 It's a unique hustle, nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, huh, name another podcast like this. Who gon' bring it to the table? Boss talk. Who your girlfriend fave? Boss talk. We gon' do it how you want it. Boss talk. Yeah, everybody on it. Boss talk. Check it, check it, check it. It's a unique hustle. It's your boy, E.C.E.O., and I'm here with the lovely official, Ms. Jamaica. What's going on? Yeah, my dad, my dad. We're all gone. Hey, man. I'm feeling real fresh. Jamaica in the house. Hey, man. Jamaica in the house. Check it, man. Yeah. Save, man. I got a guest in here today, man. This is the second time coming on the show, man. I called him. I was like, man, what's up, man? Where you at, man? He was like, man, I'm out this time. You come back on the show, bro. Save, man. We got this brown in the building, man. Money, minds, ENT, man. What's the deal, man? I let your boy, man. What's good? What's going on, man? Shit. Chilling on the man. It's good to have you back in here, man. Yeah, it's good to be back. Save, man. Hey, man. When you left for last time, man, I remember you need coming on the show. You was working so fiercely, man. It was so much going on. Every time I look around, I was talking trash to everybody. I was like brown dropping stuff. All these other niggas, they ain't dropping nothing. He out working all these niggas and it went on for a while. And then all of a sudden it came to a screeching halt. And I was like, what the hell going on? You know something wrong. I knew something was wrong. And I was like, man, what a heck is brown? Like a brown drop when ain't nobody else dropping. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like I was like, damn, he got his own video team and team or something because he'd be dropping all these other niggas like it's so hard. You know? So what happened? Where you been? Man, I had to slide back for a little bit, man, or I had gotten into a little tussle, you know what I'm saying? To where, you know what I'm saying? Somebody had came from behind me and choked me or whatever, you know, kind of mixed with my voice or whatever, man. So I just been chilling, man, let my voice get straight. You know, I've been having people hear me off the feature. What's up, man? I'll be telling them, man, my voice, man, still give me some time. So they think like I got a, you know, maybe I have like, I'm sick or something, but that ain't the case. You know what I'm saying? Like I will choke. You know what I'm saying? So like, I don't know what happened. You know what I'm saying? They, they, they, my voice got messed up or whatever. But it's been healing. But I'm going to get back right back on. You sound like your regular self. It's almost there. I'm going to turn it back on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. We need it, man. To be honest. You know, I love doing this. So have you been writing? The most in the past. I'll write my music. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. You just punch in. Yeah. I just come over something and just go on. Go ahead. Well, it makes time go by since you couldn't, you couldn't punch in because your voice was messed up. Well, like if I write, if my voice ain't, if it ain't coming out how I want it, I ain't going to want to do. Because like, you know what I'm saying? It's like if my hands hurt and I'm trying to draw and I'm lying squiggly, like they ain't coming out. I ain't going to want to do it. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Man, since you've been here, man, we had so many people on the show. Thank you for coming when you did come, man. He came, he blessed the platform, man. I thank God for my people who came out when we didn't even have no followers. Right. Right. Now we're moving up a little bit more and more. Yeah, y'all turning up, man. But you came when it's organic. It was, it was, it's authentic, bro. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. So I appreciate that for real. That's all love, man. You know what I'm saying? That's what it's all about. Then I pick up the phone and call you. You answer. We talk about different things. You know what I'm saying? If I got a question about something, you're going to throw me the answer. That's what it's about, man. And that's stomp down. That's real. You know? I like that part. Like, even you sent me Fleetwood and I enjoyed that, man, I enjoyed it. That dude called me. He didn't stop calling me here lately, but he, you know Fleetwood, he wanted, man, you should see when he came. He had his daughter, they were traveling. It was dope, man. Yeah. Yeah. I enjoyed him, man. Okay. Yeah. He went all the way to Atlanta. You know, he's moving to Atlanta. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But he went through, he had something with Goodymob, you know, and all of them. He had some music. Yeah. And then he told some stories. You didn't watch his episode, did you? I didn't see that one. Nah, man. I didn't even tell you. Kamala Harris was the one who helped him to stop, you know, going to prison and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, man. I thought that was dope. Yeah. You know, she the vice president now. Yeah. Yeah. So what you think about things with this brown, you didn't get to interview him last time. What you got for him? No, no. You want to go back into his history like you do people? Yes, cause y'all never, cause y'all don't do it. It's like, if I don't do it, y'all don't do it. Okay. Well, what's up? So, Mr. Brown. Yeah. Mr. Brown. How did you get started in the music industry and how old were you when you got started in it? Oh, man. I started rapping since the first time. Man, I've been rapping since I was like 13. Wow. So that's how you get started? You know, freestyling, you know, for fun, whatever, you know what I'm saying? Who influenced you at that time to get started? Man, I used to listen to like Swish House and DSR. I had broken into some house and found a DSR city. Oh, really? I love it. You know what I'm saying? I watched the CD player and this DSR, a burn city of DSRs on there. Okay. I think it was, I forgot which one it was. Was that going to do some bad to you? No. It was way before that. There was a freestyle. It was going to be a freestyle. They were yelling on the microphone. You're like, I'ma drop the ball. Volume, volume. Oh, volume. It was volume something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's how they came with it. That's how they came with it. Yeah. So like I became a DSR fan and, you know, Swish House was doing those things. I just started freestyling. