 Good morning and thank you for being nervous and thank you for attending this pitch. My name is Gabriele Ponzo and I'm from Libre Italia which is the organization I'm going to talk about. Well my friend and colleague Andrea Costellani, he had a problem on the last minute so he couldn't come back come here and so but I have to say a big thank you to him because he prepared the whole material I'm going to speak to speak on and and also that's why I think I would go reading some something or almost everything because he's been preparing them for me. Well this is Andrea Costellani my colleague as I told you he's an IT advisor especially specialized in free software working in Regione Umbria at the moment and he's been also in the open source competence center which is a committee. It's a competence center. Yeah it's a competence center to decide how to because we have a we have had regional law one on the first maybe the first in in our country was the first regional law mandating of the AFP Italy. Yes and so subsequently to this law they established this competence center. He's been part of Libre Umbria project just like me and he's a founder and a counselor in board of directors of Libre Italia just like me and at the moment he's a consultant for technical methodology implementation in Stato Maggiore della Difesa the defense Italian defense as you may have heard about our their migration migration and he's working at the moment to the document management systems to how to integrate Libre Office especially in the headless you know I don't know if you know what is headless you install our Libre Office on a server and you call it from common line so via scripts and so on and that's the way he's going to integrate with such document management system. That's me. I'm a self entrepreneur in Italy and this is the name of my enterprise. I'm founder and secretary of GNU and Linux user group in my town which is Terni and as I told you I'm a founder of Libre Italia and I am in the membership committee of the document foundation. I must have been certified trainer and migration expert in Libre Office obviously. Are you there? What? Yes many years ago. Anyway Libre Italia was founded in August 2014 but we already had a huge community on Google plus which was at that time about 1,600 no at the time was it was already 1,600 sorry members on Google plus so we decided to found to constitute the association and now we have more than 270 members in Italy obviously no mainly Italian but not strictly in Italy because we have also members from other countries which are Italian maybe almost obviously and but they live outside our country so and the community now has reached more than 2,600 members okay. The goal of association as you may imagine is to spread Libre Office but not only that we also want to spread our free Libre open software generally speaking and the icon of Thunderbird is not casual as you may know or may not know and also we want to to spread the culture and the concepts of open data open data formats and open knowledge and that's why the association exists and works well we are the only Italian association being member of open source initiative which is behind you know Linux and all the most common most known open source projects and we have been selected as a part of the national coalition digital skills for digital skills in Egypt. Egypt is the Italian agency for you know digital skills and they have selected as our association to be member of well let's see what what we have been doing in the last drinking and the tea these pictures was taken in Bologna in November 2014 when we had the first country-wide meeting and yes this is what you know we were drinking some we were celebrating yes well what so what did we do well within last year we have been supporting schools primary and I and choosing free software either for administration purposes and for dialectics meaning that you know they have different requirements and so we had suggesting them how to improve not to implement LibreOffice for their needs these was done through workshops and free trainings just because we are an association of volunteers and so our work all you can see here is made by volunteers so not paid so we have been also teaching to teachers and parents but this is not that slide anyway about the the open software not only LibreOffice and we have a project called grow up with bread and free software that was included in the agent as mentioned before you know the project because we have I used to say in Italy you're growing up in with bread and Nutella for example so the the game of word is this is this so grow up with bread and free software meaning that for us is important to have free software concept and culture be spread from the very early stage of children because they have to know that there is a choice and they have to grow up with this with this knowledge with this awareness okay well we've been publishing in particularly our president Sonia Montegiove she's been publishing this e-book and another one is in can tear which is 10 people looking for LibreOffice just because we have an Italian classic in literature which is called 10 people looking for author you know 10 characters looking for a for an outer this is a classic book so this is you know another game of words um this book is really pragmatic meaning that it approaches to the the use of LibreOffice in a very pragmatic way meaning that these are we have those turned characters they just have a need each one so for example the first has a need to write a letter to the public administration so you have this story which by the means by the way teach you how to open LibreOffice open you know the writer and create a document your style and so on to to reach the goal of writing a letter to the public administration for example but you have turned characters with 10 different needs and all the all the the roadmap all the all the steps you have to do to reach that goal well we also have been producing slides materials guides and tutorials and so on and we released them under Creative Commons license obviously this to be to be reused by you know schools and whoever needs it for do training and so on another thing we used to attend so many events so one of them was document freedom day so we organized