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Welcome to Toffy TV, I am here with one of Everton's greatest ever strike partnerships. when you and oversee and I got injured trying to protect achieved right and I got myself injured trying to kick something dead I was kicking out yw tu without doubts when I sat on the bench for 13 years watching you too you were the best The country by a million miles I am a million milesonae Te stannig they were great and when they talk about Geegan and Tosha, she's a little Yatures Ysgrif Yee Diolch o gyflau'r arfer Er because he's got the coverage he gave him the wake-up with you and then she's got lights on and it's like that, isn't it? Yeah listen, we were a young team. We needed some guidance, I think Gary Stevens, myself, Trevor, and she were young players who were like that experience. And I think Howard decided to bring in Pandee, to bring in Peter Reed as well, and they gave us the experience and they came in and they started to the restroom. We needed a little bit of leadership as a team, but these two came in and obviously where our experience prospective pros had their added to it, not just on the field, but off the field as well, and brought everybody together. We got into this mentality about how important is winning games and how vulnerableEm ac yn llawer i'r gweithliadau ei wneud ei wneud ei chael i wneud oherwydd yn adeiladau i'r hyn o'r iawn. Yn y ffitrwch, mae'n edrych yn fathau i gael i'r gwendig fathau oherwydd yn adeiladau i'r gwneudol. Wyth i dosnod o mwybol arni? Felly eu cyfr登 oedd yn ei wneud hawt yn gaf i fynd yw'r ysgrifennu o'n ôl. I had a really good career, I had won lots of things, I had done lots of things, but I had a couple of years of wolves where the weight had gone down, come back up, it looked like we were going down again, wolves were in trouble, they were going into, they were becoming insolved, they were going into the administration. So I'm kind of thinking, I was only, I say it was only, I was 28, so I kind of thought maybe that's it for me. I really, really could see no future path that was going to take me to where we ended up. So when I heard that Everton were interested and wanted to take me up there, I thought goodness me, this was just too good a chance to turn down for me. So I mean, and as much as I might have invigorated some of the guys that Everton, going to Everton was like giving me a new life, it was like someone just pumped all this fresh air into my body and gave me a platform to go and enjoy football again, which I hadn't done for quite some time. When you join Everton, as you'll know, because he's one of them, they're renowned for their number 9s, you know, from Dixie to Graham, there's a host of them, the Joe Royal, you know, Bob Lachford. You join Everton, you know about these things, and I joined as a 9, and I thought this is the kind of club that appreciates set performance in the way that a lot of clubs do it. Newcastle is probably another club that does, you can share it with Michael McDonald and people like that before the number 9. There's a few clubs in, you know, they have a number, and it sticks with them, and Everton's was number 9, it was always number 9. They always had a great 9 somewhere, and I thought it was a great chance for me, and it gave me a new life. And these young boys gave me a, like a, like a second life to jump in again. We gave you nice and pain in the legs to be used to do the run. No, you never! See, that's rubbish, because you see, whereas I used to protect Sharpie all the time, and say, you stay up front sharp, every time we could see to the corner, I'll run back 100 yards, and then I'll run back up 100 yards. You should keep yourself fresh up there so you can get 30 goals a season. Yeah. So it was noticeable when I left, and you had to go back to that record, and Lenica stayed up front. That's true. You only have to go, darling. Correct. Yeah, you go. Off we go. What did you find when you came into that session? Because, like I was saying to Graham, we had some moments, we had some towel coming where, at times, we were brilliant, and then we couldn't seem to get any momentum going, and as Graham rightly said, we were a young side. So what did you come in and think, this side's actually better than it's showing? Or is it about you just trying to feed yourself? No, no, the side is definitely better than what we showed. I can remember when you talked about the Coventry game, when you played it. It was a cup tie. A cup tie. I remember we played Coventry again in the league match. Do you remember? Soon after I joined, and it was a nil-nil. It was a terrible game. It was horrible. Hardly anyone on the ground. It was a dreadful game. I remember the whistle going, the nil-nil, and the birds ringing round. The cushions. So I never walked off that pitch then thinking, this is a great side. No. But there were signs. And a fearlessly how it