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And I'm so happy to have them inside the house today and whatnot. Ask my co-pilots, YBT and Lil Playboy from Cash Camp. Y'all give it a form right now. Man, show me school folks, baby. Show me school folks. Get up one time. Show me your school clothes. Show me school clothes. Show me your school clothes, bro. Got that shit on. Come on, they got that shit on right here. Get some light, man. Look, see, I don't even know what that is. I don't even know what that is. I can't keep up. Oh, damn nigga. Now you're showing off. Now you're showing off. If we showing the drip. Come up and YBT, what you bringing, man? What you did today? OK, little blue boy, OK. I don't know none of them niggas. But I know it's expensive. OK, OK, they drippin', man. Man, I remember back in the day when you were drippin', you had to goddamn go to the clinic. And now these niggas is drippin' and they goddamn. Get down with the hoes, you hear me? That's what God do, man. A, yo, YBT, yo, Lil Playboy, we got an excellent show today. I'm lit. Yo, man, we got some MCs and some rappers in here today. Oh, yes, sir. You know, these guys get down with them bars, bar for bar for bar and bars and top of bars and stuff. You know what I'm saying? One of them, we were just talking just a minute ago. And we kind of like our lives is like parallel a little bit because we got the same type of background. Like he was born in Albany, Georgia. Wow, hometown, hometown. OK, he went to school in Huntsville, Alabama. Like around the same time. I think we went probably a couple of the same schools in Huntsville. Wow. Yeah, that's kind of crazy. And then my other homie, my other homie, man, I know him over 10 years back. I met him in New York. My man, Mitchell Supreme, had a night at the Pyramid. And he used to come up in there and tear that motherfucker down once a month. Got all the New York niggas and all them talking about. He's like Wu Tang-esque type motherfuckers. Bars on top of bars, on top of bars, the home with hip hop live. But I don't hear that from New York. I think he from like Florida or something. OK. OK. Am I right? Yes, sir. OK. All right, man. Without further ado, may y'all give it up for Transly and Graham. Go. Big up the home teams. That's what's up, man. How y'all feeling, bro? Man, lovely, man. I'm blessed, bro. Thank you for having us, man. Man, I think y'all come to last minute, man. No, man. We'll miss it, bro. We'll miss it. Come on. Full circle, because you know a lot of people don't even know this, but you ain't, you're not one dimensional, Gray. You know, you goddamn got backup plans, forward plans, sideways plans. You know how to do audio and all that other stuff. You know how to produce yourself if you wanted to. A little bit. Yeah, I mean, like, give me your back. Tell them what all you know how to do, besides rap, to even support yourself doing rap. Because a lot of people don't know how to goddamn go in and record themselves. They have to wait on somebody else to do that shit. You know, like, I'm going to rap next week. I'm going to rap next week because of studio. Damn, it costs too much to do this. And you know, but you could do that yourself if you wanted to. Tell them about your D'Vry-esque experiences. Woo, I don't know about a D'Vry. You know what I'm saying? It's serious. I don't know about that. But I mean, I know audio a little bit, you know what I'm saying? To run the mics and catch audio and open up sessions and Pro Tools and stuff like that. But as far as deep down, diving and engineering and stuff, it's really not my forte, but I know a little bit. You got to know something. If you had to do it. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's right in the pocket with what we do. Yeah, it's a YouTube video away. Oh, right. Appreciate it, man. YouTube University, you can build a plane of that. You know what I mean? Anything, bro. I hadn't got them perform my own abortion over YouTube. I saved them a little 500. I was like, shit. So you sure you don't want to do this, right? All right, let's go. When they got me some goddamn tongs, got me some tongs and some goddamn Crisco, bro. That's what they told me to do on YouTube. And it worked, man. It was a little messy. I had to drink a bunch of vinegar or something like that. That's what the old grandmothers used to do. Hey, bro, it's more than one way to skin a cat. You saw what I did. You saw what I did, right? All the big Apollo. OK, get out of there. And I get over here. Get out of there. But we're more to come back on. Transly, what's going on, man? Man, chillin', man. Just really happy to be here, dawg. This is a, every time I come in this space, dawg, I almost catch tears, man, just to see all the growth from everybody. So, yeah, for sure. You're a real emotional dude. You make me cry, man. Man, listen, you're about to make me cry, man. Listen, every year as I get older, I get more and more emotional. I can cry off a good commercial, dawg. Like anything can make me just, or I can see a child running today, father. I can just get teary-eyed. Like anything. I'm just, I don't know. I'm coming a different person. You know what? You reminded me of my cousin, YBT, man. He's very in touch with himself. Seriously, man. I think that it's just you being in tune with the spirit, man. That's really dope. It's really dope. Because I feel like the closest thing to God is, like, infancy. Like, when kids come, they literally have a light. You could be having a bad day, or a good kid comes in the room, shines light on everybody. Everybody's smiling, happy. So it's dope just to hear you in tune. Which, you know, I don't think that crying is something that is emasculine. I think it's something that's masculine. I think it's something that allows people to, you know, just embrace that in itself. And some of the people don't talk about it enough. Crying actually feels good. If you think about it, it actually feels good. But you don't want it. The reason why you're crying probably, but the act of doing it, for some strange reason, feels good. I can't cry that much. Like, whenever I say I get teary, I get choked up. But like, I can't, like, whew. I haven't been able to bring that out of me probably ever. But I think I cried. I whewed. I think I did that one probably like a good four years ago, man. You know, I had this little Spanish girl I was going with. She smoked weed. I didn't. She met a nigger that had, he was the plug. And it was over for us. Let's see what is going on. I could compete with the plug. She started smoking weed. Bruh, I can't do that, because I'm too emotional. You know, if you're like a real emotional person or some shit like that, and you smoking and everything, it could take you to a whole other level. That's true. Yeah, yeah. So it did just me knowing myself. It's not for me, and I don't knock it for anybody else. Do your thing. But yeah, I didn't kill myself smoking weed. I would have got too loud or too sour on your ass. Yeah, I couldn't do it, man. I can't do it. And then they got this new shit, too, out here with all the sprinkles on it. You know, the sparkles. It's frost in there. It's orange and purple and, yeah. Colorful bags. Yeah, when they open it up, it'd be black in the inside. I'm not a smoker, so I don't know. But what does that mean? Why is it black on the inside, but orange or white on the outside? Somebody told me that they'd be having junkies that be high of all types of drugs, piss on bells of weed to make it. I heard that in a crazy place. I heard that in a crazy place. They'll get like a junkie and hide for a whole bunch of shit and just have them piss on like, you know, like a bunch of weed. Just have them piss on it. Once the fire gets in the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah, same time. And it's like, oh man, nigga, this is a new strain. I'm high as fuck, man. You really smokein' something. MDMA. You're so nuts with it. I don't know how true that is. I don't know how true that is. I was about to add this. If a nigga told you you were smokin' junkie piss and went now like, hey, dog, you need to try this new junkie piss. I've done a level way below that, like back whenever I was in school. No, this is nothing nowhere near that. OK. Whenever I was in school, I sold weed for like one summer. And like how I used to make it more like for somebody to want to buy it. I used to put orange pills down in the bag. And then I like, I would just let that sit. And I put it in like the refrigerator. So I'd be like, it's that fruity shit. Nigga's would come smell it like. Got a nose. Woo, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like for real. Yeah. It really was so like, you know, that's a level below that. But I'm just like, hold on, so you know. So all this shit's some bull shit then. It might be. That's the way to do it. You know, put some fruity pebbles inside your shit and then. And now I smell like it. And you think, yeah. Hitch it with a febri. That's how I'm toxic, though. If you smoke something, they got febries on it. Yeah, nah, that's crap. But like orange pills, like organic. Yeah. What's organic anymore, though? What is organic? It's funny that you bring that up, man. I'm actually reading this book called Inner Engineering by Sadguru. And he talks about. Yeah, he's incredible, man. His book is incredible. And that's why I was letting you know about the tears. He talks about that, too. But his whole thing is saving the soil also. Yeah. And I saw that you have plant peace. Plant some peace. Plant some peace. And that's really, really fire. Can you talk about that? It's crazy, because I actually saw him speak at the gathering spot about like two months ago. Wow, the gathering spot, shout out to him. And he was talking about that, just saying like how they've taken so much from the soil, from I think just probably from digging oil, just things that they're doing in an environment that's killing the soil. And he's saying like 40, 50 years from now, it's not going to matter who's at war, who's not at war, who's