contemporary event in Perugia and Motsakane which are far from each other and we had you know syndication via google hangout and these are sorry this is Perugia campus classroom and this is Motsakane I think anyway is it the the town hall this is inside the town hall not the campus not the university why this was an university anyway municipal town municipal town okay um so as I've been saying we attend so many events to let everybody know about us and about what we do just like I'm doing now and one of those was forum PA which is a forum nationwide countrywide annual forum for all public administration to to meet each other and you know and discuss about solutions and so on and the inter oh this is a mistake international festival not sorry internet festival which is another thing and also the international journalism festival which is held in Perugia by the way our headquarters is in Perugia this is why this is because you know um Libre Italia is the natural consequence of Libre Umbria project and Perugia is in Umbria so most of us from Umbria me too not everybody obviously so but at least the the the founders most of them are from Umbria and anyway we have the headquarters in Perugia but you know it's just formally because we we don't have an office now we just meet whenever we need and so for example we are going to meet next weekend and also we will we go having the the national sorry the annual conference in in Terni which is my town this is my turn and then we have been supporting a cdl which is European computer driving license but based on free software in in the specific in Libre office and Linux because for those who don't know what is e cdl is uh european certificate uh that just states we are able to use you know basic functions of computer so you know how to power on to how to handle files to create folders and so on and how to use the the basic functions of uh office automation suite but usually we've been helped with windows and microsoft office for decades you know while now we are going to no they already used to have e cdl certification in with open source within last let's say three form five years but they used to do that with open office so we going to uh to try and to um to let them use Libre office obviously so um and to do that we need to prepare materials exam exam preparation exercises and quiz and so on and online simulation which is the hardest part because you know you have to simulate the world Libre office on a platform which is not really Libre office they used to do with flash for example you know and uh and action scripts and so on and but the it requires a lot of work so we uh not up to date for this but we try to we strive to the well um as you may have understood we have been organizing lectures for many events and also for student parents it's important to to talk and to speak to parents of students because they must be part of this change you know even if the students are the most important because they usually own the computers at home you know if you have a child you may understand me because yes the computer the computer is the family one but they're used to well um and you we used to talk about the uh the importance of the importance of freedom and you know free software and so on well this is another picture from two pictures that's me oh yes it's you yeah i was yeah um i lost some fat in the meanwhile no and this was a Bologna conference in 2014 and this is the the group photo we have doing this is me pressing the remote command of the camera because the photo was taken by my camera anyway it's funny you can't see it here but i i'm putting my hand almost in front of another member anyway let's go on um well uh we used to meet public administrations and this is really important because we have a loan in Italy that um requests requires the public administration to adopt free software instead of um property one if possible but if not you have to demonstrate it so you have to prepare a document stating you can't use free software and why you can't so but anyway there are not so many public administration in Italy adopting free software so we have to meet them with those such events called roadshow we just have you know conferences and speak just like i'm doing now and also uh we show the program we show the possibility the opportunities and and we talk about freedom and most of all we talk about the open format which is you know as you may know the UK government has adopted in 2014 august if i'm not wrong the obf as mandatory open format the document format for for their country so just like they did we would like to do the same in Italy and we are pushing about this and um well promotion promoting meetings in schools that are only about conscious of the use of internet targeted to parents and teachers this was also important it was not only office but just on the use of internet because many um children and many guys and students they they think they believe to know how how to use the internet but they are not aware of all the risks the risks there are for example when you are you are a child or you are you're young and you let's say publish a video which is not that cool and uh on the internet on youtube for example maybe two or three four years later you're having an interview for our job and maybe that video comes out and you may lost an occasion and opportunity to have that job just because you're hiring the people who's selecting you may discover that video later and it's it happened so well so it's good to them to to be aware and you know also about chat and facebook and social media and so on they have to know the risks connected and behind the this technology well um finally if i'm not wrong um we act just like a watchdog meaning that we used to read all the press news newspaper the press news uh about liberal office migration and so on and the pesaro just try looking for non solo pesaro hashtag in twitter yes maybe most of the um the posts are in italy but there are many also in uh in english uh this was a case of counter migration uh it was really a case and we made so much loud uh noise you know uh within our country that you know has been going outside our country so you may find as well uh press releases and you know articles and blog posts about this case just because as you