 Hello everybody. Welcome to this awesome round table with two of the most beautiful women on the internet the lovely Medina and the lovely Catherine I've said it before I know people get mad at me when I say this but All of the women on this side of the board to me are just absolutely stunningly gorgeous And I think it's because we're all just in the light And so I am so honored to be here with my two friends Medina and Catherine Obviously, we're rapper. I always forget I mean, I know we're in different countries because we have to coordinate time zones but at this point I feel like this Situation we're in it's it's so like We're all globally kind of together. So it doesn't even feel like we're really divided by nations anymore It's just you know, good versus evil, you know, so so we go but we have Catherine in England Obviously, it's very late over there. It's four o'clock in the afternoon here on the east coast And of course we have Medina over in Australia where it's all she's time travels. She's in a whole new day right now Our time traveler so and Medina I was telling Catherine this just to start off on some humor before we get started Before you jump jumped on now Catherine I have spoken about off-camera in our life Before YouTube and Catherine still does this and I still do this occasionally in the jobs We did we never wore makeup Catherine's outside a lot. I'm in hot sweaty yoga shawls So putting on makeup every day to be on YouTube was something new for me And I had found this eyeliner that I really really liked and it's a really light You can kind of see it's a light brown eyeliner and for the last few days I've been searching for this eyeliner because I'm about to run out of it And I finally picked it up to see if I could find the brand and it turns out it's a lip liner I've been putting a lip liner on my eyes So just a little humor to start off You can't laugh at yourself and who can you laugh at so so anyway How are you ladies doing? Well, I've been as you both know, that's why I haven't connected with you I've missed this of last two things because I've not been very well and the whole family haven't been very well And it's weird. It's one of the things I wanted to talk to at Jake's It's really interesting to see people's perspectives to that and how people react to it and everything It's quite hysterical really So yes, I'm looking a bit faster. I've got a bit of a temperature still But I'm really good at myself and I've really enjoyed having a break from everything over Christmas Not that I don't love it, but it's been really nice I've sort of had a very electronic free Christmas and I think that's really done me a lot of good actually. Yeah Yeah, I find that um the the energy like that the last 14 days There's been all these portals opening of high vibrational energy coming through and and that's been huge so we've all been integrating that and That that could also be Catherine maybe Shifting some of the old stuff out to make way for that for the new energies. So I feel that We're all going through a very intensive integration at the minute and recalibration of our energy and and that can present as all sorts of symptoms and You know headaches or being tired or whatever So just really listening to your body at the moment and honouring your body and Communicating with your body about what it needs and what it wants in order to get through this some energetic shift that we're going through And I think Catherine did you freeze? Can you hear us? Let me text her quickly. Oh Hopefully she'll pop back on. Let me see Your quick text. No, I love that Medina because we talk about that a lot in traditional yoga about Hold on. Let me just text her quickly Well, yeah, it's very much a thing that people are intuitively feeling and then they might be sort of thinking Oh, you know, there's something wrong with me or whatever, but it but it's not, you know That and then on top of the individual feelings that you're feeling you're getting their collective global Energy of it as well. So everyone's collectively trying to you know integrate it And so they're they're sort of releasing stuff Yeah, you're releasing stuff. So you have to tell me don't know what's yours and what someone else is anyway Exactly. No, we the three karmas. We're all working with that we talked about and again karma guys Really if you just break it down karma is just action and reaction. It's your work It's the work that you have to get through in this life and we all have three karmas One is your own personal karma, you know the from past lives you believe in that this life Another is your DNA your karma from your ancestors because that is a part of your DNA and then also the collective Consciousness so whatever timeline you're in you're dealing with that You can't separate yourself from everybody else You're all going through that thing together and what's great. What great a time to see that then right now We're literally shifting everything and you know my teacher in India used to get really excited I've talked about this on my channel before when you would get the yoga fever Like when you would get a fever because it meant that your body was destroying old patterns The fire of your body was breaking down old patterns to bring in new ones And we have this weird especially in the West this weird kind of fear of sickness You know because a minute you get a fever you're encouraged by the obviously by the pharmaceutical Corporations to take a panel which brings it down and allows you not to work through that spiritual shift so that you can evolve so it actually prevents and Sort of puts a barricade against you moving forward on your spiritual journey Isn't that I find that so fascinating especially where we are right now I mean even viruses and stuff that we and when I was a kid we got the chicken pox There was no you know for the chicken pox and I was telling the story the other day my mother I I have a memory I was probably in like the first grade So what seven years old and I remember my mother going on like a scavenger hunt to find a kid in my class Who had the chicken pox so that I would go play with that kid And it's a chicken pox and then give it to my partner as well He was encouraged to go and play with the kids that all have the chicken pox as well So that they could actually build immunity within their system. Yeah, and that's so that is that was where as kids We came from and I know that when I was born in 1983 So I know that I was like the last generation to only get a few of That after it started doubling and doubling and doubling you guys don't we're talking about So I feel like my generation was one of the last to actually have that real true Initiation into human being a human and having your DNA develop Because you know, I mean my grandfather was a surgeon and he used to tell my mother to let me go get dirty Let me put mud in my mouth and play in the mud. That's right. Oh, I mean, that's so important for kids today And and of course, there's so much on that on the technology that that they they find it quite alien sometimes to just get dirty I know I know it's you know, and there's that funny story from the Hindu text of Krishna who the Christ for the hint that in the Bhagavad Gita when their avatars when he was a child He was a Govinda and there's that story of you know Govinda putting mud in his mouth as kids do and animals do it too It's part of learning and the mother comes to like take the mud out of his mouth And she sees the whole universe inside but even in the Hindu text they're talking about allowing You know the human body to be activated allowing the nervous system to be activated allowing the immune system to be activated in order to change and shift and so, you know, the more it's like once you see you can't unsee it Like you realize What's been done to us to try to keep us at this lower vibrational frequency instead of allowing our DNA to grow into what it what it Should be the consciousness I couldn't say it better my one of my favorite books that I've ever read is biography of a yogi, you know, you're gonna It's so incredible like it just makes you want to go straight to India I Had to ask a question when you read the book, did you have visions of him? Did he come to you? Yes, yes, and not I couldn't physically See him per se, but I could feel the energy and I I felt a lot of Sort of things happening that were very metaphysical, you know after reading the book Oh, yeah Spiritual shifts and an energy and all that sort of thing. Yeah Catherine just texts and said her mother had switched off the internet. So she's gonna come back on soon So, oh here she