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. I was always an AAP. I was turning to school. Yeah. So you know what I'm saying? They be freestyling in the back of the bus. I just started catching on. You know what I'm saying? Wow. I just been doing it since. You're not done. What did you want to become before you were 13 and started, you know, venturing off into that? Man, he had no like. He didn't have no goals or anything. Or what I wanted to be was like nothing I should have been. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, like I had my head in the wrong spot. You know what I'm saying? Exactly. You ain't had no like positive goals. Did you have your mom and your dad in your life when you were growing up? Well, I ain't never met my real dad. But my stepdad, he raised me. That's like my real dad. You know what I'm saying? Okay. So that's your dad? Yeah. So you did have a father figure in your life? Yeah. I ain't really talked to him like that growing up. You know what I'm saying? I was just hard headed. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I did have a father though. So let me ask you this now. So you have kids now? Nope. You don't have any kids? No. Okay. If you had a child at this moment right now. That's dope. Looking back on your life, what is it that he could have said to you or he could have done differently to get you to open up so that y'all could have had that relationship as in like. Oh, like my dad? Yeah. You're your father? I mean, I don't know. Because I know that if you have a child with, you know, being a boy and stuff like that, you would like for him to come to you because every parent want to be able to advise you. You've been through stuff. See, the thing is, it's not like he wasn't trying to. It's that I wasn't trying to listen. You know what I'm saying? Like, I was stubborn growing up. You know what I'm saying? Like I did what I wanted. You know what I'm saying? Like I've been getting my mama here since I was like a kid. You know what I'm saying? It ain't that he wasn't trying to do that. I wasn't trying to hear it. You know what I'm saying? So I mean, it really wasn't nothing he could do. You know, he would my ass. You know what I'm saying? Can I curse on her? You know, he got all my ass. You know what I'm saying? I mean, it ain't really work. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. You know, they always say if you have kids, you're going to get paid back for all the things you did when you were young. Yeah, I hope that ain't true because it's going to be something. That's what they always said. I remember I used to hear stories. He used to tell me stories of things he did when he was young. And I was like, Lord, please don't let my kids be like that. Please. And I've been so blessed that my kids didn't do half of the things, not even a quarter of the things that he did when he was younger. Yeah. That's because God changed my life and I stopped all that stuff. And the me now is just the new me and I thank God for it. You know, I used to be bad. You know, I was worse off. And I come up in a time where everything we did, it was permissible. It was street, you know what I'm saying? And I think all my kids, not just the younger ones, but the older ones as well, they turn out good. Deal. Because I changed. And God, that's a blessing in itself. Yeah, you changed that energy going. You changed the whole thing. So, yeah, you got the new me, the old me, who would have shut you down. No, but Brown man in the building, Brown is back. Hey, boss talk 101, man. We got Brown tonight. Deal. So what was the first? Do you remember the first song you rapped? Oh, the first song I did. Man, some bullshit. I ain't gonna lie, you know what I'm saying? My partner, he'll be like, you remember you made that song? We just get to laugh. I'm like, here you go. So when did you start taking it serious? Probably like at 16. I had my mom buy me a laptop. What a program, like a bullshit mic, you know what I'm saying? Me and my partner Tom started a 420 records before with Money Mines. And we're messing with her or whatever. I mean, we want nothing like dropping videos. And I knew it was just some kids, you know what I'm saying? So she had faith in you? Nah, it ain't that. Because for her to buy that for you, I mean, she's pushing you towards it. She knew that's what I wanted to do, you know what I'm saying? Because she's supporting you. She probably didn't like what my son's gonna blow. She probably didn't think all that, you know? I would just be really, you know what I'm saying? But she's supporting, she could have been hating it. Like, nah, nah, nah, you're not going to. Yeah, she got it for me, you know what I'm saying? Like, you know, like it beats like doing what I was already doing, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. So like, yeah, in a way, yeah. Yeah, she was supporting. Shout out for the mom. Shout out. I knew you were gonna get that in there some kind of way. Shout out for the mom. Right. She was fighting for that. Nah, my mom always been there for me, though. Right. Yeah, ain't nothing wrong with that. Shout out to the dad. His dad wasn't there. His father was, but his dad wasn't. Yeah, step up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He been there. God always found a way to make it all right, you know? Brown, so yeah, man, so, I mean, the music, man, is what we go by, right? I'm gonna get into this music a little bit. But what I see a lot here since I've been doing the interview and a lot of times, man, when it comes down to these artists, man, a lot of them really not making money from the music. You know what I mean? Yeah. I ask them, how are you making money? And they be like, man, they ain't gonna lie still in the street. So a man ain't gonna lie. You know what I mean? Yeah. It'd be like, throw, you know what I'm saying? How can a man make money and benefit off this music? Man, all they gotta do is build their booths. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. It's like, you can be a hard one. You got Apple and all the streaming. I mean, yeah. Does that stuff work? Yeah. But you gotta promote it. You can't just like, oh, I'm gonna drop this album on, or throw this show key. Now you gotta promote it, too. You know what I'm saying? You got your fan, man. Hey, look, come by my music on here. Other than that, unless you're charging for features or to perform somewhere, you know what I'm saying? But other than that, like, you gotta build it. It's a business, you know what I'm saying? All gas, no brakes, man. It was doing numbers on YouTube with that. And there's a lot of your stuff. It was doing numbers. Do you think when you look at your analytics, was it in Dallas or was this just everywhere? Man, oh, I don't know. My stuff be from like, when I get on my YouTube fortresses, or like, you know what I'm saying? Where it takes you, all that. It'll be from like, California. Really? Miami, Texas. And it's like, it's another state. So your biggest audience is in California? I think it'll be a mixture between Texas and Miami. I mean, Florida and California, you know what I'm saying? Even better than Texas? Nah, probably Texas is my biggest one. So Texas is the first and the end to be California and Florida? Yeah. What's the age range? I think it's like under 35, like between 18 and 35. Mainly men? It's some women, but mostly men, yo. Okay. But it's the style you use, man, and the way your cadence is. Like, a lot of folks say you sound like a brother. Yeah, I did that a lot. A lot of people say that. They be like, he sound black. You know what I'm saying? But you be rockin', though. I grew up with a lot of people. Yeah. And Mexicans too and all like. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, I fought with everybody. I already know. I know. You can tell by the music, man. You know, when last time you came here, I switched that video on you, baby. Yeah, when I brought it in, I had it popping. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I brought the interview into the video. Oh, yeah. I was loving that, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, yeah, nigga, I got it, man. I got it. Yo, this one's gonna go down. I'm going back to that. You know what I'm saying? I ain't been doing that lately. But I like to do that too, man, because I just love the music, man. I love the music, bro. You ain't come in to Pitbull sitting there. I was like, yeah, man, this all going in. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That was a dope song, too, man. Appreciate it. You sent me the new music. I want to listen to a little bit of that too. I'm gonna pull it up and just rock out a little bit. I've been doing that lately. No. No, but going back to when you were growing up. So when did you get your first big break? Or did you get your first big, like your first hot song? Like what was that? A song called Swain. Swain, yeah. What year was that? And how old were you? Man, that was like four years ago. Hey. Okay. With my partner Revenue and Authentic, you know what I'm saying? I had that one. How many views you got on that? Man, I don't even know. Like 30,000 though. Okay. Like they're going on 40,000? Okay. That's dope. Oh. Did you know that was gonna go? Oh. Nah. I knew it was a good song. You're like, I don't know. I knew it was a good song, you know what I'm saying? But that's the first song that really, you know, people started noticing me like locally, you know what I'm saying? I wouldn't say like I ain't the millions of you, but man, that's the one that, yeah, it went hard. Okay. So what was different about that song than any other song? Oh, it's like a taste of song. Okay. You know, with the swine, the purple. Yeah, man. This guy right here, Brown, man, he don't stop, you know, when the music come on, you hear that Money Mines ENT and you know what it is. You be knowing what it is at that point and they could stop playing. Y'all know that's Brown. Brown in the building. Ain't no game. You can't, you can't, you can't deny the man is good at what he do. That's you. This may play the whole thing. Yeah, that's the whole thing, man. What? Yeah. Yeah, that's the whole thing, man. Yeah, that's how Brown do it. So what inspired that song, man? Oh, I was in one of the most, I did all that song like, I did two songs that day when I did that one. Oh yeah? Yeah, I did that song and another song called Man Down. Yeah. I don't know. I just, I had that inspiration. I just feel motivated that I felt like doing it, you know what I'm saying? I just, I wasn't even recorded at the head. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? You been killing it, man. Yo. The boy go in, stop playing. That's how Brown do it. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo, yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. I don't. And I don't know what you're doing man. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yo. Yeah? I Did that before my PO see me to rehab and I think September October. Yeah. Yeah, I told So when you gonna do the video I Got a video on the night. You need to come do the do it. We do one of the cameos in here, man Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a yeah, that's the one for you Yeah, yeah, I got two videos choose the ninth and the 19th or somebody that I got achieved I know for sure on the night on the night. Yeah, what day is that? I don't know which one I'm gonna do first though Another time just waiting on my partner drop his verse. That's all go hard, too. Oh, yeah I killed that other one. Yeah Man, that's I don't I don't know man. I just know what I hear Oh I don't know. I just go on here. I'm saying I don't really be having no specific subject. I just Whatever come out, you know, I'm saying however to be maybe won't come up. You know saying yeah However, you whatever that thing go, huh? Yeah, I think I got it. Yeah. Yeah, I got it now Yeah, that's right Yeah, cuz I got a hard time finding somebody locally that Yeah, it gotta have that it gotta have that drum that that bass line Yeah, cuz man, they use some kind of other But if you tell somebody if you find somebody who make beats and you tell them exactly what you want You don't think they will make you what I have and they come over something and they would I want it You know I'm saying like I got a pun Here come all the beat and I tell them usually hit it on point but I don't know like I Don't know like I rather just Get on YouTube and surf through that. You know I'm saying and then you know I come over whatever if I if I'm feeling the vibe like I'm like, yeah, this is Do you know there's a disadvantage buying YouTube beats compared to going to a producer and just Yeah, cuz if you got your own beat you own the song You know I'm saying like me ain't trippin like The day that that you know I'm saying I'm getting really really big chicks is the day that I you know I'm saying I mean don't get me wrong. I got beats that that I bought you know I'm saying it is Man, I'm used to be going in I just believe but they be going for like I'm not cheap or none I just I'm a businessman. I know how when to spend money and how to spend money right now Not the time for me to be spending two thousand dollars on a beat Yeah, yeah, yeah, I get it. So if I do that on an album twelfth 12 songs on the album You know like you gotta know how to move you don't say right now at least I'm ain't trippin You know when your time card, you know when it's time to get right Yeah, yeah, I know you know when it when the time when the time come or whatever unless I just find somebody that That's good with it. Like I know this little youngster man said beats He made that all gas no breeze, you know So like, you know, I got some more beats in the vault that I got from him is just that I ain't been recording. So you know I'm saying I ain't really just been on it But I'm gonna get back on the door. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, who is that? It's a kid over at Fort Worth sound like Poo Shiesty. Who is that dude? You ain't seen his family kid Sound like Poo Shiesty. I'm not lying And he in Fort Worth and matter of fact, I think he signed he signed a management deal with somebody Yeah, he sound like he's not like Poo Shiesty, but he is spending I don't really know, but he don't sound like it's brown now This year this year this year Yeah, you know I'm saying he flew all the way down and we shot a video to another song that I'm on with him Okay, when he came out, I said man, look get on this song, you know, I had this one done He flew down from connect. How you meet him? Facebook reached out to me. He's like, what's up, man? You gonna hold a little cool. He's not Salvador, I think so he from Central America. He's Video to this not yet y'all gonna do one. Yeah, you're pretty soon. I don't go You know what I'm saying when the time right when he didn't come back down there. You ain't gonna man He can't go nowhere. Yeah Yeah, yeah, technically, I can't you know what I'm saying I give you You got to go on some business. Yeah, baby. Hey, though Yeah, I gotta I gotta ask my P. O and then she gotta ask her supervisor and then she gotta ask the pro-born You know telling one that one that answer Man, I gotta go I hear you can add again, but man, what's the name Cinco Cinco? I hear you, baby Man, I love you you rap bro. Appreciate ever since they I met you. It's like, oh, yeah, that's my guy right there I was a fan. You know, man, I appreciate you I said somebody like nobody out working my guy, man, you know, you work man. You will work. You work horse, man man, the crazy thing is though like You got all these rappers like criticizing them black. Oh, you know, I'm saying I'm real and I don't give a damn about all that I have fun with this year But you could tell you having fun with this shit, it's just a sport to me But you're doing it like it's a lot of people wish they could do what you're doing like they're not consistent and didn't mean I'm a big Visuals guy. So when I see you your whole brand move with visuals You always take that series and that's the part where I've been trying to tell people for years Like you can't put out a project now and I draw four or five, you know what I mean Visual videos too. You got to have visuals. Yeah, that's how you do cuz all An audio ain't gonna get as far as it ain't gonna get as far plus you gotta you got to have that image The video the visuals is what the image, you know, how do you who direct your your videos like when you My partner KV dope video KV. Oh, yeah, that's the one you told him about last time to do the video Yeah, he shows all my videos. You know I'm saying he good man I want to bring him on the show I've been y'all been down for a while. Hey, he probably one trip. I'll tell you somewhere now Yeah, I'm serious. I want to bring him on the show cuz I don't have how many videographers a bunch He went he went with prophecy. You know I'm saying, yeah, yeah, bring him on I tell him I want to bring him telling prophecy was on here. You see if you go you go see have paint You go see prophecy. You go see torn visuals. You go see HD like I do all the video guys. Yeah, it's just something I like, you know, cuz that's popping right now for me Like I know I'm the one that I bring those guys cuz those guys is pretty much as much a part of it as you are I bring the