doing what, what wood the president is, because we're not going to have no nutrients in the soil to even eat, you know what I mean? So he's like, that's the bigger issue that people aren't really paying attention to. And I hope I'm saying it right. Absolutely. But yeah, nah, that's crazy you brought him up, because I just got put on him like two months ago. Incredible, incredible, man. He talks about how like one orange from like 1999, the amount of nutrients that's in it, you would need maybe like three or four to meet that equivalent now in 2023, because the soil is that depleted. That's crazy. I had a grapefruit the other day. It wasn't grapefruit. Like it was a little like more, more of tart. Straight up your machine. Yeah, I'm not gonna say tart. It was a little watered down. Oh yeah. Yeah, it was a little watered down. And it looked fat, it was juicy as hell. And you know what I'm saying? It looked. That's scary, bro. That's super scary. Yeah, it looked official. So it's like, if the orange is as. But I ain't gonna throw them away though. As a whole, it ain't right. What you think the orange juice that we drinking, it's probably even, probably no nutrients in it at all. Wow. No nutrients. I heard that like the soil was just, because you know I've been plant-based for a minute but it don't matter even if some of the vegetables that you get is not getting nutrients from the soil because the soil is bad. I forget, it's a different term for it too. It's like zero. Net zero? Net zero or something like that? Well, basically trying to like take away all the greenhouse gases that are depleting the ozone layer. You mean the net zero? No, it was something. Talking about like not having enough nutrients in the soil. In the soil specific. And I've heard that before. So it's interesting man. I've been playing with the food for forever bro, like not forever but for the last 30, 40 years. Do y'all think that's why you got Bill Gates buying up all these farms and stuff? Yeah. Anything ever. To try to make the soil better or to make the soil worse or. Man. I really don't know. I don't know. I can't even quite put my finger on Bill Gates. Somebody that started off making computers and internet then going into making medicines and vaccines. Now they making food. Genetically. But he got his hand on everything. So it's like, I feel like the overall. Agenda. Agenda. Like somebody that have a. Something bigger than what we actually know. Oh for sure. Because he has a vested interest in us being sick. And you gotta know who his father is and what his father is known for and what he probably instilled in him. Which he is now. You know what I mean? I don't know his dad. Yeah, who his dad is. Let's talk about that. He's a eugenist, right? You know what I mean? Like population control. So he's been dealing with that for as he's growing up. So anything that he's been on, I've been seeing his name all over stuff where. Wow. Like he'll go to Africa and do this new vaccine rollout and hit up all these people. But his father was about depopulation. So anything he tied to, you know. Confirmed or unconfirmed. I just be like, man, boy, about depopulation. You know what I'm saying? Do you guys got the vaccine? I don't go over people's heads, but. Did you guys get the COVID vaccine? Oh man, that's a medical question. You, I had to do what was best for me and my family. I got the vaccine. I got the vaccine. Okay, that for sure. I did not get the vaccine. I'm the only one in my household who got the vaccine. Where everybody be looking at me crazy. Like, why are they here? So I don't judge nobody for whether they did or didn't. Did you? I understand. It was a wild time. Did you? You didn't know. No. Okay. But it was a wild time where it's like, I understand because you don't know what's going on. They shut everything down, man. It was so hard to make money up well besides the scams, but like to legally go do something? Yeah, you had it. It was hard. You had to be vaccinated to go outside, go to work, go on film sets. Which I feel like one of the greatest lawsuits of all time is coming. Whenever they realize, cause you see how Joe Biden just said, oh, this vaccine, if they get this drop another one, it's like, this one works. So like that means that the old one didn't work. That mean you fired all these people and all these people had to change their life. It's just for a vaccine that y'all pushed that didn't work. I don't know. It's just. So now they're saying they got a new vaccine that actually works. He said, right? He said, actually? He said that actually works. Well, he said it works. He said it works. Well, it works. That works. I'm gonna go get it. It's just in case. Have any of y'all ever caught COVID? Yes. Did you have, you didn't catch it, but you did get the vaccine. I ain't saying I did or I didn't get the vaccine, but I never even got tested for COVID. I wouldn't even respect. You know what I mean? I survived like the first three years of it. I got the vaccines when it came out. Man, I ended up catching COVID probably like two months ago for the first time. I was so sad and depressed. It was probably one of the most depressed because it was like, why didn't catch COVID when everybody else had her? No, no. You didn't want that one. You didn't want it, boy. You didn't want that one. I got the Delta variant. It's my COVID. No, I didn't really get sick. Don't think it was wrong. It was wrong. It was my bad. This is the good COVID right here. You didn't want that, that first COVID. Yeah. I caught the Delta variant. It wasn't no joke. This is the thing. I caught that first one. Ever since it came out. Don't worry, young. Ever since it came out. I'm gonna cry. I had the spirit airlines one. Ever since it came out. There was a 98 survival rate. 98% survival rate. Ever since it came out. And nobody dove into that huge ass statistic. Everybody dove into the 2% that they blew up all over the, you know what I'm saying? But great. But it was a lot more for the dying. I would do it again. Do it again. A lot of people died. Come on now. Think about what is 2% to the world's population? Yeah, it was people. That's a lot of people, bro. It was people dying, bro. It was people that we knew. Hey, this ain't even no joke right here. So I understand why. It was a girl, I was fucking, she had died like three weeks later. I was like, oh my God. Yeah. I thought I was next. Yeah, man. I thought I needed it. I'm just one, I needed it. You just never know. We don't got my own. Man, that first code. I'm gonna get it, man. I thought I was gonna be, man. You know, when I see those numbers like 98%, it's kind of hard for me to, you know, believe because when you see the reason why they were actually being, that being the ruling cause of death for these people on their death certificates or when they go to do the autopsy, a lot of these like doctors and facilities were allowed to say that they passed away from COVID and it wasn't that. And a lot of these people had like preexisting conditions, you know, diabetes or obesity, things like that. High blood pressure, which you know, a lot of our people are dealing with. They was calling it COVID. Right, they were calling it COVID because they were getting more money, which is the ventilator. I could talk about this all day long. I don't know how much time it was. Because they was literally like my uncle who passed from it. He was in the hospital and at the same time, my aunt was in the hospital with the same conditions. And they said she didn't have COVID. They said she had triple pneumonia. They said he had COVID. He ended up dying, but she didn't. It's like they was in the same house together. She got the same symptoms. How does she not have COVID? Like that's a big thing. But they was just kind of like, oh, he died, he died of COVID. Like it was COVID. How old was he? He was like 55 or something like that. That's the little young. Yeah. But that's the age group that was getting impacted the most. Is it though? 55? Yes, man. No, 12 is young. No, 55 is young. Who wants to die 55? I would rather die 55 to 12. I would rather not die. You gon' die. We're not young. Of course. Obviously a problem. This would be throwing me off with the whole dying conversation. Y'all do this know that dying ain't just came out. Niggas been dying. Like I don't think it's no such thing as going too soon or any of that. We all gon' be one of them people, that people gon' be like, what? Jack died at whatever age? 92. Yeah, they do today. I was like, hold on, I'm Jack. I was about to say that. I like that. I can't even joke around with my shit like that. Yeah, I gotta make sure I blow up all the way first. And then before I have put that bullshit on me. What you that blew up? What you talking about? No, this ain't blowing up. I ain't made it, Jack. Jack, you do realize that our grandma like three, four years from 100. Yeah, yeah. People is out here living. You see what I'm saying? She's 98, yeah. 55 is half a year. Two years from 100. They out here living. Yeah, we can, yeah, our family does, they get they live on. The key though is take care of yourself so that when you do make it, you not, you know what I mean? Cause I see some people that's, you know, we just like, man, I pray I get old, but dang, do I want to be like that when I get old? No, yeah. I'm a burden to everybody around me. Everybody gotta take, like, you know, so you gotta really take care of yourself. But they also, they also had a 30, 40, 50 year head start with no GMO, no processed foods. They went straight to the farm, got their food. So we dealing with people catching cancer in their 30s and falling off in their 40s and 50s. Like it's normal and it's really not, you know what I'm saying? Scared. Do you think they put stuff in the food in certain areas that gives certain people cancer and targeted? Hell yeah. It's called red lining laws. Look it up. They literally took a marker and took a red marker and was like this neighborhood ain't gonna have access to good food, education, home loans, all this stuff. So we get