 Welcome to Dear to Dream. This is Debbie Dashenker here with you live and also on Replay. Today, my guest featured a little bit later is Rob Gauthier. And I like saying it that way, even though he pronounces it different, but I think it's this beautiful French, it must be a derivative of French name. Rob, I'm so grateful as here because he's a professional channel for Pleiadian, E.T. and archangelic consciousness. He's channeled thousands of E.T. races for individuals all over the world. This show, Dear to Dream, won the COVR Award for Best Radio and Podcast Show. WELP Magazine named it one of the top 20 best podcasts to listen to this year. It's a high-ranking self-improvement podcast on Apple Podcasts nominated for two People's Choice Podcast Awards and for a Webby Award. This show is sponsored by Dr. Dean Heer and Access Consciousness. If you want to become a facilitator or go to one of their classes, go to accessconsciousness.com. The show is going to be a little different today because after we speak for a little bit, Rob will be channeling. And he needs some time to open himself up to the energy and get aligned with that. So I'll be telling you at that time a little bit about what I've got upcoming in my life and as a service and offer to you. So we're going to get going here and bring him on. Again, my guest is Rob Gauthier, one of the most respected transchannelers in the world. For more than a decade, he's helped thousands of individuals receive clarity on their life path and mission through his classes, coaching and readings. Rob primarily works with three main guides, Aradith, Trebor Yitne, and Metatron. And he also channels hundreds of ET consciousnesses. Rob is an in-demand speaker and teacher. He's been featured on Gaia TV in many documentaries, internet shows, interviews, and books for his unique channeling abilities. And to learn more, you want to go to a link tree, which is slash E dot T dot whisper ET whisper with dots in between. And with that, I welcome Rob to the Dare to Dream show. It's so great to have you. Oh, thank you so much for having me on, Debbie. I really appreciate it. It's going to be a great one tonight. And I always appreciate hearing your voice and seeing your face. And I'm glad I could be here today with you too. Okay, so let's get the name straightened out. I love the way I pronounce it because it has this very sort of romantic feel to it. It is French and derivative, right? That is correct. My family, my dad was a family tree guy. So 1490s, they moved to Canada and then moved down here where I live now, Michigan, and kind of centralized around Michigan. I know a lot of gothiers or gothies or however it's pronounced for most people in Louisiana too, but yeah, it's not very common in America, but in France it's pretty common name. Yeah, I love it. And that's a pretty like wild bio over 300 ET consciousness. Can I ask you how old these beings are? And are they your star seed family? How do they know to connect with you? Yeah, seed now, these beings at this point, I think it's over 1000. Honestly, the 300 was a guesstimate a while ago, probably about a year or so ago. But it's probably over 1000 at this point and it's not that I found them or they found me. My guide, Treb, and my other guide, Ardiff, those two beings are the ones who kind of helped me connect to those beings. I channel Treb and I channel Ardiff and Metatron and the Neathall Collective and those are the four I can connect to just by thinking about it, feeling into it, you know, connecting to their specific vibration with the techniques that I use that are individual to each of them. And then Ardiff and Treb are the ones who really get connecting outward for me. So it's almost in a sense I'm channeling them and then they're bringing these beings to me. And the reason why it's been so many is because, you know, most of my channeling I've done in my life has been for personal sessions, private engagements from people who purchase sessions so they come to me. And they say, you know, hey, I want to know about one aspect of my consciousness or hey, I keep dreaming about one being over and over or hey, I'm getting a name but I can't really pull in more. And then Treb and Ardiff are like, yeah, that's this being that you're talking about. And then they bring them into the conversation. So I say I channel them because I do facilitate that energy and I do connect with those beings directly and they're speaking through me which is not the same form of communication that Treb or Ardiff would do. I have my own guides, you can hear all four of them and know exactly who's speaking because their voice presents differently their energy, and all of these other beings have similar energies to that they're they're speaking with their own word choices with their own dialect with their own vocal expression and vibration translation through my body. And I know that's kind of a funny thing itself but that that all occurs so it's very distinct to tell the difference between one and the other. And through people's own curiosity and their desire to find their own energy and guides is that's how I've ended up channeling so many beings at this at this time now I've been doing it since 2010 so it's been been a few years now. But first of all, the sound of that the fact that somebody can come to you and say, I'm having this experience or this curiosity I'd like to connect with or I'd like to know who this is, and that you have the ability to tap in as a trans channel to whatever that energy and give it a voice for client. I don't think I've ever heard of that before, and how satisfying for somebody who comes to you and feels actually shut out of completing that conversation to have you to be the conduit. My Bravo. Yeah, it is a beautiful tool to use and, you know, most people who find that end up feeling fulfilled. And it's something that gives a lot of people a lot of healing. For me, it's the same principle, because I trans channel I don't know what the conversation is unless someone, you know, says hey this is what we talked about or hey, you know, please use my session to put on your YouTube to show other people. So I don't even know some people don't record their session so even if they ask me hey what did this mean in the session I wouldn't be able to even reference it so that is one thing it's profound to see when I see the responses of the people around me with the channeling that I do. That's almost as powerful of an indicator of what the capacity of channeling is and the tool of channeling itself. What kind of uses it has by seeing their reactions with the conversation I'm not even a part of. I do I love the fact that I'm able to do that and I do feel blessed to be able to help people with those things. You know, normally they can't and you know as far as it goes with the channeling and me channeling my guides and my guides helping me to connect. I don't have other people doing it but I don't think it's as common as it used to be I think that was a older model of consciousness from probably more direct mediumship like it's channeling and that's what I call it but a lot of people in Catholicism churches and spiritualist churches they would call it like a metaphysical medium or direct medium and that's kind of how they process their energy a long time ago through the church so it's just becoming less and less common each year and I see a lot more of conscious channeling to now. You know, trans channeling was a old norm and now more conscious channels come in. But for me I know that I would have never been able to channel. If I didn't do it the way I do with the trans channeling my mind my mental body is so heavy and so curious and I want to be a part of the conversation I don't think I could have been able to channel if it wasn't in such a drastic disconnect from me from the conversation. Interesting what is that process. So when you say okay and like on this show today when you say okay I'm ready to channel. What occurs for you what are the levels what's the experience. The first thing I do is I neutralize and that's what I do off camera. And that's just me saying horribly to music that I love and that gets me to relax and it gets that my energy to a place of neutrality. So how neutral is hard for for us as humans but I get as as close as I can to that and with that energy helps their consciousness come through in a more clear way for me. And then once I'm done with that and I come back. I have a lot of different techniques the first technique I do is chakra visualization while I'm doing a deep breathing. And basically it's clearing out the root chakra and grounding me to the earth and then bringing earth energy into my body. And by the time that's done. I start oming and that gets all the chakras vibrating so all I'm grounded then I start visualizing the whole chakra system. From the root, all the way up singular and then all of them as one, and then the owning you here is me calibrating those chakras so sometimes if I'm having a good day and I'm feeling good. I'll be you know the heart chakras doing well