 Hey, J.O.W. And I was like, yo, how did y'all dig me up out of this damn mall? Bro, you dope as hell. Yeah. Speaking of which, welcome back. We just got some dope people stomping through the trap, you know, showing us love. And today is no exception. We got the dope ass created. We can't even say an artist because it goes way beyond that. A dope ass creative human being, bro. Sitting here going through the bio like, bro, DL and D it all, bro. And you got a cold ass named DL Warfield. You like that? Bro, the only Warfield I'm familiar with is Marshall. Come on, Marshall Warfield. Yeah, absolutely. You know what? I haven't met a Warfield that I wasn't related to. Really? It was a wide receiver that was with me. Paul Warfield. There you go. And my son is a wide receiver. What's up, other Warfield? DLL Warfield. So welcome to the trap first and foremost, man. Man, I'm excited to be down here, you know, and I was definitely familiar with your show like I follow on social media, but I knew it was something that was super dope when I told my son and his eyes lit up. Yeah. I was like, oh, okay. So this is really the shit, you know. But I appreciate it. I'm glad to be down here. Bro, let's speak to what you said about your son. Bro, when his generation started embracing the show from us as a, like, not as like, you know, they doing it, but when it came some cool shit to them, I knew it was going to be something that lasts for a minute. You know what I'm saying? Because they didn't even start coming to comedy shows yet, like his generation. So these are some fans. So shout out to the money you're going to spend with us individually. Young state. Yeah, that's my investment. But you know, it's funny. I got to give you this because as soon as I told him, he was like, you know, they're going to roast you on the show. No. So I was like, ah, shit. So I brought down a little peace offering. Okay. So one of my, one of my dope tees, you know what I mean? That's dope. I was like, yeah. I was like, maybe he will lay off me a little bit. I'll let you make it. You brought me something. When you bring gifts, you get to make it. Taylor, you mind adding this to the rack of things? You know, I like to have ambiance. I'm going to hang it up as we do. You know what Taylor is? I'll be getting on her nerves. I can see it all in her face. She be like, bro, I do not work for you. Yeah. She came in smiling though, but I guess you might have changed the attitude a little bit for her. I don't talk to her that much because she's fucking me up. She real quiet. I'm like, why you don't know what to say to her? She said, why you don't know what to say to her than to me? Makes sense. I just walked off because I was like, you right. You right. But man, how did you get, how did you get your start with, you know, bringing the creativity, the light, the visuals, the art, all of that, man. Man, one. Give me your first, give me your first successful project. I don't give a damn if it was like second grade and you drew the Dover's Ninja Turtles. Okay. My first successful project, man, when I was in middle school, I won a logo design contest for American Can Company. American Can Company. I don't even think they're in existence anymore, but they were based in St. Louis. My godfather worked for them. He was like, hey, we having a, we having a logo design contest. Can you draw something? And I was like, sure. And so the slogan was let's put management and workers on an even scale or something like that. So I did what you would think. I drew a scale. Like a Libra scale. Yeah, like a Libra scale with, you know, some management shit on one side and then some worker stuff on the other. And I won that. I won it. So it was like $500. You know, they probably should have paid me about a grand. That's not true though. For you to be in middle school, that was a week. It was, it was a big thing. It was definitely a big thing, you know, and so all of my successes, you know, I attribute to little marks like that. Like it wasn't really anything big, but it was a couple of things. It was one, people opened up doors and opportunities for me. You know, that definitely happened. And I'm so thankful for all of the people that did, you know, from art, sports, mentoring, teachers, et cetera. Like I had a lot of people that carved out lanes for me. Right. And my godfather was one of those people that recognized my talent at a young age and brought something to me that probably most people wouldn't have thought to do for a seventh or eighth grader. Right. And I saw you checking out some of the fan art. We always, you know, we rotated, but it ain't been rotated in a while. Yeah. You got some nice pieces. For every show we go to, somebody bring us some artwork. And it's always people you never would expect to be artists. It'd be like a hood-ass dope dude. Like a dope boy. Like when you draw that, man, I was doing, I started back doing portraits in the pen. Right, right, right. I did a little something to get, can we get a picture? Absolutely. I don't know why they always got that voice. Can we, me and my lady, we can get a picture? Right. No, y'all have that. We just, can we get a picture? You know what, like artists, man, we come in all shapes, size, and color, so I think it's dope that, you know, farm adult boys are not getting back into their portrait back. You know, that's awesome. This show been bringing the hood back together. That's good. That's good. You know what, I think that's a great title too, bringing the hood back together. So maybe that's another segment or a spin-off. Just bringing the hood back together? Absolutely. That's what we just had, like a baby daddy and a baby mama on Face Tag. Mediate arguments or something. Right. So it can come get the kids on Winston. Right. A lot of people hitting me on the