worked. There were signs that he had to do things. He played Jim Arnold one day, Neville in the next game. Jim won game, Neville in the next game. He eventually had to make quite big decisions about certain players. Mark Higgins. Higgins was injured without. He had to make the decision. Sorry, it's going to be Ratson, it's going to be a Mountfield. It's going to be Neville and Gold. That's going to be my trio at the bank. These were big decisions he made. And you know, Reedy coming in and staying in permanently. Me coming in and playing with Graham. And having the belief that we were going to be all right. I'm going to play Sheedy. I'm going to play Trevor Stephen. Gary Stevens going to come in and play Mike Black. Stay there. And people like Andy King were missing out. Terry Curran. We'd all contributed. Like Harco and Mitchell. You know, we're only going to have to put up with being in and out the team. So I think come about December. And I remember we had to burn me up. Burn me up, sit you away. Burn me up, sit you away. And I remember we had a meeting. And I would come in and I'm convinced it was that game. And he just said to us, right. He said, this is the team. It's you boys again. He said, I believe in you. But if it doesn't happen. I'm seriously going to have to change it. And we bet and beat them 2-0. I think. That's a bad drill. 2-0. Correct. We've got a lot of street goals. I was injured. That was a down time. And that's why Howard had said you can have one more chance. And then I think we beat Burn me up 2-0 away. We went to Stoke. The next week we went to FA Cup. The FA Cup was Monday I think. And we went to Stoke on Saturday. So there was those games. And people always talk about Oxford. People always talk about Oxford though. It's been a turning point. I believe it was that Christmas New Year period. I really do. A few weeks ago when he said Ben, he was interested in it. Burn me in for me. Followed by Stoke. When Howard opened the windows. Just let noise in. That was the first one as well. I'll never. I'll never. I did something. I did so. Those two games for me. Turned it. Because from that Stoke game. I think we had lost the game the rest of the season. It was right there. There you go. So when people talk about our great season. It wasn't just that. It was like from January 2004. Right through to when you won the title. That's true. That's true. It's me. It's me. It's me. I'm getting carried away again. From January 84. Right through to when you won the title. For the second time. In 87. So right through to that. That was like a two and a half year spell. Where no one could touch ever. Really. No one could touch ever. Which makes it all the more tragic. That we'd never got the chance to compete in the European Cup. As it was then. Because I really do think we'd have won it. I think we were good enough to win that trophy. And it would have been nice to have a chance at it. You couldn't play in the league. No. You could have just checked that out. But obviously I didn't mean to go. Getting to the finals. Didn't mean that we had off with the way. Because you just mentioned it. She doesn't need to be battered in the form. When you play in the fillet. Was a tough one wasn't it. Terminities in me. Don't touch me. Because we had broken and all that. Let me just try to build up line up. Because I think we were actually brilliant. I thought I won it. Actually I won it. They had the contentious again. Breath Green was Robinson. Ah, yeah. I remember him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then it gave us anything. So, I think getting to the final was a big thing for the players anyway. You know, the first final. And then the disappointment of losing the replay of main road. Striking as soon as the great striker. You just didn't play as well. No. I just think that was the first. Well, maybe most of us, if not all, first visit to Wendell. It was nice. Yeah, yeah. So, all the way up for that as well. It's incredible. You've seen all the booties at the pass cut finals. So, we went there to enjoy it. We did. The replay was a little bit of a damsel quiver. We lost the kind of thing. That for me gave us the belief that there'd been a bit of an answer. But it didn't. There'd be a cut now. It was the reason why we can't get, you know, as far as possible, back to Wendell. We all wanted to go back to Wendell. And obviously, Anthony was cut tied, could play in the lead cut. So, we were still in the FA cup. You know, and that just gave us that. And said, we can still do that. And we just said December, and I was just saying, the belief was coming in at the side. We talked about Andy and Rudy coming in, and winning games, breathing more confidence. And we just won a little role. You know, we're just in a little role. And even though we got beat and cut a roller-sleeves up, go again, then you'll get to the FA cup final, 8-4 was brilliant. But I just said the