producers on I had KLC. I had who I just had on here Mr. Lee I had from Rappel The producers on here bro, Sergeant J and Sergeant B. I have the I'm bringing the heat I'm bringing the ones that I feel like fit the mode of what I do and and that's what God showed me You know get those guys this behind the scene You know deal with the guys who producing it the guys who making the visuals and then the artist, you know And it's gonna work for you guys show it to me. You know I'm saying I think it works Everybody else be trying to you know, just grab artists, you know that no They don't be like they be trying to get the most popular person. You don't know who the hell gonna go Sometimes you got to catch that one day. You you got to see it in them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely. Most definitely most Like they got in them, but they slept have you have you had anybody that you mentored or anybody that look up to you Be like, yeah, man, I want to rap. I mean, I Haven't just been told it. You know, I might hang around. Yeah, I'm pretty sure I motivate people Yeah, I was just saying you know, I probably not just in music You know saying just all around the youngster that's trying to rap a song that that boy You know me bring him around cuz you don't you you compare some to him and then you that's how you you know develop you But it's hard because I know you got crazy work ethic. You're To and then like You know, like it's hard to trust a man that tool, you know Like not only that like I don't know. It's just like It's like, you know, I got a regular level, right? Yeah, you know, and I have artists that read with me You know, I'm saying and they be putting it where to like, you know, shout out to young book Yeah, you know Yeah, but see they ain't got to do that cuz they already motivated, you know, I'm saying they love this they love the day This is what they love. This is they pass, you know, I'm saying You know, I'm saying sometimes what's up, let's do a song, but you know, I'm saying how many y'all is it? It's me. I said King and young book, you know, I'm saying okay and my partner Tom But you know, he in the fish right now. Okay. Yeah You know, he's a CEO too, you know, he always gonna be right that dude, man I'll write that nigga I'll be writing everybody man. My boy got 30 years You know, I'll write that nigga man Cuz that's the way I look at it like like he might not be on the show, but just that connection say man Brown was on here. You know, I'm saying No, I'll be right. I'll write him. I'm telling you But they don't do the whole 30 do they no most of it 80% something like that. How long you been gone? Oh Man, you're going on like five years. What's the name again? Tom? Tom Check it man. Tom man. Check it man. We we we hollering free tone out of anything Tom till he home Now Man, he like one year one year younger than you one year I looked up to him Messing up he was the one like, you know say yeah, man He do it to this thing, you know I'm saying he's the one I got in my corner say bro you bushin I'll call you get on. You're like, you know, he hit me. You know he'll come contact me You know I'm saying you can't visit him though Man, well, you know, they got they had the virus and all that stuff going on But I've been telling them put me on the list, you know, I'm saying, you know, me him let me him We like brothers, man. Yeah in Siegelville. Nah, he in Pollock, Louisiana. Okay, you'll go down a medium Quit you know Right him you got text me as that info Yeah, I do it like that cuz I know I come from a place where I know I understand, you know And that's why cuz I mean that's the most important thing is is it to stay grounded you got some you got a right back right now Yeah, I know it, but you you didn't give me a letter. They Okay, it took a long time. Yeah, but They don't get there Because I think it was one Asked me about What sizes and I didn't tell you that a young lady called me and I told her call me back the guy who used to buy his wife's stuff From a story got life. He wanted us to help his son get something to worry You want to get something for his son to work? I think he had a son. What was it? Yeah I don't remember the son's name. I know what the dad's Vaughn. Yeah, Vaughn Vaughn from Terrell. Yeah, Vaughn You remember that guy Shot somebody and killed him. He killed him. He ran to the front of departments and shot the car He was from Louisiana, right? Him and his wife is like he was him his wife and his They were standing Kennedy Heights. That's right. You know, I was there that day. I had just left to the store, too Yeah, cuz I was staying out there with my ex-girlfriend I think it was somebody's why something about a wife. Yeah, he said something about or say something to Yeah, something like nigga love his wife. Yeah, I mean you that he used to Really from what I heard though, though Now we don't know like they they said some to him. Yeah, but he would have got away He went to the front and dumped on him. Yeah The door was in the car and he just came out Yeah, but dad got into it and I heard that he had ran back to you went inside his house Or he's something he went inside his house or in the car or something You know I'm saying and you know Man Yes, sir, no, sir, how you doing very mannerable very manner. Yeah, you're required When I was at the apartment, then he made him click it was something about his old lady I'm telling you man. Some people bro. Like they'd be quiet, but you know once you get the messing with them That's that's I had a cousin like that. I P Kevin. Yeah Yeah, he's be me every you quiet, but you him on to you want that smoke? Yeah, man I'm just you just gotta leave him alone But what people don't realize you don't sometimes you don't know what might have happened even like an hour before that That really was already bugging him and then you go say something else to him And it made him escalate this much to something even that could be something simple Yeah, something