all the process for this one. Every hood across America looks the same. We all got chicken spots. We all got a liquor store. We all got a pond store. It's designed like that. You know what I mean? Oh, I'm laundromat. That's actually, you can ask somebody like, Jack, what's your favorite pie? Uh, apple. Okay. I mean, apple is your favorite pie if you haven't tried every pie there is an offer. Yes. You can't? Yes. Okay, so they don't make it accessible to you. Do you actually have a choice or are you forced on apple? I have made it up in my mind that apple is gonna be my favorite pie. Have you tried every pie? I didn't want to. You gotta ask somebody, you stop. I was gonna scare it. I was gonna like something else. And then now I got to start over getting to a favorite food. That's the point I'm making right now is it's because it's in your area because that's what's accessible to you because that's what's at your local Walmart. Or if you travel from one county to another county and they happen to have, you know, peace, cobbling, other things that we outside sample, could you possibly love that even more? They make it what's available within your demographic in order to make you just like Jack. Wow, deep, my brother. Wow. Clap for that, I feel like that. That's so real. True, man. That's all they did. Yeah. So, y'all seem to be conspiracy theorists, YBT and Gray and whatnot. I think sometimes we can go a little bit, it could be a little far-fetched or we could be reaching a little bit when it comes to the whole population control conversation. You know, like if the government really, from this is what, this is what I feel, if they really wanted to kill you, is they could kill you. It ain't no thing but as far as putting poison inside of your foods and stuff like that. I think that's a little far-fetched. Now, true enough, I just think that, you know, when it comes to the food situation is, it's an abundance of it. Abundance of these things that we mass produce. Some people are gonna get a little careless with the process of making that shit. And I think that's what, we're victims of that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, capitalism. But it's working, it's like. But here's the bigger play is, capitalism is always at work. So even though we are getting the worst food, we still have to go to the doctor and still have to go through the medical system, which they make a ton of money from. So there's no real interest in them making healthy food because we have to pay for healthcare and all of that. Like say- FDA regulates the food. England. There's healthcare is free, right? So if you wanna eat like unhealthy food, it's a little more expensive. Why? Because if you wanna eat unhealthy or like, if you wanna get the Coke with regular sugar in it and like London, you gotta pay a little bit more for sugar because they rather you get the less sugar option because they rather for you to be healthy because healthcare costs. I mean, healthcare is free there. So like, they don't wanna be, they don't want you sick because, but here you gotta pay for it. So it's like, who's pushing down against big pharma? I understand what you're saying. And you make a really great point. But if, when you bring up shit like that where healthcare is free in Canada, healthcare is free in England, but then we have abundance of junk food and all that other shit like that, we eating that shit cause we want to. Eating bad feels good. Well, the government allows us to do it. The government allows us to do it. You said, I can't wait to get home so I can help kill myself. Cause this shit is too good for me. But even in the candy, if you look at a piece of candy here and there, the ingredients list is like completely different. I've seen that when they had like the ingredients of like, let's say a box of cereal that was in the United States compared to like you were saying England or the UK or Europe versions. It would have way more ingredients in it. Stuff here is banned over there. They don't even let you eat that over there. But here it's just like here. Give it to your kids when they three. Cause they love it. It's the greatest country, you know what I mean? They love it so much. See all the ingredients they had in the chicken sandwiches when that didn't go viral, the Popeyes chicken sandwich and the Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich. Did y'all go get that Popeyes chicken sandwich? I still eat them today. I definitely did get one. Okay. When the last time you had a Chick-fil-A chicken sandwich. I had Chick-fil-A this morning. Come on now. We want to die. Let's go. Since you say eating bad makes you feel good. Have you ever eaten good? Yes, 100%. But you'd rather feel just good? I'd rather have these moments where I feel good and everything. Well, I want to feel good all the time. But sometimes you have these cravings and you know, if you ain't smoking crack or you don't smoke weed or whatnot, then that's your high. It's a real addiction like sugar. Yes, addiction. It's like it's not even something that people can just stop. Exactly, yeah. I'm going to take his word for it. Because I've been crack-free for like 41 years now. That sugar's a bitch, man. It is. Don't fight it. It is. Don't fight it. I definitely wrestle with it. Just let it happen. No, you're going to walk up and down Stone Mountain. He's going to take the love. Yeah, I'm going to feel good. He's going to take the love. Just tell everybody. All right. Shout out to him now. Yeah, yeah, 100%. Yeah, I got a tree of meal I'm getting put up in my house, my LA fitness right now. And yeah, I got a cool little workout regimen. And as long as you drinking enough water and you flushing that stuff out your body and everything, you're getting right. Just got to do it in moderation at the end of the day. It's all in moderation. What are we doing right now that isn't killin' us? Where, what point are we not dying? And if you keep on just thinking about, you know, not dying every day, are you really living? Food for thought. That is for thought. Come on now. Come on. I think that, you know, that's, I think that's part of the the poison to keep people like, oh, shit, I can't, I can't eat this. Oh, damn, I can't smoke that. Oh, man, I can't shoot up on with this. But I think, I think to his point, it's about feeling better. It's like, yeah, we all gonna die. But whenever I die, I want to die feeling fine. Or like, I want to have lived, I don't want to have suffered and then die. I want to like feel fine, at least most of my life. Translate. You know what I mean? Where are these videos that on YouTube where somebody laying out like this? I feel fine. That's the perfect time to die. No, no, no, no, no, no. What I mean is, I did the right thing. Quality of life. Quality of life is what I mean. Quality of life. Quality of life is what I mean. Like, yeah, you could talk, that vegan talk all day long and eat a number of vegetables and go outside and get hit by a new bus. Do it again. Right. You know what I mean? But when you get hit by that bus, was your stomach hurting or was you feeling fine? Oh, I see. That's all I'm saying. I see what you did, my brother. I think the goal for us black men is to be health conscious, not so much vegan or pescatine, whatever, it's just health conscious to understand that what they done told us is a lie. Milk is not good for your bones. You know what I'm saying? You don't gotta get your protein through steak, chicken, beef, just other ways. There's more than just the five meats that they show us at this fake ass pyramid that they present to us, your food pyramid, you know what I mean? So it's like just understanding like, damn, I know if I eat these skittles, I know that shit is not good for me. But it was a time when I did not know that and I'm just popping them. You know what I'm saying? So, you know what I'm saying? I'm just knowing like, if you're gonna eat meat, go to the plug, go to the farmer, you know what I'm saying? Meet farmer John and be like, what's up farmer John? How would you feed them chickens? Okay, I know what you're feeding them now. You know what I'm saying? And being in Atlanta, we have access to that and black owned farms too. You know what I'm saying? So it's not about, I just think that we just need to be health conscious. So you're going to a farm, right? You, when you needed some chicken, you're like, are you going to a farm and you buying chicken fresh off farm? That what you telling me? I'm vegan. But if I was, if I was, being here, I would. Okay, I think it's dope. I think it's dope. Hold on, see y'all from out there. We got family from out there. Okay, okay, that makes sense. I mean, we been down there, seen grandma grab the chicken by the head, crack his neck, put the feathers off of it, fry it up right then and then from around. But do you know how much trauma that put on your mind seeing that chicken down? Yeah, no, just you saying that. You see what I'm saying? It's not cool. Y'all didn't have no farm and nothing like that. It's not cool. But like, have you ever slaughtered a whole pig? I've never seen it. I've never seen it by any of them. Wait, oh, oh. He twisted it around like, yeah, no. That was crazy. Yeah, yeah. Great. Earlier you said there are more than the five meats on the pyramid. I never heard of that before. But I mean like, think about it like, we only know how to cook chicken, steak, pork chop, fish, crab legs, lamb, seafood, but there's like, there's like 300 other foods. But I'm saying what other meats can we really eat? What I'm saying is that they only present those seven sources for protein. Get your protein from lagoons, beans, kale, broccoli. Peanut butter and stuff like that. A lot of protein and peanut butter. Peanut butter, peanuts, you know. It's just that, it's just a, we're living in a, we have a Western society diet. If you go across to India, they're not eating chicken every damn three times a day. They eating it like three times a week. They got a lot of chickpeas and lentils and stuff like that. They may eat it once a