 Welcome to episode two of the 1878 FM podcast, which it's now called when we started last week, the name wasn't hadn't gone through the lawyers know. I know that because I'm the one who come up with the name, but to be fair, literally all day afterwards was like, I need a name for this people come up with some good ones, but we went, we went with that. Now, there was a good one. They're not creative director on toffee TV. You weren't here. You should have been here. The lads, the lads. As creative director it's also my, my option to stay in bed. Create bed. I need to sleep. I need to sleep and that's when I come up with my best ideas. As we discussed last week, boys. Ped is still stuck on taxi times. I think, I think what it was is you just got into that mode and liked that time of the day better. And you've, that's now your go-to time, isn't it? I think people who get up in the morning are weird, man. Like, what is there to get up for in the morning? See, I'm the other way round, Ped. I'm, I'm different because I'm, I'm still a sort of hangover or hangover is the wrong word, but it's still a hangover from when I used to get up early in the morning. So I'm better in the morning. I can't work. I don't do nights. I mean, I do nights for watching telly and having a bit, but I don't do nights for working. Seize the day and all that kind of thing. See, but I was a postman and this is like where I used to listen to Dave when I was a postman and I hated it. It was hell. Like on your days off. Listen to Dave was hell. No, no. You know what? Funny enough, I used to always like, there's a hierarchy when you're in a post office, like when you're in the sorting office. And I used to use to put on, obviously Dave's, Dave's show. I mean, it wasn't a strictly Dave's show. I mean, you know, but. Yeah, but he was a, but you were, you, you were the everton and then they liked it. You were the one people listen for. And I used to turn the radio over and people used to go put, put something that has music on because obviously used to talk for long, long spells of time. And he's put some music on and then they turn over and put like radio cities on and he wants to listen to Radio City. If you were a postman, does that mean you have completely, completely shaved hairless legs like all other postmen do? Well, I'm ginger so you can't tell the difference, but I did wear shorts all the time. Is that like part of the year? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like UPS. Yeah, you wear shorts no matter the weather. You get like really, you get really hot, don't you carry in all that bag, the bags around the stuff. Even like in the winter. Yeah, yeah. Honestly, it's, it's, it's such an active job. Cos you, when you start with half five, you're on your feet half, half, half, half. No, no. I mean, I've seen you in half five. It's just that you've not been to bed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's the thing. Or I'm going home from an hour. And yeah, it's, it's a very strange job. And you just, people are just manic all the time because they've got to be up early. And yeah, and all people want to talk to you're a fan. That's very strange. Really, really strange. And all me misses a God might be the only person they're going to speak to all day. And I'm like, yeah, but it's not going to be me, is it? Like I'm not the person to talk to. I've got a letter to Pope. You know what I mean? Although, can I just say one thing? And just because, but I did want to live it while I was talking about this. Someone's 100th birthday card from the Queen. Genuinely, like genuinely, like that was a real honour by the way. Yeah, they came up to me like, they came up to me like, you know, you've got this on your hand. Can you make sure it gets there by a certain time? Because, you know, I got there and the whole family were waiting for it. And I got to hand it over to the lady. And I just, it was very, very surreal. That's my only connection to her majesty. So I got to do that once, which is, you know, the other. And the woman obviously was, you can imagine how overjoyed she was by it. It was very, very strange, but also, what's a bit of an honour to do that for someone? That is an achievement. Andy, are you? Are you? Which side of the fence are you on? Are you the early, early bed? Personal question. It's only episode two. We've gone there. Let's get to know each other better. I like staying up. I like, I like, I'm really annoying. I won't go to bed. So I'll stay up and watch like NFL really late or getting to watching Curb your enthusiasm. I'm like, I stay up to like one or two o'clock in the morning. It's absurd. Absolutely madness. I'm putting films on. I'm putting films on at one o'clock in the morning. I'm ashamed though. I don't go to, you know, I don't go to bed like generally till late anyway, but I do get up early in the morning. I mean, I've had, I looked at my Fitbit today. I've had three and three-quarter hours of sleep. I couldn't go. Last night was, you know that night where you drifted, I was watching south of the river, the Netflix stock on the footballers in South London, which was brilliant. And I was watching it and I drifted off and then I woke up and then when you wake up like half an hour later when you fell asleep and you just can't go back to sleep and I ended up going to sleep about four o'clock and then I was up with my boy to have a bit of a walk. I've had this thing recently where it's literally like Groundhog Day where I keep waking up at the same time and it's 5.28 in the pissing morning. And for three days on the bounce, I kid you not, I woke up and I've got no idea what time it is because the clock is on my phone and you know, I'm charged up on the floor. I sort of roll over and I reach out and I'm a bit like, I know it's early, but what time is it? It can't be. It's 5.28 again. Three days on the bounce. I have no idea why. Any significance to that time? Anything like that? No. I live next to a train track, but there isn't a train at 5.28. So it's not like that's woke me up. We don't have a milkman. I don't know what it is. It's just bizarre. That is a mystery. That is bizarre. A previous life or something. For shadowing. That was a film. That is for shadowing and something to happen. 5.28 with Dave Vitti. That would be great. 5.28. That's a good title, isn't it? It could be a wake up. It could be a wake up show in the morning. Wake up at a beautiful morning. When I was a kid it used to be, because obviously you'd have your standard going live, but he was always filling breakfast shows on a Saturday morning, and one of them was the 11.08 from Manchester. 8.15. That was it. 8.15. We did 11.08. This is Peds Commute again. The 11.08 from Manchester. 