that could have been avoided to Yeah, so Brian what um, what what he got life? All right. Yeah life a long time like they know and well, and that's I think that that's aggravated life So that's 50 to 85% to Gun involved what is 50 to 85 on life? Half a life. Yeah And you say it in Texas, how does that one takes it 85% So if you got a okay Life without parole. I don't even know but I know like you got to do like 30 years on you know I'm saying but then you got Like without parole. You know I'm saying yeah I thought when you I thought we just get life you just gonna die in there. No, no, no, I think you do like Like you get life and you do six years. No, yes, it is a long time ago No, I know it but you would do not a lot of time I think I think you do 30 on a like cuz I know somebody that had life and he did 30 Yeah, but you know, he's on parole for the rest of his life. That's what Gary was to yeah, yeah, same thing And he had gotten life. I don't know if he got life. I know he got a lot of time He he because he went in multiple times. Yeah, but he in here when you got life like that You on parole for the rest of your life. Yeah, you're on parole to Taste his own until you did, you know Yeah, so what do you think about the music and where it's at right now? Like what do you mean? Meaning how do you feel like the sound is in I mean, it's always changed. You know I'm saying oh Some people like it some people don't but whether they do or don't like you got a Custom tool because that's it's always a new way. How do you Hispanic? You know Hispanic support is how do they how do they differ in your music? Do you think it's more Hispanic said follow you or more black? Cubans or nah It's a lot of Mexican but my crowd is mixed cuz I got I got black people that fall with me You know I'm saying and you think that's what make your impact a little stronger man I don't even know and then I got a lot of silent fans. You know saying like They you know I'm saying like I don't know they be coming about the Woolworths. You know saying so like You know, you just got quiet people that they like your shit, but they ain't really all on you. You know saying You know cuz you can see them in your story The group is and you know saying then you got the die hard fans and you know I'm saying like different categories Yeah, you know I'm saying someone just like bigger fans You know I'm saying who would you like to work with it? If you had anybody in the world, you could pick to work with oh, I mean anybody male if you guys the limit Like new rappers or anybody Probably like Kevin Gates, you know, you can make that happen though. Yeah He just did a song with C. Copee one of my partner. Yeah, he was Yeah, he knew or like, oh, you know Gucci man got some hard artists Big score the new Not big scum to my big walk dog. Yeah Big walk dog He just picked him on like a month ago Big walk dog, that's a hell of a nigga right and I seen both of them Y'all didn't hear about him before Everybody from Mississippi. I'm pretty sure he had a buzz. You know, we up here. We ain't see him But big walk dog shout out big walk dog. Come on boss talk 101 man We hear a tap in when you get to Dallas, Texas Dallas, Texas big walk dog. How is your boy? Yeah, man? No, I love to do an interview with you Yeah, I mean, I just like the fact he big nigga. I'll listen to that. It's I'll listen to this music Hey, you know how to pick them home, you know Push ice in with the jet so he had Oh, you know, I don't know push ice to get now, man, but you know, you know what's not getting up I Think Matter of fact, I'm for the post something on it man, that boy home man at home already on Yeah, what do you do like three years? Yeah, cuz he waited this time to he could appeal it and that will come off of it They they send it man, they probably just wanted to teach him a lesson. Oh That's what we do to our people now. We teach them lessons now They don't damn good way to teach them a lesson So let me ask you man brown. So I don't know top three artists of all time, man. They're alive And then we all go. Yeah, let me see if it's changed Kevin Gates Oh Money bag, yo money bag, yo, I'm my my top Young Dove That's my nigga right there, but he got another one. What's that little nigga be with him his cousin? Oh That's my right He got that artist big mutual great. He go hard through Like man keep like a beast nigga, you know, I looked at then you gotta look him up man. I think his name is uh big folks Who big folks are Yeah, this nigga I've been watching him man My brother put me on him and the nigga go hard man I got a shot him out because I ran it I called Matter of fact, we called him. He said he love the show. He might come on here Uh when he come he down there out of uh I want to say Mississippi uh big big Big folks man, that's him man. You talking about the one that be with push push ice thing. I don't know that's him right there Oh, no, I don't know that's a new nigga man, but the nigga guy he getting them views too. I don't know, you know They ain't 2.7 million Yeah, you never heard of that 1.2 million. That's why I say he gonna he gonna he from he from I think he's from Memphis. Yeah Yeah, I've been trying to get him on the show. They've been getting a lot of talent from I think he's from Memphis. I think he's from Memphis and I've been checking out big folks shout out big folks, man You supposed to be uh, we talked to you today and we talked to you a couple days ago Big folk will be coming on boss talk 101. He ain't he ain't really been, you know doing no interviews with nobody But we got him over here. We gonna get it. We gonna get him. Yeah. Yeah, but hey, man, so when you when you think about uh, uh, uh, you know the music and and and your voice and Everything, you know, everything that's been going on with you, man. Do you feel like okay? After COVID is gone now the show's starting back. How are you going to progress into what's going on now versus what's been going on? You know, this is a big change, man Booking shows trying to figure it out again music wise. I mean, I'm just get back to work, you know, I left off, you know time like uh I'm gonna just go with the flow. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, so I mean rocking out In the clubs, you know, why you don't I don't know if you do Do you ever have you ever performed like the v lives and all that? Yeah, I've been a v-live One of the promoters wanted to hear what you come back here what I was always performing like on a Sunday But uh, one of the promoters hit me up. He liked the song me unique. Uh, the kitty cat song He wanted me to come perform on a Saturday. That's when it's popping. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah But you know what I'm saying do do to my boys. Yeah, I can't be on You know what I'm saying? I'm gonna look crazy See that song, you know, I'm glad you're trying to make sure you sound when it gets right, you know I'm gonna get back, you know, I'm gonna get in there because you know, I like doing that stuff in the Anyways, you know what I'm saying? Will you do things like out of state? You know, you will go Because that's what I do. I'll make a whole run dude. I'll go make a run for it. Yeah Atlanta, especially have you been down Atlanta? Hey, it's hard because you you know, you're real you're a real stump down you out here You on paper you can't really just move like that But the music on move on his own he been doing that on you see, you know, if it can't do I'm gonna make it work You know, I'm saying I'll tell my p.m. Say look, this is what it is. This is my job I ain't ever told you that but this is my job. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I get it, man I get it. I'm gonna tell you right now, man. When you do that video, I'm gonna be mad You don't come through and do it. No, I'm gonna come through because I got two I just don't know which one I'm gonna shoot but let me know you don't say we open door to you You come in here. I mean, you know, you can do the stove on the ship move Yeah, if anything, I'll bring some cars line them up and then you know get the story. You know what I'm saying You got them. You're gonna line them up. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like that thug in window that that uh, uh All gas no brakes, you know, I don't Know You got all the dogs out. Yeah, they got like that hardcore man to hispanic You're gonna be staying Yeah, I'm gonna stay back. I don't know the damn dog. All you're talking about that dog. That's my panacist goes out Is that that bully? Yeah, that bully go hard, man. That's what I'm saying, man. Y'all yeah, that's what that's the cold lick That's the one I get that scene every dig is sick of seeing that scene If I was your manager or directing the video every scene is all his manning with a couple of blacks out there Are you We wish I don't want to grow up on frist park right there. I figured that I figured I said them boys in the grove I could tell and they went with the bug me like right down the street. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So man, hey, man, you know, uh, if if it's anything I I say if you would go back and talk to the younger you man before the parole before the jail, what would you tell yourself? Man, you know, don't do drugs because I was doing drugs growing up. I would have been way more You know back then, you know, I wasn't responsible. How do you know when I wasn't responsible? I ain't had no responsibilities. So like I got a jail and I used to think it was cool to go to jail. You know what I'm saying? Like You know, she fuck this goat. You know what I'm saying type shit But now like I got so much to lose. I have to think before I react. Wow You know what I'm saying? Is it worth it? Is it worth it? You know what I'm saying? Because everything I worked for, you know, not just the music just My whole little whatever I got going, you know what I'm saying? I like just to lose it over one stupid choice Like I was in a situation man and uh You know like My my whole world was finished. You know what I'm saying? But thanks to God, you know what I'm saying? Everything played out smooth so far. You know what I'm saying? But it's you know what I'm saying? I'm good. You know what I'm saying? Just one one one wrong move could just like fuck the whole game Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah, yeah for real, man. Like in chess, man You make the wrong move and cost you the game the whole game The whole game and once you mess up you can't undo that you can't undo it How many how many units did you hit when you was locked up? Man, I don't know uh I went to Gurney, but those are just transfer. I went to gurney then the bus of coal Then from there I went to the bird. Did you know you was gonna be rapping when you came on? Yeah. Yeah, I was new Uh I knew I was gonna do it. I just knew I was gonna do Then I went to from the gun from the bird unit. I went to the wall then straight to uh, east ham Then I was there for about like a year and then from there I got chained and went back to the walls Five years I was hold on one hour I went back to the walls and then I went to a pre-release. Yo, did you get tired of moving around? Man, I hate that stuff, man. I hate I hate moving. I hate packing. I hate that song It's like once I'm comfortable uncomfortable, but Man, I hated that stuff, man. They had a lot of a lot of gangs in there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah It's good work everywhere. Yeah, you you like how would you Because the hispanic they hang together in that thing But it's not like the feds because in tdc. You like you got the stg tg games. Yeah, uh, or whatever they call Oh, they in lockdown. Okay, but then you got all these other games still out here. Like, you know what I'm saying? Oh But like in in the fees, they're all loose Do you remember anybody that In and when you was in prison the young boy that you helped like pretty much told him, you know I'm saying man. You