inbox, they done got back together with the baby mama and stuff. That's awesome, man. I'm not saying it is all our fault. Right. We had something to do with it. But you know what, you could, you know, you could fix a lot of things through laughter, you know, and like, like me and my wife, we've been together since 1985. Right. You never even tried to get in your way. Right, right, right, right, right. His mama. His mama. Right. Hey, but listen. Y'all grew up together. Yes. Yes, since I was a sophomore in high school, man, but when people asked what the secret is, I was like, yo, because we can still laugh together. Yeah. You know what I mean? And so everything else can go up and down. But you know, like if you really enjoy being around that person. Yeah. So comedy can cure our kind of shit, man. We were about to talk about some art, but bro, you've been with your wife for like 30 something years. Yeah. How old are you? I'm 38. Okay. And you got to give us some game on that, bro, because it's black men. We don't get a lot of black men that can give us some successful marriage tips. You know what, man? This is a whole nother thing we got to discuss. You're not saving us hanging like that. Okay. Okay. So listen, so I think that one, I mean, when it gets down to giving relationship advice, like the only person that you have to worry about your relationship working with is you and that other person. Right. So like my advice for you might not work, but it works for me and my wife. I ain't going to take it anyway. I ain't listening. Fuck it. Leave me. I'm fucking up. Fuck it. You're going, she's going through it with me first. We're not just about to be holding love. Hey, you know what? Hey, I need to know if you hit for real. Drag your ass. Yeah. So you want somebody that's battle tested. So that's dope. So I think, you know, my wife is definitely battle tested. I mean, being with an artist, you know, it's no easy task. Yeah. Cause people weird. Absolutely. People are very weird. Absolutely. And I would say that, you know, I'm definitely weird. Like different shit. And I think differently. Yeah. You know, but I think one thing that probably makes me a little different than a lot of artists is I was also an athlete. So I was like football and track and art. Yeah. That was your way of letting them know you weren't on the nerd shit. Yeah. Yeah. But you know what? It just, it just made it. I think it brought, I think it brought me down a little bit because when you play sports, you have to do things like that. Yeah. It gives you balancing. And to me, it was about working my ass off. So sometimes I work my ass off when I win. Sometimes I work my ass off and I lose, but I just try to stay neutral about the whole situation. I kind of approach art the same way. Yeah. It's about working my ass off. So creatively, what are some of your favorite pieces or things to create? You know what? I like doing everything, man. You've been in the fast. Yeah. I like doing everything. You said, you said nudity. Yeah. Oh, absolutely. Yeah. Dug and doughnuts. Yeah. Chicago Tribune. Yeah. And Heizer Boys. You gotta diverse. Yeah. They're all of them. I'm just running off a few of them. I think like some of the, some of the most exciting projects, you know that your audience probably knows is like the stuff that I did when I was a creator direct at LeFace. Right. So there I was in charge of like podcast, TLC, paint, Goody Mob, T.I., Tony Braxton and what was incredible was seeing like those artists at the Genesis, like when they bring you what they think is, what they know is the best shit that they got and then they trust you to add a visual to it. Like that's an incredible, that's an incredible hand. You just named a whole list of musical titans. Right. Like working with them earlier, before the world, like you said, before the world gets to consume all of this great shit they about to try out is like, could you see the super stardom in some of these people like off the gate? Absolutely. You know, like it was just, it was different moments working there where like they would bring in the music and as soon as you hear it, you would be like, holy shit, you know. And at the time, you know, we were just thinking about what was great at that moment, not like what was going to be great 10, 20 years down the road. And so, like when I look at some of those artists, just you know, and what they went on to become like, I'm not surprised because they were great then, you know, but you don't think about the long term when you're working on that shit. Yeah. You're thinking about being the greatest right now. And then you got to, you can't even really talk about it. You got to wait before, you know, it's true. Absolutely. Absolutely. You never really get the grand scope of how great and huge TLC is and was like, what was it like working with TLC? Man, working with TLC was great because they are, they just love creative shit and you couldn't go too far for them. You know, you could bring them any idea and they were open to it. And so I think that to me, that was one of the qualities that really, really made them stand out. Like they were a hundred percent about going against the grain, visually, musically and everything. And that's the type of person that I am, too. So it was perfect. And so they were easy. I mean, they were one of the easiest groups that I actually had to work with. Who was the artist that pushed your creativity? Like that really pushed you like, I don't know if I could be a fuck with him. I would probably say Usher. Really? You know, I absolutely fucking literally Usher, man. I mean, and it's funny, it's like, he, he's definitely a, a re-finker. You know what I mean? Like he's not super impulsive. And we've had multiple situations where like I've designed, you know what? It