8.15. This is why you're always late. That's it. I was early. I got there early. I worked on the railway as well. I worked on the railway. What happened at 11.08? It was very significant 22 years ago. I don't know. That was another weird programme. Where you get hyper people who have probably been up all night to do kids breakfast telly. Something I think is massively missing in the world at the moment. There's kids breakfast telly. Where adults can watch as well. To wake up on, I don't wake up on Saturday mones, but if I do wake up on Saturday mones I find bleeding Saturday kitchen on. I just feel terrible for the kids now. Do you know what the problem is though? But they're not interested. The kids have got no interest in telly anymore. And genuinely, and this is quite a sad state of affairs, I think the days of kids telly have gone. Because they're not interested. I mean, Bush, you'll testify for this. You've got kids. All they want to do is watch their own thing on their own iPad or their own phone. And the idea of them sitting down in front of a box and having somebody else decide when stuff is on is just alien to them. My kids watch a lot of YouTube. They've got these people who open boxes of toys. Unboxing videos. They watch that. I was telling our eldest Erin the other day about we used to have to sit through Wacka Day with Timmy Mallott, right? Just to watch 15 minutes of Transformers. You'd have to sit through that program because they'd split it into two bits. One at the middle, one at the end. Whereas now they want it instantly, so they wouldn't sit around like they've said. It's like Top of the Pops as well. There might be one song that you wanted to hear and you would sit through 27 minutes of somebody else's curated playlist just so that you could listen to that one. Whereas our kids are just a bit like, if I want to hear it now, if I want to hear it again, I'll put it on again now. I would sit there and waste 25 minutes. To me, though, Dave, this sounds like you're just gutted because your natural trajectory as a radio presenter should have been breakfast, TV or Top of the Pops. I just think you're gutted that they took those two opportunities away from you. I think they've been good on Top of the Pops. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. And then, then, strictly, I can see Dave. I can see Dave actually doing strictly, but I want him to do the jungle. That's really what I want him to do. Do you? Dave, I think you'd be great in the jungle. I don't think I get on in the jungle because I get really claustrophobic. You're outside. Isn't that the opposite of claustrophobic? No, no, he's sticking a coffin full of snakes. We know what you say. There's a metaphor for the media industry. You say snakes don't bother you. When you go in and go, you see, I'd be rubbish because they'd go to me. I'd be good in it, because obviously I'm an entertainer. People would watch me. Of course they would. You're the housewife's favourite. Watch your fears. Now, I'd be stuck here because I'd go, naturally, I couldn't pretend I'm not scared of spiders. I couldn't. So therefore, I'd go and I'd go, I don't really like spiders. I'd go awa, you bit rats and I'd go, not a lover. Okay, snakes, not great. First trial, I'd be voted what would it be. I'd be with that bugger on with spiders and that would be it. I wouldn't even put it on. I'd go full Helen Flanagan from years ago. I'd just go, go on and faint it. Jillian McKee, you know. Oh, Jillian McKee's a poo lady. That's what I would be like, just to get out of it. Doesn't she look at the people of Poodle? She did, she did for a while, which was worrying. Sorry, Dave. You know the start of that as well now, that other thing that terrifies me, where they stick them out on the top of that building that form thing. And I'm just like, no way. I mean, I struggle at Alton Towers now. The older I get, I feel worse with heights. Hang on, Baz, we jumped off a mountain. What are you? We jumped off a mountain in Wales. We jumped off the top balcony as well. We jumped off the top balcony, which I've wanted to do loads of times. But me and you jumped off a mountain quite literally in Wales. So why would you be scared of any of this stuff? No, I suppose if you're there. Hang on, so people don't know this. So there's like a thing in Wales where you go to the top of a mountain. This was forever, and you know the podcast that was talking about. They strapped us into these things and then they kicked us off the mountain. Zip wire. Zip wire thing over the quarry. Yeah, but you're like face face doing a Superman. But as we're up there, this is genuine. As we're up there, we're getting strapped in and everything. It takes ages because of all the safety. And some fella, his phone goes off. And this is genuine, by the way. Your wife's just gone into labour. And we were just sitting there, but we were still dangling at this point. And we were like, are we going or what? And he went. I don't know. My missus has just gone into labour. I was like, I don't give a monkey's mate. I want to go to the bottom. Just post me off. He went, didn't he? Yeah, he just got off. He went and we had to wait for him. Gwyn, just went and went. Gwyn went and we had to wait for Q2. Would he not have been quicker getting to his destination? Just with us. And if he'd actually had to de-harnist and get on the stairs. 100% he would have been quicker. Obviously, due to events last week, there was no football this weekend. So we weren't going to touch on that. But from a football perspective, we spoke last week after the derbyn we were talking about the Arsenal game and obviously Jordan Pickford news come after that. And we were saying, can we keep the momentum going? But do you actually think, as a result of Jordan Pickford's injury that in some respects, it was not a blessing because obviously you wouldn't say that. But is it good that Everton didn't actually play the game there from keeping momentum going? Yes. In a week of sad news, if there was to be one positive to come out of that, I would say that it gives us longer to get Jordan Pickford fit again. