 Everyone, I'm Sergio Alegre, member of the Foundation of the Horizons, and here with Anna Corkmidella, she's the Freedom Assistant of Espigolados, an NGO created in 2014, placed in the Pratidio Brigade at the heart of the metropolitan area and at the heart of the part, the agricultural part of the Balci Brigade. The area where a lot of people from Barcelona can see agriculture, intensive agriculture, and now in danger by the airport expansion project of the state of Spain. Hello, Anna. Hello, Sergio. Thank you for having us. How are you? Fine, and you? Perfect. So we are going to have a short conversation with Anna, focusing three questions, and if you're ready, we can go on. Yeah, sure. Okay. For our public, what are the goals of Espigolados, and what are the activities you develop? Well, as you said, Espigolados is an NGO that was created in 2014, and it acts upon three social and environmental needs. So our first goal is to fight against food loss and food waste, which is one of the main problems of the of the actual food system. Then our second goal is to guarantee the right to a healthy and sustainable diet to everyone, but especially to vulnerable people. And then our third goal is to create a job, insertion positions in a little central kitchen we have in El Brad de Llobregat, which transforms what we call ugly food and vegetables. So that is a misshapen food and vegetables. And what we do to achieve these goals is, well, and also Espigolados is the Catalan word for a gleaning. So what we do is we have recovered this gleaning activity, and we go to some farmers fields, and we harvest or we glean actually all the food they have left in the fields after the main harvest, due to some different reasons, but that would be overproduction, or that would be some price policies that sometimes prices go low, and then they cannot sell the products they have in the fields. Also this misshapen, well, some misshapen fruits and vegetables, etc. So we glean this food with groups of volunteers, and what we do with this food is we give it to some social entities that work in the city of Barcelona, but also in all the towns in the metropolitan area to actually guarantee this right to healthy and sustainable diets that, of course, have to have some fresh food as fruits and veggies. And well, as I said, we also have this little central kitchen, which is actually like a workshop where we transform some misshapen food into vegetable preserves. Okay, thank you. And from your point of view of an NGO already involved in the food system, how do you see the future of the food system of the metropolitan area of Barcelona, let's say? Well, we want to stay positive, so let's say that we believe that nowadays a lot of people is aware that the globalized and industrialized food system makes no good either to the environment or to people. And we believe that the high impacts that the actual food system has on soils, on biodiversity, on water quality, etc. are well known. And we would say the same, it happens with the social impacts that the actual food system has. And we can all see that at this time, there are some social movements, some social organizations, and even some administrations that have put the spotlight on these factors and are now developing some action plans to have some impacts on these fields to try to promote changes, both of conscious and also of behavior. And so we would say that a first step at least has been done and by putting this problematic on the spotlight. So for that, no, we are, let's say, happy. But that said, we also believe that some of the actions that are now being developed don't actually track the root of the problem of the food system problem. So what we believe is that we should change the whole construction of the food system. And that has to do with some concepts as food sovereignty, and agriculture, and dignity, equality, etc., which aren't really being implemented. Thank you, Anna. In this, you mentioned that there has to be a transformation of the system. In this transformation of the system, what role, what policies, what programs do you think, as people of those think, that they should be developed by the public administration? What as NGO, you ask the public administration in the metropolitan area and let's say Catalonia and Spain and Europe, for sure. Well, we think that from the administration field, we have a great framework, which is the Milano Urban Food Policy Pact. And what we'd say to the administration is just like take a read of the Pact and try to implement the measures it has, because we really believe that they do track the root of the food system problem. And what we really like about this agreement is that it has a cross-cutting strategy. So it takes into account different problematics that the food system has nowadays. One of them, of course, and it is our main field, so it's food loss and food waste, but there are also some other things that they track down. And yeah, we would say just like try to implement the actions that this agreement has. And of course, try to promote local and seasonal food, try to valorize the small farmers, small producers, try to promote a short circuit for selling these local food, etc. And there are some town halls that have already created their own food strategy after doing a little study of what they have in their area. They see like, okay, so how can we implement what the Milan Pact says in our own town? So we would like all the town halls around Barcelona's area to try to develop these strategies, because this way, we all start thinking about what food system we want and what food system we can try to implement, at least, from the administration. Okay, Anna, thank you very much for your kind answers. And well, from no solutions and from Jeff, just good luck, good work, and please keep working on this for the future. Thank you very much. Thank you so much, Sergio.