and my first home or so my whole chest and throat will be vibrating really heavy. And so it's easy right but some days I'm not and some days I'm disconnected or had a bad day or heard bad news or whatever. And my chakras take a lot more specific attention. So when I'm oming what I'm doing you'll hear the owns go up and down sometimes, or shift pitch or shift, like the staccato inside of the oming, or you'll hear a whole complete different. And what I'm doing is I'm intuiting the process of my chakra vibration so let's say my, my throat chakras having a rough day, then I'm doing oh and shifting it up and down and doing different, you know, specific vibrations with it in order to get my throat chakra to catch up to the rest of them. I need all of them to be vibrating as heavily as I can, in order for me to do the last part of the technique so after I've owned for a few minutes, and all of my energy is, is, you know, normal and ready. That's when I push up the energy, you know, one by one from root all the way up to the third eye. And when it's in the third eye assets and then I place my intention to channel and boom, I'm out. Trevor Artiff are in those the ones I channel mostly. What's happening with me, my consciousness is when I'm going out, I'm going to visit Trev. So when I'm channeling Trev or Artiff or 1000 different entities, no matter what you're getting the experience of I'm just hanging out with them. Me and him are just sitting in astral projected state. And the reason that that happens is he's the closest guy to me he's the guy who I first met. He's the one who taught me to channel and he's the one who taught me how to do a lot of different things. And him and I are closest in vibration out of all the rest of them and artists great and he's amazing, but Trev and me have a deeper connection of energy, and he's also a lot closer dimensionally so you know artists and six density, which is seventh dimension, and Trev is in fifth density, which is fourth earths, pardon me, sixth dimension. And he's a lot easier to reach than than artifice so me and Trev hang out. And that happens almost every time I channel 99% if I'm channeling Trevor Artiff or any of the ET beings. It's that now the knee hall and Metatron are different, but I don't channel them nearly as much as I channel Trev and Artiff. Incredible. Okay. And I understand that Trev and Artiff bypass the Akashic records and instead they connect somehow to show us really personal really intimate reflections that can encompass our free will and possibilities. Can you talk about the distinction between those. Yeah, yeah the Akashic record. It's, it's different for everybody, the perspective of it right. Some people see it like a library of all things that will happen the destiny and fate of humans. Other people see it as the library of consciousness to human. It doesn't matter how you see it. The concept that Trev and Artiff have always shared with me. There are aspects of what we desire to do as souls and those desires are held to connection to our higher self so before we come into a life or higher self and us the lower fractal or lower self, lower self right that's a fun one. You know, the lower self and our lower fractal consciousness come together. And, you know, because you're integrating after you leave your body integrate up into your higher self so you see you have more access to more consciousness. And at that point, the energy is, you know, about reaching as much as you can before you set up your next life. So when you're doing that, you're planning, you know, I want to do this for the earth I want to do this for my experience. I want to be born in this part of the world to these parents all this thing you're setting up, and you're doing it so that you can have the experience that you believe your soul needs, or that wants or that is excited to do. But you also understand that when you go to earth your free will is a huge part of that if you don't have free will you can't really do anything but follow a script right and it might be exciting for the actor. The actor is following a script that they're not aware that they're they're acting in, but as a soul it doesn't do much for the growth right it's just an experience that was already written and pre plan. So you go through there. And, you know, hey, I'm supposed to be a Chandler in this life maybe that was the plan all along but but if it wasn't, you know, I could have just as easily kept on with my old life and did a lot of really horrible things I was involved in a lot of, you know, gang violence things as a teenager and getting older. After my son after I found out, you know, his, his level of handicap. I got into drugs real bad so I could have ended up just staying in that lane and going. The higher self says hey, you know, hey you're doing drugs the whole purpose of our life was to come here and channel. So the higher self works with that lower fractal nudging pushing shouting some people don't listen to that some people will always choose a hard way now I think eventually, we all listen to the higher self because the higher selves are relentless part of us it's a part that is supportive of us and also tries to show us what the path was set up before. So it continuously does that and pushes you so that's kind of the model that Treban Artif have always shared and what they say the Akashic records are, in their perspective is this layer of the highest probabilities or the most likely probabilities for the highest good path of a human being, like what their plan was before they came here. What most humans do they live their path. At least mostly they live their path you know 80% 70% 65% and some don't and the reason they distinguish that differences because it, it plays into how they read people's energy. So they're looking at reality from the fractal part the lower fractal part of us the personality part the part that lives on the planet hangs out. Okay, now you're connected to your higher self and you're connected to this thing that you're asking questions about. So what if it's a relationship. You know, hey, I have a question, travel about my relationship with this person. Now they're looking at you and all the parts about you that are involved in relationship your love your sense of self, your traumas your resistances. Your capacity to love all of these energies that are part of your chakra system your or field, your mental body emotional all these hundreds of different things. And all of that energy connects to the higher self and then the higher self connects to your guides and connects to this person and you and this person are singular consciousness. They're looking at that as as a component, and their guides and their energies, and it shows one big picture. And that's how Trevor and I are to look at this energy, and they share with you the perspective that they have about what it is they see in you in that moment, knowing that yes the soul has this plan here, and there's a good chance you'll go through that plan and you'll do something here but right now this is the fractal energy, and this is what we're focusing on. But for me, I've seen that be a really great tool for people to use because, you know, most people say, okay, your path you're supposed to be a healer, right. And they're like, great, I don't know anything about healing, and they might get excited for a minute but it can also be in the back of their head if I don't do this I'm going to mess up my life. I'm messing up my soul. I'm not going to send I'm not going to do this I'm not going to do that and they, they people have a good way of worrying themselves a lot for nothing. And I think, Trev especially really understands that that humans are this way. And I think that's also why they kind of lean towards that free will aspect of our energy versus. There's a little bit of both you know a little bit of the higher self and soul and the destiny that you wanted to have and the free will that gets you through the experience but that's the difference in how they do it. Amazing. And I'm laughing while you're talking because I resonate so much says exactly what happened in 2019 when the divine came and they kept saying you're a healer you're a priestess you're a shaman I'm like, what. I mean, I argued I sat down and I said, like I was at a boardroom table, and I was saying I'm not going to see dead people. And they were very they were just so beautiful with me they were perfect with me with my personality you know because I'm not good with being pushed. And I just have this huge independent streak. And yeah they were so gracious to say, Oh it's okay, you don't have to see dead people of course the second night they came back and said it again and then they showed me what it would be and I was like oh it's not so bad. Okay, cool. But this was a huge question just like you're saying to be told that when I had no resonance at all. I understand that all my friends are healers. I understand the people I interview for 16 years on the show are healers, like I get that's my tribe, but like me. I get that I'm