several injured as Abuja natives and Hausa clash. Population commission assures Nigerians of server and data safety. Then there is the story of the president elect saying, forget rumor mill. I'm strong and poised for the tax ahead. That is Tino Buu. And then our president, President Mohammed Buhari to attend Gulf of Guinea summit in Accra today. We also have other smaller headlines about, smaller headlines but very sensitive stories and very important stories. Air peace to evacuate stranded Nigerians for free from war town Sudan. And we have missing 149 million barrels of crude oil. Independent enquiries says Buhari can't prove self. Okay. Those are some of the headlines on the daily independence today. And we're so grateful to have joining us right now. Chris kind day. One do a chartered arbitrator with the UK, but he's here right now in Lagos and talking with us. Good morning and welcome to the program. Mr. Wando. Thank you very much. The UK chartered arbitrator UK chartered arbitrator. Okay. Okay. So Chris, let's begin with the story that in on the lips of all Nigerians and that's Sudan evacuation of Nigerian citizens stranded there. What do you make of the fact that there is some sort of on unsteady ceasefire, which has been a great three days, I think, the US Secretary of State Anthony Blinken mediated and the wiring factions have agreed to a three days ceasefire so that countries can move their people out. Let's have your take on that. First and foremost, it's so nice to see an astute broadcaster in Meno. Meno is so nice to see you again. It is so good to see you again, Chris. See you on television once again. So nice. Yes. Yes. The ceasefire announced by the United States three days ceasefire in Sudan will effectively come into place from today. But some of us are skeptical about that ceasefire because there have been some in the past that have been ignored by the war impact is in the in Sudan, the RRS response towards and the military. Don't forget that there was a ceasefire that was agreed just before the eight feature celebration just to coincide with the end of Ramadan by Muslims. And they agreed on that. But that did not work. That was fighting not true. And killings continued as of yesterday. Over 500 people are killed. Thousands and thousands of people rendered homeless. Everybody's coming to find that we're out of cartoon. We are fighting seems to be more intense. But the United States Secretary of State came at this morning to say that there have been a consolidated ceasefire, three days ceasefire that have been agreed by the war impact is broken by the United States. And that we hope that this will be the beginning of the end of that company so that people can have the opportunity of those who want to live. We live second to that is our second lecture that is that the Nigerian government said that a question of Niger students and Nigerians living in Sudan was convinced today that has been the law. Most Nigerians were stranded in Sudan and they cannot find their way out. While other countries are evacuating, we are dealing as usual just as we did when the Ukraine-Russia war started. But now they said they are going to be evacuated and it's going to be by road because there's no flight in and out of cartoon. The nearest we can get out of cartoon by Stroudafou, which is far from cartoon. So it's that Nigerians should be evacuated. Let's see how that goes. But to me, this should be a lesson for Nigerians, Nigerian government. We cannot wait every time this gets into a situation we cannot be able to evacuate our cities. We should be able to be very proactive like other countries are doing when and where necessary. We hope to have a chieftain of Nema join us later on to tell us more about what is happening. But I'd like to just have some insight from you as a legal-minded person. Nigerian government said that they needed to seek permission from the authorities in that country in Sudan before they can do the evacuation and all that. And in a case like this where there are two warring factions, both of them government, is that even something that is obtainable that you need to go and talk to? Who are you even talking to? Is it the faction A or faction B that you're talking to? Is this the procedure that needs to be followed in conflicts like this for future references, please? As a graduate of law and also of international relations, yeah, there are bilateral relations between countries when it comes to diplomacy. But when it comes to war, it is very difficult for you to be able to start evaluating and sticking to that bilateral issues. Because, as you rightly mentioned, there are two warring factions in Sudan currently, the RRS and also the government too. And you rightly asked, who are you going to wait for? Or who are you going to talk to? Is it the ones that the only government or the RRS who are fighting your job? Of course, when it comes to war, there is no friendship, nobody knows any nationality. The basic thing is that you need to do all you can whatever miss it takes to be able to evacuate. But here, there will be some level of diplomacy, diplomatic talk with the government in place. There is only one government in place for now. That is one of the worry factor. But don't forget that also the leader of the RRS is also supposed to be the Deputy Prime Minister of Sudan. So it is a chaotic situation that to me, the statement issued by the Minister of Foreign Affairs doesn't make sense to me. The biggest thing is that let us look for ways. Others have to be evacuating their cities. How have they been talking to government and the rest of them? What actually we are looking at is, you know, in the past we have always taken the lead when it comes to issues like this, especially within West African-African because as the so-called big brother, what we normally do, we go in, pick up our cities and even help other West African countries to pick their cities and bring them to Nigeria for where they pick them up. But now we are playing the second level. When you play a match and you have, you play your second level, the