 para que me encuentres chico para que me pongas bien, ciencinedores y coch架les para que que turijas a mi familia eh , a mi familia oh , trajo como el panel y coche de Jacky Gorman a también con la noche o tan zena de para que en el daño, en la��na de el de bonos 2017 en español. Gracias. Bueno, así que, bueno, eso fue muy bien. No estará aquí con ella hoy, pero los gifs son de ella. Así que, nos damos gracias por su fortaleza. Con eso, tengo unos comentarios para hacer hoy. Voy a ir a la calenda con ustedes y recordarles algunos de los materiales que nos enviamos a ustedes. Y luego vamos a tener a Ed Guzmán, la adecuación de la ciudad, hablarles a ustedes un poco antes de que ustedes les haga su final voto hoy, sobre la edad y cualquier conflicto de interés que hay en la votación hoy. Queremos que todos se sientan cómodos y que no hay un problema de percepción, o un problema de edad, o un conflicto de interés. Así que, vamos a hablarles a ustedes de eso hoy, para que se sientan cómodos en el trabajo que harán hoy. Pero antes de hacer eso, vamos a ir a la calenda de nuevo y recordarles que hicimos nuestra cuarta reunión en noviembre 17. Y luego hicimos dos reuniones, que a más de 8 o 9 de ustedes alli atendieron con la leadership de las personas en la comunidad, hicimos la reunión en el norte de la ciudad, y en el norte de la ciudad, que le dio a los líderes de la ciudad la oportunidad de aprender más sobre esta proposición y aprender sobre las áreas que presentamos que todos ustedes se refieren. Y vamos a compartir con ustedes hoy algunos de los comentarios de los dos reuniones. Ellos estaban muy bien atendidos, y hemos tenido un buen feedback, y así que vamos a compartir eso con ustedes esta noche. Hoy es nuestra cuarta reunión, y también hoy mostrará algunos de los resultados de la survey que ustedes alli suministran a la tercera vista en la segunda survey, suministran los comentarios durante un par de semanas en la primera parte de diciembre. Así que, vamos a mostrarles ese feedback, que también va a ayudar a ustedes en la final ranción de hoy. Este comité, según las otras cuatro, tiene un diferente, y quizás un poco más grande de su calendario. Queremos recordarles una vez más, en caso de que les guste atender a uno de los próximos meetings o de publicaciones. Así que, después de la votación de la noche en las áreas designadas, el próximo mes, a las 2 de la tarde, con el City Council, tus cochairs, Jackie y Jim, y yo, presentaremos al City Council las áreas recomendadas para la inclusión y el plan de renovación urbano, y, últimamente, en este pacto de bondad. Así que, a las 2 de la tuesday, en las ciudades, lo llamamos la Building Municipal Plaza, right across the street from City Hall. Si les gustaría atender, también es televised. Creo que Channel 21 es nuestro local canal, pero puedes verlo en TV, si no puedes atender el mes, si tienes interés en hacerlo. Y luego, el próximo día, la meeting de la council en la reunión regular va a adoptar las áreas para la inclusión y el plan de renovación urbano. No va a adoptar el plan, pero, en realidad, solo las áreas designated en tu recomendación. Así que, en enero, podemos tener un ser humano con la comunidad, y esto es donde mayores pueden atender, como el de las líderes de la ciudadanía en la audiencia. Entonces, tendrá un ser humano en enero 18. En las áreas ultimate en el plan de renovación de la urbana, y luego vamos a dejar de pasar dos semanas en base en los councils que no se encuentran en el viernes, tercera de la semana, y entonces, después de ese publico, habrá dos semanas en las escuelas, y eso dará el consulador y el staff tiempo si quieren ajustar a cualquier de los áreas en base en ese publico. Y entonces, en febrero 2, el City Council adaptará el plan de renovación de la urbana y, por lo menos, adaptará o lockó en los áreas que quieren incluir en el programa de bond. Y luego, en el 9 de febrero, eso es cuando el City Council, en otra reunión de negociación, llamaremos para la elección. Eso será la elección oficial. Ellos hacen la llamada para la programación de bond, la programación de bond, la elección de 850 millones. Ok, así es nuestro calendario. Pueden llamar o e-mail Jessica si tienes algunas preguntas por la cara si quieres encontrar más sobre esto. ¿Tenemos una pregunta antes? Gracias. Gracias. Justo una pregunta en el calendario. Yo veo la adopción de la Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero 2. ¿Tenemos una febrera cuando eso estará publicado para la revisión de publico en el comentario? Estaría probablemente publicado a la mínima o a la última de la febrera antes de eso. Entonces, eso sería, ¿qué? Antes de la publicación? Ok, bueno, así que la inicial es, hay un gráfico para la publicación que estará publicado antes de la semana. Probablemente con el gráfico agenda, Memo, la semana de la febrera antes de eso. Voy a tener estos chicos que tienen unos días para nosotros, y luego vamos a darlo a ustedes. Entonces, para ser claros, habrá menos que una semana para la publicación o a alguien que esté interesado revisar el documento de Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero y submitar cualquier feedback para el Council de la Ciudad. Así que, veamos el dato real quick. Entonces, la publicación va a estar en donde el 18 de Januario, ¿de acuerdo? Entonces, ¿pueden decirlo antes de la semana antes? ¿Qué es ese día? El 11 de Januario. Ok, entonces, en el 11 de Januario, la ciudad va a postar para el Council de la Ciudad y la comunidad abierta, lo que llamamos el Memo de Briefing de la Ciudad, sobre este item, que estará en el 18 de febrero, en la publicación, y el Briefing de la Ciudad será el plan de Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero. Así que, una semana en avance de la actual escuchación, el Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero y su formación, será disponible a la comunidad y el Council de la Ciudad. En la noche, a las 6 de febrero, la publicación está a las 6 de febrero en las chambers de la Ciudad de la Ciudad. La comunidad, a alguien que esté interesado en comentar sobre el Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero y las áreas designadas dentro de ahí, tendrá el derecho a hacer así. Sería un Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero, es como 3 minutos por individual, 5 minutos por grupo. Y luego de eso, el Council con el staff, si hay una dirección certa, el Council quiere tomar el Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero porque de la input de la comunidad, podemos cambiar el Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero. Entonces, el siguiente evento es el 9 de febrero, o sea, el 2 de febrero, y la semana antes de eso es lo que es. Ok, así que, en el 25 de febrero, similarmente, de esa anterior acción, en el 25 de febrero, poste el Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero para la adopción del Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero y el final de febrero será attachado a ese documento de reto. Todo ese material es online en el sitio web de la ciudad, y estará disponible para revisar. ¿Puedo hacer un reto? Esto puede estar en tu plan, pero cuando el primer Plan de Renunción de 8 de febrero o cuando cada uno de estos documentos esté preparado para el reto público, sería genial si pudieras también enviarlos a la Comisión de Renunción de 8 de febrero y a los individuos que han atendido las reuniones y les dieron información de contacto. Ok, tenemos todas tus informaciones de contacto. Esa es una gran idea, Jessica está aquí. Ella está despejando, no hay problema, así que, una buena sugestión. Ok, voy a mover a la última cosa. Creo que alguien me dijo que no les diga esto de nuevo, pero, en caso de que no te olvides de esa reunión, esto es tu reto, right? Es solo para seleccionar, ya lo sabes, pero solo para seleccionar áreas designadas. En el momento, van a escuchar a nuestro autoritario sobre los intereses de los conflictos, y lo que no lo seleccionamos y lo que no lo recomiendas es proyectos, o parciales específicos, ¿verdad? Te recomiendas hoy, las áreas designadas que serán incluidas, donde en el futuro podremos hacer algunos proyectos de hogar para el profe y al profe del sector. Ok, antes de que lleguemos a esta sección, les muestro que nos enviamos a todas las preguntas que le damos a la Comisión de Renunción de 8 de febrero, y me gustaría decir que hay una Comisión de Renunción que recomienda que tomemos algunas de los parciales que están cerca de las piezas de hogar para propias de calidad de aire, y hemos hecho eso, hemos hecho varios ajustes a las mapas que tomaron esas áreas, y les quiero decir que las mapas han sido incluidas. Ok, con eso, lo que voy a hacer es invitar a Ed Guzmán, el agente de la ciudad, que va a hablar un poco ahora, sobre el issue de la etica y los intereses de conflictos, y tu voto final de la noche. Y luego, después de eso, esto va a tomar unos 3 a 5 minutos, vamos a tener a Richard Keith, vamos a caminar un poco más material, y luego el resto de la noche será tu. Hola a todos. Justo quería darles un poco de un refresco sobre los principios de la etica, que el agente de la ciudad, nos dio en esa primera reunión. Y es probablemente no una sorpresa, hemos tenido varias preguntas que han aparecido de múltiples miembros a través de todos los 5 miembros, sobre cómo la etica se aplica a lo que ustedes están haciendo y a lo que los intereses de conflictos mayores. Así que, primero, quiero recordarles, que estás en la Comisión Adhoc Advisorial. Así que estás aportada por el mayor, en consultación con cada de los miembros de la ciudad, pero no estás aportada porque de la ley de Estado, de la ley federal o de la orden. Esto es algo que estás aquí para informar y avisar a la ciudad y hacer tu mejor recomendación. Y así es por eso el hecho de la Comisión es la manera que es. Tenemos una cross-section de los voluntarios para los non-profits, las asociaciones de los miembros, las personas que tienen el conocimiento de la industria, pero más importante, todos tienen el conocimiento de tus districciones, el hecho de los districciones y lo que los proyectos mayores no pueden funcionar dentro de esos districciones. Entonces, todo eso es para asegurar que la Comisión Adhoc Advisorial considera input de cada districción, analiza a cada de estos áreas, pero también hay que guardar contra asegurando que el proceso es correcto, es transparente y que no hay influencia o la apariencia de la improporidad cuando se siente el interés monetario en cualquier de los acusos