clear sentient and I can use that but me, like it was a big thing. And I just had to be with that information until more started to be revealed. And I think I'm still in process, frankly, so I so get what you're talking about, because that could be a really big question mark for people like an identity thing. Well, it's it's it's also, you know, a smack in the face like you said like what, what, you know, me. Even if it's not foreign to you know, it's a lot to put on someone, you know, hey you're here to, you know, what what if that one person asked the question, you know, hey you're here to cure cancer you're here to create technology that will save everyone, you know, that's not that's a lot to put on a human mind. Yeah, and then you know the next question you have when you get something like that. So what does that mean. What do I do with that. How, how does that manifest through me. Can you get can you be really specific so I can get right on that path. And sometimes it's just, I think you have to be with the process and yourself just be open to it. Oh yeah, if you try if you if you don't have the ability to sit with it like you said in process. That's the only way humans can really do pretty much anything I know exciting at least some people and you know some people have that amazing gift of just being able to do you know yeah okay I'm here I'm okay yeah whatever. Most people are you know 99% of people aren't really even if if if that is a kind of a reaction to people yes I'll do something when it gets into certain things there's just so much you can do until that time comes anyway. If you would have told me in 2005 that I would do what I do now, just a couple years before I started really actually working through the process of understanding my own spirituality and then going down this crazy path of learning. I would have laughed out of said, you know, whoever you are you're on better drugs than I used to be. I would have and I could see myself, I see comments from people. And some are really crude and some are really just, you know, you can tell that they just don't understand. I'm like, yeah, yeah, I would have been that person, probably a little humor with a little bit of skepticism, plus, you know, even more because I there's no way there's no way I could have seen myself doing anything of that of that sort. So I'm a different person then and that's the thing if I would have heard all that then I would have probably thought so much about it I would have taken actions to to go away from that like dude I'm not being any anywhere around that weird stuff, which could really mess up my whole journey to you know. Oh my gosh, a different human. So I have one more question before he gets here channeling and how did you get Vasta to do the artwork to portray your channel beings on your website because she's impossible to get a hold of she's overbook she doesn't even take work anymore that I know of. I know I've wanted her to do some things so how did you get Vasta to do artwork for you. Vasta and I are actually dearest friends me and my wife and Vasta have known each other for a long time I actually have known Vasta longer than I have my wife, which is amazing. When I started channeling tread was like the only being ever that was heard of that was partially reptilian genetics, and also a being who was loving and type one, and Vasta was really into reptilian beings back then. And she was all around my channeling, and we connected on social media and then I started seeing her work. She did a lot of work back then with the hybrid children energy. There was a guy who now lives in Europe way who actually owns a ranch down there to open up content for hybrid children. She was kind of part of this group of people. And we communicated for a while and we became really good friends. And, you know, she she is definitely a very private person, and she's also overwhelmed with our community, a lot of the time because of how much imbalance there is in it and I'm saying that to be nice. So she doesn't she doesn't. She comes on so it's funny. She comes on social media long enough to anger a bunch of people with her, her outspokenness and her perspectives and then she goes back off for a year. You know, I'm fortunate enough I know how to get a hold of her without the social media now but yeah she just, she does it now for a living to and I, and I will say that when you're in the spiritual community and you're doing something because you're excited to and then you're doing it as the only means of your income. It makes a big difference like I love channeling that'll never be a thing. But you know when I've got the kids, and then I've got 100 emails backed up that's stressful, trying to create an event, you know, calling around for venues. That's not always a fun part of that it can be, it can be very fun but it can also be tedious. And so I think it's a mixture of all those things and you know the world's a little crazy and and from 2019 and on. It really affected a lot of us and you know the energy that we see others in and the beliefs we do in ourselves I think all of that's kind of the perfect storm. And I don't want to speak for obviously I never would want to put words in her mouth about anything but I just think that's kind of a general sense of why it is so difficult for people to get a hold of her I just lucky enough to have known her as long as I have and and be good friends with her because I know she she doesn't do a lot of communicating with people in our community anymore. Yeah, yeah, I totally get it and what a great friend to have my God she's so talented. And I wanted so much for her to do like a liren representative of me and one of my liren lifetimes and so. Anyway, I know I know quite a few et artists even some channeling once to so after after the show a few. If you're set on Vasta I don't blame you and if the way it's worth it for you, that's great too but yeah, just let me know and I can point you hook me up. Yeah, that's great. Thank you so much. I'm definitely in I believe yeah divine direction you know, but I send her a lot of love because she is such a beautiful talent for this work and for allowing us to have a visual. That's a whole nother opening, like you open to the energy you open to the experience you open to the knowing and then you get the visuals and I just think it's so beautiful so. She's one of the best she she is the she's the best channeler with art that I know as far as the amount of energy that she puts in and the accuracy with it to. And I know a lot of them and I'm not saying anything bad about the other ones are great too but she's, she's really connected into her higher self really really well. Yeah, she's plugged in for sure. All right well we're going to plug you in or you're going to plug into so you do your thing and I'm going to talk to the listeners and the viewers and then as I. I welcome you that whenever you're ready you just bust right in and I'm I'm ready for you and I'll just bow out at that time. All right, I'll let you know by putting my camera back on that that sounds good. That sounds wonderful. Thank you. I'll be back in about the six seven minutes. Okay, excellent so how lucky are we that Rob go to is going to channel for us, and I would highly recommend for those of you who are near a comment box just you know if you resonate if it's if and when I'm assuming when it means something to you in your life. Go ahead. I'm not sure that'll be able to plug your questions in, because I really want to focus on him and giving him this lot of support and space to be doing what he's doing, but also just know I'm a sensitive so maybe I can create some every person questions for everybody to get something answered. So I'm excited about this I'm very excited about this because he's so talented as well. And just to let you know who I am and what I do I am Debbie Daschinger, and I'm a book writing coach. So I help you go from the inception the idea of your book to the completed book. And what happens in between is you write a highly engaging book. Another part of my business, I take authors books to a guaranteed international bestselling status. The great news is, I do everything for the author the author has already written their book, they turn it over to me and I work my magic. The third piece, because I am a media visibility specialist is that I help you understand how to be interviewed on podcasts and radio and get massive results. So I teach you the entire system and there is an entire system there is a before or during the interview and an after the interview. How do you get on a show how do you get a yes, do you know what to prepare so that you show up really savvy and professional, because we I tell you as someone on podcasts for 16 years, we all of us podcast hosts who've been around for a while, we get pitched hundreds of times. So how are you going to stand out when you know how to put things together properly, you do stand out to get the yes. Then once you are booked, you get the yes to be on the show. But then. So what then is you need to know