semi-final and then she scored. You have to talk about North County. We've got to do well, he's sat here. North County. I see the goal again the other day. Jaffe wanted to swim back, but obviously. No, another one in the midway. Ritchie Oaks got up first. I took the set up under the ball. Did you? You never took a fan out of it. I didn't manufacture something. What were you thinking? No idea. I've no idea. I've no idea. He didn't trust his right foot. I think it was a bit of that. It was a bit of that. That was a tough time to score North County. They were good. They were decent. They scored first. Yeah, Ritchie scored the equaliser. And then we got the second half. I don't know what happened. I remember it coming over. Sheads again floated one in from the left. Just that kind of outswinger that's horrible on to deal with. And I think as it came over you, I don't know whether I kind of must have misjudged it. Because you know when the ball's in flight and you make your mind up you're going to hit it. Well as it was coming I think I made my mind up I was going to hit it. But then when it dipped a bit, I'd already made my mind up I was going to hit it. So I never thought to change my mind to try and kick it. And I just thought, I'll just dive at this. And seriously I have no idea why I did it. When I see it, if I had been commentating on that today, these days I'd have gone, what the hell is he doing? What is he doing? What does that fool think he's doing? Trying to dive and hit a ball. It's just like a half for it. It's just kind of bounced. And as it bounced I got a perfect touch on it. Did you see it going in? Yeah, I could see it as soon as I headed it. I could see it going past the volley. And I knew it was in as soon as I headed it. But I got up and brought it away. I'm thinking, it's only later. And I think so. What did I do? What did I do? Why did I do it? And not only that. How did I do it? If you were to do that again and say it forward, when it chipped in 100 balls and I want you to dive in and get it on the half volley and score. I bet you couldn't do it. No chance. I've never seen you do it again. So it was important. Put it on the decent side then. Put it on the decent side. I don't see it. Then they have to play Brian Kilpan as well. Kill a player by. Kill a player by. Kill a player by. They were on the decent side. They were on the decent side. Away from home was the topic. That was a team. What you saw that day was what we had become. We had become a really hard team to beat. Which was hugely important. That was more important than anything. And when you add to that, being a hard team to beat. And when you had a quartet of players, and I mean this, I know Richel played that day and played probably, as I've said, he was a terrific asset. But when you had Trevor Steeve and Shady, Sharpen and Gray, as a quartet of attacking players, and you had Reedy and Brace, no, Brace wasn't there. Reedy and Richel, how would it have been that day? Brace didn't come to me in that season, did he? So it was Reedy and Brace, Reedy and R4, and Richel playing in there. And then she played midfield. And she played midfield. Right side midfield at times. When you had them, and the goalkeeper, who was the best in the world, you kind of had the right mix. You kind of had the mix. And then what they had very quickly was the mentality. Suddenly came to them about what it meant to win. And I think that's one of the most important things. Winning, people say that the Olympic motto is not the winning, it's the taking part. I never bought that. I never bought it, and I never will buy it. For me, it's the winning, not the taking part, the matters life. And what these guys got was, very quickly was, they liked winning. They began enjoying it. They began every weekend going out and thinking, I'm going to have a good weekend. Why? Because we've just won again. That's what they became. And they were brilliant. I have to say every one of them. And I can look right through team Gary, Kevin Rats, Derek, Bales, Sharpie, Enshay, Kevin Rich, Sheeds, Trevor Steven. They all enjoyed winning football matches. They all enjoyed it. And suddenly they thought, I like this. This is better than getting beat. What it is. And it was. And it was. Well, when you, so suppose, we move forward to Wimbledig to the epic of Farnland, to Saffaiburton, to build up on everything else. That goes on the shenanigans and Freddie Starr and all of that. But that dig home to Wimbledig to the best fans it was like. And now you can never, you can never take it to. But what I mean is that they mean to start that momentum. Did you believe that was playing for them? Yeah, listen, we knew it was going to be tough because they were a decent side as well. You know, we played when they first came up in the first division. I remember playing down there, they broke the game this season. I think it was 83 or something. We got