is good. No, I I I definitely um, yeah, that happens when you read the autobiography of a yogi Many people will have an experience with yoga Nanda. So so that's why I had to ask Hello My mom's house and she forgot I was doing the video and she switched the internet off for the night When you guys read your parents house do you revert back to being like 16 again? You've just cut off my video Oh Anyway, carry on ladies I'm back with you You know we were talking about the importance of you have been sick about that being sick and allowing your body to kind of flush out These patterns and how we've kind of been taught that Especially of late that being sick is wrong and I was saying in the east like my my teacher in India It gets very excited when you get the yoga fever That your body is actually reacting to the work you're doing in order to burn away You think about nature like forest fires like real forest fires not You guys don't we're talking about but the real ones nature will do that to itself to cleanse itself And that's what our human body does too and I was saying Catherine like when I was a kid with a chicken pox my mother Went on a scavenger hunt to find a kid in my class who had had the chicken pox So that I would go play with him and get the chicken pox and it's just it's amazing It's such a short amount of time how that Perception has shifted to now. It's like we're not allowed to to get sick You know lost knowledge. I think you know that we that has been sort of hidden from us and lost And we need to tap into all those natural ways, you know and that includes all you know the herbs and everything to To naturally tap into that to fix this a solution for absolutely everything and often in nature. They're together like you'll find it Something that poisons you and then next to that will be something that Detox is that or you know, and they're often together in nature. So we just need to go back to those roots Our ancestors knew how to do it didn't they? Yeah, well, I'm a herbalist and I work exactly with animals and humans But with something self-medication and it's amazing when you look at it And don't you think it's a real reflection of where we're at where there's whole mentality of wanting to suppress everything And it's like it's really important to cleanse out the toxins that renew it It makes me laugh because I've been thinking of doing the water fast for a while and now I've had an enforced one But But we don't want to suppress things it's a it's a natural part cycle of life Isn't it to go through healing stages and I think it's I've just been absolutely horrified by I Don't know how much you covered this but on both sides So you've got on one side everyone saying oh my god It's not you know, what is it and I'm like well, what does it matter if it is if you're ill it is What does it matter what the label is because most diseases are just man-made labels that the root cause is the same anyway But then you've got on the other side of things the sort of more the true type things and I oh well Oh, well, I'm not ill because I do this and I do that I do that and it is hysterical, isn't it? I think I've been noticing on both sides a lot of Ego sort of kicking in and sort of like oh well not me because I'm this and I'm session of this and you're just like let it let Let life go through phases let it go through the ups and downs You know in nature There's a reason why they say you do your detox as the leaves come off the trees and as the leaves go on the trees To cleanse your body out of the stuff So I found it quite fascinating although I would use the word irritating at the same time You can really block your progress. Can't you when you're when you're just really trying striving really hard to stay Basically stagnant because you don't want to change the status quo But you know and we'll do anything as human beings to avoid pain and to avoid anything uncomfortable But you know when you surrender that and you allow yourself to be in the actual flow Of what the universe brings for your highest good then you're going to be experiencing more, you know the more Souls that are sort of I guess without judgment, you know at a higher level that they go through more challenges in life because that's part of the Spiritual learnings and so yeah, just sort of releasing judgment and surrendering and letting go letting God Yeah, you know, it's so funny You sound just like me when I teach my classes because I teach traditional yoga It's very different perception than like what you see in the Western world And that's something I say all the time is allowing yourself to be comfortable with being uncomfortable And my original teacher before I started going to India a man named David Grieg up in Philadelphia I would fly to Philadelphia practice with him before I started going to India And he had the same teacher as I did from the same lineage and he said, you know The practice that we do of our stronger it can be very painful You're looking at putting legs behind your head deep back bending. It pulls up a lot of emotional stuff I mean, that's the whole point of the postures is to pull that stuff out of you so that you can examine it and my teacher asked our The group we call them Guruji Guruji. Is it necessary for this practice to be so painful and Guruji said yes because pain is real Pain is real Things like, you know, otherwise you just don't challenge yourself. You don't want to extend yourself to go further than where you already are You know, there's a lot of fear with that. It's it's it's about transmuting fears and it as well Yeah, false that my teacher in India. That's what you see who walks around the room. He's like why fearing why fearing why fearing, you know And you're like, why am I fearing? Why am I I love in India? They put the I like pain They'll say by painting like they put the ing on everywhere. I love it But yeah, it is it comes it comes down to you breaking that down and one thing too that we know from the practice You know for me my hamstrings are pretty open my hips are pretty open So some of the postures like leg behind the head or deep forward folding was never really hard for me And so my mind would kind of drift in those easier postures for me But back bending was where shit got real for me My language but and and it a teacher said to me once but think about that the areas where things are hard Where's your mind in those areas? Your mind is present your mind present on the moment in the moment So, yeah, yeah, what are you figuring out in this area? You're pretty clear because you'll be holding things in your back because that's where you store energy that Perhaps is difficult to shift through and everyone will be different You know, some people might have it in their organs or their legs or whatever and and it depends on the person So it's really I think helpful to go to the parts of the body where you are holding that energy and you know going in And seeing what is stored at a cellular level in your body at that point and then transmuting it I mean, I had a client contact me the other day and she said look, you know I've had some stuff come up with my kidneys What what a kidneys about and I encourage her to really research What what the kidneys represent, you know, look at the Louie's hay metaphysical work of what what do the kidneys hold? What are the affirmations that you can use for that and and and what experiences? Have you had in this incarnation where you have held on to that energy in your kidneys and not allowed it to flow through and And and so, you know, it's really having that communication with your body and understanding that your body's here to try and help you and it's just a messenger and And the other thing is that fear is false evidence appearing real. It's not actually Anything to be concerned about but again, it's a messenger. Yeah, and your kidneys are tied to the knees too So people have knee issues sometimes that's coming back up to the kidneys as well And yeah, it's nothing it's nothing to be afraid of like this is like being sick My opinion being sick is nothing to be afraid of it's um any time again with fevers and Congestion and all that kind of stuff. Sometimes that's just a sign that you're evolving that your DNA is actually evolving life Taking new bits into it and incorporating that in and going for the next level of the upgrade and and also it does all It really forces you to reevaluate things and take stock and sort of think right look at my diet Like at my lifestyle. Did I need a break? Do I need to turn off electronics for a while all sorts of things to actually Enable you to to really look at things. So