day or something with other, you know, but we consume it. We consume meat three times a day. So like, we can't take, you know, our bowel movements are clawed up. We can't even take, we dying from colon cancer. Don't look at me, man. Really, really the number one cause for us is heart disease. And that's something that we do three times a day. That's not hereditary. That's what we can change, you know, but they don't tell us that shit. So when I made my transition in 2016 to a vegan diet, and when I did that, no, not like that, man. Come on, man. You a boy. Come on, man. But it's like that process when I learned the injustice of the food, man, that really infuriated me. And I just went in to dive in by the health and then like social systems and shit like that. So what's your favorite snacks, then? Whoa, chips, still. I still fuck chips. Are you only eating like the sun-dried chips or kill-the-cook ones? Kill-the-cook ones. Hey, don't lie. Just a pleasure. For the sake of this conversation. Is you really eating kill-the-chips? You gonna be doing something better. All right, all right. Yeah, come on, come on, come on. One of my favorite chips right now that happens to be vegan and it's not good for you is Lil Boosie's chips from Rapsnacks. Man, anything that got Lil Boosie on it can't be helped. I love them chips, man. Them chips hitting right now. They got a chokehold on me. It sound like it will happen. Lil Boosie will have a chokehold no matter where they cook. What's one of your top vegan dishes that we could, something easy that we can bake on our own? Don't say no like no salad. No, no, no. Something good. No, my favorite shit is lentil curry, lentil coconut curry. So you get lentils or chickpeas. Chickpeas probably be easy for you. You just drain the chickpeas, you get the can, drain it, throw it all in one pot. You can put your rice in the pot, put the chickpeas in the pot, cut up potatoes, sweet potatoes, put it in the pot, and then you put coconut milk, you put a little curry in there and like a non-chicken cube and you just let it all boil and you can make it really one pot. Take about 20 minutes and then you can throw kale on it if you want it. And then when it come out, it's like a, just a coconut curry, mesh everything. You just made that shit up. I don't. That shit's not even good though. No it don't. That's not even good. Come on, man. You just don't, that shit's not even terrible. Yeah, that was easy. I don't have a recipe book. I don't, I got like three recipes written down but when I get to 10, I do want to put one out like three, one, that's just easy. You said free, don't put no free, look at my boy. At least put it online on Amazon for like 99 cents. Something, man. Yeah, they'll support you for sure, especially when people see you doing good things like that, they gonna support all day for sure, even if it's just a dollar. Right, right. That was the plan for real. About 10 of them, you seen when Nip had, did what he did in Jay-Z ball, how good that was. No, it was $1,000 of a mix thing. $100 mix thing, okay. Anybody, he sold 10,000. That was his second time. The first time he did a $100 mix thing, then the second time he did a $1,000 mix thing. We really don't know if this nigga did this for real. He did it twice. It was the first time it was Prince Char that he sold for. Yeah, I'll take these niggas worried for it. I'm not one of them niggas that believe everything I hear, man. I done seen a lot of bullshit. You never heard about it. Yeah. Do we ever see it? He did, yeah, cause you know how many niggas did that shit right after that? Yeah, man, I made $200 a nigga. Three of my uncles bought that shit. I'm still waiting on the other $100 now. And that one four weeks ago. Yeah, we hear these amazing stories all the time. But how do you even reach out to, for somebody like Jay-Z to buy your shit? Like, cause he said, you know what, that's some good entrepreneurial ass shit. I mean, but Nip was on. Yeah, he was already on. He was already on. Let's never forget that part. And also the California wave, man. If you've got a fan base in California, you can just tour California and make so much money, you don't even need the rest of the country. California circuit, yeah. Well, really, you could do that in any state if you do it the right way. For instance, like Technon, you know what I'm saying? Oh, yeah, love Technon. I ain't never seen Technon perform out here like that. You know what I'm saying? He might come for like a festival or something. Make more money then. But I remember, we see him perform in his US, in this state, man, he had shut that shit down so crazy. And it was like, I was just blown away because that was my first time even hearing of him. And he had a headline, like a radio station, like a birthday bash type event. Man, the motherfuckers in that stadium, that arena was singing every song, word for word, front to back, doing every step that he do when they do it. It was just crazy, though. Yeah, I learned to take nine, man. Shout out strange music. Well, he's really like the most successful independent artist, you know what I mean? Of all time. Yeah, I think he was the first artist independent artist to sell a million records independently, man. He's phenomenal, bro, when it comes to the rapping and business side. Yeah. That's one of my favorite artists that I want to see perform live, though. Oh, man. Yeah, it was crazy. But that was a long time ago, man. Like 2009, when I seen, I can only imagine what the show looked like now. It's probably way crazier. Oh, yeah, yeah, he still get busy to this day. I'm gonna reach out to him and whatnot, man. He was a really cool, a really good friend of mine. We're gonna get him on the show. We're damn sure they're gonna get him on the show. But speaking of that, though, man, y'all talk about the ground and getting y'all music out there in the streets and what now, how's it been for y'all? And what do y'all feel like is the most effective way to do it? For you. Because I'm always seeing translate, you coming up with different strategies and online on your Instagram to different contests and making up your own challenges. Man, so just to speak on what we have going on, like separately as artists, we've always just tried to do, you know, like rapping in the car please. I always tell artists, you wanna get some traction, go in your car and spit your song or spit your freestyle rap, whatever, cause that engagement of sitting in the car is like, nothing's like it. So... What does the car symbolize that people just resonate with it so much? It's raw, it's just super raw. Like if you scroll and you see somebody freestyling their car, you gonna stop and watch it. Like not even if you don't know the person at all, you just gonna see what they're talking about. So if it's good, then you, man, you just got a new listener. So it's just a very effective way. I'm not gonna lie, I learned a lot from Gray about being a rapper and having a brand. So he had plant-based dripping and still has it, but and... His CDs made out of plants. Right. That's a good marketer player. So he was always getting his car wrapped and have his brand on. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, welcome to your board. I straight bit that, you know what I mean? And so... I see what you did, you bit it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You like even plant the plant. Yeah, I bit the plant. But now like, so whenever I came with my brand, I was like, I'm gonna do the same thing. And so we've both just been building our fan bases and through all types of different ways. Like you said, Contest, Gray has a whole vegan Thanksgiving. They does it every year that brings in people. So... There ain't nobody over his house on Thanksgiving. Oh, man, you live with Turkey? You coming this year? Yeah, you gonna have that Spurkey? Come on, man. You have that Spurkey, my boy. I got you, man. I got the Toe Furkey. The Toe Furkey? The Toe Furkey, man. Oh, no, it's like an old Turkey milk, not a Toe food. No, no, it's not Toe food, but it looked just like a Turkey for real, for real. But if it ain't a Turkey, what is it? It's made out of like soy. Soy? Yeah. So it's just a, you make it, get a whole clump of soy and make it corned, clump of Turkey, clump of Turkey. Yeah, that's what I'm about to ask about, man. Cause that's what I always heard about soy, like you got a lot of estrogen in it. Estrogen, more than any other food. That's why the niggas be crying and shit all the time. Yeah. Ain't no clump of niggas, yeah. But about like 30 weeks ago, man, we like sat down and decided that, yo, we're going to put our brands together and we're going to start dropping the freestyle every week. Every week. One year. Two week plan. That was like 30 weeks ago. And it started, you know, we dropped one, dropped two, dropped three. Then by that third week, we had a storyline going. And then we created a whole nine week series, you know, like a rap, hip hopper series. And after that ended, we're like, okay, we're going to work on season two, but we're still doing a freestyle every week. So right now, like I said, we're on week 30. We actually going to shoot something which y'all had today. So we're actually going to shoot something. Hold on, you're going to do a freestyle, y'all going to freestyle for us? No. He's going to play the song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Cause I know you had music freestyle when I did an interview with you up in New York. Man, that was 10 years ago. I'll tell you what we can get, I'll tell you what we can get. But yeah, go ahead. I don't mean to cut you out. So, you know, we were dropping content pretty much every week. And if y'all know it as it's creators, they kind of limit us from making money as much as they can now. So it's like, how are we going to monetize our content? You know, so he has a brand plant based dripping. I have a brand in a piece out of glow that you can see on the hat. Inner piece, outer glow. Inner piece, outer glow. That's hard. Yeah, he has plant based