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think that's... Here's a question, right? I think Bazzy might have even tweeted this the other day. Do you think we're actually cursed? Do you think we've got worse luck than any other football club in world history? Sometimes I think that we might be cursed. We are cursed, aren't we? Have we got... Can I see this one? You can finish the answer because I'd said this the other day, but has it got worse since Jordan Pickford done Van Dijk? Were we fully that day? Were pitches of our club put everywhere and that's just thrown in it? Has it feels like it's got worse since that day? I believe so. Well, hang on. Just on the case point of view, we were league champions when the First World War started. Correct. League champions when the Second World War started. Correct. So if anyone wants any signs of an oncoming war, you're fine. Just wait. You're fine. You're fine. It'll be when Everton won the league. That's when you want to win. You can't ask for two. I mean, obviously, we know what happened when we had our greatest ever side as well. You know, in 85. Kick that out of Europe. You can't put that on Jordan Pickford, but we're clearly, clearly cursed, aren't we? Someone has done a doll or something or whatever. Is it the new stadium? I feel like maybe we've built on a burial mound sowing out of the shining. You know what I mean? I'm sure there was a few bodies down there. I can't say where they come from, but... I'm sure there was something down there. Go down there and check it out. The bad luck, though, goes back further than the foundations at Bramleymore Dock, though, doesn't it? That's the thing. Absolutely. Absolutely. I do worry about the fitness thing, though. I mean, curse and hexes and stuff aside. There's definitely... There's definitely something going on with our... with our, you know, in terms of the physio Everton at the moment, in terms of our fitness, because I've never known so many injuries and pulling up in warm-ups and all that kind of stuff. The old Finch Farm is cursed. Yeah, maybe Finch Farm is. Is it the burial ground? What I'd say, Andy, the only thing I'd say with that, and you do make a good point, the only thing I'd say with that is we've changed our medical team and physio so much over the last six years. And everyone has. We've had injuries. So it can only be... Well, Finch Farm... But it didn't bury fry. Say, Birmingham was cursed, and he had a wee on each corner flag, and then he lost another six. It's not cursed. It's just Birmingham. That's just Birmingham. It's just Birmingham. Other clubs are broken as well. We have got a... At Finch Farm, though, we have got a bunker, haven't we? In case there's ever a... In case... Cos ICI was over in witness or over there somewhere, and there's actual bunker there. So maybe the fumes from the ICI chemical plant are coming over, and causing mutations. Or maybe we get some windmills there and blow it back, and then the injuries are clear. Maybe. No, we do see... It's weird, though, isn't it? Cos you do see other clubs, and you don't see other clubs at times, because we're so fixated now on our one football club that you don't see what's going on in other clubs and how their injuries are. I've seen Liverpool saying that they've got eight players out of this Champions League. I mean, I don't know whether they are. They could be like... See, you don't even know. They could be like... You've just gone out of care. You've been in the squad once, and they go, and he's out for three. You know what I mean? You don't really know. We just look at it and go, how? But you see, the Pickford one, for me, makes... That is one that I go, and I get that, cos he does like to just leather the ball, don't he? And that causes... Man gets injured kicking balls. And that's a case. But it causes... What I'm saying is it causes... When you hit them through the ball, that's how you pick fines, you know? He does tend to land funny, as well, though, as well, doesn't he? You know, sometimes when he goes and he just... He's airborne, and he goes to come down on his side, on his thigh, as well, and I don't know whether it's that. And he had a lot of shaves to make in that derby, to be fair to him, didn't he? We said this last week, I mean, he was absolutely outstanding in the derby. I mean, we've all seen him... We've all seen him play well, but he was as good as ever. I mean, just worldy after worldy after worldy. Brilliant. He's been... Since he went and seen that psychologist, he's been in really good form, hasn't he? Like steady, I mean. For you, I think I know your answer, but is there any doubt that he is England's number one? I know you're not that bothered, but is there any doubt he is the best English keeper? No, he's easily the best. Cos... The other two, Ramsdale and Pope, they've got good assets, obviously, but I don't think they've got everything like he has. Yeah. And they... He does make... Obviously, we know he makes the occasional gaffer. I don't think it's like... It used to be where it was like kicking the ball straight at somebody else and they'd score from it. I think there's... There are little things he can still get better at. But I think the other two, I think Ramsdale's a really good shot-stopper, but then you see things just go through. No. And Pope, I think, is kicking us. He's wonderful. I think that's always kept... But he's got goal, yes. Yeah, that's always kept pick for the head of the other goalkeepers. And I think, you know, he'll be number one going into the World Cup and then maybe it might be a case of then it becomes open again. I don't know why it would, but you just get that sense with... when the media is sort of looking for alternatives. Cos every time someone else has a good game, they go, oh, the number one's up for it. And then pick for that as a game like he did in the Derby. No one says anything. No one says he's undoubtedly number one. That's the thing with the media, isn't it? They love to build everyone up, but then when pick for that as a good game, they don't say anything. And that's... We did have the member I asked off when Ramsdale made that save at Leicester last season. Didn't want me to post onto the bar. And the athletic done. An article about how he made the save and it was because he practised pushing off his one foot and all that. They did do one about Pickford last week. It's all fair play. It's all fair play. I think the thing with Pickford as well, he's just got that slight edge of madness as well. You know the way that drummers do in bands. They're just wired slightly differently. And I think that's the difference between Ramsdale and Pope is that Pickford's just got that slight air of danger as well, I think, which just sets him above. You're not quite sure what's going on there and I like that. He's got an edge. Yeah, he's got an edge. You know what you're minding of? Mairdach from the 18. It's a mafric, but a bit mad. That's what he reminds me of. A bit mafric is, yeah. I think mafrics don't play by the rules, but they get results. I mean, talking of mafric, have we seen mafric? No, I haven't seen it yet. Oh my God, what a film. Is it good? It's a great movie. I've seen it Andy, yeah. I think it's one of the greatest films I've seen and I think it handled a reboot of kind of quite a... I was worried going into watching it thinking how are they going to do this whole kind of 80s kind of macho thing and make it kind of alright these days. And it was just a brilliant, you know, two and a bit hours of escape and some of the best stunts like proper inner plane stunts I've ever seen in my life. I can't believe it. Question for you, because it's now come on sky I noticed the other day when I was flicking through trying to find something to watch. Now, do I go and watch it at the cinema even though I'm a bit too late or can I watch it at home? I've got surround sound