 This is September 25th. This is the House Education Committee and the Vermont House of Representatives. And today we have folks in to talk with us about mask day. We certainly know in this committee what it takes to keep schools open and to keep schools open, buildings open requires keeping the virus at bay. And to keep the virus at bay, we have heard loud and clear that one of the best ways to do that is to include a number of changes in our way of life to keep that virus at bay. Number one is wearing your mask. So this is a group today that will speak with us. This is an exciting student adult collaborative effort to help to make wearing masks cool, among other things. So I'm really delighted to welcome David Auschuler who is an 18 year old high school graduate who really is the founder and starter of this whole mission. And I'm really thrilled to have you here, Doug. Thank you, Doug Auschuler, thank you. Thank you, Chair Webb and all the members of the committee for all you do serving the students and families of Vermont, not just during crisis, but every day of the year. My name is Douglas Auschuler and I'm here today to talk with you about Vermont mask day and how we can all work together to keep Vermont safe from COVID. But before I get to that, I'd like to take a moment to tell you a bit of my story and how I ended up sitting here today. So zooming in front of this education committee here. So do you remember those early days of COVID in March, April and May, even into the summer? I remember the hostility among strangers, avoiding eye contact as much as possible. Maybe you would share a glance with someone, but it was always this distrustful glare into their mask face. It was hard to remember a time where you could stop someone on the street and ask for directions or even suggest for a place, a suggestion for a place to grab dinner. It feels insane even talking about that kind of interaction now. COVID has taken away our ability to connect even at the most simple and pedestrian ways. This past spring, I graduated high school over Zoom and I had already planned to take a gap year to work before going off to college. But COVID had other plans. For the past four summers, I worked as a camp counselor at Shelburne Farms and I planned to return again. As the farm canceled its camps for the season, I had to make a new plan. I decided I wanted to find something that would both help Shelburne Farms and fight COVID. And so with my background in art, although mostly painting and drawing, I thought it'd be fun to try to make and sell masks for Shelburne Farms. This is my plan. I could set up a small lemonade stand style pop-up shop where I would spend time selling my custom masks to visitors and then share the proceeds with the Shelburne Farms and help fight against COVID. After designing a mask and speaking with Shelburne Farms staff, it was clear that there was more potential than a lemonade stand scale operation. I reoriented my focus and to making masks for nonprofits generally. And from that simple concept emerged our mission. By creating a mask associated with a nonprofit's message, we made wearing one of our masks not just a way to protect yourself but a way to make a statement and support a cause you believe in and feel connected with. In the last eight weeks, give that just eight weeks, mask permissions has grown from being associated with one nonprofit to building partnerships with over 30. It has been a roller coaster watching my idea receive the support it has and grow so fast. I am truly grateful. And even in the midst of all this rapid growth, I wanted to do more than just make masks. I wanted to make sure mask permissions message came from the voice of my generation. The importance of a youth-centric message really comes down to two key points. First, because of the lower risk to young people, often it is younger people who fail to follow mask wearing practices sufficiently. And having our masks message made by young people, we can appeal to that demographic easier. Second, I wanted to emphasize that mask wearing is not an act of distrust and self-preservation but rather a selfless act that protects the community as a whole. Where do kids come into play in this, you might ask? Well, at Masked Remissions, we have partnered with Governors Institutes of Vermont to put together a team of their alumni all across the state to become social media ambassadors and help us reach out to their communities. With this approach, young voices craft our message. And as part of society, at least risk to COVID, we, the creators and bearers of these pro-mask messages can show that our acts to protect our communities are truly selfless. I remember the early days of COVID when we would glare at mask strangers around us thinking, are they sick or stay the heck away from me? Today, all of us at Masked Remissions, together with our nonprofit partners are changing that narrative so that tomorrow we will look at each other at other mask people and think, thank you for protecting us. Thank you for your time today. So- Thank you, Doug. I just wanted to remind folks that we did pass the resolution celebrating Mask