may see here for example just to be short this is the independent um report on which they based their consideration to go back to microsoft office 365 and as you may see this is so independent you have here a logo of municipality of pesaro netics which is the the company who has been doing the report the report that you may see here those two logos so this is how independent was but anyway um so um we are arising a lot of noise about that because you know well what are you going to going to do in the future i'll be short um let's say that you know our associated members are growing week by week and uh we got records you know almost daily and let's say also that um for example the migration of defense we may you may be heard you may have heard uh they have contacted us because they have been reading all our noise and all our policies and news and so on so they called us to say well they found us as you know and they asked us well we would like to migrate we were not calling them so and they were saying we are the fans we know all about you that's very funny well um autonomous provinces of bolsano and trento are migrating according to tdf official migration protocol more or less and the fence we already talked about that you know the defense is meant as army marine and aviation and to be honest there should be also carabinieri which is you know gods you know just like police we have so many cops military cops in italy we like that so much we have policia we have carabinieri we have guardia di finanza we have forestale we have my you know so many guardians and um we're going to have workshops to teach people how to contribute in translation and development because we urgently and we really strongly need more people translating to italy because we are not up to date with uh with guides for example user guides we you know we have um just finished translating the guide of libra office 3.5 if i'm not wrong and uh and so you may imagine we are at five well and also to develop because we need to to be able to um to spread libra office and say we have an italian developer who may understand quickly us and now our needs an italian needs and requirements well um we are going to to to have a subscription an agreement with um between mure and us mure is um school ministry school research university ministry um just spread libra office and free software in italian schools just like us uh is used to say is important to to start from scratch before they get used to windows and word and so on because otherwise it will be difficult to let them switch you know so um we are trying to organize you to organize um an important event on open formats not only libra office but open formats to to let people um be aware of the importance on our independent standard independent format for documents a creation form of a guide for teachers to educate deaf people in collaboration with a national school for deaf this is a request we have been receiving recently and so we we will strive to produce such a it is a good challenge because you know uh who knows about this sector is not that common you know and um to me it's been interesting and important to have uh such a documentation such a material for them and we are going also to participate in on our TEDx in november 5th in Assisi Sonia obviously well i heard that reacting but i'm the curator by the way that's what i know yeah wow good good i didn't know about that i'm so oh it's really fresh new well the fresh perfect uh we're trying to organize uh short trainings on for oncologic children in hospitals you know people having uh his oncology problem in your heart and um the child children in in in the hospital of such instructors uh in collaboration with key and early association which is an endless um no profit organization taking care of them um production of online trainings and ooc on liberal office and share them on didaska and all with project platforms which are online platforms to to have you know um online training and cbt computer-based training well um collaboration with a pass which is another um please yes online trainings uh objects you know uh oh sorry said last okay oh yes yes yes i was i was saying um the a pass is another um organization to certificate to give diploma um about using just like ecdl you know it's another one because we used to have just ecdl as a certification but who who says it has to be just one so they've been asking the european community to to be uh to become a certification authority and they have become so now they're able to uh give such ee pass you know european i can't remember the e that what's done for anyway what is that did i mean oh sorry did i like this um now i understand your question sorry um training you know educational you're right thank you oh maybe i have translated not that well not that good it's trans uh so educate educating materials and quiz uh for their certification for your certification exam just like they used to do in ecdl and uh well as i told you we are going to organize the annual conference in tally in november and this is the most the best good news we have about you know we have we have been saying so many times these days because we are so proud about it um this is the difference migrating so they have that would be migrating of one my 150 000 pcs many pcs so many you know spread within the three corps you know our marine aviation and and army and uh as italo said they are they have been asking us but it was really a fresh new about yesterday they are also they have been asking us to certify also people working inside as certified trainers and migration experts and uh what we do for them is uh well support in pre-analysis training of the trainers and i'm involved in that i have to go there i can't remember and 22nd of october if i'm not right i go there and the funny thing is if i just uh few seconds i've been uh you know a military as well because it was mandatory when i was young so and i was been driving buses because they have they own bus lines in in brome to bring all those cops you know here and there and uh they told us you may come here by our buses i will definitely because i've been driving them so for one year i look forward to to be host to be a guest sorry to be a guest on that buses today just to joke anyway um support them