 We're recording, go ahead. Okay, we just lost Matt, so we don't have a quorum. Okay, so I just want to welcome everyone. My name is Angela Mills. I work for the town of Amherst. This is a recording of the Amherst Cultural Council, and I want to thank everyone on the council for all of their hard work. We've been putting in the long hours, so thanks everyone. And at this time I want to recognize the co-chair, Juliet. Thank you, Angela. Appreciate it. And the recordings in progress? It is in progress. We are recording to the cloud, and then we'll be put on the YouTube channel shortly. Okay, thank you. Have a good evening. So I'll read the statement, pursuant to chapter 20 of the Acts of 2021. This meeting will be conducted via remote means. Members of the public who wish to access the meeting may do so in the following manner on the town of Amherst.ma.gov website for the recording. No in-person attendance of members of the public will be permitted, but every effort will be made to ensure that the public can adequately access the proceedings in real time via technological means. In the event that we are unable to do so for reasons of economic hardship and despite best efforts, we will post on the town website, an audio or video recording transcript, or other comprehensive record of the proceedings as soon as possible after the meeting. Roll call, starting with Cody. Thank you. Thank you. Although we are still having internet problems with you. Rachel. I'm here. Thank you. Eleanor. Here. Matt. Here. Thank you. All right. We are all set. Very good. I guess just to kind of give everybody an update of where we are with the deliberations, we have roughly about 30 more to go. So the pace that that we've been proceeding at has been going pretty well. And unless anyone has any urgent business, I suggest that we get right back into it because basically we should be able to get through everything tonight and then Monday. And then we would have the full session on Wednesday for voting. And as Matt had presented last week that we would. We will be sending based on the notes and the discussion that we've been, you know, kind of doing the running tally will send a proposed balance budget ahead of time for everyone to review. And and be able to finalize this Wednesday night if we keep on track. All set then. I'm ready. All right. Let's go. Thank you. Our next grant is from Rita Parisi. And this is got the in Victorian tales by candlelight. And it would be Monday, October 30 next year at the Amherst senior center. The request is for $500. And collectively, we scored this as you find my place again. We scored this as a 2.29. And there were no particular comments. It should serve about 50 people got the Victorian tales by candlelight. It's a theatrical adaptation of three weird tales by Sarah orn. I think I said that wrong. She's considered an important 19th century regional writer whose stories reflect New England and his people. She grew up in Southbrook, Maine, and would often go to a doctor and father to visit patients. Let me speak and get. So basically, this grantee is adapted three of her gothic stories by editing them while still retaining her meaning and bunch of her original words and phrasing. The audience is hearing the words while it's Rita right is portraying the narrator. And all of the characters in the story. So this is not a reading it's a performance and it includes small sets props light and q amp a afterwards it's about 60 to 70 minutes duration and something about video one website I don't quite know what that means. So there anyone who would like to champion this grant hi Robin. We're happy you're here. You know, I mean the one comment is again we have to look at everything. As far as the senior center, and this is the full budget for this. And once again, the senior center saying our budget does not allow us to supply extra programs so they just are hoping that we'll consider fully funding it. What number are we on. Sorry, we are on number number number 61. 6060. I love it. I love it. I kind of wish it was being performed elsewhere in addition to senior center, you know, and for a larger audience, but we have to go through the grant as as submitted. I think it's great that it's an original work. However, let's let's see what said if we are not fully funding how she would do do this. She says that she would ask the emmer senior center to contribute financially or she'll offer a small discount if not fully funded. So, not something a whole lot of. Yeah, yeah. Well, I wanted to say, you know, I love it as well. But I do think that when we do our final tally, we should probably go through and do a sort of comprehensive look at senior center grants and probably adjust those down by a certain percentage just to reflect our need for diverse grantees. I think that that kind of fits our guidelines. And I do think Julianne and I, as co chairs should probably reach out to the senior center and have a conversation about what their funding structure is and I just I feel like there's something systemic that's happening here with a lot of their perspective artists coming to us and having very similar letters. And I just think that's, that's a conversation we should have with them. We can help advocate for their funding but for their recreational budget with the town, but I'm not sure that this is just something systematically that we want to be. I'm not sure this is where we want to plug ourselves in. Yeah, and I'd have to say that as far as the numbers served being just 50 people, even, even though I think the caliber of this, you know, would warrant full funding, because of the small audience numbers I'd probably drop it to 350 anyway. Yeah, yeah Robin. I was thinking about this and is it any different than for things that are happening at the Johns library, it's a venue. And I have a feeling that some of this is because this is where they're finding a venue. I think that was true Davis space with what we kept extending and then he finally found that he could do his gig at the senior center. I, it's not very big so I guess, yeah we really can't expand on the numbers even though it's open. So it's, that's my guess that some of it is because that's the place I have found. And I could look. I think that's a, that's, that's a fair point. However, this is a venue that serves a very, you know, very important and obviously, you know, a sub section of the community we want to support arts and culture to, but it's a very defined segment of the community versus, you know, the library is for everybody. Yeah. So, I mean, I think the reality is that we're going to have to be adjust these down anyway. So point, point noted about, you know, the location but in addition to it being that location. We have a letter of support saying that this program is is for that community. We are we good to progress. Okay. So the next is from Julia Peterson. If anyone isn't speaking it'd be great if we could try muting again because we're having that issue again. And this is making space for the fiber curious Danish weaving book translation project and it's going to occur spring and fall 2023 and throughout 2023. Okay, it's at the barn theater and studios in Belcher town. And also it is in. Right. Shelburne falls me see. I guess it's going to be and, and South Carolina. All right. So, they're asking for $1,000 and expect to serve about 140 folks collectively. We scored this as a 2.29. And there were some comments about it as far as one person said it's in Belcher town. Someone else is very good someone else said not sure about the translation component but the workshops are excellent and appreciate the accessibility comment. This is a project where they're going to translate out of print and out of print Danish weaving book. I won't even try to pronounce it. You can read it because I will mangle it and it encompasses translating formatting and digitally uploading a companion guide to this out of print book and it showcases historic textiles from Denmark. The book will be shared online for free and include included in the fabric of life's growing digital collection. They're intending to continue running multiple sessions of the fiber workshop series, which is open to self identified queer people from across Western Massachusetts who are fiber curious. I will be leading lessons about weaving and overall hosting a space for the creation analysis and exploration of fiber during the workshops. They'll be creating fiber art through weaving embroidery sewing as well as drawing and painting to conceptualize project ideas. So would anyone like to champion this grant. I actually would I, I'm the person who said I'm not sure about the translation component in terms of what we typically do, but I just love, I mean I love the fact that it's a, you know, diverse