wouldn't be the last minute. It changes as much as it was to get to the finish. So an example like, when I did the artwork for Here I Stand, I probably did 60 covers. Damn. He went with the first one that I sent him. After, you know, after I did all of those. And so the way that we worked, as soon as I designed that, I sent it to him. I was like, dude, this is it. And he's like, man, I don't know. And so design after design after the design, and we ended up going back to the very first one. Yeah. You know? And so I don't know if he was just fucking with me at times, but he was the one that is challenging to get him to commit to something. So you create these one-off pieces. What happens to the other 59? Man, they get ready to become NFTs. Mmm. Yeah. That would be a goal. You know what I mean? But they just sit in a vault. And you know, like with most of the music projects that I have, I mean, I have just files of shit, you know, for photo shoots, still like whatever. So I have all of that, you know? Right. And so now I'm just trying to navigate through ownership and who owns what and can I release on this material? Yeah. You know? Because I have my fine art, which is like mostly my main focus right now that I could definitely do. But if I can dig back in the bag and grab some of that stuff that's, you know, people never even seen, that I thought was amazing, you know? That would be an incredible opportunity. Do me a favor because you know so much about it. Like, like you said, we got a very big, broad audience from your son age to grandma and them age. Who are some of the black artists that they should look up, get online and check out? Black fine artists? Yeah, give us some dope black artists man. Kevin Wack, Fabian Williams, which is occasional superstar, Paper Frank, Gary Kelly, Thomas Blackshire. Throw some women in there. Throw some women in there. Give us some black women, artists, creatives, sculptures, do sculptures, whatever. We want everything. Man. Female artists? I mean, I'm just drawing a blank now. We'll get back to it. You can just yell them out as they come to you. Yeah, just random, like I got Tourette's. This is the trap. We have no format. Tasha Black girl. She called. It's a black man show. But you know what, like, a lot of the artists that I followed and was inspired by growing up, they were not like your most well-known fine artist. They were like people that I interned for and things like that. We'll check them out too. Yeah, absolutely. So I gave you a couple like Tony Wade, Scott Carroll, Jerry Kelly, like those are guys that really revolutionized me. Things for me as an artist. That's dope, man. So any of your kids get into the art? You know what, my daughter is a writer-director. You know, she just finished working on Spider-Man. She's super funny as shit, you know, but she's working on production, but writing, directing. And my son is, he has my athletic side. He has some creative ability, but you know, I have to try to pull it out of. You know what I mean? I understand. Yeah, what about you got kids? Yeah. Okay, any of them funny? Well, my son is so sarcastically funny. Yeah. It is so crazy. Yeah, that's dope. How old is he? 12. Okay. And it's just, it's to the point where I don't even want to talk to him. Because he's fully aware that I'm a comedian. So like you said, it's like, I think he has the right to be a comedian. I'm like, bro, I'm your daddy. Right. See, y'all go back and forth. A lot. Yeah. But he was right a lot of time. Yeah, that's good. I think having those type of dialogues, I mean, I think to me, creativity is right next to sarcasm. Right. And it's right next to being a smart ass. And so like in school, I was always drawn to smart ass, wise ass. My son definitely is smart ass. Like I always, like he always go to my dad house, right? You know, my dad, old school, Mississippi. Okay. So every time my son, like you're ready to get up, my dad hit him with some old shit that this generation of kids ain't never used to hearing. We go like, grandson, there's some good cold water in there. Every time my son come home, anytime somebody walk past the fridge and they be like, there's some good cold water in there. That's some of the funniest shit. That's dope though, man. I think, you know, it's awesome to have those type of bonds with your kids. You know what I mean? And I think that just to watch them grow up, just like they go to bed and wake up and be holding other individuals when they come downstairs. And then I mean, he'll probably say shit to pool great bits and things out for you. The questions that they ask. Right. And some of my, like as a fine artist, like some of my best, most memorable pieces have came through joking and talking shit. What are some of your favorite pieces that you've personally done? I don't think we get the brag enough as a culture. Yeah. Recently, I did a piece. It was, well, I do a body of work called the American flag remix. So if you look it up online, it's just one word, American flag remix. But I did a piece in that series called the United States that we built this shit for free. Oh my God. Yeah. That's the shirt. Yes. That's the move we can get. Ava DuVernay on that. Yeah. See it all. Hook it up. Hook it up. Brother Umar gonna have to do some generations in there. I like that. Yeah. Can we write that? Let's do it. The United States that we built this shit for free. Yeah. We're dangin' Kahlua in there. Yeah. He's very convincing. Yeah. I want Jada Pinkett to come back on this one. Yeah. I want Lawrence Fishburne to land the motherfucking Nebra Canal and just like all all these generations of black people come from out of space and underground. Man, that shit gonna be harder than Planet of the Apes. I'm fuckin' with that heavy already. Yeah. I think that's a great idea. Guess who