de tus acciones. Así que, como Peter ha mencionado, voy a mencionar una última vez para que completemos la acusación es que estás muy unido comparado a la otra de los miembros de la Comisión Adhoc. Estás recomendando áreas designadas para la inclusión en el Plan Urban Renewal y, últimamente, en el Bond. Así que, en realidad, estás interrumpiendo en dos cosas diferentes que estás haciendo. Estás parte de un mecanismo legal muy importante para determinar lo que es parte de ese Plan Urban Renewal y el Bond. Estás no identificando específicos áreas para la compra y no identificando específicos proyectos. Así que, no hay esa designación granulosa que está siendo realizada en algunos de estos otros miembros. Por lo tanto, queremos asegurar que es claro que, si alguno de ustedes tiene un interés financiero y, últimamente, va a ser, ¿tiene una propiedad en cualquier de estas áreas designadas? Podríamos fortalecer que no voten sobre esas áreas designadas. Es un tipo de sentido común. También, si tu empleo tiene un interés financiero o piensa que pueden recibir fondos directos por este proceso en una área designada, también deberás recusar y no debes votar. Y, por lo que esto se ha realizado, la manera en que se organiza, si piensas en esto, lo que hemos hablado es que la agencia urban renewal comprará propiedades, hacerlos preparados, y luego el desarrollador tendrá que comprar las propiedades de la ciudad. Así que, nuevamente, estará primeramente mirando si un empleado se despliega una propiedad en cualquier de estas áreas designadas. Finalmente, es up to you to use your own individual judgment and common sense and whether you vote. If you have questions about any of this, I'll be sitting over there, come over, I'll talk to you individually rather than trying to get into a discussion amongst all of you. All right? Great, thank you. Thank you. Next Richard. Okay, thank you. Okay, so I'm going to talk to you about an area, a potentially additional area here, an area to consider that was brought to our attention by the members of the committee who are from district 8 and the district 8 council office. So this particular area for your consideration, this was a recommendation for your consideration by those committee members. Is what we're calling Oak Hollow in district 8. So this particular area is the area that you see up here in purple. Okay? This is located near Babcock and Prue Road and just for your reference over here is just to help to orient you and I'm just going to go through it really briefly so that you have information that you'll need in order to consider whether you want to vote to include this or not include this among the other areas that you finalize this evening. So it's located in that area that I mentioned right there. It includes two parcels. One of them is the Oak Hollow mobile home park and the other is a vacant parcel immediately to the north of the park. So we believe that the area does, after careful examination, we do believe that it meets the state's requirements. And remember there are state's requirements and then there are strategic criteria that we apply. In terms of the state's requirements we think that it does meet the state's requirements. The mobile home park itself has predominance of dilapidation. It has streets that are don't provide adequate access in and out of the property. It has some unsafe and unsanitary conditions which I'm going to speak more about in just a moment. And then the area just to the north of it is made up of open land. The cities, there's a little bit of a story here and if you've been following the news lately there have been a couple of news stories about this particular property. So this is a property where there have been report and evidence of unsafe and unsanitary conditions on the site. There is sewage that is present that children have been having access to sort of in the open area of in between the homes there the mobile homes on the western side of that property which is right over here along here if you're kind of following the laser that side right there our cities development services department has already issued an order to vacate the premises because it was so bad that they really were not livable conditions. Because of the sewage that was present and a breakdown of multiple septic systems. So it's pretty bad. Not all of that property has been under that order to vacate. The ones that were the Department of Human Services for the city has been working very closely and very intensively with those families to relocate them to other housing options. So what's left are about approximately 60 families. So that helps to orient you just a little bit to this property. Now the issue here from the city's perspective is that there are legal there are legal issues between the owner of the property and the owner of the property and the residents of the mobile homes in terms of their lease agreements for the property that they are leasing that could keep the residents in place for a substantial amount of time for a year or more. We don't know all of the details associated with that but that is our best understanding of the situation. So I do want to point out to you as you consider this area that we have told you multiple times that we have strived here to avoid any situations that might lead to resident displacement and we stand by that position that is still our position. This would be a little bit different than all of the other areas that we have considered in that it has probably the greatest possibility of resident displacement. Now, having said that we don't know all of the details we know that the owner is interested in evicting the residents who are currently there it's a very sad situation for the and an unsanitary condition and a situation that involves unsanitary conditions for the residents who are located in this mobile home park now having said all of that on the other hand this property if there were no residents on it could constitute an opportunity for the development of housing that is affordable to the working families who have jobs in the medical center down there or in the UTSA area on the opposite side so it's a complex situation to consider and I just wanted to present that to you in advance of your discussion about finalizing the area so I don't know if there's any further discussion that you would like to have now or if you'd like to just have that discussion as a part of your discussion on finalizing the areas I would say that's up to you the co-chairs to decide before we open this up for general discussion I'd like some of the or at least someone from District 8 to address this to the committee please go ahead okay thanks so much Richard for that presentation so for a second I want to address my fellow committee members and submit to you that displacement is already happening in this location this location gives us a unique opportunity in keeping in mind that this is just a possible area right we're submitting areas for potential housing this particular piece gives us an opportunity to be really creative about how we can address the issues that are happening there right now I don't see how or and Richard and I guess that was a question that I had when you are talking about from the city's perspective you know there are lease issues with the lease but then we look at the sort of timeline for the bond and so I don't I don't really see that as something that would stop me from supporting this possibility of helping out these individuals I know that my fellow district 8 colleagues we've spoken about this and they're also fully in support of this area being added as a consideration so I just ask that we you know I know we've talked about maximizing the bond investments that are happening around other areas but for a second here talk about the opportunity to provide a creative and fair and just opportunity for people in this area I have a question for Richard is the current owner or in the event that the city acquires the property is anyone providing any relocation assistance for the people that live on site right now so currently the Department of Human Services is working to finalize the housing options that each individual mobile home resident has for that western side over here and that's what is happening right now that's the activity that's happening in terms of relocation assistance at the moment I'm not aware of the specific timeline for an eviction process for the remaining estimated 60 residents and is the issue right now it's not a storm water issue it's a sewage issue my understanding is that it's a sewage issue and a breakdown of septic systems so if the property on the north side of pre-road for example were to be acquired maybe to any storm water runoff or anything into the I don't know the answer to that but we would examine that very carefully before we were to seek to acquire any property like if it was in the flood plain for example or had drainage issues but also let's keep in mind that one of the eligible uses of the bond funds is to do infrastructural improvements extension of utilities and drainage does any of this area lie within the scope of work that any of the other committees are doing such as drainage or anything else I would defer to Rossi from TCI on that he's indicating no okay we've got some signs up there I'm going to try to get them in the order that I saw them was Peggy Sue Wilson from District 10 thank you I don't want to see anybody living in bad conditions or unsafe conditions but can you clarify on the current draft that we have of the urban renewal plan page 4 says funds may not be used to permanently displace residents and page 6 says that in the event in the case of unavoidable displacement bond funds may be used to provide reasonable relocation assistance so there's a discrepancy so we want to make sure that's clear if we can do it here is a place where we may have our outside council help us out a little bit my understanding and I'm going to ask for clarification for Clayton is that costs that are associated with displacement are an eligible use under the bond however the city is making a strategic decision to avoid displacement in the bond program that's correct you can pay reasonable cost of displacement relocation okay we might want to fix that in there but I like your other idea of possibly getting the sewage connected that maybe these people don't have to be displaced if the septic system could be corrected or it could be hooked up to city services or something that'd