second level players, then you don't get the best out of that. So for me, without talking to the government or talking to any person, what other thing is that? The Nigeria government should do what it needs to do to evacuate its citizens. I know the foreign ministry need to come or name them. Whatever is going to take Nigeria to evacuate its citizens, let us do that so that our people don't continue to get killed in that country. Yeah, before we drop this subject, isn't it instructive that APEAS is asking for a nod from the federal government to lift the stranded Nigerians from that area? Yes, definitely APEAS will have to ask because it's the state, we're talking about bilateral relationship. APEAS can not just fly out of Nigeria and start heading to any country without that kind of synergy between the Nigerian APEAS and foreign APEAS. Don't forget that it's not going to Sudan. APEAS is not going to fly to Sudan. It's going to either fly to Ethiopia, Egypt or one of these members including, it could also be Southern Sudan. It's not going to Sudan. So there must be the level of contact with the government and that government of that country so that we can have access to their airspace. Access to the airspace is very key and it's going to be within the government agencies to be able to do that. And was that it? It has happened before, it happened to South Africa, it did it to South Africa. It did it where it's in there. I think it needs to be there. Yeah, to think that it's APEAS again, Chris, to think that it's APEAS again and not any other airlines, not individuals coming with their jets to say, okay, I'm going to do this for the citizens of the country. APEAS again. Does that strike a chord to you? Others are living in poverty. APEAS, the chairman of APEAS, had this one, and therefore that was why he was given a National Honour last year. He was given a National Honour by the President of the Federal Republic of Nepal for what he has been doing and continue to do. So I don't know what advice is wrong with all that, but it has always been APEAS and we must commend him for it. He says he's ready to equip a great Nigerian, but it is not his duty to move Nigerians out of Sudan. It is for Nigerians to move Nigerians out of Sudan to a safe place where they can safely pick them up and bring them home. Okay, let's just follow this up with the story that Nigerian airlines seek more slots. A Saudi carrier takes 40%. Now there are six carriers in Nigeria that are sharing the remaining percent of flights that should be taken. And now we have our own Nigerian airline volunteering all the time to go get the people free of charge and all that. Then there's something that has come up, which is juicy, and the whole of Nigerian airlines will share 60%. When only Saudi Arabia will take 40%. What are your thoughts on that? The story on the daily process, Nigerian airlines seek more slots as Saudi takes over 40%. Yes, that is for hard movements. It's for hard movements. Yeah. And they should be able to have more bites of the cake. And rightly so too, because now if you are giving Saudi airlines about 60% of the lifting of Nigerians from Nigerian to make out on a dinner for hard, then that is not equity, as we say in law. But look at it also from the point that do we have the capacity to be able to do this? Because of instances in the past where Nigerian airlines have participated in hard operations and they conquered it. But that is not enough to allow them to be able to have bites. The problem I have is that we have always been having this issue. And it's both governmental and personal. If you know the problem between us and United Arab Emirates, Dubai, with the number of flights that have come from Dubai every day to Nigeria, out of Nigeria, and the number of flights given to Nigerian airlines, especially in this same airpiece, that they were not going to give airpiece enough routes to be able to fly into. And our Nigerian government was trying to be able to broker their peace. But I think that was a breakdown. But we should be able to need this in the court. And that is why personally, I don't know what the very point is. I think that there's need for us to be able to have a second look at Nigeria, whichever will look at it. It is nice and appropriate for us to have our own domestic air light. In the 70s and 80s, Nigeria had biggest air light in whole of Africa. Now Ethiopia is taking the lead. Now you ask yourself what happened. It's corruption and also the way we manage our own system. Now, if you are looking like, even if you were talking about Dubai, look at the Nigeria, the Nigerian London routes. You will see that they are hardly in Nigeria like going into the UK presently. And you see the number of British airways flights coming to Nigeria, all that airlines coming to Nigeria and making so much money. Look at the US-New York route. It is only US airlines or even foreign airlines from various countries that come to Nigeria pick up Nigerians through their own countries and go to the United States. These are very, very rich routes that we should look at. So within our aviation industry, our aviation industry and authority should be looking at opening up more routes. And that is what I comment on this once again. APC is going to China, APC is going to India, APC is going to Dubai, APC is going to some other West African countries. Then we have so much, depending on oil, oil, oil every time as our only source of foreign exchange is not enough, which may be to open up the immigration sector so that we can have enough participants from Nigeria so that they can be able to assess this international route as well and make more foreign exchange. You can see how much our foreign airlines in Nigeria which left to emirate, dump in Nigeria for several times, several times they come because they can't remit it. Most foreign airlines are having money because they cannot remit the money they make from Nigeria. So we should be looking at this bilateral relationship in the aviation sector so that we can be able to capture some of this juicy route as