how to deliver an amazing interview. I mean, first of all, you need to know how to do the content and the value. So the host is happy, the listeners viewers are happy. And then second of all, how are you going to get a result for your time. That's a win win right you're really delivering for your audience but you want something as well you want new tribe new people, new people who have these books sold workshops filled all of that. Muy importante. And I have another leg, which is very boutique where I get my clients, just a handful that I work with booked on radio and podcast sometimes speaking gigs and so forth. It's a beautiful world I work in because who do I work with you guys. I work with spiritual messengers because you came here at this time to deliver something very important that only you know, only you know your own expertise and so it makes me just so so happy in my heart to be of service to help spiritual messengers shine their light find their people get their work out there and be very successful. I have a webinar coming up a free webinar. So if you would like to learn how to be interviewed on podcast. I'm going to be talking for one hour and you must stay for the hour because it's going to be really content filled about literally the steps to do this appropriately. The easiest thing to do is go to my website, Debbie dashinger.com and sign up you'll get a free gift there anyway, and then you'll be on the list I do not email a lot, but you will be on the list so that when the webinar rolls out, you can attend, and you can get that information highly recommended. So it's d e b b i d a c h i n g e r dot com. Sign up there so you can get your information. Also, subscribe to this number one transformation conversation. If you are listening on a podcast site, and I'm on all the major podcast sites, then you can just plug me in as a subscriber, so that when my new shows roll out ding ding ding, you get them first to listen to. I have honestly the most amazing guests I was telling Rob before the show. How overjoyed I still am after 16 years like how lucky am I to show up for this master class with some of the greatest minds. So, and this week is just a special sign up, subscribe. And if you're on YouTube, please leave a comment and like as well. And I will tell you now ahead of time that next week on the show, I'll be featuring the amazing Corinne Grillo she's been on before, and she's just released her new book, and she's going to be talking about angel wealth magic. Corinne is an angel healer, a teacher, a psychotherapist, and a spiritual instigator. She's a very cool personality. And I think you'll love her yet again. I'm readying some of my questions for Rob. And once again, for those of you who may be just tuning in, I've got on the show, Rob Gautier, and he's a professional channel for pleidian ET and arch angelic consciousness. He has channeled thousands of ET races for individuals all over the world. And I just want to give out his website because I don't know about you. But when he was talking earlier in the show about his private sessions, I've actually never heard that before. So I've never heard of someone who channels and can channel beings star family of yours or beings you're connected to or someone who keeps appearing or a guide or or whatever the manifestation is or whatever questions, as he mentioned, you could have about your life or relationships. That sounded uber cool to me to have a session like that I know you can book them on his website. And it is his name. It's R O B. And his last name is G as in George G a U T H I E R dot com. So you can look for your own session there. And I also want to mention that I am going to be at the contact in the desert coming up. So anybody who's going to be there, come by say hello. I'll be there as press media. And that is going to be held in. Is it Indian Wells? Yeah, in Indian Wells out by Palm Springs. It's really soon. So you can still get tickets. And even though their actual hotel is sold out, you can book a nearby hotel. That's what we had to do is and the walk is like half a mile or a mile, or you could drive your car from hotel to hotel. Anyway, it's going to be amazing. You know, it is one of the biggest UFO E T events. They've got the biggest speakers. They've got some amazing people who are showing up there. So I'm very excited about it. And there's a few people I haven't heard or connected with yet that will be there that I'm excited to hear and connect with. And what's on your mind? I have to say, I did that solo show. And you guys were so beautiful about it. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for all the encouragement you gave me in delivering just like stream of consciousness for an hour. And it was big as I shared with you. I was really uncomfortable going into it. I was trying to find a guest to take the place of somebody who literally didn't show up at the last minute because she had a death in the family. And it was just one of those weird things. But I knew in the back of my mind when nobody else was showing up. Well, very hard to book somebody in two minutes like you do a live show very hard. Could have happened, though, anything's possible. Miracles easy manifestation easy. But when it wasn't easy, I went, Oh, my God, it's kind of like that story I told earlier, where I said I got the message about being a healer. And it was the same feeling like I was getting this message. Yeah, you need to do a solo show. You really needs to start to keep showing up for your, your beautiful subscribers, right and connect with them. These are your people. And so I was very grateful to have done it, just done it and very grateful for how beautiful you all were in your comments, and your love and your support and how much you said you enjoyed it. So I will do it again, and come visit you more often. I'm getting really close, you know, I'm able to turn this channel into a membership channel. So I'm getting, it's just about time, frankly, because I already have the numbers, but I am getting close to doing that and then I want to create some beautiful merchandise that says dare to dream, you know, and so I have lots of ideas around that. I'm also going to be speaking in December in Mexico City, Mexico, December 1 through 3 at the World's Congress ufology event, and there's going to be magnificent people there as well. Looking forward to that and then next year, as always in February, I will be at the Los Angeles Conscious Life Expo. So many good things coming up. And the other thing I'm thinking about, it was really funny when Rob was sharing this earlier. And he was saying, you know, if anybody had told him in 2005 he'd be doing this work that he'd be like you're on stronger drugs than I am. That's hilarious. And not only did he have that feeling but now that he's in it doing it, this is his livelihood, right? He's got a wife, he's got two kids, he's got a full life like everybody else. Roof over his head, food to put on the table. And it's a lot, right? You do an event and it's a beautiful thing, but what goes into the event, it's a lot of work. And I was chuckling listening to him because I mentioned to you guys, I'm going to do this webinar and I'm doing it because showing up for spiritual messengers and showing them how to do this stuff to create ease, finances, clients, all of that, all the reasons why you came here, came here to serve, right? That's a part of why you came here. And you wouldn't be gifted if you didn't. And I totally resonated with what he said because there's a part of me that's like, oh, I got to write, you know, I got to write the agenda for how the webinar is going to go. I have to hire someone to do a landing page so people can sign up and do it. And I, like, it's have to, like you hear my energy around it, it's not fun energy, because the fun for me is doing the webinar. The fun for me is showing up and hanging out with you guys and helping you go from wherever you are to somewhere else. And wherever you are means you have never done a podcast before, and you'd really like to learn, but you're shut out and don't really know how. That's one way I help you. The other way I help you is, you've done podcasts, you have been interviewed and guess what? The needle ain't moving. Nothing's happening in your space. What I mean by that is you're not getting results such as people signing up on your website, your database gets increased. You have a new tribe who's reaching out to you, you're selling online programs, you're selling books, you're selling workshops, and more. There's so much more that gets created, but PR is freaking fabulous and free. And when you learn how to do it, it is like this magic kingdom you walk into. Things you want to create will be created and things you never dreamed of will be created. It's happened for me. It happens for my clients. I promise you. And visibility begets visibility. I've seen it with my own eyes, meaning you show up and you do the work to become visible like I represent my clients. They start becoming way more visible, way more interviewed. And