be awesome it'd be a win-win for everybody yeah I should clarify though that when I say that all of the improvements that we can do are in the service of creating housing right so they're not intended to be replacing other parts of the bond where for example where there's not a drainage project identified in another bond package that we could just use this bond to do a drainage improvement that's not the intent of this bond the intent of this bond is to create housing for working families and so the infrastructural improvements that we do are in support of that housing and let me just clarify one more thing the mobile home park that's here is privately owned so the septic system that's there is privately involved so there would be an issue with the city coming in and essentially giving a financial benefit to that individual property owner by fixing the septic system it would be a gift of public funds so there's a little bit of a problem with that as well so on top of what we brought up don't we do gifts or grants for other homeowners to fix up properties that they can't fix? we can but again you have to fit and say that it's for a public purpose here it would be if the public purpose is to serve those individuals that are residing there that's one thing but is it the owner that actually gets the benefit of that instead and that's why we'd have to wait it would be very complicated for the city to go in and provide that for linkage that would be something that really they should and certainly we couldn't do it with the bond proceeds because of the parameters of the urban and I was thinking of directing them to the other programs that are out there because I know there's some for adding people for fixing roofs and stuff maybe we could direct this home or somewhere else but anyways okay if I can I need to make a correction on the question of was there any additional projects and the other propositions for this area the answer is yes it's not no the answer is yes so this is a street project that is $27.6 million to redo pru road to include to include to widen the road to reconstruct the roadway with curbs sidewalks driveway approaches and drainage improvements as needed and the limits are from here which is Babcock all the way over here which is Lorette I guess the road is a $27.6 million improvement projects in a street proposition okay and then let me just add one thing on the displacement issue given that there's many areas right so far I think there's 12 that you all are recommending the staff would be mindful and would watch and would look for the opportunity that if an investment was made on this property an ideal time would be when there's no more transportation and people are already moved off that would be the ideal scenario so we could put it on if you all want to recommend it we would be mindful about doing any projects there until those favorable conditions exist right so if you put it on it gives us the community the opportunity to address it one day if it's not on then we don't have the opportunity to provide housing in this area just keep that in mind Sylvia you're next I don't have any other projects going on but also another was is the owner of the property on the other side of the road the same person or not no two separate owners okay Linda Lopez George did you had your sign up did you put it down okay Michael Taylor so one of the projects that this committee was shown was the east meadows project which is replacing the former Wheatley courts Wheatley courts housing authority project and so I guess and in the instances where the housing authority upgrades their facilities residents are temporarily displaced but they're given the opportunity to come back and so I guess my question is and maybe it's just kind of just a question for everyone but is a displacement if you were to provide the existing residents with the opportunity to come back after the site has redeveloped and you have new affordable housing options that are safe and and decent and if that's not displacement the RFP process and I understand that it's in no way part of our charge to even consider that RFP process but would it be hypothetically possible for that to be a condition of the property going to a developer that they give the former residents an option to move back in essentially once it's redeveloped as a way of mitigating this potential displacement issue yeah I think it's not we can't say it's necessarily impossible to include that as a condition of a potential contract as to the first question I think the first question is more of a question for the committee right so yeah we can discuss that in greater detail during our discussion period Mr. Dickerson from district 2 thank you I think I heard the answer to this question but to be clear in light of the septic mess that exists there and at one property whose responsibility will that be in terms of a cleanup so currently this property is owned by a private owner that private owner has responsibility to maintain safe and sanitary living conditions on the property for the portion of the property that rose to a level of not being habitable an order to vacate was issued for the safety of the residents the city's development services department but for the remaining residents the owner the burden of livability for the site is on the owner I hear you but still we opt to acquire that property and the owner defaults or for whatever reason is unable to take care of that mess what then does the city do with regard to that particular partial are you talking about properties that this particular you're talking about this property that particular partial since we are fully aware of the surge mess that exists there so the city has been working with the residents that were ordered to vacate to help them to identify other options for housing so the city has been very engaged with those residents in terms of cleaning up the sewage I am unaware of the city taking direct action to clean up the sewage on this private property is that what you're asking indeed if that doesn't happen if the city private owner doesn't take care of the mess and if the city opts not to then is this a partial that we will continue to consider I think it's a partial that we're going to consider tonight and I don't and I think that must be the answer to your question I think we're missing part of the question or at least I'm hearing a piece of the question Mr. Dickerson I think what you're asking I think this is the answer to what you're asking if the city acquires any of these parcels any parcel in any of the areas that we're talking about and it requires some sort of environmental remediation before it is turned over to a developer then the city will do that remediation before it is turned over to a developer they will factor that into the price I would imagine they would take care of that that's the whole purpose of this whole urban renewal plan is to amass these parcels do the necessary remediation and pass it on to a developer so if that was your question I think that's the answer I think that's what I was trying to get at but with the limited funds that we have to address neighborhood improvement is is this something that we want to put high on the list or not let me just add Jackie if I can the current situation is a code violation this is against the city's codes and so they've been cited in cases where people don't comply with code violations and clean them up the city has the legal authority to place a lien on the property and once the property is sold we have to clean it up ok mr. Dina district 6 good evening everyone in deference to the members from district 8 I know this is a very touchy feeling situation because we've all been watching this on TV for a number of months so I mean no harm with what I'm about to say this is a sticky situation that was preexisting that the councilman for whatever reason hasn't taken care of maybe he can't maybe it's because of the legal issues I don't know however I think it's going to be a sticky issue for us for the bond if it looks like and perception is reality if it looks like one of our city councilman slid something at the 11th hour under the door and then we add it to the list that's perception and then the perception goes to the vote and we don't need more bad perception because you know how bonds go there's always going to be people against things and we talked to a number of people at our meetings just last week that were against stuff remember the two meetings that we had with neighborhood associations because some people have already come here and said who did you talk to against the question for staff has the staff talked to Jade Oaks and any of the other organized homeowner associations in the area have you heard from them are they for or against or about this particular property where we're we are not aware of their position on this okay so that's another negative because we've already heard that as a committee people have come here and said you didn't talk to us first as a matter of fact at the Wednesday meeting the Wednesday meeting the Wednesday meeting one of the ladies that came to speak one of the citizens said you know this meeting tonight should have been held months ago because you didn't bring us into it so again there's a negative perception and I'm not beating up on staff I'm just saying what my feeling is and I don't want us to fail we have all put our hearts into this and from the discussions I know you guys have the same feeling we want to be successful especially because it's a first time go and we'd like to see it be replicated in the future so we have to be very sensitive to that so my issues are additionally that I believe the northern piece of property there was an attempt to either up zone or down zone that sometime back and it failed the whole story about it there was actually a piece of property that was further north of that it's not that problem okay I take that back then the second issue that I'll bring up then is about the existing issue at the trailer park it's an owner operator issue I don't think we should get involved at it this time because it's also the city's issue what does the city do with the dangerous structure they say there's a dangerous structure you have 30 days or 45 days or whatever it is if you don't do it we will and we've all seen that on TV they're out there and they knock it down they take care of it and they charge the person responsible I think it's shameful if we have such a negative area in