else here? Yeah. Well, you know what? Maybe she just sings to open it. You want her in it? I want her in it. I want her to walk out and give a speech. Okay. Like she's standing on a cliff or a ledge and she's like black people we are here but she'll do it better. Maybe Grace Jones too. Grace Jones. Grace Jones. Grace Jones. Yeah. Grace Jones. And the movie Grace Jones and Naomi Campbell's Sisters. Okay. Yeah. Star Wars. It's like our Star Wars. Okay. I think that's dope. It's gotta be like ten of them because we ten behind our ears. At least. Now, yeah, we got a little bit of catching up to do. Right. But I think, yeah, like that piece, you know, it was inspired by enslaved American, enslaved African-Americans, transatlantic slave trade and the original piece is hanging up in the gathering spot right now. But, like, there's a flag and like this chain that looked like the shit was from like the 1700s, you know. And it was like the most emotional, heaviest piece that I've done. But I think that one is probably the run that I really put my all into it the most. Yeah. You know, I always, you know, I'm always into like whatever it is I'm working on at that moment. But that piece, like when people see it, it's beautiful, but it's haunting at the same time. Man, man, you know what, working with those guys, it was great. Because it literally came from the future. Right. And came back to do this shit. Right. You know what, man, like I remember like just having conversations with them just about like their concept of space, you know. And I remember talking to Dre about when he really made the flip or started singing about like things that came to him and his dreams and things like that. And when you have a conversation, you don't really trip off of that shit. You'd be like, yeah, yeah, did you approve this logo? You know what I mean? But when you sit back and you think and then you see like how, you know, they told you something a year a year before they drop and how everything maps out. It's incredible. But like those guys are definitely geniuses, man. I mean, I look at them like they're this this era's version of like the Rolling Stones and they've transcended. Let me ask you this for the artist, like in the music game or you know, whatever, how important is it to have that signature logo? You know what, I think it's very important for one, two reasons. One, I mean, you want to have something that somebody can recognize you instantly from. Whether it's from a distance or whether it's from up close. And then also just the longevity and legacy of merchandising. So, you know, like it's a shitload of bands, especially like on the rock side that sell so much merch. Rolling Stones. That yes, man. Like that mouth and that tongue. I mean, then they license it. Absolutely. So it's and kiss. I mean, it's an important thing to think about. Most definitely. But when you think about Aerosmith. Aerosmith. Yeah. I mean, shit, the Commodores had it. Yeah. But when you think about like a lot of the same too many symbols. I mean, all cast has theirs. You know, run DMC has theirs. But other than that, like I don't know who you could public enemy. Yeah. You know, so maybe it's them three, but I can't think of anybody that has that symbol that when you see it, it's like the Batman shit in the sky. Yeah. And I think it's very important. It's dope. Like your backwoods, you know. Yeah, man. You know what? I'm a sucker for some advertising. This shit was so dope. I gotta have it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got some good friends over there. Backwoods. That's been making sure I stayed with some fresh ass backwood shit that throw with the J's and that's great. Yeah. That's great. So then it's out early. Ain't nobody got this yet. So how long did it take you to coordinate all of that? You just like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Jay, how did you like this? Good, good. There's how they come. And I'm just putting them up so they'll know that they knew. Got it. See, that the bottom with icy and the shit like that. They are clean. They are clean. They're clean as you should. Yeah, it's where because if you look good you get paid good. I got showed. I get it. I just wanted to pack them back up and let them know we're still in here with it. JW, play me some pimping while we doing this, man. We got pumping in the house, man. No, he was killing it earlier. When he said his name was... Don't boost his head up, man. Okay, okay, okay. This nigga ain't ready. The nigga named John, but he got on his car and he was like... Yeah, yeah, I was like, is it, yeah. I hate this dude, bro. I know I was like, is this stamp or something? He was like, nah, he got that in middle school too. You got your nickname from middle school, right? Yeah. I think you rock with it. Like when God has somebody give you a middle name, I mean, nickname, you keep that shit. Bro, this dude is authentically one of the coolest motherfuckers you've ever met. This nigga don't never get out of character. That's good. For real. I ain't never seen him yell, run. I ain't never seen him in a hurry. Some motherfuckers on one speed. That's funny, man. Hell yeah. Hey, so what are you working on? What's next? Like what's exciting coming up for you? What's exciting? Shit, it's all exciting because none of this shit was ever supposed to happen. So every show was exciting. Right now, the main thing that I'm doing since the world is so crazy and just to be extra safe is just I'm doing these tour dates with Mike Epps. Okay. So we dropping five or six days at a time. That's great. Just taking this slope day by day going back into this shit. Creating this, we're working on some animated shit trying to get the Roach Motel. We got this cartoon. Yeah, I was taking that t-shirt up. Yeah, man. We had this dope