Day on October 6th. In excitement, my committee started wearing their masks to this meeting, but actually we have learned that you cannot actually pass COVID through Zoom. We were so happy to have scientific data on that. So we now, you were gonna introduce Kyle, I believe Kyle Dodson. Yes, Kyle, thank you for joining us. Kyle is an executive director at the Greater Burlington YMCA, an advisory board member of Masked Remissions and a leader in the nonprofit community. Kyle helps master missions work with its ever-growing network of nonprofit partners. A former Champlain College administrator, Kyle has spent decades working to provide communities with the things they need, education, skills and other resources. And we appreciate having the chance to help him provide our shared communities one more thing, masks. Thank you, welcome, Kyle. Thank you very much. Good morning, Chair Webb and the committee. I, like Doug, want to thank all of you for your service and leadership. We all appreciate it. I just wanted to begin by talking about the importance of masks in general to our functioning at the Y. I presume that most people have a reasonable sense of how Ys operate, but here in Vermont in Burlington, we have a 50,000 square foot facility, 10,000 square feet of early childcare, 40,000 square feet of fitness. We opened our doors in early June and we knock on wood, have been able to operate incredibly safely since that time. And I would argue it's largely due to masks. If you come in the building, everyone is masked all of the time, period. Unless you're grabbing a drink of water or trying to grab a quick bite, you have your mask on in the building, whether you're on a treadmill, you're lifting weights. You are, do not wear your mask if you're swimming. Let me correct that. But when you get out of the pool, you put your mask on. And we feel very confident that our ability to function safely, have people feel comfortable coming in the building has been largely due to the wearing of masks with fidelity. The next thing I'd like to state is just our excitement of being part of this movement, of working with Doug and the other non-for-profits with masks for missions. And we really appreciate the ability to make custom masks. I appreciate it. I'm a person who gives some thought to sartorial matters. And I get bored with the same mask every day. And the idea that I can change them up and have some input on what is represent on my mask is something that I appreciate. And I run into some other people who feel similarly. We hope that the master missions movement will spread and we see that social media is a wonderful opportunity to do so. So I'm sure Doug feel this way and I'm encouraging people to help spread the good word by using social media. And lastly, very connected to that message is I see this as a youth led movement. We have Doug here, a young person who's leading it. And I think it's really important that increasingly in our community and society, we lift up our youth. We allow them to show us the way. I think oftentimes they have insights and energy that we desperately need in the public space. So I applaud Doug and his young colleagues. And we're really excited at the why that this is something that has such a large youth presence. Thank you. Thank you. And I think next we were gonna, I'm gonna just go through and then if the committee has questions we'll pose those. So catch your questions along the way. We have a student here, Doug, how did you connect with Chloe? Can you help us introduce Chloe? I was muted for a second, there we go. So Chloe is a sophomore at Inesburg Falls High School and a proud alumna of the Governor's Institute of Vermont. As you're probably aware, Inesburg Falls is a town about 1,300 near the Canadian border, a bit over an hour northwest of Montpelier. Chloe has been volunteering for Master Missions as one of our social media ambassadors and she's helping Master Missions build awareness for Vermont Mass Day across all of Vermont by helping us reach out to more than 130,000 Instagram users across Vermont. We're so thankful for the time, effort and faith she's invested in our mission. You're welcome to go, Chloe. Welcome, Chloe. Hi, everyone. I just wanted to say thank you for taking your time to do this. And yeah, so for the group I'm in, Governor's Institute and Mass for Missions, I believe that it's really important that more of us need to know why mask wearing is important. And I believe that Vermont Mass State will really help that out. See, like at my school, no one takes mask wearing seriously, I know at least five classes that don't wear their mask and the teachers allow them to. So I personally would like to keep this positive mask wearing going because if we don't, then we don't get to be able to be in school and then elderly gets sick and then we don't have anything. So thank you, Chloe. I can already see in the eyes of my committee members that they're gonna have some questions for you. Thank you, Chloe. And thank you for your work with GIV. We always enjoy hearing from the GIV members. And I think Doreen Kraft was next and tells us how you connected with