our city that we have to move people out and the city hasn't already said you've got 30 days or 45 days either you take care of it or we will because the health of our citizens and so for that I would blame our city councilmen for that area for not stepping up and making it an issue a more important issue then and the 11th hour bringing it before this committee and asking us to put it on there and my heart goes out to the people that are impacted it's not that I'm heartless but I'm looking at the big picture all the other taxpayers that are going to have to pay back this bond over the next x number of years and I'm going to miss on at the last minute and it's not going to smell good it's not going to smell good from the voters perspective and I think we need to just think about that before we add number 17 onto our list and I thank you I yield the floor Mr. McDonnell I'll say what he said but from the very beginning perception of what we were to do was to not use eminent domain and not displace anyone now if this property was free and clear of people who have been resettled that might be a different story we don't even know all the legal issues and how long it's going to come along and we get the detail in this room because we've been working those things and I know many of us have sat here and gone to these areas to look but what does the public see you told me you told me we will not displace anybody you told me that and at these community community meetings I have gone on record with everybody I have spoke to said we will not displace anybody this is a time to trust this is like the aquifer but we need this project to go forward with quality projects that keep our word and build the trust for government and I I bring tears to my eyes for that situation there but this committee can't solve the current problem we can't resolve the legal issues we can't find them housing all we can do is encourage people to do right and the right here for this committee in my view is we made a pledge from day one to build the confidence with the people that we will not displace anyone and we will earn your trust for the future of San Antonio and its residents thank you ladies and gentlemen we are looking at a very serious problem I am almost positive that this area is located in the aquifer zone correct me if I am wrong so something has to be done but it has to be done immediately our bond proposal is going to take a long time and this area according to what we been informed its being polluted if that's what the problem is my way of solving this problem is for solved to get involved the city and the community and we the citizens of the city should put pressure on the people to solve this problem we don't want this kind of contamination into our water system thank you I feel like I need to say something right now because I am really disturbed by the conversation that we are having not so much that we are having the conversation but by the basis of the conversation which leads me to question a couple of things number one we have said this for the five meetings that we have been at and the one bus trip putting an area in this urban renewal plan does not mean that there will be a project there so it is so early for us to be talking about displacement you know this bond program is five years long who knows what the status of this project or this property will be in year five but that's not my issue my issue is that next week in the week after that the 30 of us sitting around the 32 of us sitting around this table are going to have to go out and talk to our fellow citizens and explain to them what this bond is and if we can't understand it here at this table how in the heck are we going to make our fellow citizens understand it I am really concerned about that you know somebody brought up that this is a pilot and we don't want to fail on the first time out and we don't so I'm asking myself and I think I want to ask you guys this because I want you to be real honest yourself because this is the time are we ready to do this or is this something that maybe we need to go to council and say council we did our best but we need to table this for right now because we're not ready I would rather us do that than do something crazy that we can't explain to our fellow citizens and gets defeated and then we have to fight twice as hard the next time and we try to do some very important work and you guys know how I feel about this this is a crisis in our community but it will still be a crisis if we can't convince our fellow citizens to vote for it and if we don't understand it how can we help them understand it that's all I got to say Linda you had your sign up thank you just to address the comment and I totally agree with that last Saturday the council member hosted a breakfast at Magnolia house where over probably a hundred of us were in attendance and those in attendance were HOA presidents of district 8 and others from within district 8 in those HOA associations so there was a large contingency of presidents and this was raised to their attention and he did discuss this particular piece of property as being a potential being added on for the urban renewal plan and he explained how this is a new initiative and how he welcomed any kind of feedback and comments that anybody from the audience there had at that time or any time thereafter so in respect to the staff not specifically going to Jade Oaks or any of the other HOAs there was a large representation there was a sign-in sheet so you're welcome to probably request that from the council member's office if you want to review all of the presidents and other officers who were in attendance thank you Ricardo thank you I completely agree with what you just said I think part of the problem we have is that this bond is extremely confusing just start with the name neighborhood improvements most people when they first came here did not recognize that this was a housing bond they actually thought we were talking about improving neighborhoods improving streets, improving lights and that's not what we're doing we're talking about housing projects so I agree and I can totally understand why there is some confusion here because from the very beginning from the very start the name of it is even confusing and people are a little misguided as to what the purpose is here I get that from this conversation we're having right now and what's really striking to me is we're talking about an area that right now has immediate needs that essentially need to be addressed today and Peter just stood up and told us that that's what the city's doing with code he's also very clearly told us at every single meeting it's one of the first slides here that we are not picking a single project all we are doing is picking an area so while yes if we include this that area is now eligible but those needs that you are addressing that needs to be fixed today there is no guarantee that a single dime is going to go to that so I'm not sure that if we're talking about a need that needs to be addressed right now that this is the best solution because at the end of the day this isn't going to get approved until the election in May the other thing I'd like to have and maybe if staff could clarify this this came to my mind when we were talking about rankings even though we are ranking these projects in terms of these are the projects that we feel are high priority or these are the projects we feel that should not be here those rankings as far as I understand it are in no way dictating the order or the priority that staff is going to use which projects get funded is that correct? that's correct Ricardo this 32 member committee the rankings are in part to help you decide what your recommendation should be we'll use this information after the election as we begin to look at places to acquire property but we're not bound by we don't have to be legally tied into going in that priority order okay given that I still say this is a pilot program if you want this to succeed successful pilot programs do not overreach and that's what we need to make sure we do we don't need to have 15, 14, or 12 in my mind 3 to 4 areas is all that should be included and if the city is successful with that then this will pass again if they are not then we are going to have the mistrust of the people for a long time Miss Connie thank you so much I also agree with you it is very confusing and it's even more difficult for me to try to explain it to some of the people that I've spoken to whose areas we have been discussing um I have a question for staff if we have had this issue in this particular area with the septic and we all know how dangerous that can be I would like to know from Code Compliance how many times they have been called on how many times have they gone over there to see if the problem has been corrected right here right now Code Compliance needs to be called on the carpet and ask them to go and take a look at that and provide this committee information on that property and what they've done and been able to do or not do and why ma'am in response to your question we don't have that information currently the development services staff is not here tonight can we get them to give us that information we can follow up with development services department about that Miss Connie though last meeting when we leave here tonight we need a recommendation one way or another to council so I'm not sure that we're going to have time to get information from staff in response to your question just because we've got to come up with a decision before we leave here tonight Cully is your sign up okay I agree that we have a lot of questions so you know possibly tabling it for the future to ensure success is beneficial that being said you know we are going to vote on something tonight the way I see this I do not feel like it was a last meeting I do not feel like it was a last meeting I do believe that code compliance has been addressing this issue there is a process they have to go through they have they have basically done what they would do in any circumstances where there was a health and safety violation and made sure that those people were relocated for their own safety not to discriminate against them for their own safety this they will I know follow up to make sure that this that area is cleaned up by this by this landlord or they will take the steps necessary to file a lien which would be on the whole property and he would have to in order to continue having any