dripping. So we were like, let's put our brands together and put that out, you know. And so we decided to go over and plant some piece. And it's just about plant a piece everywhere you go. And shout out to Sherrod over at PlantSomePeace.com. Shout out to Sherrod, that's the homie. I know him. I met him through my boy Callie. He gave us the play to do the free tea concept, man. And it's done well, man. A lot of people have really taken to it. Free tea? Yeah, it's a, yeah. If you're going to get a free t-shirt, that icon right now, you can get a free t-shirt. Plant piece all over the world. PlantSomePeace.com. Go on the site, you get a free t-shirt. We're shipping straight to your doorstep. And how do I get it again? PlantSomePeace.com, just S-U-M. PlantSomePeace.com. And scroll down to the white shirt, it's free. Bam. So you just go and give me a shirt for free if I come to your website and scroll down. That's right. That's all I got to do. I ain't got to order nothing else. That's it? No. You're going to just, so you're going to pretty much buy me a t-shirt and send it to my house. No money down. As long as I got an address. As long as you got an address. You got to pay for shipping though. You got to pay for shipping. Yeah. How much shipping is, $2,999? $35, not a $2,999. I used to hate that on the commercials. Must be. No, I think it's coming out like $12,000. Man, that's dope. I see what you did. So it's not even crazy. Free t-shirt, shipplin' handling, $18,999. Yeah, it's been going crazy. Well, no, not $18, it's $12,000. No, yeah, no, literally, you be out the door, $12,90, I think, out the door. That's hard. Plants of peace. Yeah, you get to. And then there's another shirt on there, like those are the free ones that we got, the green ones on there that are like $25,000. Y'all got any of them with y'all here today? So listen, we really plan on coming here today. Yeah, yeah. But with that, I mean, yeah, whenever that comes. Hey, hey, y'all, stop bringing up old shit, OK? They don't have no t-shirts. Next time they come, then we will get a t-shirt. Yeah, so. Yeah, because they was planning on coming here today. That's right, yeah. Oh, yeah, my bad, my bad. Yeah, yeah, that's what. No, getting a little too real. We put our brands together, man, just trying to like, I told them at the top of the year, I'm like, bro, we just trying to get to the same spot or the same place. Let's just come together, bro. We're going to get there faster, bro. Like, let's start freestyle every week for a year. And started with that, then boom, we birthed like the rap for higher hip hop or series, which we totally got into. And then once we were running that, now we're like, man, we need sort of a budget to start inviting other artists in. So how can we do that? And just make a positive impact at the same time. It's like, bro, plan some peace, bro. Boom, did plan some peace. And it's successful, man. And it's able to, now we're able to fund the project. Got projects on the way, the single on the way just dropped. Yes, sir. But I think you guys, the best way to do it, man, is really authentic to you and your process of creation, and your process of where you're at in life really now. I just think that it's not like a one answer type thing. You should tap into your strengths and what you're just normally naturally. Oh, yeah, and telling your story, for sure. That's the big thing too. But yeah, just don't quit, man. If you watch interviews with Nip, it's the only thing. But he don't keep saying it, don't give up. It's a marathon, don't stop. Yeah, it's a real life because the more you go, the more experience you got, and now you're starting to see shit from a bird's eye view. You get what I'm saying? Yeah, that's all right. Yeah, that's the only way that you can get ahead if you just keep on going. Because as soon as you stop, you never know if you would just one hand shake away from whatever your dream is coming all the way true. Consistency is definitely the name of the game. You're down and out today, tomorrow. You can be on the top of the world. You just never know what your lottery ticket going to be. Go, go, go, and go. So when did y'all first realize that y'all wanted to be a hip hop artist? What inspired you to do that? Because I was up there talking to YBT the other day. He had asked me, what was my fascination with Michael Jackson? And I was just telling him that when I was five years old, this was when the bad album came out. And I just thought that everything about the bad project was amazing from the movie Moonwalker to him turning into the rabbit dancing and all that shit. The greatest of all time. Yes, greatest of all time with the escapism. Nobody, he got his own style of dressing and everything to the nigga look five different ways and five different parts of his life. And he made that work. He changed his voice five different times and made that work in the 80s. And people got up off their ass and went and bought his projects and whatnot. The stories is he's in countries and places in the world where they don't even speak English, just statues of him. How many people can say that? He holds the record for pecking out stadiums with no openers. Stadiums, not stadiums, the Coliseums. He made grown men faint. Heterosexual men faint, man. And I just remember being a little boy, this is in front of the TV, like, what the? I know I ain't going to be able to do this, but if I could do something, make somebody feel like this is my own type of way, that's what I want to be. Or who was that for you guys? What was that for you guys? It's my question. Bone thugs and harmony for me. I'm going to say Michael Jackson for me. It's the same way. I grew up with the same type of, I used to want to be Michael Jackson whenever I was a kid. Man, I knew every move, every song, video. Put the socks on with the sushi pants. Move up around the house. Try to do the lean, the little lean forward, who's that? The lean forward, I used to want to figure out how to do that. The lean forward, that's what I was literally just telling him about that, yeah. How the hell did he do that? I just told him I wanted to learn how to do that move so bad. It was a camera trick, and it was a thing on the floor where he used that, like, that had shoes and stuff on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought this whole time I'm thinking this fool doing this, I'm thinking they just that cold with it. And mind you, once again, this is the 80s too, bro. As I was saying, as a kid, I'm like, oh, he's just, he's not human. Yo, so it's funny that we having this conversation right here, because every time you try to tell somebody from this generation, this thing, they're like, well, you know, Chris Brown can do a frontwards flip right on the beat and shit in mid dance move. He said, Michael Jackson can't do that. I said, Michael Jackson ain't got to do that. He don't fucking have to do no shit like that. You know what I'm saying? Michael Jackson got it on, you got all this shit on it with the goddamn zippers and shit. You can't be flippin' with all that shit. You cut your ass up, you cut your fucking ass up, man. If you going to follow Michael Jackson, you better be walking on your ass and flipping and goddamn doing contortion and shit, putting your leg behind your head. You got to do that. You can't follow that shit he was doing. He did it first and he did it the best. Come on, and then there's that. I have no rebuttal. Come on, man. Put the jack and mic jack. Yeah, man. Okay, for my two mic lovers, right? Do y'all think that Chris Brown is closer to Mike or Usher closer to Mike? Man, what up? It ain't no such thing as closer to Mike. Like, closest we got, like, what do we have to say? No, it ain't no such thing. Put that nigga, no, get away from Michael. Get away from Michael! They so far separated, but it's also, Mike came up in a time that was much less saturated. Do it again. Of superstars. Come on, now you're talking that shit. So, you know, even though it was less saturated in the 90s with Usher and all, but still it was still more. Bobby Brown. It's less of an appreciation. Yes. That you have for the artists nowadays just because it's simply more of them. I feel like back then, like, my dad used to tell me like, seeing the earth went on fire back then was like magic. Exactly. Was like literally seeing magic. Perfect. And he was like, it was like something you never, but like now you might go to a concert and you love it, but it's not like an out of body experience that you really have. Because you see the nigga on Instagram, you see him. You know what I mean? It's not like, you know he's a human, but back then they really was thinking like, Mike is an alien, bro. Like, he's not human, you know? So, it was just different. At least from my perspective. No, no, you want 100% right? And then, you know, another thing too, just maybe we've been on earth too long. That's probably what it is. You've been seeing it all. Yeah, we did, yeah. Well, I was there in real time seeing this as it was unfolding. So. No, I was seeing it in real time. What you talking about? In real time meaning like, okay, I'm one of the bad video actually comes out. And when you, you can backtracking, look at Thriller on a music video and whatnot and see the evolution of that in real time. And you know, it's that much more magical to you. But then as time progresses and it goes on, you're less surprised, just like you just said. You know, things get less impressive, you know what I'm saying? That's why when you see like 18 year old. Cause you keep chasing that. You keep chasing that in your mind. When you see a 17 year old playing music and they're like, well, wait a bit, blah, blah, blah. And when you older, you like, man, they ain't saying nothing. But to a 17 year old, they never heard that before. So they, that's why they love it. You know what I mean? Because they never heard nobody. They don't want to hear nobody rap like J. Cole. They ain't even heard the simple stuff yet. So it was like, you know, that's why, you know, hope I'm