her, Doug. You're sure, yeah. So Doreen Kraft works with the Vermont Arts World for nearly 40 years. Doreen Kraft is the Executive Director of Burlington City Arts. Doreen also on our advisory board and her team have been helping us engage not only the Burlington arts community but also artists across the entire state. BCA has also been helping us design and implement our statewide arts outreach, public display ideas and our design your own mask initiatives. She is also central to our plans for art contests for best mask design. We're proud to work alongside Doreen and BCA as well as we join them and their mission to nurture Vermont's arts communities. Thank you, Doreen. I've always felt that the arts are gonna set us free and get us through this. So welcome and thank you for joining us. Good morning and Chair Whip. Thank you so much for having us today and being a part of this mission. I have to say that, first of all, I am so proud to be a member of this team to work with such passion that Douglas displays. And I think I'm not sure whether you introduced yourself as an artist yourself, Douglas. So that's so wonderful for us. And in masks for missions, as I think Kyle said earlier, it's a courageous youth led coalition that really truly understands the role that the arts play and can in creating community and fostering new connections. The arts by their nature are collaborative and can help us unite in supporting and protecting each other, especially during this pandemic. As a partner in masks for missions, BCA is facilitating collaborations across the state and creating artists led mask making, mask make and take events for Vermonters of all ages. These workshops will bring together members of the community to co-create and share the joy of art making. Further elevating the role of the arts and the role that the arts play in community engagement. We'll be working with a statewide committee to select iconic Vermont artists as well to create masks that every one of us, including you, Kyle, will have to have one of these masks. We will advance this through an arts competition encouraging people of all ages and talents to make their own masks and collecting portraits of all the people across Vermont who wear those masks and establishing an online portrait gallery for Vermonters to enjoy. So it's gonna be quite a day, quite a week, quite a year for masks becoming central to our identity. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you so much. We have school here. Oh, thank you, Dr. Timothy Leary here. And perhaps you could tell us how you connected with Dr. Leary. So Timothy Leary is our MD, MMSC, Charlotte, physician, professor of medicine, ethicist, infectious disease expert, UVM Medical Center and UVM Learner College of Medicine. Very, very good, long title there. It's impressive just to read it. Anyway, so when we started this project, we knew we'd get hard questions about the science of COVID and the ethics and medical benefits of wearing masks. We wanted an expert to help answer our questions and questions we might receive from the public. Through conversations with the UVM Medical Center and Vermont Department of Health, everyone agreed that Dr. Leary was the perfect fit. We're deeply grateful to them for connecting us with Dr. Leary and also partnering with us to reach out to communities across the state about masks. So thank you. Thank you, Doug. Thank you, Chair Webb and to the committee for welcoming us this morning. As many of you know, Dr. Tony Fauci visited Vermont recently and it hit the news around the country that Vermont has been a leader in COVID-19 for the way that we have come together as a community and suppressed the virus. And I think this opportunity for leadership is gonna continue both at the level of the state and also particularly for our youth. And that's why I'm so proud to be asked by Doug to join this group. I think other places have this upside down. They take the fear and the disruption we all feel. We have lost 58 Vermonters, more than 200,000 Americans and more than a million people worldwide to this pandemic. And of course, there is negativity to this. And yet I think Vermont has paved the way for a different way to think about this and Doug is at the forefront of this where we can say, this is not about loss of freedoms. This is not about fear or shame. This is about being good neighbors. This is about having Vermont continue to be the great place, the beautiful place that it is, the live where people care about each other and we take care of each other. We believe in science and we believe that we can come together and beat this thing. And so I'm committed to supporting Doug and the rest of the team and making sure that our message is on target with the science that we know to be true and that we trust and that we make this not something that people have to give up. You know, I have to wear a mask but more that something that people can feel proud of to say, hey, check it out. We're the kind of community that comes together like this and we can still go to school and we can still go work out and we can still do the things that give us the great quality of