residents there would have to clean up that area I think if we exclude this we are eliminating a possibility for getting a property in an area where that housing is needed at a reasonable price if this owner cannot clean up that property this isn't like radioactive waste it's sewage the city deals with sewage all the time it gives us the opportunity to put the infrastructure in to fix that property I have full faith that none of that would be done until all of the other things would have been taken care of as far as relocating people and I'm not saying the city would relocate I'm saying through the normal process that landlord has already issued eviction notices because he wasn't happy because the city was awning so I think it presents an opportunity for us it does not guarantee that that man's land will ever be purchased by the city or developed but I think it provides us with an opportunity that we shouldn't ignore and I do not believe I think all along we were charged with identifying areas and I think that's what the council district has done as a matter of fact the first meeting we met I said to Koda I'm sure it would be nice to talk with these funds so you know that it's not like that hasn't been considered as an addition from the start thank you and I just wanted to clarify and also to make the point that it is a mistake to assume that we are recommending this area believing that this is going to be the cure all to the issues that are happening there and it's a mistake to assume that the council office hasn't been actively addressing these issues from the second they found out that this was going on there this is more than anything we know by golly peter we are doing what you have told us a million times identifying areas for opportunities potential opportunities and that is what is happening right now this is a unique area yes we've been given a backstory but an opportunity we would make a mistake to not include it before we start giving people a second opportunity to speak on this issue does anyone who has not spoken yet on this issue have anything else to say are you sure? ok so I guess my question is the idea of the sewage I understand that the city would go in and fix this problem but has there been an environmental study done on this sewage that's there, a morro sewage is a problem as far as I can tell and if we were going to leave out the fire station or the fire academy because there was a question of environmental potential environmental issues then my fear is that this aside from everything else would also have a potential downside with this environmental issue attached to it just to be clear the city we haven't said that we don't know what will happen to this area up what we have said is that it's the property owners doing and it's the property owners responsibility and the property owner has been issued a code violation from the city which tells him you can go to court you have to go to court probably and get this cleaned up if he doesn't do it or she if they don't do it then we can place a lien in the property it was still not cleaning it up but it's a condition unlike the fire academy that we do know the best outcome would be that the property owner resolves the issue it gives us as the district reps have told you gives the community an opportunity to consider this it doesn't mean we're going to do a project here so all those are there's a lot of unknowns except for the ones that I talked to you about okay and then I guess the second part is that I went to the meeting on Wednesday with the individuals who had it was almost vitriolic it was a tough crowd and I can't imagine going forward trying to sell something like this to them in fact it was difficult to even get them to understand because this is such a new process as Ricardo always mentions they're not they're not they're looking at eminent domain that's the one and only thing that they're hearing out of all of this especially at my table it was very difficult to breach any sort of conversation because they came in already with their effective filters up and they were just thinking eminent domain someone else has to purchase this property and someone else the family members of these lots need to be the ones that have first priority on this they weren't understanding the process it's taken me and I will remind you that I came in late to this process and so it took me almost two weeks to actually just get the vernacular down but it's taken me a great deal of time to actually try to understand the concept behind it that we just talked about and that not these are areas and not all the areas even though they are chosen are going to be guaranteed that they'll be fixed that we're just kind of throwing the net out there asking everyone to be part of the banquet I guess and so there is a perception these people were very very tentative and the thing that they wanted was transparency I'm trying to look at this how am I going to go to the folks in my area or in my district and say to them this is what I'm proposing or this is what I've proposed with a clear conscience knowing that there is this tentative mistrust if you will about the process because they don't understand it and they've already got their assumptions about it and assertions so I just thank you ma'am folks we have like 48 minutes left and we got a lot of work to do so I'm going to ask everybody to put their signs down for a minute I want Richard do you have any more presentation that you need to give us you know honestly there are some slides that I could present to you about the recapping the neighborhood association meetings and the results of the survey I want to make sure that however I want to make sure that above all else that we allow you the time that you need in order to finalize the decision so what I could do is I could just fast forward here show you the results of the survey so that you are aware of how they came in using that as a tool then for your finalization or we can just skip right to the finalization what do you want why don't you since people did the survey we need to honor the time that they spent doing it so I'll go through that real quickly and then what we're going to do is we're going to start down there at district 1 everybody's going to have a minute or two to say what they need to say we're going to work our way around the room so that everyone will have the opportunity to be heard then we'll figure out where we go next from there ok great alright so 14 out of the 15 members completed the second survey so 14 of you completed the survey two basic questions were asked and they were the same basic questions as we did the first time which was first question was please rank the 13 remaining proposed improvement areas in the order that they should be prioritized the highest ranked one was area number 1 which is in district 1 the second highest ranked one was Lincoln Park in district 2 and the third highest one was the west side which is area number 10 in district 5 so you can see along the right hand side there how they ranked from highest to lowest ok so I wanted to show you that could you please give us just like a quick overview of the community input because some of our committee members you want me to go back and brief you on the neighborhood association leads ok ok so we had two neighborhood association we had two meetings with neighborhood associations last week we invited all of the organized neighborhood associations in the city to attend these and we invited them by mail and by email so these two meetings 67 residents attended the meeting so pretty good turnout between these two nights these residents represented more than 30 neighborhood associations and community organizations nine of you also attended so thank you very much all of you who attended those meetings the basic the key takeaways that we got from the input provided by residents who attended these meetings were number one that they wanted to know that design guidelines were going to be in place that ensure compatibility with the character of the neighborhood and so the answer to that is yes we take that feedback very seriously and yes it will be a part of the process second thing is the use of displacement and eminent domain and we reiterate it to them and we reiterate to you that our intention is not to include the use of eminent domain or displacement in this bond process the third one is to consider post election process for resident input we have been hearing that from multiple people over the last few weeks and we also take that very seriously there will be a resident input process we are examining different models for that there are models that create robust citizen input that have been used in other cities that have done housing a housing bond process so we are examining different models but there will be a process in place so we wanted to share that and then lastly I just wanted to mention that there were a number as you can imagine of specific recomendaciones for us to consider either the inclusion or the removal of small or large areas and we looked at each of those very carefully as we have done with the help of input all along the way from you and other stakeholders and so those incremental changes were integrated into the maps as we currently have them so the other thing that I wanted to mention to you as a survey result is when we asked you the question are there any areas that you believe should not be included and if so which ones the one that first of all I'll say that 9 of the 14 respondents mentioned at least one area that they believe should not be recommended and so 56% of you suggested that area number 13 the one we were calling not be included 44% of you suggested that areas number 7 number 5 and number 17 that the last one was okalo also should not be included for consideration now it's important to recognize with okalo that was without the benefit of discussion and orientation to that area so I want to point that out so here they are in the order from highest number of votes to lowest number of votes the first one being the highest number of votes to exclude that area or to remove that area we hope that these two slides are useful to you as you now move into the finalization of the areas ok ok so we have one more thing to show you we also organized the two surveys side by side so that you can see the cumulative effect of the two surveys and we're going to pull that up for you right now again we don't want to interfere with the time that you need