it were so that our airline can make Nigeria can make so much money. We are not doing that as it is present. Alright Chris, let's move over to a story that's all of the newspapers. In fact, Gracie and all the front pages talk about the return of the president-elect Ashwajib Bola to Nubu Ahmed and he says we should despair rumors of ill health he is ready to serve. What do you make of his return and all the rumors that surrounded his health? Yeah, we welcome Emilo Khan. So Emilo Khan is in according to Yoruba. So Emilo Khan has believed that he has many needs to go before he can take over. So all Nigerians are waiting for the smooth handling of her. He has neglected the president of Nigeria. Would I like it or not? Well, that is what it is. A service removed by the tribune traveling out on the call. He remains the president-elect and called on June 29th, 2023. He's going to take over the world in cuts and cases go on. He says he's held him, we believe him and we pray for good health. But there are so many promises he has made to Nigerians. Nigeria is at the crossroads. We are at the lowest point we can be. In the past eight years, Nigerians have suffered a lot and I hope that we will meet Nigerians beyond where we are present. This was how we had so many promises in 2015. Buhari came and gave us so much hope and made so many promises only point to the 9 billion such promises in the long run. But good enough, it doesn't mean it's coming to an end. On May 28th, he signed it out on May 29th. But it's good to see the president back. I bet we proved that. Just as I've told us that he's held, we don't want a situation that we found ourselves in 2015 and a better part of 2016, 2017, where the president was particularly living abroad, going to London, practically brought that way to take care of his health. That in itself affected a lot of things in terms of governance. We hope that this president will hit the ground running. Good enough, the new electorate art and the new law that was signed by the president recently has given a time frame for the president and his ministers. Unlike what happened in 2015, we are worrying for over six months to the name his minister. We're going to go back and pray for the best of health for him. Let me cramp three things into one and see if you can rush them off the cover, Chris. Now, Nimit has tackled another agency of government that gave an advisory yesterday that in May there's going to be a lot of thunderstorms, a lot of lightning, rather, and people should be wary of that. And Nimit is coming out to, according to the story here, tackles NLSRC, over-honorized lightning advisory. And it brings to the fore the fact that agencies of government don't seem to be in sync when they are doing things. The announcement from one place, tomorrow the other person debunks it and all that. And then there is this story that one person is dead, even though some papers carry more than one. Several injured as Abuja natives and Hausa clash. Somebody has likened these to a bomb waiting to explode. And he said that this crisis is like the Niger Delta. Something will erupt someday very soon. And then population commission, people are just looking at them and saying, is it possible that we are really going to have these sensors or not? But they have assured us that Nigerians should know that the server and the data, they are both safe. So everybody should not worry about that comment, lightly on these three, if you may, or choose one to run some public. We have three questions in one. If not, don't do that. Take one case. I'm not a lawyer. I'm not a lawyer. But we are wrapping up. We are wrapping up. But I can run it within a minute. I can run. Okay. Now on the issue of advisory issue on lightning, whether or not lightning is already happening. That was raining. They got two days ago. And I saw the never-on-light. So that's what happened in Venice State. Two days ago, two people were buried alive. And if you read that story, it has to do with lightning. There was lightning in that community. And so people grabbed two people and said that their witches or witchcraft, they were behind that lightning. And they were buried alive. Two of them were buried alive in Venice State. Before police could come, they were dead. So that is the issue. So there's going to be advisory because there will always be rain. During rain, there's going to be thunder. There's going to be lightning. So from whatever agency it comes from, I think that advisory is okay. I don't know what the problem is. Other agencies have put that. Then coming to the issue of population. Yes, the data is fine. Not that we happen to read and like that. You also realize that even lightning has showed us more than that. And when it went to trelation, we saw what happened. So that has, that is an asset where I want to believe them. We are going to censor. But don't forget that since 1960, we have never agreed on any censor. It's always been suited. Someone first believed that there's always magic, magic, magic, and magma go in our way of censoring and also counting. But I also hope that the level of apartheid that came with this last election, which has made some people feel that they're not wanted in certain places and decided to go to their own state or own town to be counted, should be avoided. Still where you are, we believe it to be counted because that is what has been used in the years to come. Okay. Well, sorry. We didn't break the law. We are not loyalists. We'll take one. But I'm glad. I don't have this as well. Oh, he is a citizen. Yeah. So thank you very much, Chris, Karen Dewandu, for coming on the program. It's very great to have you and you really gave us insight to it. And we are very grateful for that. Chris, Karen Dewandu, thoroughbred and seasoned analysts. Great to have you join us today. It's been a long time since I saw you on TV last. So good to have you. Man, not nice to you once again. Have a wonderful day. You too. Thank you. Okay. So we'll take a short break. Now, when we return, we'll be looking at our major topics for the day. Stay with us.