Um, it's got so many benefits and yes, you can of course help your body out of it And that's really great to put all these different tools and techniques To make sure that it doesn't escalate to an area that that is going to cause trouble But this constant wanting to resist anything, you know It's A problem I think at the moment and I think what's really a problem is the fact that People feel once they've labeled something it changes the actual thing. So take it take take if I'm feeling ill Well, it doesn't change what's happening with my body. What labels people put on that And yet it was to most people because you're then slipping into the fear road and and if it then gets labeled with something else like You know what? Um, we're not allowed to say on here Then suddenly everyone's perceptions changes and that's going to change the way that your body responds to it And then you're on this vicious circle it's It's like when you have young people and they say oh that person's adhd blah blah blah blah You know the way I uh look at that or uh translate that is this person has a different energy This person has an energy of the fifth dimensional realm And so they act that they they function differently And and and they're in the world in a different way. And so, you know, these labels tend to be very derogatory and um and disempowering and um, so that's a great point Catherine I think that you know releasing these labels because the labels put us in a box and limit us They're very matrix driven, you know, I I I've thought about this before too like about you know, I I went to a private school And of course, I think things are I mean I graduated from high school 20 years ago So I'm sure it's very different now But even when I was a kid they were constantly testing us constantly constantly testing us And so they were like separating kids separating them by like what came up on their test results Which some people just don't test well, but they're super intelligent And so I think I think from a very young age, you're right We're just labeling things and it's even with sicknesses. It's putting people in these uh These jail sales of their mind where they can't break free of that when um, I mean the same thing happened to Todd He was told he was add as a child But one of his gurus told him he was just born with more prana more energy um You know and he's and he and they were from function quite fast in the world because it's a different energy that functions Very um at its highest potential in the fifth dimensional energies, but in the 3d It doesn't really adapt as well because the 3d so dense and it can't It finds it had to be able to um express itself in that reality Yep, that's exactly it. That's exactly it. He as a teenager I actually when he lived in london, uh, he found skateboarding It started finding ways to maneuver it and then ended up moving to india and that you know So that prana was there for a reason, but they wanted to like dumb it down with med with medication basically You know, but yeah, I think I think that's something moving into the new the new earth the new timeline We have to reconsider all of this and I think our ancestors knew this I think our ancestors were very capped into this Yes And and catherine's animals. I bet all your animals know this catherine Yeah Interesting thing because one of the things that a few of the things that I have been listening to recently with Some interviews and it's a constant theme that comes up and I was mentioned to bryce just before we started actually about this this um Perception even in the the spiritual world or the awake world, but that everything revolves around the human race Which I find really really fascinating because Yeah, I just it is really I've been listening to a lot and it's all about Almost how the whole planet is affected by the humans how the You know, obviously looking into our dna looking into our ancestors doing everything But what we don't realize is that applies to every living thing on work on the earth And if you really truly believe that everything is all interconnected, well, that's just not humans That's also rocks. That's plants. That's every animal. That's the earth It's the the microorganisms living in the earth and I've been giving a lot of thought to this sort of How can I explain it this sort of Yeah, I think there's a word there's a word for that human centric or something But that it's really fascinating and I do see it a lot in the spiritual community in the Awake community and I do feel we're missing a trick I think if we took the focus of us as a species completely now that doesn't mean that we don't Embrace all the gifts and all the wonderful abilities that we have got and that we can bring To the whole bigger picture and our role on the planet But I just find it it's quite limiting for me to see how much people are saying is the world according to humans And everything else is virtually just here to please us It's like little kids isn't it like little kids, you know when when when the whole universe revolves around them Actually, I've got a poem about Yeah, they're actually segues quite nicely but um You know little kids that they just think everything is is about them and and so when you have a level of emotional immaturity or immaturity As a as a human being on the spiritual path. You still see yourself as the center of everything Shall I read this poem now? It's really funny how you you mentioned that because it's exactly what this poem's about You know when um teenagers and kids think that that you know the world revolves around them and that they know everything Oh, yeah And um, it's got it's from my book. Um called um, her harry asked poems or just I'll just show you. Oh, I can't um share that. That's all right You'll need to thank you. I must also say there's quite a few adults that we know that have that attitude as well I think I think you can you can uh share now if you want to Oh, thank you. It's just so people can see what the cover is It is um a book that I wrote called hill harry asked poems and on the cover I wrote by a six-year-old adult because you know A lot of kids really relate to that when you say that and I was illustrated by a guy in australia could mark pain Who's the most incredible illustrator and um, so I was really gifted to have that but um, I'll just read you One of the poems it's available on my website if anyone wants to get a copy, but it's really fun and it's a lot of um Light relief at the moment in the midst of everything When you can have a good laugh, but this is called I am a child genius I am a child genius everyone says so if any questions. I am sure to know Some call it destiny. Some call it fate being so intelligent Hard to get a date Simply no subject exists in which I have no clue It's bound to be frustrating when I know much more than you I will be famous shortly for what I cannot tell but guaranteed in future years. You'll know my name quite well Architecture a snap maths fun and games geography easy. I never forget names Literature a breeze stock market kids play if I was not so bored with it I'd play it every day I'm told to run for politics a threat to any side. How can I be a candidate when I have never lied? A real child prodigy. I am modestly implore. There's one or two in history or maybe three no more Einstein and amateur as far as I can see reading his life story New much less than me not one to brag or boast. I have no more to tell for My bell It's you cut off right at the end there. I was like, oh no, did Medina's mom cut the internet off too? Read the last couple of lines Medina because we missed the last couple of lines Oh, really? Oh I was like, oh no, Medina's mom shut the internet off too That was meant to be like a sort of an invention I'll read that last was it just the last verse Last two lines what you count on Okay, so not the one to brag or boast. I have no more to tell for humble to the very last I'm never ring my bell Honestly, I can definitely think of some adults that this Like seriously want to be like is it exhausting knowing everything Knowing everything But isn't that like the height of my my teachers say the height of spirituality is humor is being able to laugh at yourself and laugh at the Situations, but I also think the height of spiritual awareness is knowing you don't know anything That you're you really have no clue about anything You know, especially learning that now with everything unfolding and knowing that the way that history has been talked to us It's probably all just a load of baloney I think I said last time like if you told me five years, I would be questioning What our