however to make the decisions that you need to make so this information that we're about to show you indicates which ones essentially you all as the committee members indicated should be included this is the cumulative effect based on the survey results of course you can then use that as a tool in your discussion the anticipation is killing me this is so exciting while you guys are working on that Tom we're going to start with you down there do you have something you'd like to say to the group thank you for working hard you're creating something that's never existed before that's never easy it takes trust and risk listening and playful hope I want to underline the four things that Richard just highlighted from the neighborhood meetings we're looking at context sensitive housing that fits the existing neighborhood we're honoring no eminent domain no displacement of current residents we have said yes there will be a role for maybe even some of us in an ongoing way to work with city staff and the council to implement the decisions as this thing unfolds and city staff has apparently been receptive and responsive and added some tiny parcels to existing areas reflecting those two neighborhood meetings that's healthy we can support it and let's get on with it thank you so you have up on the screen the rankings from the two different surveys and you can see how the two areas fall out and I just wanted to mention there were 26 respondents to the first survey and there were 14 respondents to the second survey the general list looks similar nevertheless as you look at them okay Ingenet Tom said it really well I'm really excited about the opportunity that we have to build some affordable housing and really improve our city I think one thing that I would ask is that I hope that we continue if this goes forward that we continue the community involvement as we move forward with this but yeah I'm really excited to vote Mr. Dickerson no doubt a controversial subject in one heck of an opportunity there have been times I seriously felt like I was lost in trying to keep abreast of all the questions and statements and email and then subsequently coming to the meetings and listening to all of the dialogue I'm not sure I'm yet at that stage where I'm truly comfortable trying to explain it all to someone else so I have absolutely no problem with all of the dialogue that takes place at these meetings I think it further facilitates my understanding and I hope toward the end we can come to some resolve that hopefully will benefit not only the neighborhoods impacted but the city in general Joy yes I'd like to thank our committee chairs and my fellow committee members and all of the city staff this has been quite an undertaking and we're just one committee so God bless you all I'm too and really excited about this I just love that statement creating housing for working families and I think that's a noble cause and I'm proud to be a part of a city that would take this on and so I hope that we can have great success and have an opportunity to prove that it can be done we can team up with other cities that are doing that in this country and set a standard as some of the other cities are and when I look at this map I see that San Antonio is very vast and I'm sure there are plenty of other areas that could have been considered and so I really don't think that we're casting the net too wide to me it looks just like a small portion of San Antonio and so I really wouldn't want us to probably exclude we've excluded some others at the last meeting there's great evidence as to why those would have been excluded but as I continue to look tonight I think that I like the areas that are there including the areas in District 3 which would be the southeast the Roosevelt Mission Reach and east south so we definitely want those included but thank you to everyone and I just really value all the input that everybody has with respectives and I think we make a great team thank you likewise all the thank yous and I won't spend any more time on that but I think when the City Council members take a look at our list here and see that we have agreed as a group that this is the ranking that we feel very comfortable with I feel very comfortable that they too then will be able to move and make decisions y I want to thank everybody Miss Santos I know we put a lot of hard work into adding removing doing what we need to do we've spent a lot of time discussing this and a lot of really great ideas so it's nice to know that there's this many people who care about this committee and it's you know it's well represented I do agree with several of the other committee members that we've come up with a really good proposed list we have shortened it and we have added areas that we think are in great need and as it's been stated not all these areas are going to get hit we know that and it's council's job now to see where they can use the money and make those improvements but we've given them a good starting list so that they don't have to feel like they don't have any options and instead they table it completely so I like the idea of having this many options because I mean who doesn't like options I'd rather I'd rather go to a restaurant and have a menu full of choices than two or three things that say you have to choose from these and then oh wait a menu so that's my thought as far as my feedback I think we need to go ahead I don't like the idea of table in anything the main concern we have here is affordable housing and that's what we need to go ahead and stick to as far as our charter so I am a little bit displeased as far as the survey where they gave us an opportunity to go ahead and like that they talked about 26 out of the 30 something and then now 14 out of the 32 I mean the key point to me is affordable housing we need to make this available so I don't like the idea of table in anything I think we need to go ahead and continue pursue what our charter was and do it thank you I just like to thank everyone for their patience with me this has been an extraordinary learning process and I am grateful for all of the ideas and all of the things that I've heard at these meetings so thanks very much I just want to thank the city for this opportunity to be working on this pilot program but I do think that we should table this until we can have more citizens, neighborhood associations and organizations have more time to think about all this that we've been taking I came on late to the committee so me too I was having a hard time but that's what I would choose I want to thank everyone because as we all stated that there was a lot of confusion and I think from the way that we looked when we look at how we voted I think the top three are very much in need of a project like this and I can see in the future that you know moving a few years from now when it's all said and done that we will be proud and these areas need it the most and I think we did really good thank you the nobility of this bond offers great respect for the mayor of this district but this bond was never intended to be this way the reason that it was changed was because the city charter that's not allowed for the city to spend money on home repairs so based on that the charter is going to be changed so I would suggest that you people get behind your city councilman and advocate for this purpose because this was based on the city bond for Austin what might be affordable to you might not be affordable to me so it depends on your income as a senior citizen but we have senior citizens in San Antonio that have been contributing long before some of these people got here with tax money so we deserve to be awarded in some way or another it didn't happen this way but I do agree that this bond should be passed and approved by the way that it's prioritized and try to later on give a little bit to each community thank you well first of all I want to thank the staff because I don't know if how many questions all of you have asked I put them on the spot a couple times and got responses to my questions and I think they've done a tremendous job about at least earning my trust in everything they did and I asked some challenging questions and I did ask and present to you some other challenging questions we need tonight and I want to thank you all each of you in this process for your very open communications sharing your concerns because I got educated yeah this may have been confusing at first but it didn't take me too long to figure out what our real charter was and so I'm ready to go forward and support this but lastly I really want to support the community members that have sat silent but for two minutes accepted our other needs for coming out and giving us their feedback so we find the best program for San Antonio or sitting back here who aren't in the room but I want to say thank you to you because you were very open at the two meetings we held outside of this change and I appreciate your input tremendously thank you I too would like to thank everyone I'm proud to live in San Antonio you guys are a great representative group and I can say that because this is not my first bond committee I've served on a number of them over the years I've been a part of a statutory of any bond committee that I've ever sat at and you all are very thoughtful human beings and that's a wonderful thing the one thing I want to add is in the future because we all presume this is going to pass and it's going to move forward with our urban renewal program Citizen Oversight we cannot in my humble opinion have anything less than a 10 member Citizen Oversight Committee for this initiative one from each council district and the reason is we're all pan for it we all live in this city we care about one another so we should all have a little bit of skin in the game meaning at least one representative and because this is new and we need the diverse discussion like we've had maybe two from each city council district and you know what it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all if all 30 of us if you're willing would be nominated to be the oversight committee at least for the first year or two to ensure because you know we don't see eye to eye we've crossed swords a little bit but we haven't thrown chairs at one another so that's a good thing but we seem to all be on the same sheet of music same vision now as they say and I would ask you to go back to the city council person that appointed you and say you know we need a minimum of 10 if not