 What is the long-term solution for urban trees, urban green spaces? And it's just like other facilities or infrastructures in a city, it's maintenance. You can plant trees, but if you don't take care of them or they get cut down all the time, then how are you going to have a green space that will last long and save and friendly to the users or to the public? And so we got together, forestry officials, forestry experts, the botanists, landscape architects and decided to start the Aboard Culture Association to maintain public green spaces and big trees. You need serious training, professional and high quality equipment and also highly skilled personnel. People living in the city are quite afraid of trees, especially large ones. Or when there's a storm or very strong winds. So they think that the only way to protect themselves and their properties from the trees, from the damage caused by a tree, is to cut the whole tree down. And so we need to have very good argument and solution to present to these people. You need to have proper diagnosis. Trees are also like, they're like people. Each individual tree needs individualized treatment. Every single woman can do her job. Even if you think that you're a woman who may not be able to do her job as a man, but in fact, what we've been through in this experience, I feel that women and men are not different at all. Women don't have the same responsibility as men in their work.