art form. I would love to fully fund it to kind of recognize and celebrate the accessibility piece here. You know she talks about being somebody who lives with chronic pain and you know just that focus on underserved population. So, I realize it's a fairly large ask and it's not the biggest group, etc. There's reasons not to fully fund it, but I think in terms of the spirit of what we're doing and trying to have a diverse range of media and performances. I think this is one that I, you know, that I would fight for as we get closer to the, you know, to those kind of final decision phases. Yeah, and they are applying to five other LCCs. They're not asking us anywhere near the full budget. And it is again, something that somebody can participate in, you know, and I like the component of translating, you know, the outer print book to I don't know about fully funding though that's that seems like a big ask. And what the number served was 140 is that right 140. I guess it's kind of hard just to understand there, you know, as far as is it 140 people in the workshops or that seems like a lot of people in the workshops maybe. I mean, even if only 140 people read this book I also think there is something to be said for, you know, although I don't know that we do this kind of translation funding. It is neat to be a part of something that you know that will literally introduce a new book to a new audience of folks who wouldn't see it otherwise, you know what I mean. I would think we would fund something like this I don't think it's not just translation it's it's a bit right more than that. So, the interactive piece. Yep. I have the same questions I had last year, when they applied. I don't is, well and more is this also a workshop and there's the workshop, only for people who are queer identified. And if it is a way allowed to do that. And is the barn accessible. And I can't find a contact number or email or any way to contact the bond theater. They didn't used to have accessible bathrooms that I know. And they were working on upgrading but I'm not quite sure what happened so, and this comes up again with at least one other grant application is that building accessible. And I guess last year we spent quite a bit of time talking about that while it's the, the community that they're going to do the outreach to and encouraging to participate is very specific. I think we came to the conclusion that we didn't think that, you know, they would turn folks away who don't meet that criteria, but that it would provide folks a safe and nurturing space to join as a community. We're, we're, you know, they know that they'll be accepted so I think we were right last year and when we came around to saying that that that did not exclude them but I'd open up to anyone else who wants to add to that. Do we know if the barn theater is accessible or just anyone who had a contact. I don't know that, you know, building it's our best use of time right at the moment to make sure, you know, what was the accessibility comment that you made Matt. If you're granted the grantee, I guess. No, no, there were several in the budget. There was to make it more. Improving the lighting for the crafting, which I can imagine is an issue for weavers and adjustable weaving bench so that everybody who comes can view it safely. Then she had an accessibility. The statement this access statement. I will include a ramp that can be placed. I mean this is all right in the book. Okay, yeah, yeah, he says there's a ramp that will be placed at the entranceway of the barn on request as somebody navigating chronic pain I realized the importance of. So I mean, you know, I felt like this just represented sort of a real strong attempt I mean I, you know, I get that I do get concerned about the barn but I think she's being as thoughtful as she can about that. With that, because I think that does indicate that it meets criteria if not in some ways exceeding it. Would we all be okay with with putting down 850 for now. I don't know if we'll truly have that much. So we're at time to thank you. All right, so moving on. The next is the pioneer pioneer Valley Symphony is presenting the mysteries of the missing music, April 13 at Greenfield High School Auditorium. And they are asking very reasonably for $350 and expect to serve 1050 people. So, overall, we scored, we scored this as a 2.072. And this is now going on for 29 years. They've provided a free six week music program to third and fourth grade classes in the region. The programs designed for educators and students and the curriculum packages are delivered to schools including a workbook for each child. And the musicians visit the classroom to teach students about their instruments and prepare students for a live concert experience. This year. It's the mysteries of the missing music and which was created by a composer Jordan Kuspa specifically for pioneer pioneer Valley Symphony, and it will be performed. Oh, it was performed virtually during the shutdown in 2020 to ensure accessibility. They're going to provide materials and digital and print formats and distribute a video of the concert to be freely streamed by classrooms and families. So comments here were, it really doesn't provide much benefit to Amherst, particularly, and that the GPS is specific. It's small support for Amherst home school. So, I will open up the conversation there. That was my comment about, I mean, this is a great program, but it's, it's for Greenfield public schools. And I felt like the Amherst home school thing was maybe a little bit of a throwaway like I, I'm not sure that they're actually that have access to those homeschooling families and actually recruiting them. So, you know, I mean, I'm all for Greenfield kids, but I just don't see, we have our own school system with our own, you know, comfortable number of students in it. It's just hard for me to see this as being within our, I might be missing something about the structure of it, but I don't see it as being within our group. You know, that's, that's kind of my thought as well and really when you, when you look at the number of requests we have from, from our school system. It's, it's hard to justify that the community benefit is specifically there more so than it than it is, you know, for when when our schools apply to us, you know, there's, you know, no doubt then. So, I'd be fine with saying it doesn't meet meet our criteria. It's a little sad because, you know, it's, it's nice stuff, but it's, it's, I don't see, you know, a clear path to how this is benefiting Amherst kids the same way. Okay. Next. John, John Root has two back to back grants, and he can only have one. There's mushrooms of the Northeast. And there's also edible perennial gardening and landscaping ones at the emmer senior center ones at the Jones library. He's asking for 400 for the senior center event and 500 for the Jones library event. I, before going into these, I would suggest with the number of senior center grants that we're already considering that that we don't deliberate that one, and just go straight to to the other one. If for some reason we decide that we are we're not funding the Jones library one we can revisit the other all agreed. Thank you. Okay, so let's talk about edible edible perennial gardening and landscaping, which is a science cultural presentation. This one was scored. Did I think I skipped over one but let's stick with this because we're here we scored this as a two. And it serves about 30 people this is a 90 minute PowerPoint presentation describing the woody and herbaceous perennials that provide edible fruit not shoots foliage and roots and our handy in our region. Participants will learn how to transition from honor weeds to mulch beds where these trees shrubs and herbaceous perennials can be established with minimum competition from weeds and unwanted vegetation. So an added benefit of this is not only can you learn about something but you can feed a family. So I would champion supporting this. I was right, it's pretty pretty unique for us to you. Yeah. Would everyone support fully fully funding this one if possible, or yeah. All right. I do, Julian. Great. Thank you. All right, so I'm going to go back to the Porter Phelps Huntington Foundation and their Wednesday folk traditions for 2023. This occurs Wednesday evenings, June and July at the museum in Hadley they are asking for $1,500 they expect to serve around 2000 folks. Collectively, we scored this is a 2.5 doesn't surprise me this is, you know, a strong, ongoing well supported event. So, one comment here was. Sorry, I'm in the wrong one. No, there were, there were no, no comments other than someone said that admission is $12. So, the Porter Phelps Huntington Museum will present the 42nd season of this Wednesday folk traditions