at some point that turns around. And I don't have to work so hard for my clients anymore. They don't have to work so hard at all, because they are so visibly known and recognize that now the invitations are coming to them. It has happened to me. It has happened to my clients. It will happen to you. So yes, and the other piece of it is doing the PowerPoint. Do I want to do the PowerPoint? So for me, all that minutiae, exactly what Rob described, like you have to do that piece of life as an entrepreneur. And for me, my fun is in connecting with you. That's the bottom line. Just being with you, that's everything. But the business aspect, it's kind of like the little kid in me is like, I don't want to. I don't want to. It's like I really have to convince her. Like, what I have to do with her actually, if this is helpful to you, I have to take her to the finish line and go look what happens when we do this. And then I get to see all your faces. And I get to see what gets created by it. And that's beautiful for me. So I have to go there to go, okay, doing this is going to create all the fun. So, know that I am doing a webinar and if it is right for you, then join go to Debbie dashinger.com sign up. I love you to join. And it looks like Rob is back with us. Hercules. So Rob, let's unmute you and bring you back. All right, everybody. So I'm going to connect now and you'll hear a little breathing and homing and then I'm going to bring in our diff because he connects quicker. So have fun. We'll see you on the other side. Okay. Thank you so much. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate having me on. Here we go. And I've already checked with Rob before this and he said it's okay if I talk over while he is getting prepared. And one of the beautiful things he does as he's aligning with the energy as he starts toning. And for anybody who knows this music I was introduced through my mother and musician when I was young. It's to them from Mongolia. That's my experience of it. Amazing. And just see if you can feel the energy to while he's doing that. And another reason why I'm talking periodically is because when the show goes to radio, just a little bit of trivia for you guys. In radio, if there's silence or perceive silence, the automated playing of a radio show will interpret that something happened to the show, and it'll shut it off and bring in another show very quickly so there's never dead air. So I just want to make sure that there's no dead air also for radio. For those of you who also who love some of the current Viking music that's out there, which I think is pretty rad. It sounds like. Here we go. Reading. Di f and this is a spell we understand that we have many queries for this day but before diving in to those queries there are two things in which we wish to express the first, above and beyond all things that are expressed in this day to know to feel and to perceive that you are loved and our perspective is of the utmost importance. Secondly, it is our greatest excitement and within that same form of great excitement in which we co create with you, not only you, but collectively all of you are co creating with us in this moment as well. And of course, you may begin your queries at all leisure. Thank you. First of all, so much for joining us I was curious about who would choose to come through. And I welcome you and my first question is, can you tell us about yourself, what you look like, where you live, do you have family and what your job is. First of all, first of all, to your own physical perspective, and from your sensory perception, you would not be able to perceive us, but if you are in dimension, that is highly above yours would perceive in six density layer of consciousness is our own race that is placed in the star system that you understand as Dean and Dean it is placed effortlessly and most rightly in the constellation that all of you know it seems. Now of course, the energy that is within our co create collective consciousness is not saying as your human collective consciousness but the identifiable markets for the physicality of our structured body hold approximately three foot and nine inches of height, coloration of our own skin is that which is pale blue in your color palette of course, the hair and eyes are purple in nature, and of course our eyes are much greater in size proportion to the face as well. Of course, different forms physicality are marked throughout the entire expression of our physicality, but those are the most notable and most understand by the human collective in comparison to that of your average human. When aware of the consciousness behind human to human varieties much greater than our own collective, where the variety is much smaller and connection between our own consciousness is the reason why it manifest in such ways. In our own racist history, the energy of our physical appearance from one to another was much more drastically different. And of course, the reason was our consciousness was further apart from one another. And as our collective became cohesive so too to the attributes of our physicality. Of course, job. This is a common stroke that is very human in nature, and one that shows your commitment to doing one energy and expressing your energy through the consensus of what others may agree upon, or those of you who are specifically concerned to open your energy for the individuality. That is your consciousness you may find an energy that not everyone agrees is needed and act upon that energy. Our collective consciousness is more so as your singular consciousness would be, we simply exist, and our own desires drive the passion of our energy and direct us to what job that we may do that moment. So for this experience, our own energy of co-creation is my own excitement. This is why we've dedicated parts of our own energy in co-creating with human collective consciousness and through this moment, working with Rob to speak directly to that way. Are you concerned for us humanity as a collective, and you have a message for us something we may not know that we really ought to pay attention to that could help us right now. Yes, of course, there are no needs for us to be concerned or worried about your collective consciousness. All of you are the same as our own consciousness. Yes, our physicality much different. Yes, the dimensional layers in which our physical bodies exist are much different. Yes, but behind all of the physicality, the souls remain equal to one another, create a forms of consciousness with manifest physical appearance in order to operate a system that is known as physicality itself and done so for the experience of co-creation with other entities who have chosen to do the same. And why would one choose to do that in any form, but of course, the experience of opening yourself to separation in order to find more of yourself, vitally important, all of consciousness that exists in this universal world is one consciousness and that consciousness divided on billions and trillions and billions of times collectively in order for physical experience to hold manifestation of the individual collective collective consciousnesses broken down, fractalized further into the solar system, connected within the collective form of collective and each planet does the same. And once the planet is divided largely enough, the singular consciousness takes home and that is where the individual lies. Now this experience collectively and within your own persons will create within the dynamic of co-creation of others, yet each of you hold that creator inside of you. The Earth collective consciousness has gone through catastrophes many times, but it was never something to be concerned. It was simply the collective form of all entities that lived upon Earth's desire, a new experience to unfold, and that was the catalyst for the unfolding. Humans express their desire to understand and know, will we end in catastrophe, will we end in ascension? This is for your own consciousness to work. This is for yourself as a singular entity to choose the version of reality that you desire and as a collective, no matter what, whether it be annihilation, in moments of notice, or thriving through sixth density and restarting your incarnation cycle, there's beauty and mastery in both, and both are appropriate conditions to experience physical reality as well. The messages that we share with you is the one that we just have shared. Remind yourself the creatorship in which you hold and you will find yourself creating in a much more intentional fashion. Beautiful. I've heard that the Yael revealed that there's a new hybrid race coming online called the Gael, and that the Gael hybrids will be the first ambassadors to humanity. Do you have any details about that? And if so, when are the Gael coming online? Yes, first of all, the Gael exist already in this moment with physical bodies, but the population of this race is not extremely large, such as those of the Yael, but the energy that is surrounding their own consciousness holds the highest probability of those that