 So we're here with MV4D who are you? Yeah, I am Moshe Karakor. I'm the director of marketing of Mantis Vision and we are here to show Development platform called MV4D SDK. There's a color channel. There's the infrared channel and if for example, I'm shooting this chair and I press here We will have this chair in 3D Whoa in real time in real time. Yeah, let me just see behind. What's this tablet? This is special. No Yeah, you have like a Strobe flash for infrared. One second, a strobe flash? Yeah for infrared and you have a new infrared camera Okay, and working with the with the algorithm You can create 3D in real time. Let's do it. Can you do me in 3D? Can you record me? I can scan around here. We can scan this guy for example And we can see him from all angle although I'm only standing here. We can see him from Every angle. Can you scan by moving around the object? I am registered. Yeah, I can do that But it's not right now. It's not working right now. It's an offline process The real time is the SDK. For example, we can see we can see this table and We can walk around it or for example, I can shoot the floor and For a picture we have a surface That's really fast way of making 3D. Yeah, it's real time. Yeah And I can show you a few application we made With information that we scan. Is this your app? Yeah, this is the app. in the giveaway that we are giving this show It's called 3D Pop and actually it works like this. You have a girl and she's making a makeup and I can extract the girls out I can extract the girls out to be 3D and I can put her back in to the movie This is crazy You do that kind of stuff but this has to be filmed. I can do one more thing. It only works if it's filmed with this tablet. I can crop her out I can decide that I'm leaving only part of her of everything This is really awesome. She has to be filmed with this system, right? Exactly Otherwise it doesn't work. Yeah So is this Tango? No, it's the same technology inside Tango but this is not Tango SDK This is Mantis Vision SDK So do you make Tango? We are the technology inside Tango But Tango is wrapping our SDK with their own SDK Google is wrapping Mantis Vision SDK with Tango SDK So some of the features are not implemented and you need to use our SDK if you want to do more advanced things What is Mantis Vision? Mantis Vision is a startup company based in Israel And what is the idea? This is the idea This is the product, the first product you do? Yeah, the core technology is the structured light The way to get an infrared image or any image to be extracted to 3D in real time We had a longer history working in forensic area, in CSI systems and in the past two years we moved to doing it in consumer devices So you're a real CSI company, you're the real thing This is what we did in the past nine years Which CSIs? Only in Israel or everywhere? Well, forensic around the world Actually our first customers was the NSA NSA, so you build a system that people complain about, I'm joking We built systems to scan, it was in Afghanistan, it was in Gaza It was in South Korea Scanning faces? No, scanning for large environment, internals and villages and tanks and whatever And we decided at some point to take this technology and give it to the masses This is a good idea You have to give it to the masses And so this is potentially also going to be useful for indoor positioning Because if you don't have beacons, maybe you can still recognize where you are This is where Tango, this is where Google is taking this At least 8UP, Google 8UP, the guys that build Tango They're taking it to indoor navigation, augmented reality All kind of things that related to position location Or position estimation They're putting a bunch of resources into that, I hope They're making it work Because this could be part of everybody can make street view for maps Everybody is going around with their phones Google Earth for the indoors as well Health? Google Earth Earth indoors Indoor Earth But everybody can take their phone and adding information to a new street map To a new street view But with Mantis Vision SDK you can scan people and put them inside the matrix How much data is it? It's like a picture plus a little bit more No, it's like a 2D movie with a layer of 3D information How much is this layer? It's not so much? It depends on what the quality that you need, it's going to be configurable And right now you said that you don't do right now video We just walk around, but how much do you need to make that work? Just walking around anywhere, just adding everything into a 3D model That depends on what you're keeping, what you decide to keep You can keep the mesh environment, the stitch environment You can keep every frame, you can keep every second frame That depends on what is the application For example, in order to scan your full body, 360 I can do it in 20 or 50 mega of data And right here at the booth, you're giving out these cardboards The same application that you saw, the same application that I saw, the 3D pop You can download using the QR code Then you put your phone inside this And then you can walk inside and see from many angles You can see the information This is just a demo, just a promotion for this show How about a gamer who wants to scan this exhibition hall And start doing a 3D first person shooter here And scan the people as well and use them as avatars inside Yes, exactly How soon? Exactly Well, we're working on that right now We're working with Qualcomm Vuforia Qualcomm Vuforia Qualcomm? Vuforia, Vuforia is the augmented reality software team inside We're working with Google, not only Tango, but other teams in Google We work with few tier 1 OEMs to get this hardware inside a mobile phone What's the CPU here? This is now Dragon 801 801, so it has a hardware extension for what you do a little bit? No, we just used one of the four ARM cores inside So it's just ARM stuff? Yeah, just ARM stuff The Tango, which CPU is in Tango? The Tango is NVIDIA Tegra K1 And it's also when it does this stuff, it's also using the ARM core, that's it? No, on Tango we use the GPU The Kepler Yeah, this was the decision, we are completely portable That means that the OEM or the OEM can decide What needs to be left free and what is a formatist vision, we can cooperate This is the future of Android, no? This is the future of making content The next generation of content people that make What people do today is actually taking pictures and share it This is what people do And it's just flat, it's just 2D They don't share how far everything was in the picture You have to kind of like psycho-visually guess Exactly, what we are able to do is just extract the 3D out And you say it from different directions And of course there's a lot of things to do with that Besides taking pictures, for example The data is very accurate That means you can use it for online retail For example, you can measure your shoes or your fingers to measure for a ring So online retail is very big in this area We have few partners on online retail that are very interested in this technology Because this is actually a measurement tool So you measure a guy and then you custom build a suit Like a tailor can just Well, you know that there are not many cells of rings in the world Because rings have to fit very tight to the finger You can miss a lot by one or two millimeters So it would know exactly the size of stuff Exactly It knows Like taking a snapshot Because it knows exactly how far the infrared is from the camera On the tablet or something Because the data is very very accurate Every frame that we shoot We have exact sub-millimeter accuracy of the points located along the area How many people, how many guys in your company? Well, there are 50 people in MantiVision Most of them in Israel A few in Switzerland and sales in South Korea What do the Swiss guys do? They do unity-based demos like the one that you adjust to They're doing Unity which is Unreal Engine Yeah Or the other one, something like this is an engine They build a rendering software based on Unity For demos or to show what this technology capable to do But in general we open the API and we open the SDK So all the developer community can develop on top of this Has lots of people been interested here at the conference Are you busy every day? Yeah, yeah, it was very busy here I'm guessing you're talking maybe with hardware makers Who want to differentiate And who want to integrate these technologies in there Make the next generation of hardware Even though it's a software solution The focus at least at this exhibit is Let the developers create the ecosystem for this And we are closing the OEM site The OEM will bring this inside a mobile phone But we need a lot of ecosystem, a lot of applications That use this hardware So this is what you're promoting here A bunch of people have patents somewhere? Yeah, the core patent of MantiVision Is the structured light, the format of the 3D data This is what we license to the OEM Is it possible to lock Apple out of this so they don't get it? Apple bought PrimeSense like this here So they did for this purpose So they are like our competitor for this matter Alright, so good luck in getting Apple out of the way Or I'm joking, we'll see Well, they can ignite the market like they did before And we will just join the stream of this market ignition Yeah, they'll try to help you a little bit to get it popular Exactly, I'm not worried