 Welcome to JSA TV where we're covering the latest stories, trends and innovations from leaders in global connectivity, digital infrastructure and the networks within. And we are coming to you live from Time Square at DCD Connect 2024. And I am with Patrick Quirk. Patrick is the CTO of Nautilus Data Technologies and Ashley Sturm who is the VP of Marketing for Nautilus Data Technologies. Ashley and Patrick, thank you so much for being here at JSA TV. Thank you, Dean. Appreciate it. My thanks for having us. You bet. So I'm going to toss this one to you, Ashley. For our viewers that don't already know, why don't you tell them a little bit about Nautilus Data Technologies? Yeah, so Nautilus Data Technologies really has got its core foundation, initially in our zero water consumption technology, cooling technology. But as of yesterday, we're officially public with what we are calling EcoCore. It's a 2.5 megawatt block of data center infrastructure, which just really levels up the cooling technology. And now we're talking about speed of deployment and we're talking about making data halls natively capable to handle several different types of food. So whether that's your traditional hot aisle, your liquid cooling, emergent directorship, we can make all of those things happen. Of course, Patrick being the engineer could geek out all day long. I'm just barely scratching the surface. I think you nailed it. I think we're about to geek out, though. Patrick, I want to do this. I have sat here all day since 10 AM. And cooling, of course, is something that we're talking about. But from my seat, the next generation of technology does not happen without future forward cooling technologies. Why don't you tell our viewers a little bit about why cooling is so important to those future technologies? Really, it's a great foundational question for data centers and really the entire information ecosystem as a whole. As we've all heard stories about AI and everyone knows about chat GPT and these things, right? So really what's happening is you're seeing a dramatic increase in the density and the power requirements in order to meet these application needs. And so you go back even just five years ago, and a 20-megawatt data center was a large data center. Today, the entry point is typically 50, and they want to be able to expand to 200 or more. So we've had a four to five-fold increase in required density and total scope and size over just the last few years. And the data center essentially brings power in, generates information out. But the waste product is heat. So all that energy going into generating the information comes back out as heat. So how do we best get rid of that heat in a sustainable manner and in a way that we can actually take advantage of some of it? Yeah. OK, so I've had the luxury of learning a bit about EcoCorps over the last couple of weeks. Why don't you tell our viewers a little bit about the EcoCorps technology system and what it ultimately means for the future of data center cooling? Sure. Really, what EcoCorps is is that our foundational cooling technology is really what enables us to be able to deliver the EcoCorps modular solution. So as Ashley said, it's a 2 and 1 half-megawatt block, but that 2 and 1 half-megawatts is fully expandable. So if you want to deploy a 10-megawatt data center all the way up to a 200-megawatt data center, we just scale it in 2 and 1 half-megawatt blocks. The real advantage of it is people have been doing modular construction for a long time. This is not anything new. But in the data center space, typically, that was met by either containerized solutions or you're delivering power skids or cooling skids. Because of our liquid cooling technology being embedded into it, we're able to do a fully integrated deployment. So we can deliver 2 and 1 half-megawatts worth of capacity, essentially in nine shipping splits, and install it very rapidly at a data center site. You've said a couple of things, but one that I keep hearing is that this rapid deployment implementation. I was on a panel yesterday, and that was one of the biggest challenges that some of the data centers were talking to with specific. So an enterprise comes to them and says, OK, I want 50, and I want it now, and I'm going to scale that to 200 by the end of the year. And they're going, sorry, we can't do that. A lot of that's five years. Exactly, and a lot of that is what it is that you are doing. So you are effectively solving, at least in part, some of the challenges that they were talking about on that panel. Right, what we're really trying to do is how can we move more of the manufacturing and the final assembly back into a factory? Because the more you can do it in a factory with prescribed build instructions and everything else, your quality is going to go up. Your speed is going to go up. If we start into a sequence of multiple builds even across regions, we can start pipelining all of those builds and time it with when the site is ready and deliver better than 70% of the infrastructure as a kitted part, essentially, that gets assembled into an existing prefabricated stand-up building. It's really pretty straightforward. Well, and your locale opened up