life in the state of Vermont. So thank you, Doug, for your leadership and thank you for welcoming us this morning. Excuse me, can you tell us what October 6th will look like, what the plans are for October 6th for mask day? Yes, so let me, I have a little, we have kind of the week of activities and I have a small list of what we have going on. But pretty much on the, let me see if we can pull this up here. Okay, sorry, I got a lot of papers here. Gotta find the right one. But pretty much we have activities going on throughout the whole week and here we are. Okay, so, sorry. So for October 6th, we have our, the governor's, this is Tuesday of that week and we hope to have the governor speak at his press conference that Tuesday. And we, sorry, there's people walking around, but yes, we have pretty much, that's just our Tuesday events, but we have things going on the whole week, ranging from our performance from Grace Potter on Friday to our arts different events going on throughout the week. So with this community engagement, kind of, we have our, let's see, so I just got the list right here. So we have our food bank, microsite mask distribution project, which will be across 100 sites from our food bank is helping us provide masks to the staff and to the constituents. That's kind of our way to get masks out to the people. We have our high school mask day celebration with mask making. This is in partnership with the GIV specifically, but we're looking at trying to have mask making in these different school settings. And then we also have our college mask day, which is the same thing, but based for colleges, which we have opportunities to customize masks in those locations. Finally, also with our Grace Potter concert at the end of the week, we plan on having a lot of art being shown at that event, just to kind of bring that art piece back in. But just kind of take a look at our reach over Vermont. We have this graphic of all the people who are with us from GIV. I think, did you send that to Phil? We may have, yes. Yeah, we did. Phil, can you pull that up? For sure, yeah. I'm sorry, but I don't recall receiving. I do have it on my computer so I can share the screen if that works. Yeah, that'll work. Just a minute. I will make you a co-host. Perfect. So here we go. Let me know one. I think you're good to go now, Doug. Perfect. Okay, so here we go. This is our little thing to show us kind of our connection to different, we have connections with nurses and as well as our social media ambassadors, which are the students. But here is kind of a graphic to show where we have those connections. So we wanna make sure that we spread across Vermont as much as possible. So these are kind of where we have things. Obviously we have the concentration over in Burlington, but we have to spread across. Each of these schools will be having this custom mask opportunity at one point in the week as well as we have a few colleges on our list that we're doing the same deal at. But yes, indeed. And this is through Governors Institute? Is that where these dots come from? Yes, so these are, so the SMA dots and the purple, so the purple and the blue come from Governors Institute because all of our social media ambassadors are related to Governors Institute. The pink dots are representative of nurses that we've reached out to at different schools to try to get connections to their health departments just to spread the word about wearing masks as well as kind of getting a committee of medically inclined people, I guess you could say. Yes, and yeah, so that's kind of what we have for these spread. Yeah, there you go. Okay, are there any questions that committee members have? Representative James. Yeah, thanks. This is so exciting and wonderful. I can't wait to get on your website. I wish I had a chance to do that before committee so that I could ask more informed questions, but I have three questions. One is looking at your map. Is it too late to try to add some activities or get some schools in my area connected? Do you guys have bandwidth for that or are you guys on overload? Well, actually, yeah, so we're definitely still taking in opportunity for adding in schools. So if you have, we can definitely find a time to meet and talk about some more places to add in. We did, so we sent out some emails to lots of schools, principals and nurses and we heard back from a bunch, but we definitely have a lot more who either the email got lost somewhere in there. So we definitely have room in our plan to have more people working with us. So we'd be happy to talk about that. Great. And then my other questions were, and I know I'm sure this is readily available on your website, but I'm just curious about, so the custom aspect of the masks are different artists around the state doing a custom design for you guys and then that's available to be purchased on your site. So in other words, different artists are doing a really cool custom design for you and then that's, so I could go on your site and pick out a design from an artist I like. So the way that we're working with it right now is because we're partnering with nonprofits, it's a mix of