so, you know, will that suffice? I would say, I only watched this day when did I go about a month ago? About two weeks ago. Or something like that. Three, whatever. And watched it in the pictures maybe. Now, this was a really iconic film for me and my wife because this was the first film we ever went to see was Tropcom and I was 14 and she was 16, it was a 15 and she was going, I don't know whether you'll get in and, you know, I just smiled at the gail, I was in. So to go and see, to go and see the sequel 36 years later was and I was like you, Andy, going in thinking I love it. You had said it was good though so that gave me a bit of... I never went to pictures this year though. No, I know you'd seen it. But I went in I went in and watched it on the pictures and the noise and because there's so many unbelievable scenes in it Andy isn't there with the planes and on that, in the pictures. Dave, if you could go and see it in the cinema do it, but it's a brilliant film so you've got an answer. He's not like though, is he Tom Cruise? No, he is. Have you ever interviewed him, Dave? No. No, never met him. Although I've heard that he is and I have to be very careful because he's one of the most litigious men in show business but I believe that he is unique in his style and approach to many things. Yeah. Yeah. Did you see one of his cast in the shelter, funnily enough, didn't you? No, he's genuinely nuts. I mean that when you see what he's prepared to do for films like hang on the side of planes like he wants to go to space to film the next mission impossible. He's genuinely off. It's belief system though. It's belief system, we'll tell him that. No, it's off the field stuff. I'll put that to one side. I've got to take that. You know what I'm saying? That gives him the confidence to do these things. But he's genuinely like as a film star and also he's like 60 and he looks. He doesn't look any different. No, no. The weird thing with Top Gun, he doesn't look that different to how he did in the first movie. So if Scientology can continue to make you look that good then we all need to shine off of it. Maybe we should all bow down to the alien of the lords. Can I bring up something about Top Gun 1 that's possibly contentious but I'm going to do it anyway is that my big problem with Top Gun 1 is this, is that I didn't like the casting of it because I didn't think that Kelly McGillis was good-looking enough for him to fall for her. Controversial. Controversial. You know, and I just felt that, you know. Who would have been your perfect casting for that role? I don't know. I don't know. There's loads of people in there. Linda Lassade. Or Jet from Gladiators maybe. But I just felt that Kelly McGillis wasn't the right person. I'm trying to think. I've got Linda Lassade. I've got Linda Lassade. I've got Linda Lassade. Yeah, but it would have been filmed in 1985, Dave. Come on. Everton had just won the lead. So 8 and 8 would have been perfect. Who would you have had? 85. 85 mid-85. Or someone like Kelly. Kelly Le Broch. No. I was going to say that. That would be good. Kelly Le Broch was around that time. Do you remember that era where you used to go into a pub and buy packs of peanuts, and every time you took one off the cardboard holder on the wall, it would reveal the pictures of someone like Sam Fox or Linda Lassade? Kind of that ballpark person I think we're talking about. What a different generation. To defend Kelly McGillis in this, wasn't it the thing of like the little bit of power as well? Because she was, and wasn't it that? Because he was the Maverick and she was the unattainable. She's the hot instructor who's at the thing and all the fellas are looking at her. The other thing as well to bear in mind, it's about far more than just visual and aesthetic appearances. Of course. Someone's quality and their attractiveness from within. Exactly. That's what the whole package was all about, which is the point that I was trying to make. And she had a nice leather jacket. A leather jacket was excellent. But the way something like this is, wouldn't he have tried it on with Meg Ryan as well? No. Well, that was just me. Meg Ryan's shorter than you. Meg Ryan's some cruisers about six inches. He wears heels though. He wears heels. He's five for five. He's smaller than Ned. Interesting. And to find a man smaller than Ned is incredible. So there you go. Sorry Andy, what were you going to say? They don't say who the baddies are in Top Gun, which I think is interesting. You don't know who the baddies are. What in the new one? In the new one. They don't say whether they're Russia or Afghanistan or anything. There's no name of the actual name of the baddies, which I think was really interesting. Got to be careful. Got to be careful. Got to be careful. Different times, isn't it? It's applied though. Isn't it? It's like it is applied. It's unfair. But Dave watched it because honestly it's real. I'm going to. There's a couple of iconic scenes that were in Top Gun and in this one, you know, on the bike and all that. But from afar, it could just be taken from the first one because he just looks the same. Talking of recommendations and I have that on my list anyway. There's one that I want to ask you about actually because I saw it this morning. I've got a feeling that this might be your territory perhaps. Has anybody watched Barry yet? I've watched all of Barry. It's unbelievable. Like it's the most underrated TV show. It's unbelievable. Good. Well, that's kind of the reaction that I thought I might get and was hoping I might get. And I've now put it top of my to-do list. Genuinely, right? It's the most underrated TV program. Good. Well, I like it. It's about a hit man on the break into Hollywood. OK. It's unbelievable. But it's show Henry Winkler's in it. OK. My mum once told me was my cousin. Weird. I mean, I'll be honest. I thought you were going to shake. My mum once showed me my dad. When he was the Fonz or when he was actually Henry Winkler? No. She said we've got family that goes back to Italy. And she said we were related. I mean, there hasn't been disproof, by the way, that Henry Winkler the Fonz isn't related to me. But it's an amazing program. Dave, honestly. It's like it's something that nobody really else talks about. But it's on HBO in America. So it's one of those shows that they keep on making because it's so good. And even if no one watches it. It's the 30-minute episodes as well. That's good. But it's not like slapstick art. It's like proper dark comedy. It's got like war and factions over like the drug trade in LA. And he's a hit man. And he's a brilliant hit man. But he just wants to be an actor because he's in LA. And it shows you all the LA nonsense and all the hit man nonsense and all the drug dealing nonsense. It's unbelievable. I'll give that up. Unbelievable. I'll tell you what I'm watching at the moment. The capture too. Oh, the capture. I was finished