making sense. That's interesting perspective. No, that's perfect. Very interesting perspective. Yes, yeah, that's perfect. You know, we just, we just been here. Yeah, like when you hear 60 red to a 12 year old, that sound like the gospel. You know what I mean? Shout out 60 red. Shout out 60 red, I guess you don't. But to us it's like, oh heck no, like, I can't do nothing with that. But you never heard it. But whenever you was here in slob on my knob, like you had never heard that on my neck, my back. Right. You had never heard that like that. So it was like, you got to, you know, you was in all of it then. So. I don't know why the hell I was seven years old singing slob on my knob. Right. You understand what I'm saying? Cause you wanted your knob and it's slob though. I probably didn't even know what that meant. You did not know what that meant. But you wanted to find out. The natural curly hairs, please don't touch. I thought he was talking about it on his head. I mean, he was talking about it on his damn balls. But. On his, on his butt. Mm, mm, man. And you know when it's half the battle, but when you, when you finally figured it out, that you needed your knob slob, like corn on the cob. You know what I think? I stopped eating corn on the cob. I never even looked at a piece of corn the same way, no more. Corn isn't good for you, so that's good. Yeah, but why isn't corn, I haven't done my corn research yet. You can chew it up as hard as you can. You can chew it up too. And that's going to be whole when you look at it. As soon as you, as soon as you go to the bad doom, you got that corn just as you ate it right in your stool. Like how did it get put back together? Your body can't process. It's man-made. It's not real. It's not a real vegetable. Rice is too. It's wild. Yeah, in some parts of the world, they have like plastic particles in the rice. Like in Eastern. They said rice was created to feed mass amounts of poor people. Wow. They created rice to, because it was cheap. Cheap to make. Man, I got a cabinet full of rice at the crib. My whole, this whole time I was taking rice, grew off of a plant. Rice don't come off of, I ain't know that. Yeah, I can't even imagine. Yeah, what does, I ain't never seen rice grow. You ever seen a rice plant? No. You've never seen a rice plant. There's like fields of rice. And they grow in the ground. It's a grain. It's a grain. If you Google rice fields, you'll see. But I'm sure the rice that we eat now is probably not coming from no getting wrong. Man, it's so hard to know what we eating right now. Yeah, I'm crazy. Don't worry about it. Don't even think about it. Don't even worry about that shit. We're not supposed to fear death. No, don't, no, no, it's death is cool to say it. Death is cool. That's a good t-shirt, right? That is a good, I was about to say that. Come on now, come on. Hey, don't steal my shit. Death is cool. Somebody go over it right there. Yeah. Hey, man. I want to leave. I can see that in Dan's pants somewhere. Yeah, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm going to plant some peace. Put that shit on like a neon shirt. You got to make it seem happy. Death is cool, you know, in Nickelodeon colors. Don't be scared. No, that should be like a funeral home slogan, you know. So whenever the family comes in, it's like, hey, don't, death is cool. Yeah. Because why do we have to wear black at funerals? We want everybody come with fluorescent colors on. Wouldn't that make people feel better? If everybody came in with some sherbet colors? I want my shit white, like Bone Thurs and Harmony 1996 when they performed Crossroads on that stage. That's how I want my shit. That's hard. All white, you know what I mean? That's hard. I want no black. Do you cremate it? You need a cremate for sure. Okay. And why? Why you want to be cremated? Because I don't know. I just feel like I don't want my body around. I don't want my body just hanging around for people, you know, for anything. Yeah, that's one of my biggest fears, even though I'm going to be dead, is somebody dig my body up and do some stupid shit with it. You know what I'm saying? Y'all ever think about that? No? Okay. They're not going to do that. They ain't going to do that. They're going to leave my body alone. We're going to make sure you're good. Yeah, they're going to leave my body alone on my neck. But something else could be eating the body. Yeah, I don't want them bugs on me and none of that shit. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. This is great, really. But you said that when you did it by yourself. I don't want to fucking with me, man. Get leaving me alone, my boy. Leaving me alone. Yeah, yeah. Tupac, did y'all watch the Dear Mama documentary? Yeah, man. Okay, now you saw how Tupac did his shit. You know what I'm saying? They cremated him then and put him inside the ocean. Tupac in Cuba. No, he's not. No, he's not. I know somebody that said that they used to date Tupac's sister. Like this is like a credible source. And they said that Tupac's sister used to be on the phone with Poc. Like he'll call like once a year, something like that, and just check up on the family. And he's still alive. I heard this nigga say that same shit. And that nigga be high all the time too. So I don't know if I really be. But he said he was smoking. No, he said he heard somebody else say the same thing. He heard somebody else say that. Yeah, yeah. You know what I'm saying? He said he was smoking, so he's saying it. No, I think, and that's part of his legacy, bro. Like he just gotta be alive somewhere, man, cause he was so great. But he is alive. He's absolutely alive. He's alive. Man, what? The essence of Tupac. The essence of him is. His energy is high, man. He's definitely sparked what he said. He wanna spark the next person. I think that he said, and we gotta listen to the words, he said, I may not be the person that changed the world, but I'm gonna spark the mind. Meaning he may not be, but he might be. And I think he did. He definitely sparked the mind of Nip. He did a hell of a job. He did a hell of a job. He took that and ran like. All the way, and do you know what this, we didn't know the wildest part about Tupac is, you know, just, you know, just out of, I'm a human, y'all, with the conspiracy. But he was only 25. Yes. And do you know how slow niggas is at 25 these days? This nigga was so intelligent, man. He was advanced. It's so advanced. At 25, yeah. And then, you know, I hate, one of the things I hate when we get up to Tupac conversation with certain people is when they challenge his manhood, how hard he was and all the other shit. And it's things that Tupac had did as, you know, being disruptive or young, or even the gang members wouldn't even do. Mm-hmm. You know what I'm saying? Shutting out the pulley. Shit, come on, bro. Oh, kind of crazy stuff. Oh, kind of wild shit that. Pop was about that life. Yeah, he was about that life. That opening scene on their mama with dudes was talking about how Tupac did that, then went back in there, lifted the blunt up, and it was like, y'all play my, listen to my new song? Yes, yes. That was like. I love the way to open up that. That was like, oh my God, like, I cannot believe. Hey, bro, this how cold Tupac was. He whooped the niggas ass that did the documentary and they did the shit and didn't make him look stupid. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm. Damn. Got to respect. Bro, that was probably the hardest documentary out on Pop, I'd say so. They did it right that time. They did it right. I didn't see it. I slept. That shit was, yeah. It's the best thing out on Pop, I think, for a life. Dylan, Dylan in the hip hop, just strictly have put it down the scene as a gang. Oh my gosh, a whole list of music that would not be here. It would probably be different names for them, but the rappers that we know today would not exist. I don't think, dawg. I don't know. I don't think so. There'll be a level, there's a level of, there was a level of talent you had to have. You don't have to have talent now. I think Biggie's death impacted who we saw versus who we didn't see. Oh, okay. I'ma go with you on that. Me too. I'ma go with you. Can I take Biggie and Tupac together? Open up after him. Ram, I'm talking about Ram, dude. J, I mean, J say, J was gonna become regardless, but you just never know, like it could have just been different. UK, I don't think it's gonna pass. But J was coming regardless. The South was gonna come regardless too. I think that whole South, when South took it over, it none of that. Tupac and Dup, Biggie wouldn't gonna be able to do it. Master P was coming. The South was coming for sure. Master P was on his way. Yeah. Yeah, I think that Biggie made it easier, definitely. I think he made it easier for even- But they just had a line though in a song where he said he was like- The commission. Yeah, he was like, y'all think that I wouldn't have got on a big, wouldn't have been big, would have been living, but if big would have been living, y'all would have got the commission. That was like one of his bars. He was basically saying like, I was coming regardless. He was coming. But you just never know. I think that once again, like you said just a second ago, it makes it easier for the cream to, cause you want more of it. You want more of it. DMX, he was definitely gonna still be here. He was coming. People, cause you're always gonna look for who's next and stuff and to take it to a whole another level, especially- 50 Cent was still coming. He was still gonna be here. He was still gonna be here. I don't think that one man can stop another man's a grind, if he has that grind, if he lives by those principles of Nipsey say, and don't quit. If you keep on going and you keep on moving and you keep whatever that vision is, you see for yourself, that shit gonna happen. It's inevitable. It's inevitable. You gotta believe it. It would be dope to see though. I would love to see the state of hip hop if them two brothers wouldn't have passed. And where we would be into it. I think- I would