the nonprofits design people and me. So I'm kind of, I've had a lot of background in kind of doing some design myself. So it's really, it's a mix of, depending on what the nonprofit wants, it's either their designers or their logo and then if they would like, they come to me and I just scribble away on my iPad and get something a little more exciting out there. But usually it's my own art that goes up onto the mask. Ultimately, it's, I don't take any real credit for it, it's really kind of a collaboration between me and the nonprofit. Got it. So if I go on to the site to choose a mask, am I choosing the nonprofit? And that's how you guys are directing the revenue stream. You take a little bit to support your efforts and then a little bit of the profits flow to that nonprofit or is the money basically going to benefit your efforts or? Of course, yes. So our whole deal is we wanna make sure that buying one of the masks that we make feels more like a donation to that nonprofit that you're buying from. So you're gonna see a list of nonprofits. Right now we're still finalizing designs and getting them all set up on our shop. But once they are all the profits that come from your mask sale, from the mask sale, we'll go straight to the nonprofit. We do have to keep some for our own operations, of course, but aside from that, we make sure that a percentage of it gets to the nonprofit, as well as we're working on opportunities for people who buy masks to have a donation addition so that if somebody does feel extra, extra, you know, that day they can throw in an extra five or 10 or whatever it is. We wanna make sure that it really is, it feels like you're doing something good for the community while protecting your community at the same time. What a great idea. Thank you so much. Thank you. Representative Batchelor. Good morning. Thank you very, very much for this wonderful idea. I'm in the Northeast Kingdom and we are known for being non-existent on most everybody's maps. We do not have an unlock on my desk, which is all wood, but we don't have a lot of COVID up here, but we have a high school with a large amount of students that are not, they're going to school one day a week. And I don't know, I've talked to the superintendent and they're trying, because there are so many students trying to keep them separated and I'm not sure about the mask situation, but everybody seems to be wanting to move to Vermont because we are a safe community or state and the Northeast Kingdom is going to be on somebody's radar. Is there any way we can have something? I see almost nothing, nothing in St. John's Berry, which is in the kingdom, nothing and I'm in Derby line right on the Canadian border. And is there a way that we could get this to the point where we could go shake the bushes and have them contact you and see if we couldn't get a little bit more participation up here? Of course, yeah, no, we're really open to making connections wherever we can. Really in a perfect world, we can be in every high school around. I mean, I think it's really a matter of connecting with us, but yeah, I mean, you're always welcome to, yeah, we're always welcome to kind of work on that. I mean, of course, I'm looking at our map right now and I see there is this area up at the top, the Northeast that definitely is pretty empty. I would love to connect there, because of course, you know, I know you mentioned the people coming into Vermont, we definitely had a lot of thought on tourism and people were really Vermont looking forward to bringing people in and in that new world of increased foot traffic of sorts. We're gonna definitely need to be focused on mass, so I'm glad that you're taking that initiative to ask with that, because it is smart to get involved, even if you're out in the middle of the Northeast. Thank you. So Chloe, my question, I'm concerned to hear what you had to say in terms of the sort of cavalier, maybe if I feel like an attitude on wearing masks that does not sound like it's being supported by the faculty, what's it gonna take? Can you like rephrase that? I really didn't get all of that. Sure, let me see. It sounds like people are not in your school, aren't really taking the mask seriously, and that students and teachers, what do you think it's gonna take to get people to follow the guidance that's coming from the state? I honestly don't know, because it's people's decision to wear masks are not, but I feel like they should respect it all and take it more seriously. So maybe just more of a strict rule in our school, because overall, I don't think our school has a very strict rule about it, so. Thank you. If I jump in, I can add one little thing for high schools generally. I think when it comes to getting people to wear masks, I think that one of the biggest things is not to really force it down people's throats, because we've seen there are a lot of people who feel kind of attacked by the mask-wearing initiative. And so having a level of kind of positivity around masks and once again, changing that message from being, stopping this terribly scary virus to supporting our communities, I think it can help change the narrative