concerts during June and July. Seven folk music performances performers are selected from the region's rich mix of ethnic folk music ensembles. They have established reputations in the wider music field. The concerts are designed to highlight the region's heritage and to introduce the cultures of various ethnic groups to residents of Hadley and the greater Pioneer Valley area. It's performed in the sunken garden, which is chosen for its accessibility and ADA facilities are provided. And they hope to attract families by providing reduced admission for for youth. And I, I believe it also goes to support the upkeep of the museum. I don't know if anyone can speak to that. So we do have quite a bit of music. I do believe that, you know, in its 42nd season that yes truly Amherst residents do frequent and enjoy and it's, you know, many performances. I don't know that we have the full 1500 though. Anyone like the comment? Yes, Robin. I support. As you know, funding it as much as we can. Above 50%. Yeah. It does. They really are hurting. And whatever funding they get, definitely helps them. And it's a great program. And people do go to it. Yeah. Yeah, I think as far as full funding of music, you know, we're really up against it. It's a lot of music, but hey, I guess that's because people like music. So would everyone be in line with putting down $1200 for this and seeing where we end up. Thank you. The next is self evident education, the power of truths and art education. It would be March 24th to the 25th at the bomb center for the arts and equity in Florence. They're asking for $1,500 and expect to serve 500 people. Collectively, we scored this as 1.8. So there are, you know, clearly some reservations here. Folks are citing in the comments that, okay, it's in Florence. So it's out of the way. It's a great grant. Worry about the feasibility of finding even 50 Amherst residents to fulfill the proposed use of funds. So this is a conference and it's being organized for March, April. It's an inaugural conference June of this year. Part educational conference part arts festival part homage to the long and powerful history of social and anti racist activism of western Massachusetts. They're thinking to bring diverse peoples together. Their guiding principle is that art and education can push conversations about multiple truths and about the power of those truths can help us to build better and more a more liberated future. So they've chosen Florence, Massachusetts as the location because of the history of abolitionists and feminist activism and their hope is that the event will grow and be able to reach more people from more communities. So I guess they're speaking to our, our regional guideline that we added this year. So, is there anyone who would like to champion this event. Right. I'll just chime in. I was the one who made the comment about the attendance numbers I. I think this is, you know, a low partial for us just because of the distance from from town and me ever says doing a lot of work in this area so I think we should, we should support it. One second, but probably on the low partial side is my feeling. I would agree. And they did apply to two other councils, North Hampton and East Hampton. And they said that as far as, you know, if they're not fully funded. I should know where this is on these things by now. Budget. They basically said that if they're not fully funded they'll expand the list of local businesses foundations and individual donors from who we're seeking funding. Okay, that sounds like a good idea. So, how low a low partial were you thinking of, I mean, I do think it's important to to provide some support. I don't think it's, it's a, you know, outside of our guidelines. No, no, it's definitely not outside the guidelines. I just, I think the fees, like I said, the feasibility of getting the attendance question I think is a big one for me. I'd say 25 30%. So, I was thinking more like, I don't know, 300. That's 20%. Right. The reason about the budget doesn't make a lot of sense. So I'm not sure if it doesn't make sense, or they didn't understand. Yeah, I mean, appearance fees, I wonder how many people are included in the 15,000 admin tasks 1000 space and equipment rental 8,000. I don't know it $2,000 worth of fires advertisements and we can't even touch the 4,000 for food and hospitality. But what they already have from 2022, they have 11,500 and 16,500. I apologize. I mean, your dogs and my kids, I'm going to work our way through this. At least your kids are cute. That wasn't cute. My kid is actually asking, he wants to know the names of your dogs. Oh, that's Otto and Fuji Apple. Otto and Fuji Apple. Good name. Because Otto's an Ottoman. Moving on. Not even clear what they're. That's one of the reasons I'm saying around, you know, 300 because the budget is, is huge. And I would need a lot more detail to understand, you know, that large of a budget. Is there anyone that feels 300 is excessive here. Okay. And then with that, I think we can, we can move on. Agreed. Great. Thank you. Next grantee is the seminar's concert. It's their 55th anniversary season, July, August of 2023. It's at the Worthington, Massachusetts and your town virtually. And they're asking us for $1,000. And this is something that to be clear, we declined last year for not having enough community benefit. It was only sorted to 1.14. And this, this group, as I recall, I think they're out of around New York City. So they're, they're, they're not local. They come to the area. But there's little here that suggests that, you know, Amherst is really going to, to have much benefit from it. So is there anyone who does believe that we should that it meets our guidelines. No, I think it meets our guidelines. I just, I think it's another one of these, you know, kind of commercial ventures that says if a community doesn't have what we're offering, you know, here's something that it probably is pretty high quality. I just, again, I think, you know, it's the sort of thing that doesn't have the local impact that funding a local artist or local organization would do. I would, I would fully, fully agree, which to me means there's just not enough community benefit and so are we all okay to, to deny this one. Thank you. The next is it's again at the barn theater and studios. This is the silver thorn theater company performing born with teeth, a theater Thursday's reading that will occur May 11 2023. They are asking us for $1,500 and expect to serve 60 people. And this is, I'm sorry, I think I skipped over one again but let's stick with it. We, this was a 1.9 so there were some reservations about it. And they're suggesting that this will, sorry. Back. I know where I was now. Okay, so the comments around this were that it were in Belcher town. One person said it's great organization and proposal but would love to support but it's a large ask for the projected numbers served and another person said yeah large, large ask but great group small audience. So this theater company has presented an annual series of theater Thursday play readings. These are free stage readings and they're focused on playwrights local to Western Massachusetts. Their voices are underrepresented and theatrical production. And this year they're producing theater Thursdays in Hampshire Hampton and Franklin counties as they work to create more access to free and affordable theater for everyone in Western math. So, born with teeth is by local playwright Liz Duffy Adams, and it's a dynamic to character historical fantasy that explores the relationship between William Shakespeare and kit Marlowe it's funny thrilling little heartbreaking and we're delighted to feature it. The event will feature a post show discussion with the playwright and director and audience. And with that. Yes. So I just want to chime in. In terms of the regional benefit and sort of encouraging regional collaborations. I've seen a few of the things they put on the silver thorn up in Greenfield and it's a really fabulous group really high quality stuff and the sort of thing that I think Amherst doesn't have a ton of, you know, theatrical elements that go on in town and I realize it's Belcher town and not Amherst but again it's a it's a pretty quick drive from downtown. And I was also the one that said that 60 is kind of a small number serve. But that being said I would like to do, you know, 50% plus on this, just to indicate support for bringing a group like that which is, they're not some kind of, you know, huge, hugely funded group they're professional level but it's bootstrap kind of a group. I would love to bring them down into, you know, this sort of lower valley type area I think it's really good work. And yeah, I think it's great although I do want to say as far as how much we're going to fund they did apply