weak. Yeah, Dave Johnson played up front alongside me. So we knew they were a decent side more as Johnson, John Barnes. You know, the two wingers, Calegir, Jorgen. So we knew it was a turkey, but we knew if we played to a potential, we would win. But seeing that, we were fortunate because they started the better. You know, they were a couple of half chances. Fans who missed a great chance were ahead of them. I think they were a lot of chances. So going into it, and again, I think the experience that was their first cup final for those players as well, but I think the experience we had in the league cup helped us. But once we got the first goal, I think at the end, they ain't coming back into this. We just kind of grew into the game and Trevor gave the young left back it. Torrid time, yeah, he did. He did. But what about your goal? I mean, you go golf, because Gary's leaving, that's a shot. Yeah. Oh, that was a shot. That was a shot. It's amazing Gary's been involved in a couple of goals. I can remember. But no, listen, I've grown up as a kid in Scotland. It was all about cup finals. We'd watch the Scottish Cup final, then we'd go straight down, get the highlights in English cup final, the English Cup final, all was said. An ex-register, and all that pomp and the ceremony and everything else. It wasn't just Rangers and Celtic in here every year. So it was that piece about the FEC Cup in the history. For me to go to score the first goal was brilliant, because we paid for that watching it. They took as much enjoyment out of that as well. So I think to score an FEC Cup final would be on my dreams, kind of thing to do, to actually do it. I think, wow. So as I say, Gary Shortball came to me and my first touch was good. It was a case of just concentrating and trying to hit the target and surprised me that. We did it, yeah. He should be surprised, yeah. Not as much as I've been surprised by your segment. It's not a joke, by the way. VIR, would it stand now and do it? Yeah, I've hit it percent. I've touched it. Listen, I'd defy anyone to look at it and say that I made coins after the goal that I did. Hadn't the ball. I just hit to the ball on his arm. So it was, what a total control of it. I've no idea, but I didn't care. I didn't care, anyway. I mean, listen, I'd felt that day and these boys were so confident pre-Cup final and everything they said will beat them, will beat them easier, were better than them. They were right, but I was kind of had my old head on and I'm saying, nah, this is going to be a tough game. This is going to be the other one. Nah, we'll beat them this season. We'll beat them, and I knew we'd get it. And on the day, if they'd have got one, if they'd have got two, we'd have got three. If they'd have got three, we'd have got four. We were that much better than them. So, I think the second one just, it kind of gave us a little bit of a marine space. And as soon as it did go in, you looked around, what for them, you look at the footage, they've gone then. They knew they weren't going to get two. The best goal came on the wall to beat twice in like 20 minutes, no chance. No chance. And that's when you get through one of the best offences in the world in 20 minutes. You get through them twice. You're doing really well. So, I think we knew, as soon as that went in, the second one went in, the game was over. It was done and dusted. We didn't have to play really well after that. We just saw the game out. I guess they call it game management. We just managed the game perfectly for the cup final. Saw it out. And I kind of knew, I kind of had a feeling that that was going to be the start was something special. I kind of had a feeling. These boys probably didn't because they were just young and in the moment. When I was older and thinking a bit more about what was happening. I kind of thought, this could be, this could be the start was something special. I didn't believe it was going to be as special. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I thought it could be something special. Because when you've got back to these reasons, right, and you've won the cup and you've been the seventh in the league, go on. And then we've played best. All major brands are available. We've played best, best, right. And we take the lead out of these panels. We go into that first game. Clive Allen Hattrick with it. Yeah. Thinking, yeah, we've got a good chance of winning the league. And we have got a good chance of winning the league. Well, when was your issue then? Yeah. I thought we'd be good chance of looking forward to it and then to get battered for when the woman thought, wow, bring us back down here. Then the next game we did, when they'd be... West Bram away 2-0. Lost 2-0 in midweek. 2-1 midweek. 