planet looked like I would have told you I was crazy and at this point I'm like No idea what we're standing on No fucking clue what we're standing on right now and I'm looking with that because you know what we're still standing so But but knowing that having that sense of humility where you can accept you don't know anything Requires you to also have courage and have faith In that unknown and that's hard for people And it takes self-worth to say you don't know anything because when you have to sort of say I know everything There's a sort of an insecurity in that or a lack of feeling like you're Worthy enough to be able to say that you know what I mean. Yeah, it's sort of like Yeah, sorry the delay But yeah, that's such an important point because And all you've got to always be open to the fact that there's Something at any minute and another bit of information can drop which could completely change the way you view everything And I think most people watching this video will have been through so many moments like that over the past few years And for a lot of people a lot young longer But also that there's a reason why you're not meant to know everything all at once, you know, if you picked up A good book or at the start of a film and went straight to the ending there'd be no point You know, it's a bit of a cliche, but it is all about the journey And how you involve and and what you do with the information and How open you feel because even when you look at things like friendships and things it's amazing how People will put ego before friendship By not keeping that open mind and can show away something so priceless and I watch this weekend I don't know if these review to have seen it yet the film don't look up Not yet. No, but I'm gonna We were thinking we might do like a book club review of it medina if you're interested So we will watch it and then do an online review because there's so many fascinating things in it and It's I won't give any of it away for those of you that haven't seen it But it's an absolutely fascinating film It's really interesting because if you look at the stars that are in there, Jennifer Lawrence, Leonardo to Caprio Meryl Streep Then you're you're thinking well, this is interesting You've got this film on this subject with this car sort of in there And but you've got to keep an open mind because when you look and follow the storyline and there's so much in it It's absolutely Fascinating when you look at what's going on at the moment It really is now. I'm sure lots of people that don't understand what's going on We're just think oh just an interesting film, but when you look at it with a bit of knowledge of the The lies the complete fabrication the changing of history the manipulation. It is it's absolutely priceless. I'll tell you Oh, that sounds fantastic But the point that you made earlier too that you know, we're just wanting to rush through this process Of this transition and we just want to get to the end and you know people saying I'll cut wait till it's over And you're actually not in the present moment and you're not Experiencing the journey and so that's a real spiritual mastery test when you're doing something again that's uncomfortable, but you're able to Be in the moment and and take everything In in in a present moment out of the journey in the now Even if it's a journey that you don't particularly like or or it's uncomfortable Because I just hear so many people saying oh, I can't wait till this is over. I want it to finish I want to I want to get to the good world, you know The new earth and I want to get through all this stuff. So yeah, I think that's a real test for us at the minute It's interesting. You say that because one of my favorite Most life-changing books I ever read and a lot of people have read this is the bug of agita And I was actually showing this is my favorite commentary By bram das on the bug by geek to make the best commentary out there and the bug of agita is basically that You know, it's the story of arjuna who's like basically standing on a battlefield And he's on the front line and he's looking across at the opposing side He's seeing people that he's loved in his life his friends his teacher his family And he's having this like oh crap come to jesus moment In this split second and then christina is the avatar who has his conversation with him In this moment and it kind of reacts you're saying this uncomfortable time where he's having to go You know battle people he loves In that moment he comes down and has this conversation with christina who is one of the avatars of god um And and basically if he hadn't taken that moment there wouldn't be so so much in it even though It's just a story so much enlightening information where you know And that's also in that the bug of agita people often think that all of yoga and spirituality is just light and love But it's not there's a darkness to it as well And that's what christina tells arjuna like you're a warrior Buck up and go go war like this is your dharma Well, the final thing is the most amazing synchronicity. I have a quote here that I was going to share today by ram das Yes, he's my favorite from das It's amazing. It's on my it's on my computer ready to share and this is it here. Um, and I just love it's We're talking about uncomfortable things if you think you're in light and go spend a week with your family A lot of people have just experienced this at the minute through the the christmas period And I mean that that's the ultimate test, isn't it because often these Family situations are you know often karmic, you know ones that we're to work through And um, so I just thought that's so relevant to everything we're talking about It was kind of my screen All of his books are fantastic. He he left the earth plane like right before I think it was like december of 2019 Like right before everything kicked off. He but every people in my channel. I often quote We are we're all just walking each other home, which is a ram das quote Uh, we're all just we're all going to the same light, you know, we're all going to the same place So we Catherine talking about the ego if you really sit back and think we're all not just humans But animals nature everything that has that spark of consciousness We're all going home. We're all headed to the same home. So why do we have to have this arrogance? Why do we hold hands? Why can't we hold hands and do it together, you know in a united way as opposed to you know finding every little thing I mean, I just posted a video um about um the originals how basically um that they put a cease and desist letter on the parliament in in australia, which basically means that It's not a functioning entity anymore the parliament or the government in australia because um, you know, they They've just done that and now I put a post about that was the huge announcement huge news And um, there was three comments on on the on the youtube side saying well, I didn't like the sound the sound wasn't good What does the matter about the sound that look at the announcement that we've just That i've just put on here That stops up perfectly the don't look out film So I think we should make a date to we'll watch it and then do a view of it because when you see it you will What you've just said then it's like we we as humans spend so much time focusing on completely irrelevant unimportant things and completely often Yeah, it is As I say, I won't say any more about it because if anyone is difficult so we're watching but you see that film You're just like this is hysterical and very clever for that reason. It's like how Much more of an obvious example. Can you get about completely missing the whole point of life? It's funny when you guys were talking about um a few minutes ago We're talking about like not being okay with not knowing anything I got this image in my head and we see this image a lot of like birds kept in cages And then the door opens and they won't leave the cage and it's almost like For our whole lives as humans we've been put in this cage that's been Drained into us through or drilled into us through You know school society of what is reality and what is not that we almost like keep ourselves in this cage And it's almost like being able to say well I don't know what anything is that that door opening to let you then leave the cage if that makes sense You know and that's the freedom of saying. I don't I don't know. I have no idea what we're standing on I have no idea like really and we know this is good versus evil But that's about all we know at this point And and I think a part of this great awakeness finding that sovereignty being able