 The shrooms helped you, you said? How? Let me know how sad I was. I had no idea. Did you wanna, are you glad you found out? 100%, yeah. Did it help with the anger? Like the ecosystem? Oh, I had a two-week period of euphoria, like 10 days. So you do like, do you know how much you did, where you did it, like, what was the situation? Like most people, I didn't know what the dose is, which I just took them. I told this story on my last special where it was like, yeah, it started off silly and goofy, then all of a sudden, like, this darkness came in, it was just this, and it was like, it was a profound sense of sadness. There wasn't a beginning or an ending, it just was, and it was undeniable, and I couldn't figure out. I was like, what is this? Is there something going on with me and my wife? So you know, you just sit there as you're tripping, you're like checking in, and you're like, any answers from the universe? No, something going on with the kids. I know I love my kids, I know they love me. No, that's not it. And then I was just like, all right, what is this? And the second I said that, like, the answer comes into your head, like, that's the amazing things about mushrooms that make me believe in something else and higher power and stuff, and that was the line of my life. Oh, this is how you felt as a kid. And I was of the, you know, the so called, like, I'm awake now, walking around. I was of the belief that what happened to me as a kid didn't bug me and that it was actually a good thing because I'm tough and I'm not a pussy and all of that shit. And then I realized, oh, that was all wrong. That was what I became so I could deal with whatever was going on. And then that was just an avalanche. It kind of just, when I get an answer to something, I don't deny it, I just kind of go with it. Answer in that being an example, what's another example? You suck at this. Right. And then I don't stubbornly try to keep going with it. Like that's how I ended up figuring out what I was supposed to do in life. Like when I tried something and the information came back that I wasn't good at this, I was just like, I just, I didn't have the ego to be like, yes I am. Because there's like things you want to be good at. Yeah. And also when you're good at, say comedy, it's way different than something you're shitty at. Like I used to golf until I did comedy and I was like, oh, I'm not going to fucking do that. If I can be this good at something and that good, it's like that's shitty. It's a waste of time. It's a total waste of time. Like I didn't find it relaxing. I just found it like it was just thwarting. It was hurting my feelings. Yeah. I have a funny relationship with golf. Like I like the hang. Yeah. And I also, I get a kick out of how seriously people take that absolutely ridiculous stupid activity. Unless, if it actually helps you. If it actually, like if that's the place you need to go. There's a lot of people that, you know, there's a lot of men that are not in happy marriages and they didn't marry easy women. Now that's not a popular opinion out there. The popular opinion is that if there's a problem in the relationship, the man is the problem. And it's just not true. It's just, it's probably even. You know what I mean? But women are stealth overbearing. It's not like they're taking the beltie and beating you down and stuff. But it's, it's, it's more chemical warfare. Yeah. It's also, it's radioactivity. Yeah. It's like. It's invisible. Yeah. Yeah. Carbon monoxide. Yes. Emotional carbon monoxide like and you, so these guys, they just are managing. A difficult situation. They're like a game manager quarterback. And they're just handling, just trying to stay in the fucking game. And they get to the golf course and they just get to like, just leave that alone. You get to be like a full person instead of like, I feel like a lot of guys in marriages and I have to tell you something right now, that is the worst fucking thing that you can do to somebody is if you're in a relationship with somebody and they feel like they cannot be, you just said be a full person. Yeah. I used to say, I don't want to be a guest in my own life. That's how bad relationships make you feel. Like I'm like a guest in my own experience. I have to run it through you or it has to be okay for you. That was the thing I said to you a few weeks ago. Like punch a clock. Yeah. Like what am I allowed to be instead of like, I was dating a girl and you had jokes in your act that I wanted her to see because I didn't know how to tell her. And she, I guarantee you, you know, unless she was a, okay, first off, what I was saying was correct. Let's start there. And then if she was mature enough or wired in a way that she could take information that if she could actually admit being wrong, which isn't something that some people could do. Some people can, some people can't do it. But if you were somebody that can't say that, you know what, I was wrong, like my wife can do that. And that just goes so many miles with me. Yeah. Cause it's like, I'm not sitting here saying I'm a perfect person by any stretch of the means. I'm just saying, you did that. It made me feel like this, that I was fucked up. And if she can be just like, all right, I was wrong. I shouldn't have said that or I shouldn't have done that. I'm sorry. And it goes away. I know. It goes away. And you get so, you're like, I fuck with you. I like you so much for that. I had, my girl now, she, she did something that wasn't even that agreed. I was just like, eh, we talked it out. And she goes, you know, most of the relationships I'd been in, the guy was the fuck up. So having that attention on me, that I made a mistake, she, my girl said, I had the thought, wait, is this what guys go through in relationships? And I was like, yeah, all the time. I was like, because that's beautiful and also annoying. Like, wait, could we ever be in the wrong? You know, that reminded me one time I was doing the, I'm not gonna say, but I did somebody's podcast and remember the alt scene, whatever the fuck that went. And he was like, you know, I was talking with another comedian friend of mine. We were like, you know what, there's alt hack. There was alt hack. I was just like, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah, you guys aren't as good as you fucking think. You were like, they was so up their own asses. It was such a weird scene because it was created by club comics, some of the best comics of a generation. Beasts that earned the right to stretch out. But then accidentally they created a scene where someone could just start in this comedy womb of no heckling and you're the crowd and the crowd's you, rather than going up there going, look at these fucking animals. How am I gonna relate to them? That just always like struck me as fucking hilarious. Like just that epiphany. You're like, wait a minute. We have human faults also? Yeah. And you have cultural. If we all just sort of just all do the same eight rooms and hang out with each other. It all disappears up its own ass after a while. Yeah. Like remember what happened in the club scene? Did you ever notice what's up with this? This guy