shit on the show and the fans wanted us to bring that. We had to do the song called Everybody Handroaches. Got it. So we did one of those exterminators. Hey, so here's a funny one, man, for you. I mean, seeing just like connections. So a long time ago, man, like I designed Nick Cannon's hip hop album cover. Right. Shit never came out. You the dude we've been looking for, cause you should have told him. Nah, I just was. Now that shit never came out though. I remember, you know, like I ran into him at an event, it was like a Grammy week. And I was like, hey man, I designed your cover. He's like, man, I'm telling nobody about that shit. You don't want nobody to know. I see this. Yeah. I'm not that dude, so damn cool, man. He's a cool one too. That's crazy though. It's a small ass world. Yeah, man. Everything is connected. And so I think, especially in Atlanta, I mean, you know, it's easy to run in and bump into, you know, a great opportunity. So that's why you got to keep your reputation tight. Let me ask you this. After working with all these people who are, you know, considered legends and, you know, titans in the music industry, how do you pick now who you work with after having a resume like? Man, it's got to be like, if I'm working on like a creative direction design type project, it has to be two things that determine the factor. Do I love the music and do they got a budget? You know, because other than that, it's just like, I'm not really into it. But if I dig the music, then maybe your budget don't even have to be as like a normal budget, you know? Going back to the music, tell me about your Tommy Boy days. I just love that Tommy Boy logo with the three names of party. Yeah, yeah, that was a good logo. Man, so Tommy Boy, I mean, that, it got me and my wife to New York City. The job wasn't all that fucking hot, I mean, I was like, I started the clothes. It never is, it's just the shit you do. Yeah, yeah, I started that clothing line, but what was dope was being in New York City and especially like at that age and being able to freelance for everybody. So while I was up there, I mean, even though work was like kind of hectic, I was freelancing for like Andre Hurrell, uptown records, Puffy and Bad Boy, shit, everybody that I can kind of get a meeting with, you know? And just the city, the energy of the city at that time, you know, it's one of those things that leaves a stamp on you. And so I came from St. Louis, which was slow moving like your boy, you know? And then I moved to New York City, so it was culture shock for me when I went up there. And one of the funniest things that I heard was like, in the office, people said, you're not from here, Ron, you know, I was like, no, how do you know? It's like, because you always smile. And I'm like, damn, you know? Yeah, they don't like this. So it's like, no, they didn't like you, at least, you know, in the early 90s, they didn't like you smiling in New York City, but. They don't really have a lot to smile about. This is true, but at the same time they do, like I've seen some of the craziest shit that I've ever seen in my life in New York City, that was just random. You will, and it'll be so normal to everybody. Right, and it'll be right next, like you can see the craziest shit right next to the most expensive, rich, and shit. I mean, literally like right next to it, don't matter. A homeless dude taking the shit, eating a Dunkin' Donuts. Yes, yes. Shit right there, but he'll go and wash his hands. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do this shit. Yeah, what about it? Yeah, I seen that like one time at lunch, I just seen the dude pull his pants down, he was shitting on the side of a building. Exactly. And he was still talking to me. How y'all doing? It's another day at the office. Yeah, yeah. Let's double back on something that you briefly spoke on, these NFTs. Yeah. This shit is blowing up, man. Can you give us a better description of what that is? Man, I think the NFT, yeah, I think what it does is it gives artists and creators the opportunity to authenticate whatever it is that they own and they create and then maybe get paid on it for longevity, right? Right. And so an NFT can be anything that people consider worth having ownership, man, in keeping. So like this conversation right here that we take could be an NFT, because you know what, you put it up and you have it minted and you get your blockchain information and post it on the site and then you kind of up and rolling. But the shit is really, really crazy. And I think that it's going to disrupt a lot of business markets, you know? Let me ask you this for the struggling artists who may be watching. What advice would you give to somebody who's super talented that's having one of those moments that you have as an artist where things might not be moving? Right. Not to say that it's not good, it's just one of those things that you go through creatively trying to get your feet. I think that like most artists, you know, like we really don't think like business, you know? And so you could be an artist and you are always painting and you like, well shit, like my shit ain't selling, you know? And so I think, you know, if you have in that type of run and you confident in your work, you might have to position that shit in another lane. Like maybe. Let me ask you this, because I got this friend as a dope-ass artist, but every time she finished a piece, she refused to sell it. What about, what advice would you give artists who are like that? They create all of this shit that they want nobody to have. Well, it's a couple of things. I mean, if she wants to create it and then maybe photograph and sell prints or sell t-shirts or coffee mugs, I mean, you could. No, she won't let nobody get it. It's just a big-ass personal collection. Shit, I mean, I