to stand up your on your own two feet And sometimes that is saying I don't know And I can go and listen to all these people give their opinions and still be Content being in a place that I don't know You know tapping into the depths of the human spirit because you know, these are Unnavigated waters that we've never charted before and so, you know tapping into our Our spiritual inner core is something that many people aren't used to because they're used to being told what to do and also Living externally based on the external circumstances So asking everyone to to flip that around and just go within and navigate from a different place Which is your in truth that you have all universal knowledge within you anyway And so it's redefining a whole way of being in the world our whole existence Everything. Yeah, and it's funny. We're talking about like the arrogance. Sometimes I think that arrogance that people show is actually Comes from a place of fear That they're wrong If you if you have um And a superiority A superiority complex you're actually more Feeling more insecure and unworthy than someone who has an inferiority complex Which is really interesting. Yeah, that is really interesting. Yeah Sorry, go ahead Catherine. I was just going to say that arrogance it is It's amazing how different are difficult humans find it to say sorry Now again, if you watch animals interacting and having fights or things like this They have very clear submission and sort of apologies to each other and it's not something that they find difficult at all It's completely natural um, and it's it's really fascinating to see how difficult it is for most humans to either say sorry or say I was wrong or to say You know to admit That they could have behaved in a different way and I I find that so fascinating as to why Why do we find it so difficult? You know, we we've got these I think it's that cage that you were saying about rise about the bird cage and things It's like if you've been told you are this And that's been embedded into you for so much of your life It's then very very difficult for people to sort of step outside of that and I see it a lot with my children who are sort of Well, actually my daughter was 20 yesterday. So I have no more teenagers in the house But 20 and 21 and it's just amazing how many people that talking about the family thing every single conversation from Grandparents and things like that is that what your plans? What are you going to do with your life? What you're going to do this? Oh, you can't do that because you've got to do something responsible And and I mean I'm sitting there listening to those conversations. I can't quite believe What I'm hearing but that is coming from all sort of Older people. It's like, you know, there's this expectations of everything and I'm thinking So so sad. You can see why people find it so difficult to actually then have the courage to say I'm going to try something completely different And and if I make a mistake and I don't like it, I'm quite prepared to then try something else Yeah I was just going to ask Kevin. Do you think that that Sorry ability that animals have to be able to you know Say sorry in their own way is a lack of ego. Do you think it boils down to that Catherine? I do I think it is I do do not see ego in animals and I even see it in the human Um animal interaction as well. So one of my ponies Romeo is absolutely hysterical. He's the most communicative also I've ever known and um, we have some, you know We're quite similar personality wise Um, and he can really tell me off for example If I'm being disrespectful and I'm with him and I'm on my phone to someone or something like that And not giving him his attention But equally sometimes he can be just respectful back to me and I can sit there and have a conversation with him And you can just see it all melt away and you can see him going. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. I shouldn't have done that I mean, I'm not exaggerating at all and it dissolves away like this and there's no resistance to it And what's interesting is I as a human find it really easy To let go of any ego when I'm interacting with animals Much easier than I do when I'm interacting with human animals Yeah Because they're a mirror because they're reflecting back. Um, you know their own, um energy and yeah So it's like we're chameleons. We try to adapt to whatever situation we're in So when we're with humans, we act like you We act like animals. Yeah, I think some of that has come through survival too You know you're talking about your daughter being happy birthday to your daughter by the way being 20 which is still like so young that's still what you're still kind of a baby at 20 and having all these like huge questions asked of her that are very Very serious questions and you know, I was thinking about here and especially I think there's probably a problem all over the western world Where more and more kids are getting to more and more debt Because they feel like they have to keep up with this certain standard that is expected of them You know, we had like keeping up with the joneses, you know, and and this cycle starts to happen and I think yes Showing that vulnerability of being like I'm was wrong. I apologize or saying. I don't know all of a sudden puts you in this uh place of a major fear of not surviving um If you're if you're a young person in Australia, you can just throw the idea of buying a house out the window It's just so ridiculously expensive here anywhere to buy a house It's just not really a viable option for young people anyway these days. So, you know, it's not something that's um A realistic goal anymore Yeah, it's a little same Yeah, I just saw someone posted earlier like in the 1950s in america You know a family of four of two parents and two kids could buy a house Send the kids to college have cars all in one salary So we're seeing that and that wasn't that long ago You know, we're seeing this this like contest entrapment entrapment entrapment entrapment that um, and you know, the thing is is like If we talk about what's happening now the 99 percent versus the 1 percent they're more of us than them So we've allowed this to happen. We've stayed in that bird cage Yeah, not flowing out Just just been compliant and passive and on some level too that they meet our needs to a certain degree So that we're comfortable or or we have a certain level of quality of life And so we don't stand up and change anything or we don't we don't make a noise because we're managing Okay, you know and and it's sort of been set up that way as well I know in australia people say, you know, they've given us a certain quality of life here So that um, you know, they can continue with all the nefarious stuff that's going on underneath While we just coast along, you know, but yes Yeah, very difficult when you're caught in that trap to make the time to actually Even dream. I mean, I know a lot of um people that if you ask an adult and sort of say What would your dream life look like? What what's your real passion? They find it It's so drummed out of them that you can even follow your passion um But one of the things I find quite interesting on this sort of notes that is linking it bad bit is A lot of the conversations that we talk about sort of moving into the age of aquarius and the new way of doing things And I've loved all the chats um A lot of people really valuing what i'm called traditional skills, you know building plumbing farming mechanic all the things that academics can frown on realizing these are the skills that are so important to not only survival but thriving and having a really thriving community um, but I'm still surprised at a lot of the focus that there is on the financial side of things in a lot of these tools because You know, okay, there's so many different things you can look at, you know, there's the the precious metals There's the cryptos. There's all things like this, but isn't it funny how it's very difficult for most humans To distance themselves from the focus of the finances, right Even though all we've been through this year It still seems to be something that it's very difficult for people to distance themselves away That's part of the enslavement system that has been indoctrinated into them that um, this is their security. This is their You know, when you think of the sharkers, it's the base chakra of their foundation of existence and so um, you know, that that's all been a Different ploy by the dark and and you know once once the whole money system goes and we function differently that that's part of stepping out of this whole Imprisonment system