as well. So you got to imagine with that much prefabrication happening, well, now you don't have so many people on site with such a high level of expertise. So now you can go places that you necessarily couldn't access before. So drive that fit out down to an absolute minimum on site. So it's an easily repeatable. Exactly. Wow, that's good stuff. Ashley, tell our viewers a little bit about what they can expect to hear from you folks over the next, let's say, 12 to 18 months. Yeah, so I think the most exciting thing happened this morning. So we have engaged and we are working on a deployment with Star Campus. So if you don't know, it's a 495 megawatt campus in Portugal. It is going to be completely cooled by the nearby ocean. So we'll be able to offer those high densities in those data halls without any water consumption, with less power consumption. So we're super excited to be a part of that project. They're doing great things on the sustainability side themselves. So to find a partner that was that locked stuff with us on how much that matters to us to be sustainable by design, it was a great fit. So water cooling and cooling and sustainability, big, big, big buzz topics here at DCD Connect. You have your hats in both of those rings. It's pretty good stuff. So from sustainability, and again, we're going to go off script. From a sustainability aspect, what kind of weight does the sustainability aspect of EcoCorps hold with, I guess, the next generation of data center operators? So from weight, do you mean how much influence, the fact that it is sustainable? What's the value there? Absolutely, Patrick. And the reason I ask that is because, and this is not provocative at all. But I am hearing rumblings of, we can take a breath now. We can step back from this being as urgent as it was, say, two or three years ago. And from my seat, I'm thinking, no, we're going to need to keep our foot on the gas. Where do you folks stand? Yeah, so really, I mean, we designed EcoCorps. And really, our cooling system takes sustainability as a primary input into the design. So instead of doing it after the fact, whether that's through buying PPAs with renewable power, or there's a lot of other ways, accounting for all of your carbon and things like that, which are all important things to do. But if you bring it back to first principles and do it as part of the design, then you're actually going to have a longer term impact and be able to address the issues from a design point. And the thing that people miss on sustainability is one of the best aspects and one of the best measures of sustainability is efficiency of design. And that's efficiency of design across a lot of parameters. How much space are you taking up? Can you use less copper, less concrete, less steel? All of those things lead to sustainability by design. And so as these AI workloads and things like that are demanding more and more power and higher and higher densities, those are actually more sustainable as a starting point than a less dense, huge data center campus that is only 20 or 30 megawatts, but it's taking up what used to be an entire family farm. Now if we can densify that, we're not taking up as much space. We're leaving more for the natural environment and then we're also using fewer materials in the building and in the operation of it. Well, and I was having a conversation earlier with someone and they asked, well, does sustainability Trump fall? And I was like, well, let me be clear, we're not ignoring the economic side. But because it is efficient by the design, it makes the economic better. And that's the thing, we're not turning a blind eye to the fact that that still matters a lot, but both can intersect. Yeah, it's funny because there are a myriad of ancillary things that maybe people don't immediately think about when they're thinking about sustainability and efficiency and even portability for that matter. But when we're talking about the actual, the fiber connections within the data center, the lights in the data center, all of it, all of it contributing to big differences, both in the economies of it, but also the sustainability. So it's really all kind of working together from that kind of ground up, something that you were talking about, Patrick, like start, it's part of the design in its origin and that is a big deal because the future of the data center industry is that. And data centers really need to move from being, just being a power consumer and an information creator to being part of the overall infrastructure ecosystem because as data centers climb to whatever percentage you believe, 3%, 5%, 8% of the total global power, that's a lot of heat that's being generated. So how can we take that waste heat and turn that into something that's actually useful to further the sustainability goals and have data centers become part of the solution as opposed to the big bogey that's the problem? Patrick, I'm so glad that fellas like you are on the mission right now. That's good stuff, we appreciate that. And appreciate you both for being on JSA TV. Thank you for having us. You bet, you bet. And thank you viewers for watching JSA TV. Stay curious, stay connected and we'll see you soon.