was told like when I was in the eighth grade that if you're an artist, you've got to let the world know. Now see, that's some shit that can apply all of it. That's another shirt, man. Yeah. And so because of that, like. That things down, Junior? Yeah. Over there on Facebook, you can keep it up with what your dad is talking about. Hey, I try to tell him. If you're an artist, you have to let the world know. Yeah. And so then I also believe like a lot of times, just like in a lot of things in life, you got to let shit go so that you can get to the greater things, right? And so like with me, like with all of the art pieces that I've done over the years, like I don't feel emotionally connected to anything, you know? Like, but I feel emotionally connected to my ideas and how I came up with that. But after I finish the piece, matter of fact, after I think of the piece, a lot of times I feel like I won already. But then I got to go through the steps, which is the working part of the artist. Got to go make that shit. Got to go paint that shit. Like that's the work. But the idea is what I truly love. And so I think, you know, to me, like I go through the process of like, I got to get shit out of my sight so that I can have new ideas. You ever seen some of your shit and wanted it back? No. Like, look, I wound it not. No, no, no. But you know what? I didn't corner you, my baby bitch. No, never that. But it's things that like that I've done that I didn't care if it ever sold or not. Because I really was, you know, I was digging it like that. But other than that, like I'm usually more excited to create the next new thing, you know? And so like when I'm working on things, I'm thinking of other shit that I could be working. Like I'm learning from this experience to take to the next experience. And so if all you're doing is looking at them same experiences all the time, it's hard to get new ideas. So when you get in your zone, what are you listening to? I listen to everything, man. I listen to. Well, tell me some of your new favorite niggas, the new rap niggas. Ah, man. Some of the younger niggas. You know, new shit you'll be listening to. Earth Gang. OK. Shit, like from a rap standpoint. I mean, I like Travis Scott. You know, is he considered a young? OK, I like him. I got the craziest Travis Scott story. Yeah, we got to hear it. Yeah, I like Damani Harris a lot. He cold as fuck. We got to get him on here. Let me tell you this Travis Scott story. So we had the BET Awards. Everybody outside, like all the people who perform in outside, all the rappers and shit. So it's like this right when his shit was super on fire. Right. He get ready to go on stage, right? So he come in like, I think he was on like a truck or some shit. He was walking to the loading dock. Bro, he walked and like slipped and popped his fucking knee cap on the way to the stage. And I'm like, oh, shit. He posted me first. He like toys, ACL or some shit right there. I'm like, so what did they do? Nigga, they fixed it. I mean, not his leg, but they fixed it. Performing shit where he had, I think he kind of just like laid on some shit or something. But I know he left right after that. That's crazy. He fucked this shit up. That's not good. It was like right in front of me, too. So he walking and he missed the step of some shit. His leg gave out. I was like, oh, somebody get this man. I'm not qualified to him, though. That's funny. But I think like young like is, I mean, is J. Cole considered young? Yeah. Okay, young. I mean, I love like him. I mean, obviously Kendrick Lamar and I mean, I like motherfuckers who can like rap, rap. Really? And so that's who I mean, I'm like. You gotta give some of them other guys a chance to, some of them ones who are not necessarily great rappers. No, no, that's, that's the he puts me on. They put in some great energy. Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, so my son, I mean, he's in charge of curating those playlists for me. But he put me on like, what's the young guy out in California or Roddy Rich? Like he put me up on Roddy Rich. You like to sing and shit? Yeah, I mean, that's what I mean. He's singing that shit. Roddy Rich Cole. Yeah. What I mean. You got this in the right way. Okay. He's a big dude. Okay. Big singing thing. Rod wave. Put that down stick. He no right way. Yeah. Oh, he got it. Okay. And then if you want to hit some real aggressive shit, like NBA young boy. Okay. Yeah, that's, that's his, that's his guy too. I don't know what he did to the next generation. Okay. The Elvis of this time. And I like, and I like Lil Baby. I think Lil Baby, yeah, I think Lil Baby's legit, you know. But some, some of it I just can't, I'm like, damn, am I getting, oh, I mean, I am. Oh shit, I'll be 53, but, but yeah, some shit. I just like, I can't even. Yeah. We'll get too hard on the young dude. You don't fucking move, huh? We'll be too hard on the young dude. No, I'm not hard on him. You know, just like. I'm saying our generation, like the one, the generation right in front of the guys who are hot right now. Right. A man in here ain't got no lyrics. And then you listen back to stuff, this shit, we'll be listening to him like that. Oh, that's crazy. I mean, yeah, I was, I was, you know, the other day I was just listening to shit like the fat boys and like the skinny boys. Like they came out when I was like a junior in high school, like in 86. But they weren't really talking about shit either. It was just like kind of like party raps. But we loved it. The fat boys definitely wasn't talking about shit. Yeah. So, I mean, yeah. But they cold. They cold. And so, you know, everything, everything goes in cycles. I just know like the musically what always moves me is the storyteller, you know? And so like when I think about, you know, like Andre 3000 on 16 ain't