and um, you know, I'm looking looking forward to that myself. It would be great I know I couldn't agree. I know I'm not like a money person like that's not even before. I mean I don't understand the stock market. I don't understand like that's just not it's like, you know, the subjects that you think about the The peanuts when the adults would talk Anytime anybody's talking about like anything having to do with that. It's like, wow. Like it just You know, I want to be like All that kind of stuff But that's confused me because and and granted again, I don't know I don't know what the new money system is going to look like I hear I there's a lot of respected people and I hear what they have to say and it does sound like We're moving in. We know that the old system has to go down because it's associated with the with the old system Um, but it sounds to me from what I understand is that We're all going to be okay Yeah, we're going to have our needs taken care of So why are we still trying to play the money system? In the new world like we played it in the old world Oh, definitely Doesn't it like to me? I think it's a real trap. I think it is very difficult To gain to step out of that because you're right You know, we have all been so trapped by it or a lot of us have allowed ourselves to be trapped by it But at some stage we've got to step into that trust and stop focusing because they've all You know, it's all this talk about, you know, accumulating wealth for future generations and things like this And it's like that is so the old system. This is so the old system And yeah, you I think it's really important that somehow We break three of it and and even like, you know, my one of my new it's not new year yet But one of my new year's resolutions is I refuse to talk about And the v word I just refuse to engage in those conversations of people today I cannot tell you how many times I've had to shut down that conversation But I think we just got the more we all practice it Of moving into these new ways of doing surely that's going to Move us forward in that direction a lot quicker. Yeah, perfect. Great to go forward I think is to think about What does the world need, you know, what what what unique gifts and skills have I got that can match the The need in the world the demand in the world How can I give to the world and and if you naturally give to the world in the way that it needs you Then you all your needs will be met because it's an energetic thing You know that the energy will come back to you in the way that's appropriate and and the more you give in the world The more that you meet the demands of what the world needs the more that that flow will come back to you And that's why we've got to think about things now, you know Is there a person down the street that needs something, you know, what can I what can I Do to support them So that they get their needs and maybe there's someone else in the same boat that needs that, you know Just just being really open to how this new world is going to look and and and what are the demands required for really Creating a foundation for a new earth that supports everyone Yeah, I agree. There's a verse in the bible My mother used to say to us all the time when we were kids She would make us go work the soup kitchen and she would always say to who much is given much is expected And so when we think about wealth we oftentimes think about money But wealth is also your spiritual knowledge your your intelligence And I know for the those of us, you know when the plug is pulled which we don't know that when that's going to happen A lot of us do want that like vindication of like I was right, you know But on the flip side to who much is given much is expected all of us have been in this unique Situation where we figured things out or understood that something was happening a lot earlier than our fellow humans And so we're going to have to really help people and tuck our pride away And be there to hold their hand like to give back to them Even the ones that we can't stand because they've been Not nice to us but to be there and to be that wealth of support for them And so it moves out of that whole idea of like money being the only wealth You know and just your essence of who you are as a as a Fragment of the cosmos You know and what you can contribute and what you can contribute to that, you know I mean I I've been thinking I've had quite a few clients saying to me. I feel very isolated alone So I'm thinking well, how can I help resolve that and I'm thinking Well, maybe starting up online groups for people and I was thinking of names where people can come together and support And nurture one another and help, you know Really develop their own divine soul missions and and their inherent gifts and bring them out into the world You know groups that can do that on an online way if anyone's interested contact me because I'd love to you know start up and I've had people asking me about this and that's trying to match A need that's out there. Yeah Well, I think too, you know, we were kind of talking about that like all these, you know I think a lot of people when this when the poll the plug is pulled Just they have no clue who they actually are because they've been so Beaten down by who they should be that they can't remember who they are And so the first step would be giving them space to actually rediscover Themselves and rediscover their soul in their body because some know that sounds silly But from my time as a yoga student and teacher so many people are just they have they're just out of their body all the time Yes, some of you know what's going on with them Actually earlier I got a message to to to mention that which is just to sit in a and and that sounds weird But just sit in a darken room and just be still And just see what happens, you know, turn the lights off make sure that all sort of interruptions are You know, turn your phone off or that sort of thing and just sit in a darken room And just be still and see what comes to you In that space because our nervous systems are so overstimulated That just the ability to be still and have zero stimulation You're going to start connecting on the inner and and I got I got that message earlier I think kathryn was talking to to mention it. So yeah Yeah, so important. It's one of the biggest gifts that it's been from not being well for the last couple of weeks Has been exactly that because I'm I'm the type of person I'm there's so many things I love doing that I'm sort of quite busy because I love doing the animals and I love my work and I love mixing There are friends, you know, there's so many things I love doing it But what I have to make more time for Is that stillness and sitting there and I have had such a complete electronic detox Over christmas. I've had some real awakening moments about Ah, okay. And and also the other thing is it's it's you can see why they say time is a healer because We could we were talking at the start about all of us and I've definitely said it on numerous occasions That you know, oh come on. We want this to hurry up. We want it to be over and I can see some of that because I know a lot of people myself included where some um family members are still being very actively forced for this and they're resisting resisting but the The resistance gets harder and harder the longer you leave it in some of their circumstances So I can see why speeding up is really important to that But for me, for example, one of the biggest things I've learned since I've got older is to wait before responding And what this has taught us all to do is to wait Wait wait stop And and and feel into the situation more and educate ourselves more and Do some alternative research and and does thing does this make sense or not? I mean, I had a brilliant interview with cliff high. I mean all these are brilliant But you know, he was saying well, you know, when you take the mr. T thing, you know Is he an idiot? No, is this so, you know, stop trying to sort of microanalyze every single word and think trust there's a reason for this There's a reason for this because so this this forced um delay in everything certainly everyone I've been speaking to of this you can really see how it has benefited everyone by not You know, as they say, what is it? Russian with haste regret your leisure or whatever It's so it is so important sometimes just to stall and just wait One of the greatest spiritual tests is patience. Absolutely. Like throughout my life is like a constant learning patients patients Patience when you when you're a cosmic being and you're used to being on other planetary systems, you