 We have a bit more work to do. If someone's ignorant and unreachable, please don't waste your time with them. If they just don't want to have the conversation, they just want to argue. Just say, look, um, yeah, send them to me. The slaughterhouse get a bolt gun in their head and we chop them up into pieces. So cruelty is a part of it. But we're more about eliminating animal use when we don't need to. You don't think it's necessary? But we've got alternatives. Free range. This is, this free range industry is coming up in this video. Then that means nothing for animals. Free range is just something they tell you. They come out of a local slaughterhouse because that's where they send them. And a lot of them die on the way to the slaughterhouse. So no matter how nice the farmer treats them, the slaughterhouse workers put them in an electrical bath, which electrocutes them, they slit their throat. That's why we don't eat them. Because if we don't want to know about it, it's too hard to know about. I wouldn't want that in my body. He was, he was really defensive, wasn't he? Haven't seen this before? Have you seen this before? Have you seen this before for PETA videos? It's not PETA. This is the UK. It's just some UK activists got this out of the, um, farms here and the slaughterhouses here. Pretty, pretty, pretty standard. Where are you from? Canada. Canada. Canada is not much better. It's worse for beef and stuff. But where are you guys? Just, uh, this is anonymous for the voiceless. It's a activist group. He's done by the masks, right? The voiceless are the animals. They technically do have a voice, but they can't, you know, express themselves in our language. So they, we speak out for them. And we're just asking people to choose options that don't involve using animals. So are you vegan? Yeah, we're vegan. Yeah. That's the only way you can avoid animal abuse. Would you keep me up at home? Hit me with it? No, no, hit me with it. No, no, we're not going to have an argument. Discussion is what we asked for. I suppose. Animals are products at the end of the day. They don't care about their welfare. Oh Jesus, that's a bad one. We're not actually here for their treatment. We're showing you how they're treated, but it's more about their use. You understand? Like we can't use animals. It's, it's, it's all use is abuse because we're, we're technically using them for our gain, our personal pleasure. Well, absolutely. But on the same note, like cows wouldn't even exist. If humans hadn't, you know, domesticated. Like the only reason cows exist are, have been bred for that purpose. Is that just a fire putting them in a slaughterhouse? No, but I'm at the same time, like, they're going to have some kind of love. You don't eat animals. Certain kinds of animal, I guess you guys would say that that's still whatever. Daring eggs we established is the meat industry. And, and that's, yeah, and that's what your belief is. It's not a belief. That's the, that's the industry. The dairy industry, the cows all get killed and sent to the meat industry. The babies get killed, sent to the veal industry. We're saving the pigs then, I suppose. I'm saving the pigs. That's what we get no word for. Yeah, well, I mean, we're just showing how easy it is to be vegan. There's no reason to eat animal products. There's alternatives. We've got almond milk, soy milk, rice milk, oat milk. Milk is fine, but cheese is... We've got vegan cheese, soy cheese, cashew cheese, almond cheese. Soy cheese. It's really horrible. So, you haven't, how many did you try? Yes, but... Well, we're saving a mother of a life of slavery and a baby... Absolutely. If it happened on a mass scale, but I think along with the animal cruelty portion of this, you guys should as well address the environmental... We do. ...effects. Can I have one of these? Animals, environment and health. But it's not about animal cruelty. It's about animal use. They're slaves at the end of the day. Mm-hmm. We use them for our pleasure and we don't need to, it's unnecessary. Yeah. The environment, 91% of Amazon deforestation is to grow soybeans to feed to cattle. Mm-hmm. Okay. This... And palm oil. No, 91% is animal agriculture. No, I might do some more... Research. ...dairy and... Check out the dairy industry, especially and the eggs and fish. I think even... I mean, of course, being completely vegan would be best, but I think as a teacher especially, even just the gradual phasing out of me, telling kids, try and eat meat instead of every day, eat it once a week with your family, because I just think