enough with Rick Ross, you know, I'm like, shit, is that, like if that, if those bars are the standard, you know, and, and like, you know, T.I. like the Libra album. Like I love that fucking album, you know, I decided by the way, but I know. Yeah, but so I'm, I'm just, I'm into that. I'm into the stories. I want shit to take me places. The coldest, young, new storyteller nigga is, well, he's no longer with us, but King Vaughn. Okay. That nigga gave you every detail. Okay. In the car with the radio on, listen to some music. Every song. I didn't like this shit. You know, just how I do it. I be like nigga, he give you every detail. That's funny, man. Yeah. I mean, love nip. I love nip. You know, I guess he's a young guy too. I love, I love his stuff. Love the way Nipsey rap. Nipsey rap, like you was with him earlier. Yeah. He was just reminding you of all the shit y'all did. Yeah. You know, it's funny, man. Like the way that he raps, but I agree. The way that he raps, it reminds me, and this is way off to the left, but it's a book. I don't know if you've read it. It's called Relentless by Tim Grover. I will? But you got it. Yo, you will. It's called Relentless? Relentless by Tim Grover. You will finish that shit in two days. And Tim Grover, shit, he should be paying me for this advertiser, but Tim Grover was Michael, no, he was Michael Jordan's trainer when Mike was in the NBA. And then he started working with Kobe and doing Wade. But the book is written as if you're sitting right next to them on the bench and they just talking through shit, it's dope. But it'll get you, if that shit don't get you going, nothing can. You know, it's a great book. You know, that's what I'm saying. But it reminds me of Nip when you read it. I mean, it's, you know, because of the quality that you said, it's like you write with them. You know, it's the same thing. Cause sometimes Nip, it just throw a bar in there and it kind of sound like he is talking to you. Damn, yo, it's my weed. I was like, okay. He talks with that, man. Bro, we got to collab on the project, man. Man, I would love to, man. I mean, I've been doing a few collaborations with different musicians and artists. Who did all the comedians though, bro. No, but let's fucking go. That's what I'm saying. And then I'm the, I'm the type, like if we say we going to do it, we going to do it. We ain't going to meet 15 times on a car. And I'm like, yo, you got that shit? All right, send it to me. That's what I'm saying. It's like, I'm a hundred, I'm a hundred. Y'all hearing this right now. I'm a hundred percent in. So whatever it is, you want to try. You know why it's got to happen. Why? Cause your son is a fan of this show. You think he not going to let that shit out? Right, right. Shit, you know. That's crazy. I got to, you know, I got to have him as my project manager then let him manage this process. Yeah. You know? But yeah, but we can, I mean, whatever it is, like. Not, don't think here. We got to hold another setup that we going with. Okay. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We would definitely want to, want to get some real dope shit in there. Y'all need a big dope box actually. For real? Mm-hmm. Like I make these dope boxes that are like a table. Although this shit is flat too. This shit is flat. Yeah. My partner made it. That shit is dope. You did a great job. Tell me more about this dope box. Where can I see it? Can you just cite what people can hit you? Yeah, actually, yeah. So if you go to dlwarfield.com, everything is on there. You know, my Instagram, my Twitter, everything is just dlwarfield.com. I'm on it. I'm about to get on it right now because, you know, I'm building, me a man cave right now. Where at? At my house. Okay. And that shit you said, I like that, that box shit. Give me some more detail. Man, so I started doing the dope series like in 2014. And obviously, I mean, everybody knows what the word dope means in hip hop vernacular. So it was something that I've been saying since like 1981, well, really 1982. And so I started making these pieces. And the very first piece that I made was for a fundraiser for Chris Kelly's foundation. Okay. And so he had a- Chris Cross. Yeah, from Chris Cross. What the hell are these folks? They don't know. I'm telling you. Chris Cross. All right, yeah. Who's Chris Kelly? I'm coming back. Right. No, Chris Cross. Yep. So I got hit up from a young woman named Angela Watts that was curating his, an event, a fundraising event for his foundation. They asked me if I would put work in the show to help raise money. I think it was for either cancer or leukemia. I was like, yeah, but then I didn't have shit that was hip hop related. So, you know, I started doing these pieces that just said dope, you know? And they all saw it and I was like, well, shit. Like maybe I should keep exploring it. So, since then, I mean, I started, you went from making two-dimensional pieces to actually building boxes that say dope all over that you can sit on. We have some that sit on the table. And then from that, in 2019, I did an event. It was at the Whiskey Blue where I invited six of Atlanta's top photographers to come out and shoot people sitting on my dope box. Yeah. We created this whole series called Sitting on Dope. And so, after they did the photos, the plan was to do a follow-up art show of me making artwork from the photos. But, you know, COVID hit. So, I have all of these assets, you know, that eventually I will do a show called The Dope Show. You know, so I did collaborations with photographers. And then I did collaborations with artists like my guy Fabian Williams, Hobo Inc., Paper Frank, Melissa Mitchell, Jeremy Brown, you know, and a bunch of others. So, at some point we're gonna do the show because everybody has to see all of this work and all of these collaborations