Manifest things like this, you know, boom And you come here into the 3d dense reality and everything's like walking through, you know mud So slow slow slow and you just have to continually be learning for me, you know that lesson of Patience release attachment release expectation Just, you know trust that that's all going to be perfect in divine alignment So funny you say that because down here in the south the southeastern part of the united state the deep south We most my accent isn't as strong compared to sounds people talk real slow They have a very southern draw and the weather out here is like it's like walking through a bulk bulk of hot soup because it's so human So we say that's why people talk slow because it's just too damn hot to talk fast So so you got to channel your inner southern or if you like it's too damn hot to talk fast So we're just going to take this low But yeah, it is it is that that um, and I love how you said the release of expectation Catherine and I've talked about this before X and I love how you said that you're the guy said once I didn't Break your heart. I broke your expectation You know so true and so so powerful because we've all got so many expectations and often We don't even know I mean I can think of things with with friends recently where I didn't even realize I had the expectations until they got broken. Yeah, and then you know, and this is you know, again one of life's constant Um, learning lessons is that we do have these expectations and things But we've got to realize those are our expectations and they're not going to necessarily match other people's You know the interesting thing is because that's happened to me so many times in my life I'm sure everybody where you expect something different a different outcome than what you get But it's interesting at looking back even when you're going through something stressful Where your expectations been broken if you can take a moment to look back on your life Where you've been very disappointed by your expectations not being met Normally that leads you to even an even better outcome That you never could have planned, you know, so even in that that little scenario just to let go of of knowing Of having an expectation of what's to come wins to come house to come because none of us know None of us know anything but we know it is coming because it's it's It's astrological. It's you can't escape it. So Yeah, it's the expectation, you know work on yourself and I think a lot of people with the mr. T thing too, they they still are in this like matrix based, um Seat where they want someone else to do it for them. They're expecting someone else to do it for them And that might be why we're delayed Yeah To agree with it. So it's like, you know, it shouldn't make any difference what he says about that That is it's like we were saying about the financial that's so the old way I like that so 3d You know, it's it's so the old way of doing things and it's like we have to break this pattern Of needing to be told what to do. It's brilliant listening to stimulating conversations I mean, I've listened to all sorts of things. So I've had lovely conversations with dr Robert O young who doesn't believe that viruses exist And then you'll have conversation with someone else and another equally brilliant natural scientist and things to believe something else And they're all really fascinating But it's very rarely one answer to things anyway, it's very rarely that simple and You can put it through your own filter system too, you know, does this resonate for me and that's all Going to be dependent on your own level of evolution so yeah, and I and I think that if we are able to Stop Making judgments on things and just understanding that Everyone has their own truth That that that's going to just make such a difference. Yeah, absolutely. I yeah And it's interesting. I've stayed all the time when my favorite quotes is by Aristotle It's a sign of an intelligent mind when you can entertain an idea without accepting it And I think what you're doing when you're listening to so many stimulating conversations You're able to listen to these conversations without judgment but entertain them You don't have to accept them and then go listen to somebody else And I see it a lot in the yokel world too There's so many times where a teacher said something to me years ago I didn't quite understand at the moment, but I remembered it and then like years later it'll hit me and I'll be like Oh That's what they meant. I get it now I'll get it now So it's like you can kind of store stuff away, but you don't have to have we were in this weird weird place in our lives where You have to have an an immediate Polarizing opinion on something and you cannot waver you cannot look across the street And I remember growing up and I mean this was what 30 or 20 years ago This wasn't that long ago We had to study debate in school where we were sort of in different sides of the same argument that we had to To learn how to debate that and it might not have you had to debate a side that you might not have agreed on you know and and I feel like that that um That that of course leads to critical thinking skills Which I think a lot of humanity is lacking right now that we have to be able to have our own critical thinking skills And I can't no one can give you that You know, it's like that whole idea of gnosis versus edio that you we see in the early christian Scriptures where they believed that gnosis or inner knowing was far more superior than edio or outer knowing You know edio would be phd's your education all that kind of stuff that the world is giving you but that gnosis That inner knowing came from your own practice Your own taking in information and just feeling What you needed to feel and once you have that gnosis no one can take it away from you You're not going to be dependent on somebody else I think we're competing against things that we don't even really fully understand or know about and and not to be negative But we're we're receiving um frequencies and subliminal programming from from very advanced technology And and we don't even know it's there so when you don't have that really strong internal um connection or knowing Then you're very much like a Leaf in the breeze just floating around and and very vulnerable to all this stuff that's going on So people need to realize that this stuff is happening and that we need to build these really strong internal foundations So that we can overcome, you know all that energetic Well, it's um, what would you call infiltration or energetic? Um Inductionation brainwashing, you know that battlefield because that's really what this is about, isn't it? This has nothing to do with politics. This has nothing to do with health. This has nothing to do with countries This is about your spiritual sovereignty Hmm. Yeah, and that when you have that spiritual sovereignty You you know how to like say say I don't know or no or let me wait on this and you could say it without You could put that boundary up And you're right so many people are just going to get pushed around like like that. I love that leaf in the breeze Scenario because they've lost that Hmm. It's still there And it comes with the connection to mother earth. I saw a wonderful um original elder speaking and she was saying that Just lie down on the ground With your stomach imagining like an umbilical cord going deep into the earth and connecting to mother earth and just Stay lying on the ground until you feel that connection really building with mother And and that again is a universal consciousness universal knowing universal knowledge When when you tap into that mother earth energy, which the originals knew how to do so well That that is going to be um that source of um internal foundation That allows you not to be that leaf flowing flowing around in the breeze And when you're saying go ahead take sorry Catherine Well, it's just so interesting and that sort of brings me full loop back to what I was saying about The humans not not being the center of everything all the time is because that grounding is so so important And that connection that then connects you to Everything that is and I think you know, this is where so many of our animals who live in human Um environments get so wrong because we get so out of balance is because we stop them grounding a typical example Is putting metal shoes on horses Is I mean, can you imagine just completely stops their grounding experience? So similarly without you know shoes that we have a lot of them have got rubber soles And that connects us from you on purpose It's like sunglasses disconnecting us from