around wearing a mask. In terms of getting people to wear them around schools, I think it's gonna be, it's definitely gonna be a tough battle, but I think by once again, changing this narrative to be more of a supportive kind, it can be kind of like the, more of like washing your hands than putting on a muzzle. It's not gonna be, it's not gonna feel too aggressive. Kyle. Yeah, I'm wondering, I agree with Doug's point and I'm very sympathetic of Chloe's challenge up there. It seems clear that Chloe would love to respect this. I wonder if this isn't a case where the community looks to a group that might be able to model it. So rather than pushing down someone's throat, I don't know, you know, Innisburg very well, but some group that is important and respected in the community, I don't know whether it's the National Guard, a group of dairy farmers, but some group that actually comes in wearing masks gives some sort of testimonial to why they do it, why it's important, how they love that community and why they are encouraging that community for the safety of all in that community and for our state, which they know that people in Innisburg love to please consider, you know, wearing masks. You know, something along those lines could be a way to get in there that isn't a hammer over the head, but rather is a, hey, let's do this together. Thank you. Well said, Kyle. I wonder also about inciting competitive instincts. I saw your cool mask, Kyle, and I sort of said, you know, my medical mask is kind of boring and I wish I had the same kind of style and so I bet you there's something there too. Yeah, look at this dog. Come on, you guys, that's pretty cool. Representative Austin. Yes, thank you, Chair Webb. Doug, I just want to give you a tremendous, you and Chloe, a tremendous amount of appreciation for your student activism and bringing the student voice, you know, to this issue. I'm just curious, like how is school going for you right now? The whole, you know, the whole, not set aside the mask project, I'm just wondering how is school going? Well, at the moment, I am, I'm taking a year off. I did just graduate, but no, yeah, I mean, I did spend that last term over Zoom and that time was completely away from school. So I'm very, I'm very sympathetic towards students now and their efforts, as well as keeping in touch with my high school friends who are still there and hearing about it. So there's, you know, I definitely feel that connection with the people who are going through that. But yeah, I think Chloe can speak a little more on the Zoom class feeling than I can at least at the moment. So, Chloe, if you'd like to, you know, throw something in there, you're welcome to. Yeah, for school, it's way different than last year. Obviously, like last semester, when this whole pandemic happened, none of the teachers knew what to do. So we had no work and the teachers are still confused this year. So when they're trying to get us to do stuff, we can't necessarily do it all because it's like, we're only going two days and then we have to take tests online and it's just, it's honestly a mess and I don't like it. Here you, Chloe. Thank you, thank you. Representative Coopley, you're muted. You're muted, Larry. I'll never figure this out. Yeah, Chloe, it's difficult. I think we all understand, you know, teachers are, at least in my area here in Rotland, teachers and students, very anxious to go back to school. But my question to you is, are your teachers wearing masks? Yes, they are. They are. Okay. But some of them have it under their nose. So like. So it's almost like not wearing a mask in some respects. But, you know, just Chloe, be patient. I know it's very difficult, but be patient. There'll be a time when we'll be back to some sort of normalcy. And again, thank you for being with us. Yes. Yeah. Coming before and speaking in a group to people you don't know, it takes some bravery and we appreciate that. And really glad that you made the long trip from Enesburg, so to speak. Kyle. You know, I agree with the general feeling that a softer approach works, but I wonder if there isn't some opportunity to try a little leverage, you know, the question about teachers and maybe in the student newspaper, if there is such or there hopefully some way for student voice to be put out there. And one might point out the potential contradictions between some of the safety concerns that were expressed by the various teachers unions and the lack of wearing the mask to me seemed like perhaps those two positions could be in conflict and one might politely, you know, raise the issue of and perhaps put some statement that came out over the summer about going back to school and how concerned we are about health and safety. And yet this scientifically proven act, which is probably one of the strongest things we have is not being adhered to and that we as the students are concerned for the safety of teachers and our community and the elderly and immune compromise in our community. And we just want to raise a conversation about this. I'm happy to reach out to the principals association too, representative Toof. Thank you. And thank you