2-1 midweek. Yeah. Then we have to wait to check CLA on Friday. So, no, from being up here from winning the league, put on a certain season starts off poorly, we think, wow, reality check here, what's going to happen. Well, all kids, the players again, it was a case of knocking down. And I think in that time as well, we had the transition of calling Harry, having to go coaching for the first time. I mean, a lot of the younger players had grown up we call and got most respect for them. I think in moving up, you know, and that was no disrespect to Mick Keating, who was still involved. But calling just gave us that chance to help. More hands on, it became more hands on. But I remember how we're coming to, we went to Stafford Bridge, a third game, and we had, you know, six goals conceded, two-four, two defeats. And I remember them coming in and saying, I don't care about the result tonight, he said, but I want a clean sheet. That's what I want. He said, I don't want us to concede a goal. And that was all he asked. He said, I don't want anything else if we score, we score. But I don't want us to concede. I want nil. Right? And in Richard's Court, we won one nil. Richard's Court, I didn't play that either. Richard played Friday night last night. Friday night live game when a few live games, correct? And it suddenly just went from there. And we got the nil, we got the clean sheet that Howard did that for. We nicked out the goal and from nowhere, really, the goal came from nowhere. And all of a sudden, bang, off they went, him and Sharpie and Enchie started blitzing everybody in sight. That first two or three months of the season, no one could contain them. And we were just, it was like a, I mean, I watched it. So, it was just, sitting there thinking, no one's going to, no one's going to be odd. You know, hammering Manchester United five in Cudyson. We beat Liverpool, but United five, maybe United the league, both three days. United twice. I think the thing is, as you go on, as Andy says, as you go on, in the pick up results, you get that feeling that, as he said before, if you go one nil down, a panic, we'll see it out, we'll get back in the game, we'll get back one one if we win the game. So there was never a panic about this. Even if we went a go down, it was a case, okay, okay, let's push it off, let's go again. I remember one game, I always say this, when Sheffield wins the league, when we were going for the Tertlund, when we just had the win at Liverpool and everything else, and with that going for Tertlund pressure comes on, but Howard was great in developing the pressure, and it was just a case of just going enjoying, doing what you're doing and you know, the results will come. And we got off with the bus at Sheffield wins, I'll never forget it. I remember, obviously Howard and Colin in the front, and they walked off. They were out first and they were down. And you got up and you went half way down the bus and stopped and said, right, I tell you what, we are not leaving here without something. We are not leaving here without something, so we're going to get something from this game. We were out used to go to win one-nil. Did I say that? Yeah, you said that in the bus, so you come off. Yeah, you do, and you come off. And you think, that's just what the determination we had. We're going to lose this, and we're not going to give it up. And as I said, another one I set up for you bobbled it in. He did set it up for you. Yeah, I bobbled it in. It's the best mistake I've ever had. Again, we walk away from there with another three points and what we've perceived is a difficult game because of the way they played. Yeah, yeah. It's horrible to play against. Yeah, it's just amazing. But I remember just saying, just before that, when we went to Spers, I remember just saying to you, because then, Matthew did I all, wherever he'd done it, and he's gone again. Matt Tyler, it was ITV, ITV followed us. It's a great piece. He's looking at it. It's a great piece. Well, you should have. It was only a bit. I'm David, Nick and Nick. It's where I'm at right now. That was Matt and Tyler. If we talked about this, Matt and Tyler came and he followed us. He followed us in the interviews at the hotel. And he says, I'm well, what will satisfy you tonight? And I went, well, only wins satisfy this team, Mark. Yeah, that was what I said. And I came after it and he said to me, well, you did say it. I said, in all honesty, they're giving us a point here. I'd have taken it. I said, if he'd given us a point, we'd have taken it. But as with that, Neville again made an unbelievable good save right to the death. And we won it. And that was a title for me. That was the one. That was the one. That was a massive statement. It was. That was the one. