 when we're getting into the flash and IO area. That's very interesting indeed, because what they're looking to do is to put PCIe cards into the servers and also manage those together with the arrays, the shared storage arrays in layer three on the diagram. So they have FAST, which is part of that active management of data level. They have FAST, they obviously will have caching to begin with, but the really interesting thing is when they get further down their program and start to introduce a cache coherency across the servers and the layer three. That's very interesting technology that will be necessary. Let's talk about the opportunity for Fusion IO SolidFire and say EMC, for example. So here at Node Summit, talk is developers on the front end flexing their muscle becoming more back end, we talk with Matt Rainey, who's the founder of Voxer, one of the most successful fastest growing apps, and we chatted last night at dinner over a million, I think a million users a day or a month or whatever, large number, doing a lot of IO stuff. I asked him specifically if he's using any innovation on hardware, he said, I don't know, we just go with the hosting. So for him, they're kind of ignorant to what goes on in the back end. That's an opportunity for EMCs of the world. So how does EMC become better for this market as the market is obviously rising the tide on the developer side? How does the traditional storage vendors and the newbies like SolidFire and Fusion IO, how do they service that market? It's a very, very interesting discussion and being part of that discussion, obviously the IO that he's talking about is audio, it's large amounts, if you lose a bit or two, it's not the end of the world. So it fits into the paradigm here at Node very well indeed. And for that particular application, that may or may not be the right usage of this technology. But what is important is when you go into the enterprise, guarantee delivery becomes much more important. There is a desire to reduce risk, the impact of risk if you lose a transaction or something of that sort. So in that case, the guarantees come from being able to write as soon as possible to a persistent medium, in this case, the Flash device. And that is extremely important for enterprise type applications. So EMC, if they go into this business, they're going to use their strong relationship with VMware, being able to add technology to the VMware level, the hypervisor level, being able to improve the IO, being able to write that IO and guaranteed a right security of that IO. Those are areas which EMC can really add a tremendous amount to the infrastructure. So you're saying, if I read you correctly, the Node Summit, the Node.js opportunity actually helps these guys, EMC and solid firing. Oh sure, yes, yes. There is a market out there that will want to do lots and lots of IO and that IO on disk is just as slow on a Node.js system as it is anywhere else. And these technologies will come in, in my view, up and down the stack. Let's talk about.