all for coming in today. I just thought I'd learn my hand. Chloe, I just want to let you know I'm in St. Albans. So we're right next door to you guys. I have a lot of friends and family. Nina Spurxlet does concern me a little bit, but I just want to assure you I have a five year old who's in kindergarten and I thought wearing the mask was going to be difficult for kids of that age to adhere to it and follow the guidelines in the directions, but it's really refreshing to see that they're able to follow those directions. We had soccer practice last night. All the kids had masks on, which was very difficult. I mean, I have mine on when I'm playing on the sideline. I get winded anyway just because I'm a little out of shape, but it's really nice to see their following directions. They don't have, there's not a big issue. I thought it would be a bigger issue. Every once in a while I have to remind them, hey, pull it up over your nose, but they're doing their part and it's just not as a big struggle that I thought I would see at the younger ages, but it does make sense. You see a little bit in the older grades in high school, I could understand that, but these kind of initiatives where you're teaching people and explaining to them, it's all about educating and I just want to assure you that they're doing a good job in the younger grades up here in St. Albans, so thank you. Thank you. Anything else? I want to thank you all so much for joining us today. We've had a long, long session and we appreciate hearing some good news and hearing how people in Vermont are stepping forward, whether it's the arts, it's health, it's the why, it's boys and girls clubs, it's the various groups that are pulling together to try to really make this the Vermont way that we help each other out and we'll fight this. I thank you so much. I'm going to just close this part and just answer anything else and then I'll just want to check in with the committee related to the floor today. And thank you. So you're welcome to stay if you want to listen and if you have other things to do, please go. And Chloe, a special big thanks to you and good luck up there. Appreciate your work. Thank you. Yes, and thank you, Doug and Rick and Tim and Doreen. Much appreciated and Kyle. So today, just the budget, the conference committee has basically completed their work. They're, I believe that there may be some, some, you know, Scribner's kinds of things that they're dealing with or just checking that right now. I did not see anything drastic, but I haven't actually really looked to see if there are any changes to the work that we saw beforehand. I do know that the ADM language, which had been in a tax bill, S27 was stripped from that, but it survived in the budget. So it's still in the budget. We had a little panic about that. At least several people were in a bit of a panic about that. Had lots of emails. But so that does seem to be in state in the budget. And I'm gonna go through it. I encourage everybody else to do that too. And this, I'm hoping that this is it. That we should be able to, depending on, depending on rule of suspensions. Dylan, are you aware of anything that I don't know? Probably. No, no, I'm not. But can I make a pitch for this committee around some work that you'll need to carry on in my spirit next biennium? Please. Please remember that in the budget, I've enclosed a two-year extension of my provision around appointments to unified school boards. And this committee has work to do in the next biennium. I don't know who will be here, but hopefully many of you. And it will be to fix chapter 11 and to ensure that our unified school boards reflect the realities of their structure. And so this is a little bit of Act 46 cleanup. Hopefully the dust will have settled from our long traumatic journey through that experience. But look forward to all of you doing that work. And if you do not, I will be the person in 2022 in May, emailing you nonstop along with Martha Heath and others. So please continue my legacy and finish the job. I would appreciate that. I do hear chapter 11 knocking at our doors, which is governance. And Dylan, I personally am gonna miss you terribly. And I know that the committee is gonna miss your wise words and your discontribution and your engagement in the process, which has been really so wonderful. Now I'm Therina Austin. I just want to say thank you so much, Kate, for your leadership and being a new chair and then having to navigate us through this year. I thought you did an admirable job. And I really appreciate it, especially as a new legislator. So I just want to say thank you. And I just want to say what a pleasure it's been being on this committee. I hope we're all back next year in the legislature. And I hope we're all back in this committee, but it's just been a pleasure. And thank you so much. Here, here. Absolutely. Thank you. It's a really great committee. I was very lucky. Thank you, Kate. And working with Larry and Peter, at the top of the table, really, we were the three musketeers, the three amigos, amigas. With our masks. Yes. All right. With that, I think we can go offline and call it a day.