that last night. It's amazing. I've got one to go. Hang on, hang on, hang on. It's terrifying. I'm going to write these down. The capture. The capture on the iPlayer. Did you not see the first one, Dave? No. Oh, it's genuine. It's terrifying. It's terrifying. The premise of the first season is and I won't go any further is a soldier is accused of killing a woman. This is in the first 10 minutes. I'm not ruining anything. And he swears blind that he had nothing to do with it. And that book. Don't go any further. Honestly, where it goes is mad. And it's got, it's one of those shows that's got one of those. Do you know sometimes like BBC shows or bring like a big sort of or well-known American star into the show. And the show might, he might only be in it for like 10 minutes, but it gives it that little bit of hint of glamour or you know what I mean? And it's the. Ron Pailman. Pailman, who was in Sons of Anarchy. And he was. So he's in it. And he just gives it like a little edge because he's got a big American. Well, he's a huge star, but he's a very well-known star. And it's a, but the second series finished last night. And it was so, so good. You know, as you watch the push. Never heard of it. Never heard of either of those two programs. Mate, on BBC iPlayer, the capture, check it out. It's honestly, it's brilliant six. I don't want to let you go down. I've been watching married at first sight UK. So. OK. As if that puts me off the podcast. I hate reality TV. And the reason I hate reality TV is for that, that, that right there. There's an amazing show out there that I love. Right. And someone else is watching utter dros like that. No, no, no, no. Get it. Get it right. I don't care if he's, you know, the afternoon drive time presents. And I'm not bothered. I'll say it as it is here, right? Dros like that. And I used to. I think this partly about I'm a celebrity as well. Dros like that. I'm a celebrity. Stop great TV from being made. No, it doesn't. I'm a celebrity. The only thing I'm a celebrity kind of interferes with is Christmas 24. It's what it interferes with. It's what it interferes with. But Christmas. Yeah. Yeah, that's all. You listen. That's just part of the course. But it's Christmas 24. When will you start watching Christmas 24 by the way? No, probably November. OK. Maybe October. So yeah, there you go. Check out the capture. It's absolutely brilliant. We're not here to advertise. No, I'm telling you. I'm telling you. It's on the iPad. I don't know whether what you said it was like you were. No, no. This is what we can see in a fallow week footballing wise. Which is where we are just in a minute, right? Then obviously we need to talk about other stuff. And I like the fact that we've used this platform to discuss film and TV. And nobody leaned in like he was the Scouts Phillips Gofield. No. No, never. He only needed a spin of wheels to say you've worn a loaf of bread. I'm not being flit. I'll do that if we can get the equivalent of Hollywood. We'll be sat next to me, right? Yeah. Fully called it off. Fruit and veg. Yeah. Bring your fruit and veg. You've got this week's alech chi. There you go. Tenna to put on your alech chi. I mean, whereas, whereas this morning comes. They're running man, innit? I mean, what's going on next? Food parcels and do you know the campo? You've won a weeks food parcels. I tell you what, I wouldn't mind that. I wouldn't mind that to be honest. That would be a good one. Do you know? You love all these people because they're the same height as your hand. I've got no problem. But you've got more if you're with my with my height than I am. I'm the three. No, no, I'm the three. You are the three. You're a Viking, leave me there. Everton's trying to goalkeeper back to football. I saw that. Yeah. From Leicester, isn't he? Elden Jacob Povitch. Jacob Povitch. Jacob Povitch. Sure, yeah. Now the only worry with this is does this mean Jordan Pickford is if the injury is worse or is it just the case of Andy Lonergan, third goalie's injury worse than what he thought. I'm hoping it's plan B. Yeah. I miss, what happened to Jal Virginia with his strange black bin man's gloves? I love them. He's gone to he's gone to Holland to play for Canberra, isn't he? Canberra, yeah. He's gone to play for a team named after a cheese. Do we still own him? Yeah, we still own him. We still own him. He's on loan to Canberra. I've just been sold it's basically just an insurance policy. Just to make sure. Just to make sure. Yeah, he's on loan at Canberra, isn't he? In Holland. Emergency goalkeeping signings always remind me of it's an everton moment I'll never forget. Do you remember we had emergency drafted in Espin Bards? Oh yes, I was there. I was there. That was a white heart laying wasn't it? Yeah, it was. Because we were there and suddenly he was a bit like he came out. I was thinking, hang on, he doesn't play for us. When did they get him from? He does now. Especially we get him from and literally we were there. The best thing about him. It was terrible, wasn't it? The best thing about him was his trackies were falling down all game. Robbie King got a hat trick. We were good that day but they had four shots out on that winning. He was dreadful. He was dreadful. He was dreadful. We had a... He had trackie bottoms on. Wasn't that when Richard Wright fell out the loft? Was that the issue? No, he fell out the loft at somewhere else. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, it might have been actually, but the worst thing, and this is, by the way, I want to use a way here. The worst thing, I'm going to tell you by where it said, don't stand on the grass where the sign was and he jumped and landed on the sign and done the sign. I'm going to use a terrible way here. Well, not a terrible way but a horrible way. I just mean the guset of his pants where he bit his knees. I hate that way. A horrible way. It is a bad way, but you see sometimes you have to go through the pain of the bad way to fully encapsulate visually what it was like. And it's guset. Put it this way. There was no camel toe with him. It was literally by his knees then trackies that day. And I think gus poeis go the header that Zach would have saved and it went through it was what a terrible afternoon. But I've got another one for you because emergency goalies in Everton, you know, a dance that we like to do. Remember Sandra Bestervelt? New Castle. Came in, one game, New Castle away, got beat soon enough. Never played again. Can't remember that at all. I don't remember that either. That was about 2000. Why you do what you do and we do what we do. Exactly. You could speak. This is why you're creative director of Toffy TV. There you go. I was on this podcast a couple of weeks ago on Basterd, the same podcast. This week, very good, the 10th pound podcast. It's called Couple of Young lads. And they would say we're some of Steffan Vessels. So another goalie thing. Right here. Do you remember what happened when Steffan Vessel played in the FA Cup fan? I went, yeah, the chippy outside being down. They went, yeah. I was like, how do I know that? How do I remember Steffan Vessels and the blue dragon being down? Yeah. Was that like, what games? Was it Oldham and Rowman? It went. The 80 for the 80. We were playing Chelsea on the Wednesday in the semi-finals at the E-cup. And we played Steffan. We've had some. We haven't had Greek. I mean, we had Jan Mocher who let 1-3 was on. In fact, Jan Mocher. 