more and I thank you also very much thank you co-chair this is a great thing that you're doing right now I'm glad that I'm getting to hear from everyone even the people who don't often speak and thanks to both of you for doing a tremendous job and for your patience with us can ask for a little bit more patience thanks to staff also you have been very responsive to us truly appreciate that I'm sure this isn't easy especially because it's the first time you do this and it took a lot of creativity and who would have thought that after that first meeting that we had we would be having this love fest right now at our last meeting I know I think all of us were sort of wondering what you know what's the other person trying to do and thanks to the committee members especially those who seem to be doing their homework on this all the time every time I've spoken with you Bill you have some new fact that you've researched or Peggy Sue will open a binder that she's acquired of a ton of other information thank you for informing me about all that work and I agree with Mr. Dina I think because we're invested in this process we want to see it succeed and having a group to process I think it would be good for the city and I think we would let us help you in that way so I hope you'll take that under consideration thanks I'd certainly echo all of the thanks to all of my fellow committee members and also to staff for all of their hard work on this I think staff came with a really good set of recommendations to begin with and that's made our job easy it's just about us tweaking them essentially I think that the demand for affordable housing now is staggering in San Antonio if you read the thick report you know by 153,000 units unmet demand for affordable housing which is just staggering it's really paramount that we do something about that we start doing something about that now it's a huge demand now it's only going to grow we actually have an opportunity now before things get to crisis situation like they are in Austin we have an opportunity to get ahead of the curve this is a very small ask of voters I really believe that the majority of people will approve it if not then we lick our wounds and we try again and at least that conversation goes outside of this room and into the general community so I really think it's a win-win proposition if voters do approve it I trust that staff will do everything they can to ensure that it's successful and I'd also remind everybody that as we've been told there's a whole lot of public process that goes into every decision about what property to purchase, how to clean it up who to convey it to develop affordable housing none of this is going to be done in a vacuum it's all going to be open for public discussion even after this leaves here it's going to go to City Council for public hearing so the potentially affected neighborhoods and adjacent property owners will all have an opportunity to weigh in at many many points throughout this process so I would just say that I'm fully in support I really think we have to do that there's the opportunity to weigh in on this thank you so I think most of the key points have already been made I would echo the comments around staff and the co-chairs in their support I think we learned a lot during this process and because it is new and I think one of the most important learnings is that we need to involve the community early and often and I hope that a lot of people can hear us from now when people sit down to do this once again that learning isn't lost and we don't have to retrace our steps and we get it right the first time it's not a criticism it's the first time out of the box but I think we all felt that was really valuable the second thing the second point I would make has already been made but I think it's worth iterating I think a lot of the confusion here of course that's trying to make that happen and that is because of the way in which we're constrained by city charter so I do agree that it would be very helpful that the next time a group of folks like this sits around they are not so constrained I also completely agree with the thought process that in general within reason the more options you have in life is better I tend to disagree with any more than it is I do have a certain trust in the city manager and city council with the appropriate oversight I think we've got a reasonable list and from my perspective at this point I'm perfectly comfortable moving forward with that list thank you again and thank you for the time thank you everybody it's been a pleasure to serve on this committee and learn about our city process on the bond issue I would reiterate what everybody has already said I would agree with everything the only thing I would add is it kind of goes to the point that has been raised about the neighborhood services tagline that's been given to this committee and perhaps as has been addressed by Chris it's more the semantics because of the charter but in terms of going back what we just made is how can we educate the community about what is exactly this housing bond project is maybe get the creative minds from ad agencies that work so closely with the city to come up with a creative way in which we can sell this and make it more understandable to our citizens okay I'll be quick so thank you to everyone to the staff I think we you know we're facing a reality in San Antonio that income disparity is continues to to grow I think that the time for this bond is now I don't feel comfortable with saying let's wait I feel comfortable with moving forward with this now this is an issue of equity and justice I also want to say that I echo the sentiment that although maybe the charge of this committee ends today the charge that we feel individually as citizens and representatives of our parts of the city should and will keep going we've talked about yes committees and I know that specifically Anna Sandoval and myself are looking forward to bringing forth the document recommendations from whoever is interested in being a part of this talking about feedback on the process accountability, transparency and our recommendation for the urban renewal plan so I invite you to be a part of this with us and I'm looking forward just to having the voters approve this I just like to thank everyone for having me working with my co-chair with the housing commission Jackie Gorman of course thanks to the city staff and everybody for doing all the hard work that everyone's done in general I support the general consensus everyone has come up with here collectively but as a succinct statement I support recommending the top 10 areas of the most recent survey results to city council, thank you I appreciate the exchange of ideas we've had on this committee we may not always agree but we do have San Antonio and its citizens at heart having said that I ask you to realize that only part of the near west five point area is all that remains of the original recommendations of the city staff someone someone eliminated one of them on my recommendation about the one that was in district 9 was not ideal I don't think any of those recommendations were a part of not in my backyard I realized that there are there's the need for affordable housing in every area of town and so I ask you to consider the nurses aid that gets off at three in the morning whatever time she's had to work over and she has to commute all the way from the south the east or the west side from the medical center either by bus which has reduced service at those hours or by car and realize that housing in the medical center we need to leave the borzbach area has small areas and is probably going to be priced out of our league because it's more conducive to commercial I feel we really need to leave the Ocala on there as a possibility Thank you I have a great respect, admiration and appreciation for this entire process it's been transparent city staff has been incredibly responsive to all of our requests they've been many and in some cases excessive but I really appreciate getting the additional maps and charts and information to help us think through all of this as a result of that and the bus tour and the meetings with the HOAs there have been some key points that have come up that we know now can be emphasized as the public is to be informed prior to the vote and the biggest ones are no one's going to be displaced we're not going to use eminent domain and that this is not affordable housing like we've known it in the past and this is a workforce affordable housing so I think that's really key in terms of informing anyone and everyone about this as we go forward because as we saw, as we heard with the numbers, the projected growth for the city of San Antonio it's not a matter of if we build it will they come, they're coming so we need to build it and I think everyone here would like for this to be successful is that are really most likely to succeed for consideration I think we could actually narrow it down to 8 to 10 areas but overall I'm really pleased with the process I'm glad to have been part of it, thank you I couldn't agree with you more on everything you said Sylvia we have some big challenges and hurdles when I try to explain this to my husband one minute I'm talking urban renewal the next minute I'm talking affordable housing the next minute I'm talking neighborhood improvements and he says well which one is it and what's the definition of each one so we do have some challenges but as the 7th largest city in the United States we need to take some action and that bus tour was a real eye opener we need some money to fix some of these areas and we need to do it right I think another really large hurdle for our committee is we're creating maps to fit into a plan that doesn't even exist yet we saw a draft of a plan that had gaping holes in it didn't address the issues of imminent domain in a few other areas so I'm gonna put my faith that the final draft is good so that I can support this to our district members thank you for the staff for the enormous amount of information you gave us so I do believe everybody here wants us to succeed and right now as it stands with the list as it is I do not believe that will occur and this is the main reason why and I can't stress enough this is being a pilot but take a step back for a second and recognize that the goal is for us to come up with a list of projects that the council will say we want to put this on the ballot and that the voters yes, this is what