because they uh they told us they want to produce they want to prepare learning objects to online train for online trainings and so we will support them as well communication and you know italo is a good man for that but also sania she used to tweet is that door that door i don't know why maybe because it's late enough to go no anyway there is that huge fault over there huge door sorry um uh at least i hope so um by the way we could have a party so my communication i was saying that sonia is really strong with twitter and social media and as you may know and um basic technical support obviously but for level three support we are talking with uh companies which sell support you know they make they make uh they make all their own business on support and customization of library office anyway uh last but not least this is what andrea castellani my colleague is used he's doing now as i told you is the integration with the content management systems and those standards and the automation of workflow with atlas mode as i told you having uh library office installed in in a in a server well we are going to try to do is um have a web application where you feel where you feel in many fields with with what you want to appear on your document on your final document and then from that web application uh we um collect this information and send it to library office headless via via script and then you get back the pdf finished complete so you just have your document official document ready without without having to edit the document within writer which is a facility because the grants uh you know uh uniform aspect you know of the documents and prevents uh not so well knowledge people to try editing something they are not able to do well conclusions we are satisfied since we will never have gas to have so many members and contacts really especially after the news of of the of the the fans we've been contacted and and called so from so many friends and all friends as well anyway we've been able to make so many things we have never imagined and all this stuff wouldn't have been possible without a right and strong communication i have to admit because i'm a technician i'm not a coder but i'm a technician i'm used to give support technical support but to be and you know there is the old uh well-known uh rivality between you know marketeers and technicians you know but uh we have to to stand that you know it's impossible to technician to work if marketeers doesn't sell our work so this is important and last but not least yes it's going to be better thank you thank you so much about this because we are italians and we are italian it's not said that we will answer your question oh she's a friend she's a no i would like to know very very less difference indians do it better also next year this we know it's done by i as well everything is similar so yeah i think you by that analogy we can produce something similar to you so next next next conference same slides last just this change the last word you know i got quick questions on this i heard it alone talking about you know the news which came to you asking for you know migration so uh what what was the big reason or what was that point which they thought is important for this migration and which was communicated to you you know what was that okay this is why we're coming to you and asking for migration any maybe there is a law so in italy we have a law that is mandating public administration to use uh open source software as i mentioned uh of course the problem of this law is that is it's not mandatory but it's just a kind of a strong suggestion so it's basically ignored by many but of course as they are the defense and they are supposed to be the one that respect the law first because they are paid to make the other respect the law it was a nonsense for them to be not to be compliant with the law okay so of course they what is interesting i think is that they made all the the the first level of intelligence by themselves so they they took all the available product they made their test and then they decided for the office and then they called us they called the association which is i think is important to have at the association that gets to the point to be recognized as the represent the referral for the for the software because otherwise if you miss the association who are you calling no you may call you can call the foundation okay and then also call an entrepreneur as well yeah but you know what we are the referral for community so it's since it's based on community so it's a different entity is an italian not-for-profit association yes it is the the statutes are based or let's say are inspired by tdf statutes but are different because of course our status are compliant with italian law for instance in italy an association members of an association have to pay an yearly fee this is the law that says that because the yearly fee that members pay even if they are volunteers is supposed to be the capital that the association is using for basic expenses for instance we are asked to be insured we are all insured when we represent the libra italia and of course to pay the insurance you need money so if no one puts money in then you don't pay insurance so as we cannot have one to to to guarantee the independence so not to have a company that pays for these expenses the law says that to be independent the association has to ask it's they call a kind of we use a word that i don't know how to translate it's like to say it's a symbolic amount of money so for for us is 10 euro per year 10 euro is less than one euro per month so it's everyone can afford that students is five euro per year then you have supporters which is 50 euro but then you have to decide to be a supporter so 10 euro per year is okay we can pay the basic expenses so we are independent we don't have to go to anyone to cover our basic expenses which means insurance and publish our ledgers which are of course a necessity for the law so and we have to pay someone that puts together our ledgers we we we get them for a very reasonable amount of money but of course it's an expense that we have to cover so to avoid that there is a single individual or a single company that covers that the law says everyone contributes with a symbolic amount of money