knows what I'm talking about. The same thing is gonna happen to your scene. It's part of every fucking scene. Like this is new. This is amazing. This is great. This is the apex. Now the industry figured out and make money of it. Now there's a formula and then it just dies. That's how it all goes. Yeah. The thing I want to get back to was the idea of like being good at something and then making that. Cause it is people probably, whenever people do those Q and A's, like, hey, people have questions. The question in my experience is always like, hey, how can I be you without having to struggle for 10, 15 years? And it's like, there's no way to not start. That's, you can't. With technology? No. Yeah. The level of exposure that you have. Oh yeah. But you're not, it's not gonna last long. I don't know about that. I think it's just, I think it's changed. I'm actually excited for younger comics that they don't have to go through that the level of power that they have is really cool. It's really cool. And like, you know, we went through a different process, but I feel like we, there was just as many bad comics versus good comics or great comics. I think that has always been the same. And I think it's just all how you apply using the technology. It's just, it's just gonna be, you know, it's gonna be different thing. I mean, it was a different thing when I showed up. Like what, and my generation, the 80s generation created the whole club scene. And before that, like guys like Leno and those guys, they had to go up in front of like strippers and jazz musicians and stuff. Opening for fucking- Fucking Miles Davis. Jay Leno told me open for Miles Davis and like some jazz club in like North Epivity. Yeah, Seinfeld would open for like Gloria Gaynor. Jerry one time said, no one wanted to see a Jew. It's like a Jew. What, what? Like that's what people thought in the 70s. Yeah, you had to be like in the Catskills or something. Yeah, like what is this Jew, what? Yeah, so the, I would imagine that there was comics from Jay's generation that went through all of that stuff, looked at us like, Jesus Christ, you actually have a place where people go specifically to see stand-up comedy. Like I had to be wedged between, you know. Yeah. I guess it does get easier. To show in the titty, so. Yes, I would argue that you got better. I think it changes, it changes. I don't think it's any easier today. I just think it changed. I don't think it's easier. I don't, I think there was something positive about you and Patrice and Norton and Voss and Kevin Hart and like you guys being at the cell together. All of us assholes. Yeah, but like you were making, but like you were ridiculously mean to each other and everyone around us. We know that now, like looking back, but you, some of you made it like so, like it made you better and different in a way that I think was like, I'm glad that you went through that. I didn't, I wasn't really around it, but I could see it from afar. It was an asshole think tank. Yeah. We just sat there and rather than thinking up scripts. Stupid. We thought about dumb things, mean things to say to each other. Shirts, attacking shirts, hate crimes on shirts. Guys, look at the fucking, this fucking shirt. Oh yeah, you just said we have a whole section of your closet of shit that you just couldn't wear down there. Yeah. There was stuff that I bought and then I lost the courage to wear it. That's why I've always just, I always dress like Malcolm Young. I just feel like that's the least amount of shit you're gonna get. Yeah. Oh, you and Patrice had the fucking, I don't know if you, I'm sure you told the story, but I heard it like secondhand, the thing about standing together after a show and whoever got the most U2s. It was like- Oh yeah, U2. Oh no, no, but then then we ranked him. Yeah, it was when you, after comedy shows, when you're, all the comics stand together, the best, the most part of the comic of the night, the crowd, most of the crowd will come up and go like, you were great, man. And then they'll see the other person there. Oh, you too. And they'll go, oh, you too. And it was like a ranking of how many U2s you got. You too. And then the worst one, the worst one was stick with it. In the black version is you did your thing. You did your thing up there. That's kind of stick with it. Like I'm not going to say like it was good. No, you did your thing was you had a good set. Yeah, but there was also like, if you didn't really, they'd still give you like you did your little thing. Maybe they'd throw up. That sounds female. Female like that word little. Yeah, you know the whole thing. You do. I never found, there was no happy medium. There was either you killed or you didn't. I remember getting off Nick's comedy stop. One time having a bad set. And you just have to walk. What sucked about Nick's is if you had a bad set, you had to walk through the crowd. We just call it the gauntlet. You had to walk through it. I remember walking through and hearing the host trying to get the crowd back and not listening, wanting to look at anybody. And it was like, you know. Cause you've just gotten off and bombed. And like it was sparsely populated with people. And I remember this black guy just yelling, come on, red, you can do better than that. That was one of those things. You know, I still let a day job. And I didn't have another show for like five, six days. So for six days in my head at the dental office playing on a loop is, come on, red, you can do better than that. God damn it, that's so funny. And then people at work would be like, you all right? Is there anything? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's good. Didn't get sleep last night. God damn it, that's so fucking funny. Do you, but you, I would say you're better. You're better off overall for having experienced that. No? No, everything in life, all the pain that you have in life, it just makes you, if you survive it, it makes you tougher. If you don't give into it, that's the thing that you learn on the way is like, you can make the choice. You never run with people, you know, I mean, it was going great. Then this happened. It's just like, well, that happens to everybody. You should just, you gotta use that as part of your story to get in there. But if you make, you have the power to be, to let that thing take you out. Like I saw, I, you know, new comedians that, you know, came to New York or came to LA, you know, and they got there talking to my Jamie or fucking Lucian back in the day. Those guys ripped everyone a new asshole. But some people just took it to heart and couldn't get over it. And it's just like, yeah, I used to talk to him, be like, fuck those guys, fuck those guys. Well, that's what I was gonna say is that thing where you- Especially you, Jamie. Hey, did you like that? Did you like that? Yeah, did you like it though? You want more, don't wanna work? Would rather watch videos of me grab assing with people. First of all, go up here to subscribe and then go up here to watch more clips. This is like when the weatherman says that there's a high pressure system coming in. 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