to Belcher town, Pellum Palmer Ludlow and New Salem. And that puts it at six LCCs that they they applied to. I don't, they don't know that we should really go the full, the full half here from that perspective. Because they're asking us for 1500 out of 1850 so that that doesn't quite add up to me if they're getting grants coming in from other folks but I'd like to, you know, strongly support this. I think half might might be, you know, more in line considering if we put in, you know, 750, hopefully five other LCCs will put something in. That makes sense to me. Yeah, yeah, Robin. I also support supporting it. As long as the barn is fully accessible. Which, I'm not sure that it is. And that this is a great opportunity and you've never been to stage readings. It's, it's really, it's a very different experience and you get to talk to the people involved in producing the play and it's, I think it's great. And from what I hear this is a great group, just Yeah, how much. Yeah, and the accessibility possible. Yeah, is there anyone who's not okay with with 750 given you know that it. We would expect the other LCCs to put in. I did the I just did the math by dividing by six and because it's for what 60 people. Mm hmm. Yeah, so I mean I'm fine with what you all have said but I think that I'm just in the interest of having applied and I guess one question is we amers usually has more money than other LCCs to grant. Right. So that's, that's a consideration to self I'll find with what you know the majority of the group wants to do in this case. I think it's it's unique in that you know it is it's not just from this point of view. It's going and experiencing and you know being in the audience and discussion but it's also that this is a local playwright, you know, and and their work is is being presented, you know, and I think they make a good point about there are play that we should celebrate from our area that could lead to more long term, you know cultural benefits so if no one's opposed I'll I'll leave it at the 750 and and you know hopefully we have had that much to put towards it. But we might have to adjust it. Any other comments. Cody do you have your hand up. No. Okay. So, I need to go back one, which is, we have the grant from usufa CD Bay, and this is his virtual live African music workshops. He's planning for it to occur from January 1 to February 28 and to air it on Amherst Community television. He's asking for $2,400 and expects to serve 20,000 folks. Any other comments here are poor track record. Another person said, they would would have encouraged them to apply to other places. Another person said, there, there have been years of grant applications and no offense have occurred and it's not confirmed by Amherst media. I guess, again, so I'm going to go back to before I get into this just, is there anyone who believes that this really truly meets our guidelines and based on on past track track record is something that we should support. Any comments. I'll just, I'll just speak because you know I think you're being diplomatic. I think you're being tactful but this this grant he has given has been very challenging to work with and we've really extended, you know, 10s of hours of time corresponding with him trying to support these projects because he's you know he's a very talented artist and he's made great proposals the past couple years but we haven't seen any execution so I can't support funding for this. Sadly, I would have really like to have seen this come together. Especially that one direct granting model. Look at their cute face. Yeah, I think with the direct granting model, you know, and the track record there's really no way to be able to to, you know, even partially fund this with any expectation that anything would occur so. Okay. Let's see if I can actually manage to go in order anytime here soon. The next one is society to benefit everyone incorporated. And it's called news from tomorrow morning it's a pilot for September of 2023, and it would be on community TV, YouTube and at the Jones library they're asking us for $1,730 and expect to serve 5,000 people. We scored this at a 1.43. There were certainly some some concerns here. So we have comments of no resumes or web links very much in development, maybe a small grant to support the idea and see if they're motivated to get it up and running. So, in this in the style of typical mainstream newscasts news from tomorrow morning broadcast news reports of inspiring trends and events that haven't happened yet. We're just beginning the stories are presented in the present time, like the summary, as though from a future reality with interviews field reports and discussions to create both for the viewer and for the featured nonprofits and entrepreneurs of vivid experience of brighter futures in the here now. Somebody say it for me sir bontes wrote when we dream together it is the beginning of reality. Each episode is presented on the community television and in the public libraries, the in person presentations feature q amp a with artists and featured nonprofits and entrepreneurs and artists also invite audience members to share their own dreams and visions for the future. It's the proposed project is created 30 minute pilot episode of nurturing visions. So, I agree with the with the comment of it being really not supported without resumes web links and and but it's it's an intriguing idea when I'm like to champion this one. I'm kind of looking through to see if we have any kind of. Is there nothing from the Jones library. Julian my note was, this is similar to last year the reparations group. They wanted to do a big, they had a big documentary proposal around the work they've been doing and again it was, you know, a multimedia thing, pretty ambitious and scope. So I'm a grant to, I think indicate support and sort of, you know, it wasn't a deceive money development grant intended that way but it's they want to be using it that way and, you know, I think this is a really cool vision and really cool idea but given, you know, the reason that it is and how few supporting materials I see I think, you know, a small grant to just sort of give them maybe a little, a little support and then sort of a kick you off kind of idea, because there's a lot of community benefit here. If they can pull it off I just, yeah, I don't yeah. I'm a little concerned looking at the budget the entire budget is three artists and $6,300 for three people without planning out any any other expenses, and that's, you know, $2,100 per person. So that's really problematic. In my perspective and I know it takes a lot of time to make a 30 minute pilot but as far as community benefit I don't I don't see how we could, you know, really, you know, put very much towards this they did. They are kind of casting a wide net. I'd say this is a dozen to 15 different councils that they're applying to. I'm actually looking at this from the point of view of, you know, with the direct granting model. I'm really cautious about whether there's there's public benefit or whether this anything would happen with this at all. So, I'd consider not not funding it actually as cool as it sounds I just really don't have much confidence in it. Sadly, anyone else have any comments. I hear those concerns I think those are definitely valid concerns. We would want to think through. I think just think we would need to really think through which guidelines are on meeting when we decline. Well, they don't really have a date or a location other than YouTube. I mean I guess at the end of the day we can always just say that it doesn't have as much community benefit as other applications and that is a valid reason. I definitely take your points. I just think a little bit of support money to see if that'll help them get off the ground will be helpful. I mean if folks feel strongly I can be swayed but I also feel as far as like reading through this and having you know gone through several of these for several years. That that the likelihood of anything like what they're even describing coming to pass if anything is it seems. I'm just I'm lack confidence and you know there's really nothing other than them saying hey we're going to do this and we want $2100 for each one of us and there are three of us. Am I being harsh. I just just quickly I had in my notes to give them a little bit. Not so much. I don't think I was thinking along the same lines as that but but I think it could turn out to be the same way I was just thinking that if we wanted to support it I would just give them a small amount and say it's for supporting accessibility. We don't, we don't really get to specify what they what they use it for. Okay, then, you know, whatever. They are applying to 24 LCCs. We have five seconds left. Yeah, this round, but go ahead. How