2-0. Was it 2-0? 2-0, yeah. Yelavitch. Yelavitch at the end of deflection. Just bet it! I remember the video. And it went in. And we've also had, of course, Carlo Nash, Evertonian who also played in the third round of the FA Cup. We got beaten that, didn't we? Batty Boris off he played. The coldest night ever. That was the coldest night ever. Park in the world ever. It was Manus. It was Cubie. It was captain. He basically had the start of the second half. Cubie was captain. He stood by the bench asking to go off. And after about three minutes into the second half he just walked off. There's your captain, lads. To be fair to him, he was only 21 at the time. He was 21. He was a young lad. He had the 36th birthday last week. He was older than Phil Jagielke. And he's now four years younger than him. He was there, but it was just 36th, 28th birthday. But to be fair, a little story with you, Cubie. We went to Finch Farm Cup three years ago or something. And met him and what. He was doing some shooting, which I absolutely love the yach. I love them. But some of the shooting, it took him about 100 takes to do this volley. But when we interviewed him afterwards, oh, my God. He was on the machine, wasn't he? He looked. He just looked like he could still play. It was unbelievable. It was unbelievable. I was really excited when we signed here. I genuinely thought this was, you know, some proper firepower up front. Kind of what we need at the minute, to be honest with you. Well, we got the case. He stays up there. He into the case. 21 goals he got, didn't he? He was brilliant. Then the next season. He hadn't started the next season great, but then got injured, didn't he? He was just jumping for a hitter. And that kind of. And then when he came back, he preferred Louis Sahar, but Jacobi, I thought, was still better. Was it all time, that wasn't it? It was just a weird time. We had such a good team, but the striker situation was just a little bit. Jacobi thought, we thought Andy Johnson was going to be the answer. Then we thought B.C. was going to be the answer. Then Jacobi, then Louis Sahar. It was such a weird time. He all scored goals, but you couldn't quite. Do you mean Beckford as well? You couldn't quite sort of, not rely on them. I mean, Sahar was brilliant. A Matian, just a Matian. The latter would be the same, a Matian, but a Matian, if we would have had Romelu Lukaku as the striker in that moist team, instead of, because Rom was, for four years for us, you could depend on them scoring goals. And he played most weeks, didn't he? He would have only been 12 though. He would have been 12, but a Matian, if you would have been able to, if you couldn't put one person in that team, would have been good. Do you remember one of the biggest mysteries? Did you get these things with players a little bit like Deli Alley, where they just suddenly lose it? I know, I was thinking, you know, that Yelevich was such an impact player for that one season when, do you remember when he turned up and was just brilliant? Absolutely. It was a great time to be in Evertonian. And then he just kind of lost his mojo, didn't he? It's the same as kind of, I guess Deli Alley has a little bit. The difference being though, Andy, is the fact that, you know, we signed Deli Alley four years after he's so lost his mojo. That's a good point. That's very much a typical ever trait, isn't it? You know, I mean, it's one thing when you have them and then they go off the boil, but don't buy them four years after they've gone off the boil and actually four or five different managers have told you that. I wonder, how is he getting on over at Besiktas? Is he doing okay? Do you think they released a video of him doing a few nutmeg stuff? He scored last week and got injured in the same game, and he got beat last night and he wasn't involved. The good news is that his hairline is lower. Well, sheank was there with his full hair. So fair play to him. The man who can turn full bald with three strands into Dave Vitty's type hair on a matchday. It's incredible. Fortunately, we only paid 28 million for Towson. We got to go and watch the team train once. It was like a Wednesday afternoon. There was nothing special about it. We just got invited to go and watch them train. And we're standing over the balcony and watch them train. And honest to God, Towson's hairline, it was like, have you ever seen Huck when Huck's wig gets taken off him? Right? He's just got all... It was like that, wasn't it? But yeah, we filmed it and we were told not to film. We were told to stop filming and then on the Saturday, there he is with his full head of hair. The spray can had been out. Is he spraying that on? Yeah, he's spraying genuinely. But the match thing is he is takers. And he's had all this time to rehabilitate his knee. Go on, get your ass sorted, lad. He could have come back, like I said, with Dave. Can it sort it? Just lovely. Listen, what is it with my hair? Is that a good thing? That's a great thing. So Towson coming back with your... He's had the scout holiday. The scout holiday. Get your teeth done and your hair done. He's had all that time to rehabilitate. But last night he had lusious locks. But today he'll be like David Armstrong from Southampton Play. John Luke Picard. I think your hair looks nice, Bas. Thank you, Dave. Yours is better. Bas sprays is with a colour in the summer as well. Yo, you've got it. You've got it. It's a genuine colour. One day he just walked in. He walked in one day and I was like, it's Peter Eden, the 1986 Cuffer. A lot's going on. A lot's going on. I've gone, sprayed it, three-file Ravanelli. So I had to bring the white feather back, do you know what I mean? Ahead of obviously everything I've got, this game is on at the weekend. I'm playing Westland United, which we know the game is on. It's now moved to Skye, because Skye had lost the Chelsea Liverpool game, which was their game on Sunday. So Westland 250 in the Sunday's live on Skye. This is an op, even though it's going to be a difficult game, Westland are playing Silkeborg on Thursday in Yoraf away, which just complicates things a little bit for them, which is good. But this represents, even though it's a hugely difficult game, it does represent an opportunity for Everton to get up and run and so to speak with the windows in a home of Godderson. Yeah, definitely. You know, and it's, it's, it's all, you know, Westammer