so many people, it's unrealistic because that's what they do. But I'm not just gonna tell them to go vegan. I think it should be half, like grandfathered in, you know what I mean? Yeah, but any other injustice would be saying not to contribute to a baseline. Well, it's like, right, so isn't it? It's like it's been grandfathered in slowly. But yeah, but you would never tell someone to stop abusing gays gradually. You'd say, stop abusing them. I wouldn't, but as an international girl, that's what happens. I'd never tell someone to not be racist one day a week. So any other form of injustice, like this is just animals that are the victims here. Do you know, it's injustice on a massive scale. And we're saying don't contribute to it. Because if I were to tell you, just contribute to it three days a week. Just kill animals three days a week. What type of advocate for them would I be? That would... But surely any gain is a good gain. Yeah, but I would never tell someone to do that. To do it three times a week. Or it's just saying, if you can't do it, at least do this. If you're in a cage and I said, okay, only beat her three times a week. What if I was an abolitionist and I said, set her free, don't beat her at all. You know? And then because of that, he would be like, or maybe it may be... I would say that's not an option. Any gain is a good gain is what all I'm saying. But to advocate for... I can't tell 25 children and their families, like don't even... No, but you can do something in your life. Absolutely. So you could make the change. I think bone modeling, not eating meat. Whether dairy... That's just the next step for me, but that takes time today. Dairy eggs and fish. Yeah, my God. Fish feel pain. But I think cheese would be worse. Do you know why cheese is so addictive? It's good. It contains something called queso morphine. Queso morphine helps the cow go back to the mother, return to the mother, it's addictive. Okay, it sedates the calf after she feeds on her mother. And in cheese, the water's been removed, so the queso morphine is concentrated. So cheese is physically addictive. I didn't know that. It's kind of gross. So check it out. Queso morphine, that's why it's addictive to cheese. That's why... Most vegetarians won't go vegan because of cheese. Cheese is just basically a congealed glob of fat and pus. I got it in step 1 too there. You know there's pus in... Queso vegetarian as well, yes. You know the pus that's in cheese, yeah? Well, some cheese is the cow's stomach thing, but I don't know the pus thing. I think that sounds gross. Yeah, well, because they're getting sucked on these machines the whole lot. Yeah. They get infections called mastitis, and the machines don't know what to suck out, sucking out the milk, sucking out the pus, sucking out the blood, okay? And what they do is they pasteurize the milk, so they cook the pus. The pus is actually called somatic cells. Okay, and there's a limit to somatic cells you can have in your milk. In Australia it's 400,000 per per cc, 400,000 units per cc, so that's a lot of pus. And in cheese it's just concentrated. Pus, fat, and, yeah, hormones. And it's not bad for you, supposedly, though. Cheese isn't bad for you? Shut that down. No, no, cheese is bad for you, but the pus, I'm just surprised that's allowed. Oh, it's sanitary pus. Is there such a thing? There's fecal matter in there too, because obviously... Well, a little bit of poo is good for anyone. Yeah, no shit. But it's disgusting when you break it down because... It is pretty gross, yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. And it's unhealthy, very unhealthy. Saturated fat, cholesterol. This is the worst for you, honestly. You know, plant-based diets, by default, are healthier. You're eating all these plants. Absolutely, it's more difficult to get in your protein and everything. See that guy over there? It's a life adjustment, that's all I'm saying. Hensherbable, vegan bodybuilder. Do you reckon he has trouble getting his protein in? He eats nothing but whole plant foods. Definitely, I guess that's it. This is a good half-protein. Do you know how much protein you need? No idea. I think I don't get enough. I force myself to eat fish twice a week because I feel like we don't get it as much. You can eat plant foods. Any plant foods contain all non-essential amino acids. You need 50 grams of protein per day. If you eat enough calories, there's no way you can be protein deficient. It's just impossible if you're eating enough food. The only way is if you starve. Well, that's obviously