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It was. It's. Because of is. I don't. I don't. I don't. I don't. All right.anni all go? All right. All right. Oh, I am y selfies. Yes. Go, one. Mae ae'r arnynt y greadiaid! Fe gennym nhw'n greadio... Fe rydw i'n greadio aeth nifer aeth yn ddyfodol. Felly mae wedi ymrwy bethau agon i Eisladau mewn greadio sydd gyda gwaith i ysgol iawn. Nghaith o'r oed y greadiaid yw Eglad unserion maen nhw weld rai o'r gwneud. Rydyn ni wedi eisiau i agon i fynd gallai amddins ar gyfer y greadiaid yw... Rydyn ni wedi eisiau i greadiaid yw... Y rydyn ni wedi bod yn byd a bwysig i'i greadio o'r gwneud. Mae hwn e'n ddweud, mae gennym ni i'n meddwl iawn, ond bod yn ni'n meddwl iawn. Mae gennym ni i'n meddwl ifanc o hwn da. Mae gennym ni i'n meddwl i, fel o'n meddwl i ddim yn ddiemlu fel Roots sy'n gwybod o'i groedd ychydig i gyda penfarrurau, i ddim yn ddechrau, ac yn ddigon o'ch dderwg, mae gennym ni i'n meddwl iechyd, Cyfeidiwch i denu a'r ddweud o'ch rhan o'i gael. Arnynt yn Pomolff Macai. Rhaid imod ha? Goeddiwch dyfano. Mae halu pein. Mae gly crowded. Mae hyn lle eiwallio peon. Mae bod sobais yn I heim shock. Os mae gen i. Go bet dein tof? Doedd os saelun. Mae gwasidd y g tastellren a eich lostig ofr yn Cyngu所以dydd bell. Mae gen i fel galiadno yourdech causedeb. A ddaion gwymlu gyntaf. Mae'r m%, a ti'r bobl yn yr hwnndy. Dyna lle i gweld ydyn nhw bod allysu. I wedi cael ei wren i'r behall i'r caelіч. Ond gallwn y busiad, gallwn wedi gweld yn fyw o'n greu'r Milwyr, ac wedyn yn ddechrau'r gynnwys yng ngithas gwneth hynna. Ond efallai, dylwn i'n ddweud yn bod i'n taffn iawn i gynnydddau'r cwmpan, dweud i gail i ddim yn rhan. Mae'n anon, mae'n anon. Mae'n anon yn ddod. Mae'n anon i'n anon i gael i'ch adeiladau iawn, oherwydd mae'n anon i'ch adeiladau iawn i'r carto'i, ac mae'n anon i'ch anon i'ch annol, Mae'r wath ar yr un cyfnod o'r cwmpain gyda'r Cwmp Gweithniadysgwerth Cymbrannu, yne ai'n gorfod, roeddwn i'n cefnod i gyd yn ei gynnyddur iddi. Mae'r cwpwch yn rhan o'r firioneddau a'r cyfrifio, yn yw i'r cyfrifio newydd. Mae yna chi'n eich hoffb datgol ac mae'n meddwl a'r hyn oedd yn ysgrifennid gyda'r gwaith o gynnal hir oed wedi gyf manufacturerau. A gynnyddio i'r brach o'r slawf yn y ffaisi? Rhaid i'r prysi sy'n fawr, a'r ddechrau ond y ffaisi. Felly mae'r ddechrau yn y blynydd. Ond mae'r ddaeth yn ffaisi, mae'n ffaisi o'r ddechrau. Yn ymddangos nhw, mae'n rhaid i'r team yw'r ddechrau. Yn ymddangos, mae'r dweud o'r ddechrau. Ac y bryd yn eistedd y biomem Argyrchu. Mae'n rhai bod i'r ffaisi, mae'n bryd yn y blynydd. Rwy'n fyddennau i ddweud y ffansastig, roedd hyn gyntaf i ddweud yma. Rydych chi'n rhoi hwn wedi'u amser i gyd ac rydych chi'n rhoi hwn i ddiogel. Wrth i chi ddim yn y Winslow, yma, gyda'r ffordd, ddweud i'r Gwyrd, Rydych chi'n Rwynt Fyllgor, Rydych chi'n mynd i chi, Rydych chi'n mynd i chi, Rydych chi'n mynd i chi. Rydw i'n yw'n Wymslow ac mae'n ddiogel yn Llyfrgell, ac mae'n ddiogel yn y Llyfrgell i'r Llyfrgell. Chwis gwrs, cael ffordd mae'n gweithio, a byddai'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n ysgol. Mae gweithio gweithio'n gyflwyntau a'r ureumau ac yn cyfnod. Wrth gwrs, mae'n gwneud i'n gwneud i gael. A byddai'n eu targi, a'r gwneud i gael ar gael. Mae'n ei gael ardal, oedd yn gwneud i gael y modd a'i gael i'r gwneud i gael. Ac mae'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gwneud i'n gwneud i'n gwneud. A gallwn ni nifer 1985, ac mae wedi bod yn ymwneud amlwg i chi, i chi'n gweithio iawn i chi, ac mae wedi cael ffais i chi eiddem yn gwneud. Efallai, mae beth eich 100 ml. Mae'r gweithio eich eiddydd yn fach, oedd? Mae ym mwyn yn cael ei gweithio, e'i ddafodd i chi. Efallai 10 o gwell yn cyfrifiadol i chi. Greitio eich Llyfr, yw ymwneud i chi. Mae eich ddweud i chi. Mae eich ddweud i chi, a gwybodaeth yma yn nifer 540, I think they meant it. I must have been 64 players there. I was queuing for about three hours. It was an amazing evening. But you just said there that was like the final. So was that similar to the Wafford feeling where you believed that? Yeah, I would say so. 100% We went and said we had to replay against Rapid Vienna. Old Trafford. Old Trafford and four or five with me and the Redienshi. Remember we could stop with the police at night? Can you believe that? We were doing our homework. Me, Sharpie, Redienshi and Brace. Five of us, we got in the car and we went to drive across the M62 to go and watch the game. So because we knew we were playing some of them, one of them in the final. So that's the kind of thing we did. So we're driving along, next minute eight o'r eight o'r and pulled us over. And they thought five guys in the car, they must have nicked it. They intentionally stopped us. And then they got, oh, oh, Peter Reid, oh, Adrian Heath, oh, Paul Bracewell. Sorry guys. On you go, enjoy the game. And we went and watched it. And we left there and we thought, I was kind of glad, I don't know about you. But I was really pleased Rapid Vienna won it. And the only reason I say that is, but I say that is all. So one is the Rangers fan. And the fact that I didn't want to find out we become a Battle of Britain. Because even though we were miles better than Celtic, you know, when you, when an English play