we want we've been meeting since October and like clockwork every single meeting quickly diverts into a discussion of projects today our chair and Peter again at the beginning had to remind us we are not here to pick projects there's 30 people here 30 smart individuals if it's that confusing for us how confusing is it gonna be for the voters and let me remind you it is very easy to lose credibility with the voter it is extremely difficult to build it with them and if voters believe that they are voting in a project or a house that is going to be built within their area and it is not built they are highly unlikely to vote for this to pass next time and so when you increase it you are taking a gamble that voters are going to understand this and that being the case I think that it is too high and we are increasing the chance for city staff not to succeed if we leave it at this current length well, first of all I'd like to also say thank you to everyone pero lo voy a decir en español le doy muchas gracias a este comité le doy gracias a los empleados del concilio le doy gracias a mi consejero del distrito 10 por darme esta oportunidad I said what everybody else said but in Spanish so um I've sat here and listened to a lot of extremely smart people and people with heart people who care I unfortunately agree with Ricardo that the people who need this are not going to understand it and if we do not do it right the first time there will not be a next time and someone here said let's get on with it we've done all of this let's move on let's take part of the winning team and we may not make the ultimate decision but the media will definitely go to the committee and say you're the ones that make the suggestions and you know why they're going to do that because they don't understand it I'm afraid that the bond the entire bond not just this particular issue will fail if we're not careful we have not given thought to all the other projects and committees that are working on this particular bond so I want you to really give it some thought when the time comes for us to make this vote because we do care about the people that are in need of housing what we call the working poor there's a lot of working poor out there in San Antonio and they do deserve better and I want us to give them better but if we don't think about it and it fails they'll never trust again thank you well I want to thank everyone for all the comments this was a great idea by and that throughout these meetings we haven't had the opportunity to hear from everyone so Jackie put everyone on the spot tonight and made you say something and I think for the most part what I heard was that there's a lot of optimism by the committee members in our city in the ability for us to make good decisions and be stewards of what's been placed in front of us as people went around the room I was making some notes and I heard but for the most part everyone has been very positive about what we're doing and how we're moving forward I heard things like let's get on with it I'm excited I heard someone say they were excited to create housing it's a noble cause they're comfortable with the rankings we've come up with a very good list we don't need to table this but we've really commented that much throughout the process that you've thought about this deeply you've been concerned about it you want to do what's right for the city I don't get the impression from the majority of committee members here that there's confusion on their part they know what their duty is they know what has been asked of them and they're ready to commit and move forward I do understand that some people still have some reservations but I think for the most part I feel like it's a good list whether we narrow it down by a few more areas it's subject to this committee for a final vote but I want to commend everyone on the work that they did again I'm excited to have heard from everyone and I want to thank you for your participation and the optimism you have for the future of our city thank you Civic responsibility a responsibility that went along with that we committed to be in here and we've done a pretty good job of that we committed to being engaged and I think we've done an excellent job that we committed to doing the best that we could do and the time that we had and I think we've done a great job with that I think we have learned our charge our charge does not end tonight though and I think it's real important that everyone understands that when we walk out of this door tonight our role is not over it's really just beginning because we then become the ambassadors for this we are the translators so when you go to your neighborhood association meeting and they're talking about this it's going to be up to you because you were sitting here all these times to explain to them what it is that we're doing and we need to be really clear that we can all do that and I think that it's important one of the most amazing things about this process has been that we came to this first meeting from very different places ideologically, politically what we thought about this issue and throughout the whole thing we managed through a process of civil discourse to come together and try to work toward a solution and I think that in these divisive times in our country and in our community the fact that 32 citizens could sit down together and have respectful disagreements conversations where we all learned something where you could leave the table and say well you know what Peggy see I didn't agree with you but I understand what you told me then we've done something amazing here so I just wanted to say that and thank all of you and thank the staff for giving us the amazing support that you did so I guess our next question is does anyone have a motion that they'd like to put forth Joy. Okay thank you. I'd like to make a motion to put forth all of the properties that are on the list as shown there on the screen for approval by City Council. Is there a second to that motion? Who is that? I can't see. Miss Coda was that you? Oh okay Linda Lopez George. Alright it's been properly moved in second that we recommend to City Council the inclusion of all of the 13 areas that are listed on the screen there as to be included in the urban renewal plan briefly is there any discussion other than what we have already said anything new? Hearing none we're going to ask staff to take us through a roll call please. Claudia Tom. Anne. James. Beverly. No. Joy. Elaine. Carla. Andrea. Rodolfo. Tinker. Natalie. Trisha. Jim. Jackie. Eloro. Bill. Ney. Dominique. Anna. Michael. Chris. Linda. George. Colleen. Sylvia. Peggy. Ricardo. And Connie. 22 yeses. 22 yeses. I have 3, 4 nos and one extension to the motion passes. Motion passes everybody. Peter Richard did you guys want to give us a quick draft overview of the urban renewal plan? Thank you Jackie. We will just take one minute. We just got to put the power point back up. What we're going to show you is just a quick slide. It's in your presentation. And as we said tonight we'll email you the urban renewal plan in its first draft format. But what it will include is this here on the screen. There'll be a general description of the approved eligible areas that City Council will ultimately approve. Similar to the slides that you have seen in the geographic area and some of the descriptions of it. We'll have a scope in this document of what is going to be done or potentially could be done. What are some of the eligible activities that we'll do. We'll talk about some of the development requirements. This is something that you all talked about consistently. So there'll be language in there about minimum affordability requirements. That as an example is 80% of the area median income. So that's a little bit more than that. So that'll be something listed in there. There'll be some design guidelines that you have talked about as well consistently. So that the new development is compatible with existing neighborhoods. That'll be listed in this urban renewal plan. That'll kind of make sure we do this when we ultimately roll the program out. And then there'll be some description about opportunities for leveraged funding that could come from the city as well. How additional dollars could be brought to the housing development of the area. So this is just a general overview of what will be in the urban renewal plan. You all had asked that we kind of go over this a little bit more with you. And this is what this is tonight, but you'll actually get the actual document in a few weeks from now when we first post it for the public hearing. That's it, Jackie. Does anybody have any questions for Peter? Richard, do you have anything you need to respond to? No. Thank you all very much for your active and dedicated participation in this process. We absolutely appreciate it. And you helped to make what we arrived at better than what we started with. Thank you very much. Let me just make a few comments. And then we'll close the meeting. Staff will be compiling the final list of areas based on our actions tonight, and then we'll have a meeting on the 14th, which the mayor of City Council will then take under review. City Council will take formal action regarding the approval of the areas for urban renewal on Thursday, December the 15th at the City Council meeting. Staff will be sending out an email and update calendar invites summarizing these and other important dates. Again, the B-Session meeting will be held at the City Council public meeting following day for formal approval. I want to thank everyone for their participation in attendance. It's been very challenging and as has been said we've heard from some very highly educated and well-intentioned people to do the right thing for the City of San Antonio. So I want to thank everyone and have a good evening. If there's no other business then one more point, Hannah. Thank you. I just want to reiterate what my colleague Kota brought up is we are planning to work together to submit a document to staff and to council regarding our comments on the process, suggestions for next time as well as comments on the urban renewal plan itself. If you would like to work with us we'll reach out to you nonetheless but if you would like to work with us please contact me after the meeting and we would love to have your basically your names on the document with us when we submit it so that it's a strong comment coming from the committee. Thank you. Thank you, Hannah. This meeting is adjourned.