would first co-create with humans. But of course, these are simply children of the Yael, and the Yael being children of the Playa, and the Playa being children of Sasami, and onward it goes. This is part of the hybridization program, asset co-creation field of energy. Of course, they would wish to co-create with humans as humans are where they find the genetics in which can create their own race and sustain that of their original co-creation and desire. So with that energy, the population of the Gael Yael are exploding out of this moment and gaining more and more entities that are existing in that incarnation cycle. Like some of these are human souls who are done being human and desire to have their extra-dimensional or extraterrestrial co-creative mode, so chosen to incarnate into the physical body of that which was genetically related to their previous incarnation. Others are races throughout the collective consciousness who hold a greater desire to co-create with humans than what had been done before. So of course, the experience of the soul is upon one level of creation and the physicality will much more be involved with humans desire to co-create. In the free will of the human collective consciousness, in the last many years you have opened yourself more so in a desire to co-create with that, which was extraterrestrial in nature and extra dimension nature. And now you are creating the possibility of co-creation for the same appeal of your own experience of growth and expansion. And of course, the Yael Yael are more than happy to apply to that co-creation. And this is how the Gael Yael started. Beautiful. Do we individually have agreements with other entities, energies or beings? And if so, how does that manifest? Yes, of course, first of all, each human that is living in this moment holds not only an extraordinary amount of impetus that can be connected to your higher fractal consciousness and be a part of your psychic networking but are also working in the capacity of that which is general guides. They are giving guidance on your sleep stays. They are giving guidance to your intuition. They are co-creating with your higher self in order for your higher self to share more energy into your conscious awareness in your day-to-day expressions. And of course, these entities are multitudes of different forms of manifestation, consciousness, part of the over-soaked expression of consciousness. This means that all of you have several human guides that work with you, that are not physically incarnated in this moment. This means all of you have extraterrestrial guides. All of you have beings that exist as humanoids, as reptilians, as avian consciousness, and as all of the other archetypes in which you've seen some that create fear within your mindset, others that create joy in your mindset. Yet all of them are within your over-so and all of them have a connection with your consciousness. Many of you recognize fear within your self-immediate when perceiving certain archetypes and with humans, reptilian and insectoids are the two greatest offenders for the fear co-creation with human beings. But many of these entities are not as you would see malevolent in nature, nor do they fear co-creating with you for your own co-creation of fear. Many of these entities are type 2 beings that are within the central portion of benevolency and malevolency, but to your own consciousness they hold great allegiance to their own consciousness. They hold great deal of love for you because they are connected to you, even though knowing that if that connection were ever presented to your own self, that it would create fear, and that is why the entities may stand further back in line, the beings who desire for you to co-create until you have healed the traumas that result inside the fear co-creating with your own energy. Knowing that all of you have the ability to connect through your over-so from your high fractal consciousness to any form of being that you desire is very important for you to understand and know if your true desire is to expand and understand nature first of your own consciousness and secondly the nature of physical reality altogether. I've been told that the inception of my soul galactically was Elohim, co-creator, and I've always been curious, are there latent or unknown Elohim abilities that I haven't explored or used? Are there gifts that I can use in this lifetime connected to having been or concurrently are Elohim? Yes, first of all you have great deal of that Elohim co-creator energetic field. This is partially due to the nature of your expression. Each human holds part of that energy embedded within their own DNA, as Elohim were one of the 12 racist DNAs that you hold inside of you. And the Pleiadian forms of energy, reptilian forms, Syrian forms, Arcturian forms, these are why these races resonate with the majority of the co-creator collective consciousness and within your own energy. Because you are a person of great excitement and a person who holds a great interest in curiosity, that is why it is activated your Elohim energy in your auric field more so than in most other humans. Other humans may present their Syrian form of energy from their DNA that is equal in all of you, but present that form of vibration externally more so. This is the reason why all of the entities that are Elohim in your own over so are more connected with you directly and who co-create with you from the lineage of your own incarnations. Now of course the latent form of expression that humans do not know or understand in home about the Elohim forms of energy is that they are extraordinarily creative. Scientifically, they are easily able to produce a co-creation from the metaphysical understanding to that which is embedded in scientific understanding. There are great talents that lie deep within you when it comes to the scientific field of co-creating from the metaphysical understanding. And by co-creating a bridge within your own excitement and curiosity through those means, there's a great deal of information that has not been exposed to you at this moment that can come too easily in that way. Yummy. That was beautiful. Thank you. For people who are excited about this conversation about you, about connecting with your amazing energy right now and your insights. And we have this feeling I so want to call in benevolent extraterrestrial beings. I want to call in Star Family. You mentioned Star Guides and we're ready to make contact on a more conscious level or even maybe a lucid dream level. How can we actually get something like that started so it creates a real connection, a real dialogue, telepathy, whatever it would be for connection, wisdom, guidance, exchanging love, all of that. Yes, of course, each of you living throughout your own excitement is paramount for you to experience your psychic networking. Now, of course, having your psychic networking open thing does not only require excitement, it requires you understanding and knowing yourself more deeply. So in order for you to explore the parts of your own consciousness that are most important, that would be to focus upon your present moment. Of course, there is a formula to understanding how to work inside the system of physical reality that creates the greatest opportunity for you to express yourself and explore the consciousness in the most expansive way. And following that energy, of course, opens the psychic networking because your psychic networking is the most natural form of yourself and your consciousness, the soul integrated in the form of code creating part of your excitement with your presence in your now moment with allowing yourself no expectations in your manifestation of quality and reinforcing limitless beliefs that you hold with the positive thought processes and supportive thought energy is of course that opening form of code creating with your most natural self. That which is your natural self and be that natural self in the moment. Now, of course, there are trillions of techniques that humans understand alone that open many pathways inside of your psychic networking and those pathways will be found differently by each and every one of you. Even if you are reading from the same manuscript, so to say, but reading through the manuscript of how you open your own consciousness before entering the understanding of how to work with techniques. Being your present self being your true self and living in your truth within that excitement as well. Now, of course, grounding to the earth energy of vital importance because you are member of the earth co created collective consciousness and that energy itself opens your body's ability to be connected while you are reaching to the ether with your higher chocolate form. And once you achieve your grounded energy, then start working with your higher fractured consciousness. Now, of course, higher self and higher fractured consciousness are the same words interchangeably, but utilizing it from your fractured perspective shows you your pathway out about. And what we mean by this, if you understand that your