about I put in for for $100 and we can come back to it in the voting meeting, sir. That that's a 24 LCCs that's around $75 each so it's a little bit more than that, but okay. Thank you. The next is special needs advocacy network. And their project is outcomes it would be from January to June of 2023 it's virtual and they are asking for $500 we scored this at a 1.4. And so there's some some concerns we did not decline this last year. It's a well established advocacy organization if they're moving towards more of a creative lens it would be good to see some evidence of that and in their efforts to advance somebody else commented virtual NFTs competition so this group is focusing on efforts called outcome it's the definition is outcome is something that follows as a result of consequence. And they're trying to prepare children for the future of independent living employment with a further education. And basically, they are saying that they're going to use art to celebrate culture of those with disabilities by showcasing the aspirations of children with disabilities three to 12. And that that they're 242 of them that have been identified in our town and through social outreach, they'd be invited to put a piece of digital artwork representing their vision, and all submissions will be showcased in an online gallery. So, again, I think this is this is one of these that's going out to, you know, just about every LCC. And I personally am concerned that I don't I don't think they've actually they actually have the connection, you know, with the community, specifically to work with our community. So I'll open it up to folks for comment I was fine with denying it last year and I would deny it again this year. Yes, Rachel. Sorry, I think I must be looking at the wrong spreadsheet because on the one I have we scored a three for this. Am I can somebody please correct me because we're looking at item 72 right on the spreadsheet. Mm hmm. You must have the wrong one because it's a 1.43. It's 71. Oh yeah. The numbers, the numbers on the spreadsheet don't line up with the numbers on the pamphlet 70 or the panel sheet. Okay, got it. Okay, thank you. Sorry. Is there anyone who believes this fully meets our guidelines and I think and provides enough community benefit I think it's. I think Matt, you shared quite a bit about this last year as far as you know there are there are other types of funding that are more appropriate for this. Yeah, that's right and I, you know, that being said, they are important organization and do good work and so. But again, it's a it's a big ambitious ask. And I think if they're going to enter into more creative creative sphere. That's the kind of thing that an organization, you know the size and this kind of work. You know, we, I mean I was the one who said like I'd like to see what some of the efforts are towards creativity beyond sort of funding requests you know. Yeah, and I'm, it's basically saying that hey if you give us $500 this will enable the 242 children with disabilities and their families in your community to celebrate their unique culture through art. So it strikes me as as a bit strange. And I don't think there's any real nexus with with our community I think they're just asking every community to participate. The community benefit piece yet it's important work but how is it going to happen if they don't have any support from our community to begin with. Yeah, I don't think that inviting, you know, basically they would send a letter to the school district and say, you know, hey please pass this along to the kids with disabilities if they want to give us some art will show in case it in our online gallery I that that to me does not really feel like a local benefit. No, I would agree is there. Are we all agreed that there's not enough local benefit for this. Thank you. Okay, so now we'll do 72 and yes this was well supported the number I have for this was a 2.57 for starlight use theater presentation of Matilda that happened in April of 2023 at Amherst Middle School. They are asking very reasonably for $700 that would expect 300 people to be served with this. So, the comments here were that there's a $300 participation cost, and another person said should should this maybe be funded by the school or another entity. I can speak to that quickly it's it's I believe they're renting Amherst Middle School to present this so it's not really it's not school sponsored or anything like that. That's just their their space so they'll be presenting the musical Matilda and it's a cast of third to sixth grade students and are excited to participate and show their work to family friends and the community so this is an independent organization that provides the opportunity for kids to perform musical theater. So, I would say I believe on this, you know, I grew up in a community that didn't didn't really have many, many things like this, and you know, years in the New York City area, you know, or my one of my daughters was able to do stuff but like the George theater and Rutgers and stuff but a lot of communities don't have a lot of opportunities like that so I think this is a great group with a great track record and I'd like to fully support them if we can. I'd support that to fully supporting. Any further discussion if so let's just hope we have have much to do it. Okay. Thank you. I just want to thank you all we're at we're at seven o'clock. So we're two thirds of the way through here and we're making, you know, really really great progress tonight. Next up we have Paul sticker. This is his strong house concert acoustica for summer of 2023. It would be performed at the emersed historical society strong house he is asking for $750 and expects it to serve 100 people. This was scored at a 2.4 and the comments. Over one person said it, we should confirm that this is not also funded as part of the strings at strong grant I think it's different. So, the description is, this is someone who's passionate about promoting artistic original music inspired events. So we're going to do the acoustic band performed a concert at strong house for the public which was really successful. They'd love to have the opportunity to perform there again and increase the awareness of the performance via original music and would greatly appreciate your support to do so. The project includes performance by the acoustic a band in the Americana music format, which generally span rock country blues folk and it will be heavily involved in. Oh, Paul will be heavily involved in promoting and publicizing the event very the various media outlets and we'll work with the venue contact Liz Larson to ensure the event is successful and have a letter of support. So, yeah, it's it's more music but it is a different style of music and it is right here in in emersed and supports local performers. Does anyone know how many musicians are in the band here. So I saw him play at this last year, which we funded and I think it's sort of it's the fall stick of show you know he gets he gets a group of you know five or six musicians and they play sort of, you know, classic rock type stuff strings but it you know it's great and he's he's very easy to work with. He does what he says he's going to do he gets the stuff in on time. It's not chamber music, you know it's not coral. You know, it's not like the most earth shattering thing in the world but I do think it's a nice piece of the, you know cultural tapestry that were that were trying to support. My only reservation the fully funding it is just that music we have to look at, you know, music but it sounds great. I guess the other question to me related to something I think maybe I forget who raised it is like, does this follow the category of same venue for multiple things performances or because it's a different type of event. This is fair, this is fair as far as you're right an app an applicant can only apply once but I got a I got a hand to the historical society that I think you know we should throw our support behind. They don't they don't have nearly as many grantees. Getting their location as some other locations we've been discussing so it's totally fair as Paul's applying for this grant versus the historical society applied for that the strings of the strong so that that's, that's fine and you know a net net benefit of this is when these events occur, it does, you know, offer an opportunity for people to experience the historical society, and also hopefully donate, you know, to to their work, which we'd like to have. You know, so I could leave it at the 750 or we can we can nudge it down now because of anticipating meeting to adjust for for musical performances. I would be okay leaving it 750 if that's not too much of a. Okay. Any other comments. Great. Okay, next, we have. Catherine striker who