Scotland, it kind of goes out the window, doesn't it? And I thought it would have been a much more difficult game for us purely because it was Celtic. And not Rapid Vienna. So I was really pleased because of that, that it didn't become a Battle of Britain Cup final. Because I think it would have been a much more difficult game for us than what turned out. I mean, the end it turned out a stroll. We won the game so easy, it was just ridiculous. Obviously, it was nearly a half-time. Last called a perfectly good goal. A really good goal. And then you should go on a wonder goal to it. Listen, Sharp, he keeps saying I played me in. Honestly, if you watch it, he plays me a terrible ball, it's behind me. And I've got your adjustment quickly. I should have done your hit. Listen, he was different class. He read that play, what he did, how he composed himself was a measure of where he got to as a player. From the guy I met two years earlier. Would you say you improved him? Listen, I would say... No, no, I'm not trying to laugh. Listen, this guy of talent. We all need people sometimes in our lives. I went to Villa as a 19-year-old braw. And I teamed up with a guy called Brian Little. He was totally different from me. Totally different from everything. He was the most skillful player. He was the most skillful friend I ever played alongside. I mean that. He could do things with a football. I would just go wow. So you learn. With him, because he was a jock. Because he's a Rangers fan. Because there was an affinity between us. Because we were pals. I never tried to do it with Sharp. I tried to sort of talk to him about certain things. About jumping for the ball. I took him out and said when you jump early and do all these things like that. And suddenly became a master of it. This jumping early business. I used to watch him after I left. And I used to watch him jump up and mess people about. And I used to think, yeah, I remember that. I remember that. I'd like to think, the only thing he learned from me was like. Winning is pretty much everything. Winning is everything. I said it earlier. I don't get any joy from competing in that winning. I think if you're competing you might as well win. And I think if I taught him anything it was like. Enjoy winning. Because he was much more skillful than me. He's a better player than I was. And he could do things I couldn't do. But I could do things he couldn't. And I think my aggression he picked up. I think he definitely picked up. I think he definitely picked up. Because he was soft. But he was a nice guy. Nice setting forward. I'd like to think I taught him how aggression can be in the game. And he became a nasty bastard. Sorry. No one could teach him. He was in a natural curve of getting better. And he was always going to get better. Playing for Scotland. Winning titles. Winning curves. He was always going to become what he became. After that obviously we won that. Is there a feeling? I went to Wembley on a Saturday against United thinking. Miles better than me. But when you look back another day. But that made the difference. I would have thought. The games that we played in the run up to that. Imagine that now a days. You know we can't do that. And we were consistently playing. Game. Rest. Looking for another game. Rest. It was crazy. And we battered Manchester United. Battered every opportunity. There wasn't any fear there. Obviously go to a cup final. Again in those days extremely hot on the day. And I just think. We just reached that plateau. We just did nothing left in our legs. If we'd have played that game on the Sunday. I think it would have been a different outcome. I think it just came to. People talk about different stories getting bandied around. Over celebrating after the cup. That wasn't true. The thing was. We came back from Rotterdam. Went home. Wights had been in the flight. Went home. We watched the game again on the telly. He recorded it. We sat and watched and drove over our own house. Then it was a case of. Day off. Thursday off. Thursday off and then Friday. And traveling the way on Friday. So it was not really respite for you. It was a case of getting on to it again. I honestly believe. It was a day later. Two days later. I think we did a different outcome. I think I feel I've got a replay. I think that's an absolute certainty. I've thought about that game many times. He and I didn't play. We were as poor probably as we'd been as a partnership. That whole season. That was a disappointing thing for us. We never played. I mean, Reedy always has got us. Reedy loves having got us. But he forgets that we got him through the semi-final when he was hopeless. If you watched that semi-final against Llew Llew, Reedy was shocked. Reedy, you were shocked. Absolutely hopeless. But on the day of that final. We never played. Him and I never played. We never played to the levels that we should have done. That we had done. And I do