together. And the thing that I like about that dope series, the best, and even when I first came up with the idea, I thought it could be a great mechanism to get artists to collaborate, you know? Because, I mean, I don't know if it's like that, like this in comedy, but a lot of times, I think artists really don't work together that much. Well, you know, comedy is such a solo sport. Unless it's a movie or like a sketch or something, I don't really see too much collaboration having. Okay, so, but as far as you writing your stand-up, is it just you or do you work with other people? Well, it works like this. It's just like, say, everybody has a circle of friends, trust me, you might show up to the club and do all this new shit that you wrote. Your partner might give you the best tag. Don't say that, just throw this in there. Oh, you know what you should say. That's the way that comedians gotta laugh when you see us outside riffing or joining on somebody. And it's like, that's how we keep the flex, the muscles flex, you know what I mean? And so, like all of my best creative ideas that came from Joan, you know, like I mean, comedy, man, it has fueled so many ideas, the spontaneity of it, being able to think on your feet. And so, even like with a lot of my artwork, just the wittiness of it, like when I explain this shit, people are like, ah, shit, you know. See, when you said that, it's like the wittiness of the comedy, to me as a performer, as a comedian, it's like, fuck the jokes that I wrote, right? Like, all the laughs that I get in between jokes that I wrote, that's the real kind. Yeah, because that's when my fuck's like, oh, shit. The joke I wrote is supposed to work. Right, right, nah, I feel you on that. I mean, it's like watching a movie and you laughing at some shit that's off to the left. Like, you know, the scene is here, but there's some motherfucker back here doing some crazy ass shit and you just see that in the laugh. Just like the black dude on Robocop. I don't know if people remember that one scene on Robocop where all the cops was rolling out and they was hitting the corner real hard, about 20 police cars and it was a black dude selling hot dogs and he just looked up. He just looked up, he was like, they're going to kick somebody out. Classic most comedy I've ever seen. Because the shit is off to the left. Right, that was his one life. Yeah, man, yeah, so I did a, in 2019, I did a show at Wish Gallery, you know, smaller spot, but the whole thing was really targeted towards, you know, Gen Z, the millennials and it was called the Million Likes and it was based on America's, well, really the world's fascination of just like fame and celebrity and losing their soul. And so I had a lot of those pieces in there that was speaking directly to, like giving you like those witty shit, like at first you don't get it, but then you're like, oh, shit, like that's what he's talking about, you know. So that's fun, man. And like you have like your crew that you, you know, that you bounce things off and riff with artists work the same way. I mean, I have guys that I could be up at one o'clock in a month. I call, yo, Chris, what you think of, you know? So I promise- See, I'm that guy. I call everybody way too much. Yeah, but that's good. I mean, I, and you gotta, you gotta have those, you know what I mean? I, when I was in art school, like I remember at the time when my teacher was telling me about the value of having a studio mate yet. And at the time I wasn't really tripping off of that shit. But when you, but when you get out and when you working and it's just you with that one light on at two o'clock in the morning, you kind of wish you had people to bounce things off of. Yeah. And people who know how to respectfully do it. Right. You know what I mean? Right. Some people like to take over your ideas. Like, well, shit, you ain't doing it. Bitch, I ain't finished with it yet. Let me finish, please. Let me finish cooking. Yeah. You can always tell when they bout to steal your shit, though. This what comedians always say when they bout to steal it. What? I got a joke like that. No, you don't. No, you don't, bitch. You don't have a joke like that, bitch. How you got a joke about my surgery, bitch? Right. I was, I was better have a surgery. You're the fucking last. You're the land motherfucker, man. Man, drop that social one more time. So we can stay in the room. Yeah, the social. D.L. Warfield. So just, you can find me everywhere, just putting that name up. Or you could use the hashtag, D.L. Warfield did this and all kinds of shit come up. Cause I can't even remember some of the shit that I did. Well, look, bro. I know this is your introduction to the trap, but definitely don't let this be your last time. You see the type of, we putting our own business out, too. Like this, that T-shirt right there, the cream long sleeve shit. I mean, I'm like, that shit is cold. And I stand in the other stuff, man. But man, as soon as I seen that, I was like, ah, that's a great piece. That's exactly what we're doing. That's a great piece. Cause that's not even our lane. We comedians, remember? We trying to figure this shit out. Hey, but you know what? I think it's beauty and not having all the fucking answers down. You know what I mean? I mean, I've done a lot of things, but I know I don't have all the answers. And so I think to me that is it, led, I mean, aided my longevity. Because I'm always trying to figure shit out on them. I'm always curious versus me sitting while I fucking know everything and then you don't learn shit else. So I'm trying to figure that shit out, too. Well, there you have it, folks. That won't be your last time, but we're gonna be looking forward to getting a project standing here in the future. 85 South Show, Black Excellence. My man, D.L. Warfield.