a good side now under Moise. It's going to be a tough test, but I think, you know, we were saying this last week, weren't we? The fact that it's all about building a foundation at the moment and we feel that we are moving forward. And I think, yeah, we've got to try and use a home game like that to try and convert that foundation and that promise into some actual points because, because we, you know, we need them and we don't want to get to a situation where suddenly a few weeks time Frank's going to be under pressure because of where they are in the league, points-wise. Also, I feel like we're ready for a run. I feel like we've got a run in us at some point. If we can just get a, we've been quite unlucky really, I think in a few, in these first few games of the season. So if we can just get it to go our way a little bit, then I genuinely think they're capable of putting a little bit of a run together. I love seeing it, you know, when they all kind of celebrate together when they have scored. They've got such a good team. They've got a good team spirit at the moment. They've taken me back to that kind of, you know, the Halcyon days of when Delafeyo and Lukaki used to celebrate together and Pinar and all that kind of stuff. It was just like, you could tell they had a really good bond between them and I think we've got that with this group at the moment. They just need the rubber the green slightly and for some stuff to go our way, hashtag VAR. Do you know what I mean? I mean, Pair, if we're going into an international break show it will be greater to get a win on a Sunday and then go into that two weeks with on the back of a win. Yeah, and so it's of course gone off the back of what they were saying there. I think in, I think they old me, like, you know, as a child with, you know, before everything corrupted me. You'd be like, we're ready to give someone a hide. We're ready to batter someone. Cos we used to always batter someone every season like a father or a sister. You're generally West Ham. Yeah. And part of me thinks that's where we are now. We think we're ready to batter someone or go on a run like Andy Sain, but I don't know whether football quite still works like that anymore, just because of all the tactics and analytics and everything that goes into football these days. I don't think you can sort of say that anymore. I mean, Bournemouth, but I'll give it to them. No, no, but I don't think Bournemouth were ready. I don't think anyone looked at Bournemouth when they're going to get back on that. I don't think it just happened organically. I think, but I do think we are ready to get something going and then going back to our data. It's important that we do that quickly. So we're not waiting and waiting and waiting. And then all those outside voices start jumping on Frank Lampard again and we're in a situation because it is a weird season with everything going on and with the Whale Cup. Let's just hope everything falls in place for us on Sunday and we can just get that win. Also as well. We talked about this a little bit last week, but I think we're hopefully seeing a transition where Everton are moving away from that team that will reverse your bad run for you. Do you mean you've got a bad run going on? Come and play Everton. Do you have a score for 10 games? Come and play Everton. Hopefully we're a bit nastier, a bit meaner, a bit snider, which we've all been calling out for a little bit because we've been soft asses for too long. Hopefully that kind of turnaround is going to, that's the thing that will lead to sticking a few wins together back to back or going on. Even just like having clean sheets or unbeaten runs, stuff like that just builds momentum which is just what we desperately need. Absolutely. We're hopefully going to call that losing this level. They haven't released training videos and he's in the middle of it scoring goals so getting him back would. And I think the one thing going into this game which maybe has gone against us a little bit against West Ham over the last couple of years has been their midfield has taken over games because of the likes of Declan Rice and City. Where now I look at our midfield and I feel like we've got such a strong midfield. All of a sudden especially with Ghana back so that could be where it's won all off. Dave, before we go, just going back to kids programmes because it was just when you were talking to me that I didn't think he... Do you remember why don't you? I do remember why don't you but I will put in the fact that my kids TV knowledge of UK telly is not what it should be and that's because I was born and brought up in Hong Kong and I missed a lot of stuff so it's almost like my... I don't have the same knowledge as I would do with somebody else who was 48 years old. Do you remember why don't you? Do you remember why don't you live with them? He did, yes, in Sefton Park. No, it was Ottersfield. No, it was Ottersfield. He didn't want to go to Sefton Park walking through, he remember, that sticks in my mind from doing it. But just again with it, when you were saying before about how kids consume it, me and Pead have often had this conversation that like when we were kids you just watched what was on the telly so we'd watch shows with our parents, wouldn't we? It's like my 11-year-old's got his iPad. To be honest, he's watched Cobra Kai, loves Cobra Kai, he's watched a bunch of things. But that's Netflix, it's not cheap. It's been in control of what you watch and the thing is that, my daughter's 15 now and that generation of kids have been in charge of what they've watched or listened to all the way through which has just been one of those things to say, the idea of sitting down and have somebody else tell you when you're going to watch something or the idea that you can't watch that episode now you've got to wait a week. They can't comprehend it. I see this as well, I slightly disagree with you though Dave, because I think choice is an illusion. In what way? Well because, right. I've had this conversation with the younger members of our staff a few times is that you think you've got choice but everything they listen to and everything they watch is being chosen for them by the algorithm and it's a case of if you like this you will like this or if you like listening to this you will like listening to this and all these playlists. One of the reasons I love radio and I've always loved radio and I used to love TV the way it was even though I love the way TV is now is is that you were forced to watch certain things that you would never watch so if you went on holiday I'd always end up listening to the best of the carpenters or something like that right and even though you go I hate this you'd end up liking certain songs or like Fleetwood Mac or something like that and it's the same with TV it's like you would or a film when we were kids and a certain film would be on and be like well this is