higher self is a larger part of your consciousness, then you would be able to understand that the over so in all iterations within our larger part of your higher fractured consciousness is set. And then understand that your collective consciousness is a larger part of your over so collective consciousness and knowing that your galaxy is the larger part of the earth and that the universe is a larger part of the galactic energy. And once you understand that all is interconnected and understand that your gateway to the greater theoretical universe lies in your crown chakra and connects to your higher self. Then you will have explored all of the things that are prerequisite to your opening your psychic network. Are there gemstones or objects that would be helpful to humanity right now and if so should we wear them. Should we have them around the house gemstones or objects that we might be able to use for greater good. And this is the false utilization of all tools that are within your belief system that are within the bounds of possibility of no expectation and hold a great deal of resonance with yourself use your Jim stones crystals are one of the rare exceptions that even without hold unsupported energy. It is a recorder of information vibration it absolves what is around and holds that vibration clear for the reutilization of that same form of energy all the use of that energy at a later time to integrate with the consciousness who utilizes all uses that fall. So utilizing any crystal form that resonates with you will work but specifically if you are working with crystals that you'll desire to work in challenge states or in telepathic states. We recommend the utilization of modified and utilize holding that within the bodies or a field touching your skin and holding it on you at all times now. This is a very strong grounding form of crystal energy. And it will hold all vibration to the earth very deeply. Many of you who are a theory in nature will have a very difficult time and trusting if you are sensitive person, or if you are highly empathic. The other crystal to utilize encounter balance to that energy. There are multi tunes but for human beings and this moment, the utilization of amethyst and the utilization of any calls that is colored blue or purple will be of great use. Okay, wow, beautiful. And I have all of the above so that's very, very helpful. I couldn't help but think, Artiff, when you were speaking earlier to ask you this question. And it's more of a thought than a question but I'll do my best to make it into a question. I but I've always had this curiosity about why I have this huge affinity and connection somehow with shamanism. I just love it. And I also love the fact that shamans and the indigenous for centuries have always pointed to and believed in the star nations. That said, what is the connection between shamanism and the races outside of planet Earth? Is there something through shamanism that will assist that loving benevolent connection? Is shamanism a conduit? Any thoughts about that? Yes, calls first of all shamanism is true form of Earth co-creation in the magical sins of co-creation. You are unlocking all of what is true in the capacity and potential of human consciousness when working with shamanism energy. Now, of course, that is within the vibration of the Earth energy itself, the energy that is grounded just as your modified Christians the shamanism form of energy. It is the lower chakra high vibration of understanding that potentially, whereas those who work in a theoretical senses and the utilization of channeled forms of energy are working with the etheric form of potential of human consciousness in the Earth vibration field. So of course, both are counterbalanced to one another. Now those who are naturally inclined to connect with the Earth will understand and know the shamanic practice works with the entire form of their consciousness just as the channeled state will. But it is where the feeding of the energy comes from that differentiates the form of shamanism and channeling of the reason. Early shamans of your Earth spoke the star nation reason why it feels so deeply integrated is that during your history, many racism, our own collective consciousness and other races that existed outside of ours and visit Earth and co-created with what you perceive as indigenous persons and in our co-creation with earlier forms of human beings, we shared the potential that we perceived was possible for the entities that existed. Now of course, they are not the only race that visit Earth and Earth has had co-created with many thousands of years of co-creation and the form of integration and with each visitation of that co-creation came another form of understanding from the Earth collective and another call out to the universe for all who wish to co-create with humans to come and enter a co-creation relationship. Now many races require the permission of the entire collective before engaging our race was one. At that time of your Earth history, it was a simple understanding that those that existed in the heavens, that is your sky, were those that co-created from place of brotherhood, place of sisterhood and the place of alignment to the human co-created collective consciousness from that connection, bred the furthering of shamanic practice from one human to another and integrated deeper levels of a theoretical understanding from very Earth-centric form of creation. And that is why your own energy is called to shamanism greatly, the curiosity, your connection to the Earth and in this incarnation. In your over-serve, there are sands, midi, vibration, incarnations of your past lives in which shamanism was the forefront of your experience. Oh my goodness. Thank you so much for that. Yeah, I've done some past life progressions that were successful. Because I was always kind of weird about past life regressions, but I've done some after I felt that connection with shamanism and I saw very strongly both female and male very different lifetimes and just such a beautiful way to live. And thank you for that confirmation. I want to ask you one last question on behalf of all the listeners. And that's about multi-dimensionality. So I think we're all aware of it. There's time is there's only a now, right? There's really not a past and a present, and that there are multiple lifetimes upon lifetimes going on, plus multiple choices that create a different concurrent path and lifetime, which is phenomenal really to try to comprehend. And so for people who really want to embrace our galactic selves, our multi-dimensional selves, our cosmic heritage, and just expand into that reality, which I think is a very high vibrational cosmic energy. How can we do that right now? What don't we know that would allow us to elevate and actually function in that space? Yes, first of all, to understand and know what multi-dimensionality is, is an important part of the process of integrating that consciousness. Yes, there are all multi-dimensions within the universal collective consciousness. And yes, there are multiple timelines for different entities that exist in different realms of their own existence and of their co-creative existence, of course, but multi-dimensionality that we have shared previously exist within the structure of DNA in which your physical body owns. Human beings are fully multi-dimensional in nature, not all races that exist in the universe are. Many races own the capacity to reach above their own consciousness through their own higher fractal consciousness. And that integration process opens the ability for them to perceive higher reality. Humans hold all dimensional forms of energy inside of their DNA from the races that created their own DNA portion, energy side of your own physical structures. And of course, it holds the capacity to be in all densities and all dimensions. With your physical destruction, most of humanity is lived through the third density of experience, yet there are operating and separate function repulsions of your own higher self that work independent of yourself. All of you have fourth density, fractals of consciousness in your higher fractal consciousness. All of you have fifth density, fractals within your higher self, all of you hold sixth density, fractals within your higher self, all of them separate part of a component that is collective and cohesive as your entire higher self. When you enter your dream state, you are entering these parts of your own consciousness. When we shared previously that the formula to manifest what you desire, your experience, is the same as your psychic networking. So too does that energy apply for finding your multi-dimensionality. You must first understand you are creator, understand that these parts of your consciousness exist and are perfect and are connected to you and have no separation from you to start with. The only separation that you have from your higher self in whole, all the fractals within, in the densities above yourself, of course your perspective of separation, by unfolding the different layers of yourself