the sun and the encodings from the sun on purpose These were all things that were put in to stop that connection to a divine connection to stop us evolving I stopped wearing sunglasses like a year ago because I found that out Yeah, I haven't worn them for ages. Yeah, or clock You know watches similarly interfere with our energetic field Tuning into time we can do that anyway intuitively if you don't wear one of these I mean, I know sometimes for things you need to look but On the whole you can do that intuitively and this can interfere with your energetic field So, you know, there's so many things like that that have been Accepted by us that actually had a nefarious purpose underneath It's like well dogs can smell time. Can't they like dogs know Uh, what time, you know, I'm sure everyone has a dog your dog knows when you're coming home Oh, yeah, the clock they can smell they know they don't know the actual Two o'clock three o'clock four o'clock they can smell it In your elders had the same thing They would um the the husband would go off and hunt and he'd be gone for a couple of days and And just as he walked into the door the what the the wife the the mother would have his food cooking Ready to eat the minute he walked in the door. She would know intuitively when he would be coming back home She'd have it all perfectly, you know ready for him the minute he went and he might have been gone two days or three days or something You know, it's just that that ability that we have that we can regain if we if we practice it Yeah, just all the gadgets all the things and just as you say tuning in and and if you don't Use it you lose it. So we we've talked a lot about the 90% junk dna that we all know is ridiculous But when you start reusing these skills, it's amazing how quickly they come back again It's like riding a bike or riding a horse. You never forget even if you haven't done it for 40 50 years And but it's so easy to sort of we awaken these bits of our our mind our soul and things if you practice it Yeah, definitely and it wasn't that far off I mean think about it what clocks came in to play big time with the industrial revolution Which was what a little over a hundred years ago? you know so so with the trains so We haven't really been tied to clocks for that long, you know our ancestors We that it should not be hard for us to go back and get into that that rhythm, you know of of understanding time without The actual time, you know When I think of the industrial revolution, I always think of the child's dickens books You know, they sum up the energy the atmosphere of that so well It's just so sort of dark and bleak and My favorite story is the Oliver twist And the 1968 movie the musical that was my favorite movie as a kid I love those songs. Yep. I love to dance glorious The workhouses the you know, we we soon had child labor laws after that Yeah, yeah, we it was supposed to be a good thing, but it ended up really hindering us That industrial revolution. So absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was a big boy from the dark as well Yeah, you can see so many of these things now, but the good thing is is Once you aware of it, you're not going to let that happen again. We're not Watch that you can't unsee it. Yep Yeah, and the awakening is huge. I mean you've just got to look at the levels of uh You know numbers in protests around the world and you know millions and millions all over the planet now are gathering And and every week it's building. So this is this is very exciting and um, I think We're just on the verge of this huge Awakening for the masses. So um, that that's something that we can maybe spend time Visualizing to to help it, you know get over the line. Yep. We just got across that that threshold I know I learned recently that We speaking of time we've been doing this wrong We've been looking at dates when really we're need to be looking at portals and when certain portals open which for most humans That's even for me. Sometimes that's like what? So that comes back to that just letting go and having faith and um being like, I don't know But I have courage and I have faith that it's all going to turn out the way it's supposed to Whatever that looks like beyond my expectation. So Yeah, and when you do that you free up so much emotional space For yourself because all that time that subconsciously or consciously we're spending worrying You free up all that time. Oh my mum's little clock. Um, and how English is that? We're just talking about time and That's hysterical, but it is so it's amazing how it creates so much time when you stop worrying about things It's To do all the one things that you want to and it opens up also Infinite possibilities that we have absolutely no idea what they could be because we limit our possibilities by having some sort of Expectation of them. And so when you when you totally release that you actually get greater opportunities coming into you because they're even beyond what you would imagine for yourself I know I know it's getting we've been on for a little over an hour lady So I know we're getting we're winding down. So I know it's getting late for you Catherine but I will say too on top of that my Best friend growing up her father said something to her once that I have held my whole life I was sitting there and I heard them say say this to her when we were preparing For a college for university and trying to make those grown-up decisions at like 18 years old, you know Because you're so wise at 18 her father said if you if you knew that you would never fail What would you do? Perfect, you knew that failing wasn't an option. What would you do? And the other thing is if you knew that money wasn't an option too, what would you do? Take money out of the equation as well and Think what you'd do then, you know, if there was no such thing what what would make you really really happy That and I think that's a great thing for people walking into this new earth that have lost that sense of self Like to get back if if all these limitations were gone Yeah, and I had nothing but success. What would I do? Yeah, what would that look like? And you might be surprised you'd probably get the answer right away Perfect ponder everyone perfect thing to ponder when you're lying on the earth You're very And we don't care how cold and wet it is in the uk that's not an excuse you'll still do it Australian you've got no excuses Georgians you it's 74 degrees outside here, which I know you guys are in Celsius. That's really Mild like this is tank top weather. So Georgians have no excuse To come out there and lie in the grass So we'll walk you posting our selfies tomorrow That was such fun. I'm so pleased the Go back on again I know that was awesome. That was invigorating for me For everybody watching leave us your opinions and your comments down in the comment section below And I'm going to be posting both Catherine and Medina's channel links in the description box below I know most of you follow them But for those who don't I'm going to go ahead and put that down there and I'll also be posting Medina's website And Catherine, can I post your websites for your animal? Please too. I've got two So I'll send you the links to them afterwards. So one of them's quite courses on and the other one's got I'm just uploading. I'm a bit behind getting all my videos on there But there's some really good stuff there and recommendations and things like that So and I will be doing the same to you guys as well. Thank you so much If people would like a session with me and they want to mention this show with Catherine and Bryce I can give you a 10% discount as well. So Amazing. Well, I'll put that in the description box too guys So awesome. Awesome. Well, I love both of you ladies so much It's such an honor to be your friends in this life be part of your I know virtual hug part of your soul family These beautiful beautiful women Hopefully soon we'll be able to celebrate in person when we're teleporting to each other, but But we won't hold any expectations on that date as you know It's coming soon though and lots of love to everybody watching as I've said many times on my channel You guys are just as much a part of these channels as we are We wouldn't be here having these conversations without you and I do look forward to seeing your input in the comment section I do try to read most of the comments Just to see what you guys have to say too because as rom daas says we are just walking each other home And your opinion is very very valuable. So please make sure you leave us those in the comment section below All right guys lots of love Happy new year Bye