is applying for for want of a nail. And this would be summer 2023 onwards at the North Amherst library. They're requesting $2,000 and expect to serve 1000 people. This was scored. And they're noting that the North Amherst library extension is being built on a site of an old black blacksmiths shop. And that there are old iron horseshoes nails and other hand forged items that have been dug up from the site and they show the skill and craft of the blacksmiths from long ago, and are an interesting gateway into the industrial area that was known as the dirty hands district. And they're proposing an exhibition and sculpture at the North Amherst library extension to attract attention to the vital role of the horse in agricultural and early early industrial communities. So the sculpture would be of a horse's head made from iron pieces and would be placed in the garden. And there would be an exhibit highlighting the universal skill of the blacksmith, the centrality of the shop in the village, and the history of the horse through time. And these old horseshoes are a special legacy from our forgotten silent partners in the physical labor through the ages. So comments where it's a great idea. We wish that, you know, we already had the artists lined up. Someone said potential model for accessibility. Another person said I think it's is it lacking a letter of confirmation and it's a large ask but it sounds cool but also not sure it would would happen. There's no date. So would anyone like to champion this fascinating grant. I think this is really cool. It's a it's a big ass. So I think I would not go down for all of it, but I think it's very cool unique and historical. To be clear there's $1,000 in the budget for exhibition materials cost and preserving of horseshoes and another $1,000 for the blacksmith to weld the sculpture. Just opening up the PDF. What do you do I just want to say that she, she does seem to be a pretty impressive person just in terms of like her equestrian accomplishments and such. I'm, I'm very much, you know, with all in all in terms of. I mean I love the vision for this I was the one who I wish that artists have been lined up but you know we I know Camille Peters of course is somebody that comes to mind is as somebody local who's done a really great ironwork in town for for the Drake and for the, the Emily and Robert Frost statue so he certainly comes to mind. But but but that being said, I think it's awesome, awesome grant and I, I actually would, you know, are just explicitly named. I would trust that she could find, you know somebody to do the to do the metal work and I think she has a vision and an energy for towards this that I think is going to have, you know, talk about feasibility. So, the one big piece I think that's missing is any kind of letter of support. Like, will this have a home, you know, will as public art is it is it guaranteed. I actually voted to fully support this and then like as we were talking I said oh I don't remember seeing whether that has been approved in principle or not. Because that would be right because if it's a public installation then some kind of verification or documentation right probably would be married it. I love the idea to I don't know what we want to do in terms of amount to fund or to fund. I mean given what you just raised. That's, you know, that is a valid point. I'm sorry. That is a valid point. I mean it's a public space and she hasn't confirmed the support of the of the space. I don't know. It's such a cool idea I cannot imagine. You know, the North Amherst library not wanting to support this but you know, by rights she really should have secured their support. Is that something we collectively feel strongly enough about to ask in this case. I would personally I would, I think, you know, I think it's, it's such a great public benefit. You know it's the kind of thing that we really do want to stand behind. I think it's worth asking reaching out to her and asking if she's secured that support and if she can do so before next Wednesday. Yeah. With that, you know, I really doubt that we can put $2,000 towards it cool as it is. I mean, the strength of it is really great but I think $1,000 would be a lot of money to put towards it. But it, you know, I understand that creating this, you know, is going to cost. You know, tend to leave it on on the budget here and plan for it and hope we have this support but you know, does anyone think that we're able to do more than 1000. Does anyone think that 1000 is out of reach. I will leave it at 1000 and then let's let's hope we can get confirmation. Next, the survival center here in Amherst is planning their tunes at noon music, which occurs from January through December of 2023 it's always the third Friday of every month, and they are asking us for $1,200 to serve 700 folks. We scored this really high at a 2.86 almost 2.9 and they there's as far as comments. One person was concerned that it's awesome but maybe open to the public for a bit more and another person said it's a large ask but an important community. This tunes at noon program highlights their commitment to feeding the whole person so once a month professional musicians perform a mix of genres during their free community lunch. And that is for 50 to 100 people of all ages who gather for lunch and those that are waiting for the food pantry and they get 60 minute sets in the main dining hall. And they had to pause this indoor activity during the pandemic and in September they were able to reopen the dining room and resume with a full schedule of programs. Recently, while they played music during a program of participants started dancing. She shared that when she hears music she feels fully ease and they returned to live performances and they look forward to everyone feeling at ease at the Amherst survival center series of 12 concerts. And it makes live music accessible to people in a dignified way and the musicians also appreciate the non traditional audience speaking to the impact that that had on them as well. I'll say that I would champion fully funding this any any comments. I would too. I would three. Any other comments. Thank you. Okay, next we have Joshua Swift. His grant is for developing site specific dance live and installation. It would occur March through October and performances would occur September through October three to six total live performances that would be at the barn studio, the barn and studio. They are asking for $600 and this was scored at a 1.6 it's supposed to serve about 130 people but clearly there there were some concerns here. It's one person said Belcher town and it is dance another person said it's original work. But dates and locations are like it's an issue. Another person says small grant to encourage further development. So this grantee plans to develop a site specific dance piece at the barn theater and studio. The project will be developed outdoors and rehearsed. Rehearsals will be filmed to capture the footage needed to create a video representation of the product project for wider audiences to view. It will take inspiration from the effects of climate change that that it's having on our region and how to stay grounded and in relationship with the land and those affected. The piece will be built with choreography dance scores improvisation and collab and a collaborative process and they will create a work in progress video of the piece to be shown at a public location in Belcher town Amherst and surrounding areas and hold several live performances of the work in progress on site. So is there someone who would like to champion this grant. Yes Robin. As long as the accessibility issues of the site, although it sounds like it's going to be outside but anyway, aren't an issue. I think this is awesome, even though it's in Belcher town. This is a disabled dancer. Helping and choreographing dance and other people get to participate in that see how he does that the dancers be. I mean, I think it's just cover so much. We don't otherwise cover and that it's, it's not a lot of money. I think it's really applied to other grant LCC's for grants with most, most of it coming from Belcher town and Amherst, which, you know, again, Belcher town as far as being the you know the neighboring town I think people really do, you know, access arts and culture there. Yeah, I'd support fully funding it if we have it. I really like this. Great. Any other comments. All right, moving on to the next. We have. Sorry, I want to look at this one in the book because it should be a person on named on this primary contract. Amy S. Galinas is applying for the guy a roots interactive world music concert and workshop to occur at Amherst regional high. So, this one is scored high at a 2.79 and they expect to to serve 500 people. So this would be in