and then expanding outward into all layers of your consciousness, all of the multi-dimensionality applied to you and are easily able to be co-created with. Does that necessitate some level of healing in order to make that access to the higher levels and connect with those fourth, fifth, sixth density fractals? If your desire is to connect upwardly in the dimensional form and expand and do so with, the greatest good involved then yes, but expanding into those places do not require healing. There are many wounded persons who are able to communicate with their higher self. There are many traumatized humans who are highly psychic in nature. But if you desire to integrate those parts of your consciousness in to your daily expression and use that higher dimensionality in your physical experience and of course yes, the traumas will be worked upon. The integration of your higher self into your physical body is the form of what most humans perceive as enlightenment. This focus that humans hold upon making their selves expand. Healing must occur in order for that expansion to stay with you, of course. Healing must occur and that there are already traumatized people, very psychic and connected to their higher selves and I didn't realize that not every race was multi-dimensional. I didn't realize that humanity was one of however many that could do that or are that. Thank you. This was very interesting. Artif, I feel like I just made a new friend and I'm very grateful you came and spent this time with us. Thank you for your wisdom and guidance. Yes, of course we wish to express to all of you that it is a great pleasure to have co-created with you and of course with yourself Debbie as well. We also wish to express that as we've co-created with you in this day, your vast queries of your collective energy that we have never perceived before and because all of us are connected and all of us are one. This allows us to perceive parts of our own consciousness that we have never perceived previously. This means as you are expanding, growing, so too do we. We congratulate you for your expansion and we thank you for giving us that expansion as well. We bid you do for this day and of course you are not. Very beautiful. That was remarkable. And we'll wait for Rob Gautier to come back. I want to give his website out again as he reintegrates into his being. It's robgotier.com, r-o-b-g-a-u-t-h-i-e-r.com. Also you can find him on Instagram and then his link tree is there which of course has the connections to all the amazing things he does. How are you Rob? I'm good. How did everything go? That was so remarkable. I can't wait for you to hear it. And I have to say I'm extremely moved by what our diff said at the very end. I don't believe any other being that's been channeled has ever come through. And said the questions actually helped them perceive more of themselves and expand out in a new way. And I mean that's also a very creator being kind of connection to right that's why the creator decided all of us would come out and leave these wild mad lives to understand more of itself. So that was pretty profound. Yeah, our diff is pretty amazing. I don't know if he has got a chance to talk to Trev too, but our diff is when he says that to people and it does kind of blow their minds. But if you think about it, you know, he's really, he's not human. But understanding the human part makes him understand the whole better to you know, like the universe is pretty interesting and when you find a piece of it, it can make you grow. When he said that first to someone and I heard him say it blew me away I was like, Wow, I never thought that I'd be teaching something to a six density being you know like the mastery level at where six density is it's it's like as close to all knowing as you can get without being all knowing you know. It's beautiful and gracious to I really appreciated that. And I want for the listeners and the viewers to ask you, do you have anything coming up. What do you have coming up what kind of events or how can people connect with you. First of all, the easiest way to find me are going to hold a means through my website. Rob got here.com is one of them. But if you type in et whisper.com it'll take you the same place. It's probably easier for people to remember that. The website links you to the YouTube any anything that you put et whisper and on my account and social media link to me. So Facebook and Twitter all that stuff. On the website there's a place to contact that's probably the best place to contact us if you're excited about something. But my YouTube channels where to go if you want to look at our channeling more because there's like hundreds of free channelings up even channeling classes if you want to learn how to channel. I have two free classes on my YouTube channel and you can go check out things coming up. I have two will be at the Conscious Life Expo. I have announced on my website or publicly at this will be the first place I said it I said I think I said it last night to my radio show but yeah come check us out there and then I do a podcast to it's Enlightenment evolution hour I do it Wednesdays at 10pm Eastern and seven Pacific Debbie's going to be joining me this coming week right. I think it's this week yeah. I really love that next week I think it's like the 24th yeah yeah next week yeah absolutely so that's something I love to do. As a channeler I don't get to be part of the conversation that much. And this gives me a chance to to explore some things with my guest who usually have something that they're very good at or just have a story to share. And it's really a story oriented show I really I really enjoy it and people I've had amazing guests on there too so that's that's that's about it. I've got more things coming up but I'll be announcing those through my website and social media coming soon. I don't have specifics on those yet but they're all coming. You do also have a sexual healing program. Yeah, I think that looks really interesting. Yeah. Yeah, sexual healing and books your books and some books to yeah. I got a sexual healing and learning to channel our two courses that have been done recently this year, and both of them are truly really deeply amazing channel material that dive in one topic. Plus the learning to channel is something that I did in teaching and had channeling from Trevor Bernard if and books yeah all of our books are on the website. I think it's a secondary page on the homepage you have to go down, but if you type in my name into Amazon, you'll be able to find the books. I was featured in a couple other people's books but yeah you can put in my name and the word book on Amazon and you'll find there's quite a few of them. They're out there now yeah. Thank you for reminding me of those. Yeah, well it's amazing when you keep creating and you lose track of all you've already created but yeah I was checking all of that out for sure. And this is Dare to Dream Rob. What are you next year to dream. What are your future dreams and goals. We have two kids and both of them have some special needs my son's is pretty severe and our daughters and our daughters has been. She just had a surgery yesterday right. So we're taking care of our kids and since the baby's been born we haven't been able to do a lot publicly beyond online and just recently. Thanks to you Debbie to the energy for me going out and about like the conscious life Expo. So that's what we're doing next doing more things in person by the end of this year I think personal sessions one on one will be done. I think I'm moving on. I've been trying to do that for a couple years now. But it wasn't the time. Now I think we're going to focus more on courses online events and going out and about and doing our daughters old enough and this is the last surgery she needed. She's had three and this will be the last one she'll need for a while and she is a traveler so we're going to take her around with us and we're going to hit the road and that's what I'm dreaming big now so with a little help from my friends right. Absolutely because the world is so ready for you, Rob and excited for all you're going to be creating I see it for you I know it for you. And for all of us who will benefit from it. Thank you so so much for all your generosity today and for coming on the show. Thank you for having me I really appreciate it and I look forward to having you on my show too and the roles will be reversed we'll get to talk about your life and your story and have a really fun time thank you so much everybody to listen and appreciate it. And today's show with this quote from Dr. Thema Bryant Davis. Pay attention to your patterns, the ways you learn to survive may not be the ways you want to continue to live, heal and shift. Thank you so much for joining us today I know you got so much out of it right in the comments because I can't wait to hear how you resonated with what Rob shared with what art of shared and just all the brilliance that today was for us as co creators, dare to dream and create all your dreams into your reality.