 My name is Charles Cornell. I'm a professional jazz musician and I've been challenged today to teach one concept in five levels of increasing darkness, increasing complexity. The topic I've chosen to discuss today is making a living as a jazz musician. I play instruments and I make a living playing instruments. Do you have do you have a guess as to how much money I make? Zero? Is that because I'm a musician? Yeah, yes. Do you think you might want to be a musician when you grow up? No. Why not? Because you don't think you're going to make any money? Well, that hurts. Do you know what it means to play music for a living? Isn't it like when you play music for money so you can pay for stuff? Yes. Yep, that's exactly it. Yep. Have you ever thought about playing music for a living? Well, no, never. No? Well, why not? Isn't it like almost impossible to make a living playing music? Well, you know, you know what though? I'm doing what I love to do and doing what you love to do if you can't make a living. Well, you know, it's not always about that and sometimes we'll accept maybe a less ideal scenario because we love it and yeah. We're here to talk a little bit about how you can do that in sort of a business world, like how you can make a living playing music. Do you play an instrument? Yeah, I play the drums. Drums? Cool. Very cool. Do you play in a band? Yeah. Yeah? What kind of music do you play? Like rock and like, yeah. Very cool. Very cool. Well, I play jazz. So, you know, you're gonna be fine. I mean, you're probably gonna make money a lot better than I would, but just keep doing what you're doing, you know, and I think you'll be perfectly okay. Yeah. How's it going? Good. Good. How are you? Cool. So, you're in college, is that right? Yeah. Yeah. What are you majoring in? Jazz performance. Jazz performance? Yeah. Yeah. We're gonna talk about the music business. The music business. Right. Yeah. Well, you know, you can definitely teach to make some extra bread, you know. So, you know why we're here? We're here to talk about the business of what I do for a living. Yes. And what do you do for a living? So, I'm a musician. Oh, oh my god. I'm so sorry. That's rough, man. That's a tough one.