the only thing we can watch and you'd all end up watching it and you'd all end up talking about it whereas now even though there is so much choice it's the same things it's just that they watch them at different speeds and funny enough I remember listening to you and Chris Moore's years ago and I remember and it was sort of like this was like the death nail for me it was like every morning radio or every afternoon was like the water cooler experience and I think it might have been like Lost or something like that and it was like we can't talk about this now because everyone's watching it and that to me was a really sad moment in what way what we do as communities or listening to radio shows or us I think that's genuinely one of the worst things about it it's why I think Netflix are only one of the last ones to do this now but I think that Netflix should get rid of that system of putting everything on because everyone else has stopped doing that everyone else is doing weekly shows because it gives everyone enough time to watch it and have a chat about it so we started watching the capture the other night season 2 we watched it and we got up to so episode 4 finished the other day and I was like should we watch the next one I'll put the kettle on and it finished and it went you've got to wait and it was almost like what I couldn't believe it but if it had known through TV that's on next Sunday night at 9 o'clock because you're used to it on the iPlayer and they've done this before you have to wait for it it's a good thing but once you give it too much I think it is because as you said the whole thing about what you'd describe as the event TV the risk of an overly grand title but just that thing where you go into work or you'd be having a pint on a Friday night and everybody would be talking about oh my god did you see it and it was just really that shared experience was really powerful and I mean listen during lockdown it was great having everything available there and then because nobody was going anywhere and everybody just had to have something to chew through but I don't know maybe there's happy medium as you say by not releasing everything at the same time and then people can at least sort of work through something in a similar time there's only really like I guess there's only things like I'm a celebrity though for that kind of or certainly live sport sport is probably one of the last things that's what making, I mean even Sky did that was their slogan it's only live once that's their slogan for the season that's the right and that's why sports wear so much money now and that's why we are where we are so just thinking they wouldn't be interested if they played all the season in one go and just released it all say to the end and see what happened listen quickly talking about lost do you know that was the first thing that I sat down and watched during the depths of lockdown and I literally went back and I watched all 121 episodes and they were an hour each and there's 22 episodes in a season as well 121 all told watched a lot of them I loved lost it's one of it was one of the it was sort of like probably the last great TV show from America which was actually didn't come out of like HBR don't like that and it's interesting when you do watch it a second time you pick up on all the little things that you lay in later on in the first episode actually you pick up on something about something that you lay in later on are you not saying in case it's a spoiler no exactly that's the problem isn't it that's the problem that's the problem we won't ruin it for you no you can't I'm not going to watch it I'm just having some of the TV so I'm a massive like Marvel nuts and stuff so I've been watching She-Hulk which is a comedy quite funny it's funny rather than being like series tones a comic book things can ever be but last week one of the characters in it was watching the Sopranos and there was two spoilers and people started kicking off saying that you've just give away and Sopranos is 15 years old isn't it at least so people were kicking off about that so I've got to be very careful about what I say about lost you know what I mean you've got to respect the process haven't you you've got to no not again no not again no not this week let's leave it there let's leave it there that would be fantastic and move them off the table because some of the games are off this weekend fingers crossed for Neil or as Ned started calling him yesterday Neil Mopai Neil honestly Dave I struggle with the pronunciation of is it Mopai is it Mopai and I get that and people say different things but Neil I would have thought was fairly standard in uniform he said it for the third time and I went it's on a video and I went hang on why are we calling him Neil and you know what he said that sounds like my four year old niece she started doing laying in French in a like nursery class and we said to her what's shop in French and she went the ship there you go that's as good an answer as you're going to get and respect that kind of answer from Ned so fair play so let's open Neil Mopai Mopai I don't know what he called him let's hope he gets the shooting boots on this weekend and we get the important three points David Viti it's been an absolutely pleasure to get on your paddle board this weekend I will be checking if you're on it I will I will well where did you go with the weekend very quickly on it not very far I just went for it I wanted to go because it was a cheap one I didn't pay I didn't pay the full recommended retail price for it I wanted to make sure that it wasn't going to sink so I just went for a little you know a little paddle around was it okay? yeah it was good yeah I mean no leakages no nothing Dave just revealed that he bought his paddle board in the middle aisle of Aldi fair play I tell you what it wasn't far off because what happened was my sister said she goes you know you're after one on Facebook marketplace is selling him they're like end of end of season stock 175 quid all in right delivered I'm like right I love one of them anyway so I speak to this fella and he turns up in a builders van and he's got this box kind of on the front cab of his builders van it was a kitchenware top like a flat back you know like a flat back truck thing with a cement mixer in the back and anyway so he turned off but he was a nice lad it was their official distribution channel four said product but you know it works so I'm happy that's all good isn't it? Dave went into Aldi come out with a paddle board a fire pit and some a chimney and some balanais sauce it's perfect Dave lovely to see you and speak to you and have a good one and hopefully when we reconveen next week we are talking about Everton victory see you next Tuesday boys bye there you go give the video a thumbs up subscribe we'll be here every week it's been another very very interesting one and we will see you next week bye