the spring of 2023. They are asking for $1,000. Just a minute. The description of this is that the world music drum and song ensemble guy roots will hold an interactive workshop and concert event featuring traditional West African and Caribbean drum song and stories in collaboration with the special Ed department at Amherst high. And it will be free to the Amherst community guy who's teaches and performs traditional drum and percussion rhythms from the Caribbean West Africa and beyond blended with traditional songs harmonies folk work dance and storytelling. So comments here where it's not a local applicant does that matter. So it provides community benefit. Another person said, open to the broader community. And I guess we often consider the events of occurring in the public school because it's, you know, as applicable to being, you know, the public, but I understand, you know, some some concern there. So, is there anyone who would like to to champion this, this grant, I'll say, you know, we really would like to do some African drumming type stuff and I do believe that this is an event that will occur and and and be successful. It would be nice if more people could potentially be involved. It does say the target audience includes local community but I'm, you know, not sure how that would work if it's happening during the school day. Sometimes they open these events to the public. Yeah, I mean, I, right, I thought that was maybe more of a stretch but I, that being said, you know, it's, as you said African dance world music drum and song. And a great thing to bring to the to the kids. So I fully support both on me. It does say the local community will be invited. I'd like to see, you know, okay, there is a letter of support. So, yeah, I think there's a. It says open to all students, teachers, staff, local community music department. So I think it's been. I'm not sure if it's an exact date but I can't open the additional. I'm just saying that they'd like to invite guy I'm looking at the letter that they'd like to invite guy or is to perform and do workshops with their students. At the moment they have a 40 minute block at the end of the school day. I understand that because my, my son's a sophomore so they, they, it's not a problem to be able to do this, you know, they can find a mutually agreeable happen. So, Yeah, I think it thousands a lot. Let me just look at what they said as far as if they don't get the full amount. I don't entirely understand how their comment that if they're not fully funded that they would do. Oh, they would have fewer performance artists or the program may be shorter. Again, I don't know how many stipends are supported with the $900 necessarily but should we go ahead and leave this at 1000 and we'll probably have to end up adjusting things, or should we go with a slightly lower number to start. I support fully funding as well. Yeah, I'd like to. Okay, the next is Amherst ballet, and this is the young choreographers choreographer showcase. And it runs starting mid December 2022 so it's underway, and they're asking for $500 and it supports 25 students. Amherst ballet is holding its second annual young choreographer showcase, which puts the tools of creativity in the students hands empowering their agency artistry and self expression. The dance pieces will be developed over several weeks culminating in an in studio performance over the course of several days at Amherst ballet studio. And the one comment here was that they don't think that costumes and props are actually necessary that must be in in the budget sites here that the entire ask is is for costuming and props. So, with that, I will open it up to comments and I have I've actually come to the end of my term with Amherst ballet and being on their board so I'm no longer on their board but I will, I will not make any comments because I'm a huge supporter of Madeleine bond. So, but I will leave it to all of you to discuss. So who would like to start. I was the one who left that comment and I think I would actually like walk it back a bit or I didn't I wouldn't take as strong of a stance on that. I think that I. I don't know I just I wasn't seeing it as like completely necessary to their programming but I mean I think that if we had the funds like seems like a perfectly reasonable and good thing to support so yeah. Thank you. Thank you so much for coming in front of me but this feels like a much smaller grant requests from Amherst ballet than previous years and normally I guess I would say over 2000 or so. So I guess I would say I sort of appreciate that or I'm intrigued intrigued by that and I'd also say that you know, they were probably the, they were the first and most prominently displayed of our showcase videos, and, you know, maybe this reflects. Maybe they're having a good fundraising year, or maybe they're very appreciative of the video. But I, you know, I would certainly say in terms of community institutions is really important institution in Amherst and I would, I would absolutely fully put this, you know, with no questions about it. Any other comments. Just that when push comes to shove, is this one of the ones that we would consider lowering from fully funding some of the discussion or not. Anyone else like to speak to that since I'm not speaking. Yes, Robin. I think it's extremely low ask. I even commented personally that I thought they should rest for more. I mean, there's a young choreographer showcase I mean what could be more of trying to develop kids to become artists. I mean, Alright, I'm not, I'm not supposed to be commenting, but I'm going to, which is the nuance here is that this is something that's in addition to other, you know, annual performances, and it is, you know, participatory and giving, you know, putting, putting the creative process in the kids hands. So, you can all strike that that I ever said that but yeah. Well, that's what I was trying to say basically I think this is exactly what I want to have happen is kids becoming artists or appreciating art or being participating in art or creating it. Yeah, I mean, it's everything that I hope kids do and I think we should support so do the level we have to strike what you say. Well, I've been on the on the board so I'd much rather that the support of this isn't you know I'm not pushing it through I'm not on the board now but you know, I see I see thank you. Thank you. Are we good to move on. Thank you. All right, just a quick time chat we are at 726 so I think we can get one possibly one more through and what we have here. I don't know it's a it's a really large one so maybe maybe we want a table that we have. What is it one, two, three, four, six, seven, eight, nine, 10, 11. Oh, we've got quite a few more to go through let's. It's just that the next two are once for the Drake and once for the Emily Dickinson Museum those are both 2,500 we also at some point need to go back and do gallery a three they're grant because we didn't have a quorum when we got to that one that's another big one that's out there. So, in the time we have I don't really think that it would be effective to discuss, you know, these rather large grants. So, I think I'll conclude, you know, reviewing and deliberating the grants now and are there any other things that folks need to raise or discuss or just general topics for the last few minutes here. And thank you all I think we're making great progress. Is it okay for me to ask what Julia's response was to what I raised the other night when I had to go, or is that about it again because it's already been discussed. You can ask you know I won't I won't make you go, you know, watch the whole recording. Yeah, which is basically, you know, from the point of view of appreciating that you'd like to, you know, perhaps do more more frequent, you know, you know, monthly or quarterly type events that that that all sounds great but just from the point of view of setting money aside to do that kind of thing and in 2023. If we don't have a defined don't have partners who are willing to collaborate with us on that that I just feel like we need to swing it what's in front of us. And, and I would fully support putting, you know, all of those funds that we were discussing towards the spring arts and culture event, because we're just not organized to, you know, have an expectation of what those other things would would be so I wouldn't want to pull money away from something that that is going to happen and that, you know, we can support and it will only be better. And lastly that I think you might still have been here as far as I also was saying that these are grant funds that former grantees were not able to take advantage of and I think that it's really equitable for us to put them towards an event like this that spreads the benefit throughout