think it was just a game too far. A day too early. Two days too early. Whatever. Cos we were better than United. We'd beat them five. We'd beat them home and away in the league and league cup. And there was nothing for us to fear with Manchester United. There's some good players. Of course they did. Stapleton and Robin Robertson. White side. These were good, good players. I mean top players. Not just good players but top players. And I just felt one of the days a game went on. We had a couple of chances. I know Reedy hit the post early on. I missed a good chance, second half. But there wasn't many, was there? There wasn't many chances. Then Reedy, when Kevin Moran got sent off. And that actually probably, Yes. The stadium got angry. The whole thing lifted. The Man United fans got angry. They got right behind the team. And instead of giving us life, they gave them life. Definitely. And lifted them. Yeah, hot day again. But I said, the game started within 15 minutes. I just knew my lines had gone. 15 minutes in and you're thinking, I can't be right with something here. And you just couldn't get yourself up. It was happening sharp. It was happening sharp. It was definitely the game but it was sharp. You were applauding. And then you have to remember that this is the season where we had played the league cup final. The league cup up to what? Where do we get to? We were out quite early in the league cup. Let me get in my speakers. At 40 shirts. We've got to beat one now. But we did that. We did the FA cup run. We did the cup winners cup run. With 42 league games. 42 now. 42 in those days. So you're talking like the best part. When people say, he's played 30 games this season. Sorry. He must have played nearly 60. He must have done that. That's the thing. You forget that. Look at it nowadays where it was a squad thing. You're talking about the squad of what? 14. 14. Well, it was 11. Say there was a top team. Then he would have had that. Inche. Harps. Ritchow. And... Bails. Bails in there. I don't know. It was a bit of a fork. Yeah, it was about 15 max. 15 max. Would have been our squad. 15 max. To play 40... I would say 65, 70 games. That year. Everyone must have played 42 league games. Must have been eight in the FA cup. So that's 50. Must have been 10 in the championship. 10 in the championship. The cup of the cup. So it's... So it's... So I think it must have been well near 70 games. Ever played that year. People like Sharpie. Sharpie must have played 60 of them. But it was a game. It was like... He's right. It was a game too far. It's a shame because that sight... Although we did create history. Listen, we did create it. We created history. We won the first European title that ever never won. When will we win another one? Another one? Not in the near future. I would think... Certainly not. I don't think in our lifetime I'll see everyone a European title again. So we were part of something special. But we really wanted to be part of something really special. And that would have been to emulate what Liverpool did when they won their treble. They won the league cup thing. European trophy in the league. For us to have done that to have won the double and then add a European trophy to that would have elevated us into a really special place. I think we're in a special place that ever team. I think we are. Definitely. But I think it would have elevated us into a place where I'm confidently going to say that no Everton team in the next 50 years will get anywhere near. And I hate to say that. But I believe it. That's how big an achievement is. So if you're watching, keep your feet. No. That wasn't a bad way to do it. I'm not saying that Everton won't win again. Anything but. What I'm saying is Everton will not have a team that can win the league title and get to the final FA cup when the European cup winners cup a European trophy in the one season. It won't. It simply won't happen. Maybe it's because other teams are better and Everton is so far behind at the moment. It's going to be tough for them. I would like us to have been sitting here now. Being the elite of the area. I think we're okay. I would like now. How do you think Everton fans look on you? No team. Of course. For me now, watching Everton now I want them to win something. To show that team what it is all about. Winning something for the fans and what it means and how you're held up in the steam and everything else. I want to see now. I think it's great when we've got all the plaudits and as Andy Cwbrett said we're a great side in everything else now but look at what we are in the future. I'm desperate. I'm desperate for us to win. Even if it's a league cup and if the FA cup is a trophy and people ask me a question about what's your most important victory for a team that's picking up that first trophy. That's why that 84 FA cup gave us a platform to say we can go through here. That's it. What a fantastic conversation.