got to you got to be strong down here. He was young Man, you see what I'm saying young hispanic got young black not really because everybody knuckleheads down there You know what I'm saying? They don't listen everybody knuckle like I hear like so I might stand out because of my tattoos or something there, man I blend in the best people All over the here like why'd you do that for you know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? So you like Ain't nobody to talk to like That people down there, man, you you can't tell them nothing like you know, they I don't know just like how you say about yourself when you were younger. You were stubborn nobody couldn't really tell you anything Yeah, it's like a whole nother world in there. You know what I'm saying? It's like Then you got a lot of youngsters in there. You know what I'm saying? Like, um, The best it's good. Like if you could cool somebody say I was a young someone I was in there You know what I'm saying? So what I look like telling somebody is that you it was them telling me, you know what I'm saying? So like but if I was I probably like fuck cool somebody like I'm gonna tell everybody like if I'm forward I'm forward you know what I'm saying go go crash then you know what I'm saying a lot of rides. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You see how I'm gonna get killed. Oh, I ain't been around homie getting killed, but I ain't been an actual ride But there's always rides like it'll pop up in the hallway in the kitchen. They'll lock it all down Yeah, they might be on the other side of the unit, but in my actual like line now, we ain't we ain't had no rides You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah any other people that was locked up then came home and kind of reached out to you say, man I'm home. Oh, yeah. Yeah, man. They found me on faith, but damn, bro I ain't know you rep cuz I ain't really tell everybody there I kind of like You know what I'm saying that like that, you know, I had another homeboy me who he just hit me Oh, he from Austin. You know what I'm saying? He had found me. I had another homeboy from Bay City You know, I'm saying he found me on facebook through through me promote my shit to my stuff through them And that's so crazy though because a lot of um People that we have in be interviewing when they've been in prison everybody's always like that's where they be rapping and hitting the table You say you hadn't been doing it That man. I ain't do no rap like I did on the id unit It's just when I was on the transfer unit when nobody rapping. So like I'll probably come over somebody something in my head, but I want I but when I went to the id unit It'd be like the cribs in the blood and some some Mexican rapping and or like there was a crib dude He was like, come on, bro. Because he heard me freestyle. You know what I'm saying? And like really I wanted him freestyle. I just hit something that I wrote and I hey, you know what I'm saying? He liked that he would always try to get me down there, but other than that, like I ain't really You know what I'm saying? Yeah, I really just stayed to myself. But when you came home, it was on Yeah, yeah, yeah But see what it was when I got out. I was rusty, man. I know I thought I was gonna hard man. Listen that was That's the way it be though that's I'm gonna be real, you know, I'm saying, you know, I came out with what I did You know I'm saying like it's like if you was good at playing basketball and you didn't play for five years You know, because that's how long I was gone. Then you get out. You're gonna be rusty But then you're gonna get your groove back. You know, it's all like, you know You like I gotta shake back. I see what's going on. Yeah. Yeah, I should beg, you know what I'm saying? like I think I done been at my best lately because like My delivery is way better. I know my personal opinion I feel you and I like I said you break culture barriers. You you gotta sound this unique in itself for you Man, I had somebody tell me bro. You sound like money bag. Yo No, you sound like yourself, bro, you be going on You got your own unique sound man. I can't wait man. I can't wait till you come through and do that video, baby It's going down, man. It's my brother. Love you too, man. My oldest brother. Yeah, he watched you ever since I turned him on He asked me where you at like where because he watched YouTube all the time He's just talking to pull up. No, no, he will maybe sometimes he don't get out I'm gonna shoot a video again. So I'm gonna shoot a video over here. So yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll tell him He's supposed to come over for uh, what for the fourth of july So he might yeah, yeah, he might he might I'm asking. It's my birthday on Saturday. So what you gonna do? I'm trying to hit the late Man, I've been trying to I was trying to rent some jiscies. I still ain't found them man. I think out of them out there at Uh, uh rock wall. No, yeah They're all booked. I'm trying to get like two or three if they only got one. I don't want one I really just not get them. You know what I'm saying about jupu Do they have my because I don't you know, my people from three. I'm trying to have my mom and him Exactly If not, you know, I'm just Throw some meat on the grid and get some little air to Man, I ain't gonna do all that man If I get too drunk, I take too long to recover man. I know it man Well, hey, man, thank you for coming on the show man. We love you man brown We appreciate you man every time you come through and bless the platform man And you know you be on on podcast we be having your google podcast and we have you everywhere You're on apples spotify On the podcast and says may hear you like that's why we bought all this to make sure you come through clear So the people can understand. Yeah, that's the first thing I know when I come especially that one Baby, man, I let your boy man. It's a unique hustle. There's been another great segment of boss talk 101