and this is different because tdf membership is for free yeah but this is the law i mean we cannot have the same again have the same because the law would not allow us to create a not-for-profit independent association without asking us to have a basic capital deposited by someone and this is what we didn't want to have because it's you know maybe i would say redact italy could easily give us 1000 euro but then you know the association would be paid by redact and even if we love redact we don't want to be recognized as representing anyone right but awesome and you are completely yeah you you are mentioning the aspect to endless yeah yeah where you give input some information either in some form so well i'm not a specialist on these my colleagues and i may get to you in contact with them but from what i know you just install it on a on a machine you know an assistant and you may because it's the office has many parameters you can pass by command lines where we do that and with those such parameters you may do so many things for example one very common and i'm able to do that as well is to is convert mass massive conversion of files so for example you have a folder with you know let's say our doc doc doc doc doc files you can make easily a script which opens one by one each each file and and convert it in pdf or oddity or both so because you have so many parameters you can pass through the common line but i'm not a specialist in this andrea he is in in charge for that and if you wish drop me an email and i'm getting in touch with him because he is now really focusing on that so he may be able to to know almost everything about that or otherwise i think here around they may be people really better than us to to to answer maybe kaolan for example i didn't get the actual idea of what it is exactly the system so that's why i'm asking now i've got i mean like for matching documents in video format some kind of thing we can do on the same place so if it is a service based it is so sorry it will be a headless system it's a server instance it's a server instance that you control you can try out also in your common line you can try also in your desktop if you're over at terminal and you call libre office if we if it is windows it should be slash question mark and it gives back you many parameters if i'm not wrong many parameters at least the most you know used the and the most common ones and you may try also you know it's it's really simple what it does is just not show the front end meaning that libre office is coming up it's opening but without showing anything so you can try as well in your desktop obviously we used to do this on servers and that it does not it doesn't have to appear any any any user interface because you know it's a server it's blind it's over there but you can try also in your desktop because it's not that difficult i've been using that to convert so just open a terminal and try any other usage is to is especially to convert files yeah jobs i told him yeah talking about the association well consider that as a tool as i said most activity is made by volunteers are for free within this first year we have been not paying back for example expenses so we have been not only volunteers but we have been paying by ourselves also transportation for example let's say we have an event in millen and we had i've been paying by myself now we had you know this the second year has begun so we have treasure i mean akash akash flow so we could start we could begin paying back the the bills at least but just that because volunteer i just um tdf via spi does here you know and so we are volunteer work is for free but the bills to come here for example and so on or we are going to pay back yeah and for the for the upcoming conference we will ask a grant to the document foundation to cover the organization and the expenses for example what did you do when the company wants to hire uh libretalia or the volunteers to do a migration training or something like that it's totally separated they cannot hire us we have agreed that we do this way we do the first meeting for free great we explain how the ecosystem works yeah and we tell them people that can provide you services are these people you have to pay them and uh so you then then it's a it's a separate it's does libretalia gets out of the picture no okay so you indicate because you are promoting we indicate the the certified people you know okay yes we we used to to have such meetings and to promote and to explain how does it work and so on after that we uh point out which are the subjects entrepreneurs to to do that mostly with certified people yeah what we do after is just uh proceed with communication yeah because we we we are not out of the of the yeah but we only communicate but we only website libretalia yes not it and uh do you have the names of certification people no it's on tdf site it's on tdf website we point them to the tdf website no i mean in libretalia you you you have the the certified people in it tell you no no we don't at the moment we don't because we we may we may do that yeah because it may be a good idea you indicate a certification people yeah you're at the moment at the moment what we do is just point out to the point them to the tdf website and they are separated by country so it's not that difficult to to find italians that define people but libretalia is for italia i i guess yes you're right we may we may think about that yeah i think it's interesting because i think it's good for the the libretalia and the yeah yeah i mean in we don't want to to to have people think that we are separated from tdf so we want people understand that we are the italian let's call it branch of tdf so we represent tdf in a sense in italy we don't want to be perceived as a separate completely separated entity although we do separated stuff because for instance when we work in the schools in some cases we not only promote libre office but also firefox and open source open source in general which is not just libre office but so we we of course we we are improving also because as you can understand if a small company calls you it's a one question if a 100 000 and 50 000 beast calls you is another one so it's a it's a first experience let's see how it evolves so thank you very much thank you