not happening. What's your view on shrimp, lobsters, shellfish, clams, oysters? They're like bottom feeders. They collect all the dirt from the oceans. I don't think it's okay to eat those fish. Namely, if you care about the bigger fish, they're trawling the oceans. They're destroying the ocean and where do you draw the line? I think all fish have a level of sentience. They all feel pain and they want to... They have some interest in living and it's not our job. It's not our right to take that from them. And clams and mussels and things. Clams and mussels. You know, plants respond to sunlight and music. Where do you draw the line between a plant's response to light and a shrimp's response to... Plants don't have nerve endings. They don't have, I think, clams and mussels. But if we're going to get into the clam and mussel argument, okay. We still got the dairy and eggs and the fish. Yes, yes, yes. Okay, so those are gone. I'm exploring all the options. Okay, I think with oysters, they've got the beginning of nerve, ganglion. The oceans are filthy place, full of mercury, things like that. The most fish contains high level of mercury. I don't know how they fish these things out the bottom of the ground. They're trawling out the bottom of the ocean, destroying the oceans. These fishing trawlers are, you know, sucking everything out. We're sucking the life out of the planet. And there's no real necessary reason to eat oysters other than your own pleasure. So we just ask people to be altruistic and think, well, if it's not necessary, if I don't need it for my health, why am I eating it? Yeah. It's a living thing. Plants are living, but they're not sentient. They're intelligent. They respond to stimuli just like an iPhone does. They're not sentient. No, sentience is self-awareness. Sentience is, you can feel it. But how do we actually know that? In school, they take, well, because you know it doesn't have a brain. You know a plant doesn't have a brain. That's true. Yeah. They're responding to like music and then surely speaks to some. So does your phone. You talked into your phone lately. They say, hey Siri. Mine is actually. So your phone is what it's responding to is it's reacting to a stimuli in the environment. In the same way, your phone isn't sentient, but it's intelligent. Same with plants. Plants can reach for sunlight, but you chop them in half. They don't feel it. Animals, you run at an animal with an eye. They try to avoid the pain. Yes, very clearly. You stick a hook through a fish's mouth. You suffocate them. They suffer. So it's like being healthy. Have you looked for plant-based alternatives in your supermarket yet? Well, I eat corn. Do you eat corn? Corn. Corn. Yeah. Well, there is a vegetarian corn, but they've brought out a vegan line now. So they brought out vegan. It's not what's got milk in it. Some of them have egg in it, but they're facing them out and they're bringing out vegan versions because more people want the vegan version now. That we're creating demand. So the vegan corn is not vegan at all. Well, not all corn. So you just read the front, you should say vegan. Just read the back. I mean there's a whole tofu. There's stuff, but I just, it's relearning how to cook everything. It's learning new recipes. Whole foods, beans, rice, lentils, peas, pasta, broccoli, those things are healthy. Yeah. You know, they're healthy and they don't, they don't have all this fat and, oh, saturated fat, animal protein. That's strong. Quarter's old. Adrenaline, you know, when animals suffering and they die, quarter's old on adrenaline. We take that in. We, they're the same hormones that we produce when we suffer. We're eating that suffering. That's horrible to think about. This is the worst song ever that you could put on as well. I'm sorry. This is your, this is your moment. Maybe, maybe. Okay. So this is where the audio cut out and I really didn't realise how much of a powerful interaction this was with this school teacher. We touched on many subjects, including the dairy industry and how horrific it is. And we had some very powerful music playing in the background, which really appealed to her emotion. And I did not expect what happened next to happen. Oh, wow. I'm going to try. I'm not going to make any promises, but I will try. Vegan on the go. Can I have a look at this? What? Wow. She just went and bought this. Thank you. It was really nice. So give us a hug. Give us a hug. Come on. Oh, I'm hugging. All right. Thank you. Thanks, thanks for giving it a chance. Give it a chance. Thank you. See ya.