the community. Since those individual artists couldn't couldn't use it now we have a great collective benefit for from the funds from their grants. Okay, that's a degree with wanting to do more things like you said just I actually, I didn't hear any of your response because I had to go right away to take the call from elsewhere so anyway, know what I was just going to say is that if I told you there were potential partners is it too late to be raising them if it's something that all we had to do was invest the money and not do not put our actual work into it and that was something I was going to raise at a future meeting before we put our salary on the final total because of just a conversation, you know if so it is it it's a too late to be raising an idea for this round, if it if it's only involves the council vote in terms of the discretion, the discretionary amount of that of that budget. What, what I would use. Yeah, can you tell us what it is. I haven't, I haven't talked to the people who would want to do this like we haven't sat down to talk about it we've, you know, it's just been floating around is it would be something that would take place the farmers market over the course of the year. So the, I can, I could, I could just, you know, let you know after I have just a conversation with the folks at the meat art museum, who might be because you know they've set up there all summer right they've had their stand if there was something that we could do and just because they would they would provide the labor and the and the and the and the setup and everything else like that which is be a kind of a value add that would give the cultural council exposure is kind of what I was thinking because, you know the people who want to see the cultural council is supporting something that's taking place at the farmers market on a regular basis. So, if you know if it's too late to raise something like this or, you know, because I take Julian's point about money that wasn't used, but because there was no opportunity to raise this because I haven't had any, you know, real discussion about what would happen and what would take place. Right because we're supposed to be next week. Because I you know, like I would have been going to, I'm sure you all go to the farmers market right during the summer and you've seen where the setup is where they have kids doing artwork that the meat does. So if there was something that we could like collaborate with them on going forward but like I said, I did, I thought it was premature to raise it to this group unless until I had a better idea of what might be possible. Do you have an idea of what the financial contribution from us would have to be for that or is that also undefined. I think I think it's probably there's I don't think it's going to be any huge amount as I think it's more along the lines of what might the cultural council be willing to provide. You know, you know, I mean, sometimes it's like, okay, if you give me $100 I could do this if you give me $500 I could do that to see what I mean so there's there's been no discussion whatsoever about actual dollars because we having to talk about what are the possibilities and so that's part of the reason I haven't, I hadn't raised the concept to this group other than you know, of course we've all been doing the grant discussions to so I am going to be speaking with them on Monday. And so if you know if it's too late to bring it up for this round, I understand that but I'm still going to have the conversation and Eleanor that was something I was going to raise with you to afterwards you know like to say hey this might be happening would you be interested in talking a little more so. We're like hiring out the meat or would this be like a partnership or would this be like ACC led. I think it would be ACC supporting what the meat is doing in the community. For example, based at the farmers market. So it's like it's like a town gown thing for them right and it's. And we would be having the cultural councils name attached to this, which is, you know, great, great profile and publicity throughout the whole season that the farmers market is running. I'm just saying that like, this is a public meeting to and you know I feel like I'm speaking a little bit prematurely because I don't know what the meat is able to do or do so I don't want to. It's just a preliminary conversation. And so if that's something we as a council are interested and look at great but you know I mean there there's probably. So so anyway so that's. So I'll give a quick quick response I guess that my two thoughts are, you know if this is if this is something that our name is attached to but it's not our activity. Our activities are required to actually you know attach our name to their to their work it's part of the policy requirement of their final agreement. So I would say that to my two thoughts are if meat is doing something you think we should support, you know, you can encourage them to apply for a grant I mean I think that's sort of the, you know that's sort of the structure that we work within. And there's no harm I don't think in brainstorming activities that that we, you know we put on and we intentionally do and that was our, I don't know if you remember we had a couple of months ago we had a meeting to sort of brainstorm activities we could put on and, you know, I think that would have been a good time to talk about, you know, potential activities that that we would support. And but I understand Rachel that you're still sort of in the exploration phase of the idea. That hadn't come up at that point so yeah. That's it, you know when you said two months ago that hadn't that conversation hadn't come up at that point so it's just so that I'm saying it's conversation late for this round or whatever but let the conversation and let us let us know where it is Monday, you know, I mean, yeah, if, if, if there's just goodwill and no money involved then, you know, great, you know, if it's, if it's small dollars, you know, and there's something that makes sense, but I think we just need to know more and really appreciate you, you know, having a conversation and certainly Eleanor if there's anything that you can do to support during finals which I don't suggest you do anything more than what you're doing. But yeah, let's let's let's find out and you know I I'd still feel strongly about, you know, supporting the spring block party but I don't necessarily see the you know one taking away from the other. Yeah, I think it was like I said it was just one thing that had occurred to me and I was hoping that. Yeah, because I was I am aware at the end of the semester schedule and you know just having the preliminary conversation I'm hoping and I was hoping to be able to report to the group. When, when we have time. All like to see more, more frequent events that are really bringing the community together. And it's exciting that that's something that we can consider, but that that's got to be a meeting agenda topic, you know, January, February and kind of really buckle down and get to some more long term planning around how we want to support the community. Yeah. Um, I was going to say quickly to get back to Rachel at the block party I was talking with the person who was running the need. Little station there and I was talking about like I have a passion for like art and I also have a bunch of experience like teaching kids and stuff and there was kind of early talks about maybe like an internship opportunity in the spring at the Meade Museum doing that kind of work like what they do at the farmers market and obviously like I have I need to reach out with them and like kind of figure that out this is like not confirmed at all because I don't think it was like the main person I think it was like a student working in there. But um, I might have some connections with that and if I end up doing that I could definitely like, I don't know I just might yeah, I thought it was worth saying. Great. So you would be interning there you're saying. Hypothetically but I'd have to like apply for that. Yeah they do take high school students to that's true yeah so anyway like it's just yeah, I do have like background in like art education and stuff. See. Great. Wonderful. Well, we look forward to hearing more and to seeing what what what opportunities we may have and if possible. So thank you so much, Rachel and. Sorry to take up more of everybody's time but no, I mean this this is important we want to be passionate about bringing, you know, opportunities to the community. So with that, I will I will move to adjourn this session. Are we all in favor. Excellent. Great work tonight everyone thank you so much and see you Monday. It's been fantastic. Take care. Take care. Thanks everybody good night.