be a politician right now. I like Biggie. He definitely top three in my book. But my thing is he ain't really put out that much music. We never, we don't, he only had two albums. It's not like how pop got so many albums, you know what I mean? You see, hold on. Before his death and after his death. Pop, Biggie had one album before his death, one album after his death. But what if Biggie did have more albums? What if he did? They just ain't put him out to be do it? What if he had more music than that? Your boy Sean D. DeCones would have been released that. He probably had, not cause keep in mind, Biggie was about to do his own thing. And that's another thing too. I was about to say, you know the whole bad boy curse. Biggie could have ended up falling off or getting angry with Puffy or anything. His whole career would have just shot down like Craig Mack or all the other people that left bad boy at that time. And he might not put out no music for six, seven years cause now he ain't got the team and stuff with him no more. Even if he was still alive. Well, he had so many things. He had the momentum to move on. And he had fulfilled his, that last album was gonna be fulfilling his obligation to the label. And he was going to go start out his own situation. That's why he would even sign Little C's and the whole Junior Mafia to a whole other label. They're not signed with bad boy. They're not on bad boy. He was moving on and fixing to do his own thing. And so with that being said, like I said, I'm pretty sure that is definitely more Biggie music out there. And we just don't know where it's at been the people that do got it. They probably are released it later on. I want you, I feel like that means it. No, in fact, Joe confirmed that recently. What did he say? Yeah, him and Biggie did this songs on pop and he said it had like seven or 10 and they said it was just so distasteful that they burned it or some shit. Didn't he just? I heard Jay-Z had, yeah, that Jay-Z had one way. He played, he was performing the Apollo three times of two pop this song. They say the little Kim had a crazy two pop this song and they had, you know what I'm saying? They pushed that shit all the way to the back. And, you know, I don't know they destroyed it or whatnot. I want to say Clark, Clark can't say he heard that shit. And he was like, I need to, yeah, don't let me hear that shit again. Don't get it to me because I'm gonna probably figure out a way to put this out and whatnot. But yeah, I think it's a lot of that shit. How many songs do people record all the time? How many songs do you guys have in this to cut? All of y'all individually, that ain't seen the light of day. I think about it. I have an external hard drive for my external hard drive. See what I'm saying? Why Biggie don't got that? Because back then they had home studios where we could just sit at our house and freestyle and make a hundred songs in two weeks. But who ain't made it? When you got all these budgets and big elevators and million-dollar actors getting shot on them. Lemazines. Yeah, they had a whole bunch of crazy stuff going on back there. But you're Biggie. You're Biggie, you got access. You got resources. Why ain't you gonna, why wouldn't you go over and take advantage of it? Now, he probably got a bunch of songs that I don't really like that song. He probably got a bunch of them that's maybe sitting somewhere that's like, no, it's actually fire. I don't even think he got that. But, but. I think they would have released it. But if it's something that he ain't like, Puffer might respect it like Biggie didn't like him in his life, so I ain't gonna put it on him. Yeah, I feel you on that. They would have released that. I think they would have released it. They would have definitely released it. He's been sure. It's definitely a demand for it. I know y'all see artificial intelligences like emulating artists like Biggie. This Biggie voice on songs that he never rapped before and it sounds strikingly like Biggie. I hate that so much. Yeah, how y'all feel about that? I love it. I can enjoy like chat GPT and it's simplifying certain things. But when it comes to recreating people, especially people that's still alive, like they got something out now where you can go listen to like Tom Brady, all these different people speak on certain things. It's like a Facebook thing or something. Somebody just dropped it. It got Snoop Dogg as one of them. But it's like you can sign up for this thing and like you wanna learn how to do something like Snoop will be telling you how to do it. And it's an AI. And it's like Snoop is alive. Like pay Snoop to do it. You know what I mean? Like that's how I feel. But me saying that ain't gonna stop the train. I know, for instance, like Bruce Willis, he has like a condition where he's not able to speak and just act like it's- He has dementia. Yeah, dementia. So he actually signed over the rights for his likeness to be used in AI. So if he does pass unforeseeably or like people can anticipate him passing because he has dementia, then his estate will still get paid from his likeness being used due to AI. So I feel like it does have its benefits in some way because his family will still be able to benefit from him not being here. If he wants to get casted for a new role or something like that, they can just use AI to recreate it. So if you give permission, I think that's- I'm pretty sure they gave permission though. No, I don't think they did. Cause I know with that Drake song, boy. Oh, we made like a song. Yeah, the song of the internet. They was like, we need this offer here. I just heard something with Kendrick. You think the Kendrick verse recently, that was AI too had to be, right? Yeah, I believe so. So then now we ain't gonna know, like is that AI, is that real? It's a powerful tool, man. I feel like AI is like one of them things like the internet. Like you got the worldwide web. It's just a dope invention. I think AI is the most powerful thing. Oh yeah. I think it's way bigger than the internet. It's in its infancy stages. Yeah. I think the full effects of this is a whole new world, like completely different world. Like this bigger than social media, this bigger than, AI is just crazy, dawg. Are you scared or are you embracing it? Like anything, I'm embracing it because I feel like the instant you become a dinosaur, you end up like the dinosaurs be extinct. You gotta change to your changing environment at that like, you know, Charles Darwin. So if you get down with it now, I feel like if you learn the ins and outs of it, then you'll be able to make use of it easier when the time comes for it to just be used in daily life. I agree. Where you at with the gray? No, I definitely, I'm embracing it, you know? I see like, I see the end where like, we is us versus robots. You know what I'm saying? I see that. It's a popular, for sure. You know, but right now it's like, yeah, she ain't right this bottle for me, right this little deck for me, right this. Come on, yeah, yeah. You like changing the tea like, right this, you know what I'm saying? I'm tired. We say one in every 15 people is a robot, so. Whoa. Right now? Right now? Who said that? One, two, three, four, five, six. I'm about to say. Hey, so I do believe some shit like that, but not like that. I believe, do y'all believe in aliens? Yeah, yeah. I believe in some aliens in this motherfucker, man. Yeah, yeah. I believe it might be two or three aliens in the room right now. No, I don't believe that alien they said they just found. No, I'm about to say they said Tila Tequila was an alien back when we was on my speed. You remember that? I remember Tila Tequila. And she ain't went nowhere. Where she at? I ain't seen her. Think she might have went back. That's for sure. She married with kids and some shit, you know? Right, right. She somebody bitch, man. That's what they want you to think, man. Man, I forgot about her. I did. To the same. I didn't forget. Man, she just canceled, that's all. They canceled the show and every year she up there having somebody baby raising somebody baby. What y'all think about them aliens they just found? Did you get it? Yeah, Mexican government. Because it's fake. You think it's fake? I just can't imagine them looking exactly how we think they look. That's how ET looked. That's what I'm saying. But like ET. But you got to also remember a lot of the stuff that being these movies be real government secrets and then we find out about it. But who said that? I mean, even if they broke that down. Your head. Think about. They're programming us. No, they are programming us. Stuff like when we used to see watch movies, they have electric cars. And then now we got electric cars. They have flying cars. Now we got flying cars. Even when they had FaceTime. Now we got FaceTime. It's so much stuff that being the movies from back in the day from the 80s and the early 90s and stuff like that, that now we got access to. But it was like, they didn't think it was real. But here it is 2023. I can call my son and look at him and he be all the way in Mexico somewhere. You see what I'm saying? Now they've always put the truth in there. They didn't have cell phones back then. But hit it as fictional or sci-fi. You know what they did? Did y'all ever see when they had brought back that episode of The Simpsons where it's showing Donald Trump being president one day? Yeah, president. That's kind of crazy. And it's crazy too, because the scene, like when you watch it frame by frame, he's coming down the escalator and then there's somebody holding up a Trump sign and there's literally an instance where it happened at that exact same angle. I think he recreated that. He recreated that. You think he recreated it? I don't know. You think he ain't watching The Simpsons too? I don't know. It's a lot of Simpsons. You know you made it when you turned, you turned into a Simpsons. It's a lot of Simpsons, like predictions that actually happened though. Yeah. Hey dawg, that's how I know Adam blew up if nigga get on The Simpsons. Are they still here? I wanna be on The Simpsons, my nigga. They still here? Yeah, yeah. The Simpsons longest, really sure. All the time, I believe. Yeah, I've been watching it from day one, man. It's all the time. It's all the time. Let's make it happen. Jack, throw the Simpsons. Exactly. And then introduce the A.I. since back then from the Cedars. Yeah. Mm-hmm. Yup. Cedars world. Cedars world. Oh, yeah. Damn. Cedars world. Yeah. Bro, Cedars world. B.T. Took me back then, man. I used to love Cedars, bro. Low-key had a damn crush on me. Don't hate it. Do it, bro. Do it. What you wanted to do to her? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I wanted to download his Giga Bytes. Oh, I love the person that you are, man. I like, well, you do goddamn put your dick in that. That shit would've came off. You put that in it. Was she a robot or some shit? She was like some animated 3D art fiction. Yeah. She's from the Metaverse. Yeah. Right, right. She would've gave you megabytes. Megabytes. I can't get a hard drive. He gave you some Giga Bytes, my nigga. Giga Bytes. That's good. Yeah, you downloaded the Ploppy Disk in that. Somebody voiced, right? And they were just talking over it. It wasn't like. It was, I mean, Dallas. Yeah, the beginning stages of it. Yeah. They always thought the truth in the movies, because they got to make it so far-fetched that you won't believe it's real. So you would be like, oh, it's fake. Y'all seen the guys with the flying jetpacks and stuff now, right? On the water. They said that they bought the, On the water? Not on land. They got them flying around racetracks and stuff like it's a competition now. Like how you got a race car, they got dudes with backpacks on flying. Like they on a race car. Get the fuck out of here. And then I also seen they did somebody deliver a pizza with that. Y'all seen that? Yeah, yeah. That sound like some bullshit right now. I heard about that. I heard about that. And they got people flying around. I bring my pizza in the flying jetpack. They got a flying car. That's not gonna be cold. But they already robbing a piece of man in the hood. Anyways, why you gonna let them fly in the hood with one of them flying jetpacks? But do you know how dangerous that is to get on a jetpack and fly around a fucking track or to go to a n***a house to deliver a pizza? Do you know how dangerous that is? You could get shot down. You could run into a fucking power. Well, you could hit a bird, a bird hit you right in the fucking eye. Yeah. Now imagine we got deal people falling out of the sky. That's why I'm worried about driving flying cars. Don't forget about the wind chill factor. Wind chill. Like if you flying against, like the wind blowing this way and you like going real fast this way and shit, that shit can like, you can hit an air pocket and it can knock you off track. Damn. It's coming though. I hate to say it. They already improved the car. Cars fly. Now when that shit happened, it's gonna be crazy. And they for sale, they for sale now. You gonna get in the car. They officially for sale. You gonna get in the car to fly. You gonna, it's some n****s, you ain't got no business getting in the car with it that's on the ground. You gonna get in the car that a n***a fly. And then what about when? Think about it, you might get in an accident list cause if you about to, you got more. How many accidents all of y'all got under your belt right now? I ain't never hit nobody, but I've been hit twice. By yourself. Nasty, that's crazy. I ain't getting no flying car with you. But imagine all the people that be running out of gas. Man, you gotta be ducking, flying car. I feel falling to the ground. I'm like, such as to die cause somebody ran out of gas and fell on them. Oh, see, look at that. Look at that. Or a car fell into my house. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, shit. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. How much gas do you need to gas you? But think about it, wasn't that on the Jetsons? The flying cars, the flying jet packs. Why was there no black people on the Jetsons? Did they not think we was gonna? Maybe. And furthermore, why was there no black people on the Jetsons? Woo. The future. Y'all been enjoying it right now. They tried to paint a picture, ain't it? Yeah, Lord, man. It's not a conspiracy. Hold on, man, we got to Google that shit. I can't accept this. I can't accept this. Oh, cause they had different ethnicities on the Flintstones. They did have some Puerto Rican motherfuckers on there. Definitely black people for sure. Somebody Google Flintstones niggas on Flintstones. Google them. They put an alien on them. They had the alien in that robot. On the Flintstones, hey, dumb, dumb. Kizoo. Come pop up on you, man. Kizoo went to the... He was on both. He was on what? The... Kizoo. Kizoo? Nah, a black person. Nigga! There you go, right there. Oh, yeah. Come on, God damn it. There, there. Come on. They had to get our audience. Now, it was another Smurf. It was like a little ragged ass girl on there. Remember that? You know what I'm talking about? He looked dirty with it. He named him off the top, too. Hold on, hold on. You know what? I got that. See, a Smurf's was made from an experiment. Yeah, they wasn't even... They like, wasn't real animals or no shit like that. They was created. I remember. Yeah. Yeah, so they don't reproduce or no shit like that. They like asexual or some shit. No, for real? Yeah. And hold on, I remember that. Y'all blowin' my mind. Smurf's is not real. You remember when he was making the things and it blew up and stuff like that? Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah. I remember that with Powerpuff Girls, Sugar, Spice and everything nice. And you remember the underground versions of the Smurfs? That mean the water birds? The Snorts. The Snorts, yeah. They had them things on their head. Yes, yes. They were yellow, right? They was, yeah, they were different colors. Yeah, so, amen, what y'all got comin' up, bro? Now you say we got plant-based drippin', plant-based drippin', in the peace out of the globe, plant some peas, dot com, get your free T-shirt right now, man. Know what you're doin', plant some peas, dot com. Put it in the, put it in the... Goat it. Yeah, me put it in the... And just make sure y'all support that. We also have a new single that just dropped. We've been puttin' out these songs every week to build up the buzz and the people are, you know, really, was really waitin' on it. So we just dropped a single called On The Way. On The Way. And our homeboy, J.Biz, he off in the cut right now. On The Way, J.Biz, On The Way, though. And, yeah, man, so that's the single and the EP is dropping probably within the next month or so, I don't wanna give a date, but it's comin' very, very soon. It's On The Way, actually. How many songs on the EP? On The Way. Just five. Five. And then our whole project is gonna come probably top of the year, so. Are y'all doin' this all independently? That's why we, that's ultimately why we did the church and why we push our own brands to, like, give ourselves a budget. Cause I actually, I'm actually signin' with too. Yeah, I know that. And, but, you know, as far as me and Gray doin' stuff together, that's kind of a separate thing. So, like, we're like, we have the ability to give our own selves our own budget. You know what I mean? If we just sit down and do what he liked to call the brain, hurt and work. Like, sit down and figure out what do we need to do? Like, we need to do the merch, figure out the marketing, do the photo shoot, do the work, you know what I mean? So, man, we got the trademark, we got the business set up, we did everything we need to do and it's just been goin' very successful. So, shout to that and, so yeah, the music's On The Way. Is there gonna be another Hustle Gang project? I don't know, you know what? I was just about to hit them and say, it's about time for that, because I feel like, especially after Ra-Ra just passed, I feel like it would be a good time for, you know, everybody to get back together and kinda make some music, but everybody kinda doin' that, they don't have, you know, a tip to a comedy. Yeah, of course, yeah. So, he stay on the road, you know, doin' shows and he's also doin' shows just on his own and, like, everybody that was in Hustle Gang, like, shout to Tokyo, you know, she's doin' her thing, she got her whole family and she content-creating. She got, like, four babies now, married and shit, you know? I think, too. I think, too, yeah. But, yeah, and then, like, London Jay, he's writing songs for Lotto, he's doin' his thing, like, his pin game is goin' insane. 100%, yeah. So, you know, everybody from Hustle Gang is essentially, you know, went off and doin' that thing and if they ever call me to come jump back in, I'm with it. But as far as what we got goin' on, me and Gray pushin' what we're doin'. And, yeah, I got a single class soul shaker out, too. Soul shaker, I like it. Come on, shake it like a soul shaker. It don't sound like that, but it's got it. Do you, like, the independent Rob Moore, like, doin' it on your own, I should say, more? Like, how you guys doin' all this together? Were you and Gray? Me, personally, I do, because, obviously, you wish the fundin' was readily accessible, but you really goin' through the process, you know what I'm sayin'? I'm knowin' all the steps of everything from marketin' to just business, period. But when you get shot to the top so quick, you don't even know how you got there. You know what I mean? A lot of artists, when they start crumb, they don't know how to get there. They don't know their way back down. So, I feel like, I tell people to take the stairs because when you get to the top, you gon' be in better shape, you know what I'm sayin'? And tomorrow you'll take the elevator, wow. I think, on the flip side, that's a bar. Wait, I didn't just hit me. That's a bar. You gotta get some shit, Lele. Take the stairs, you gon' be in better shape. That's what I'm sayin'. Cab muscles gon' be big. Ain't no elevator to success. Come on, now. I think on the flip side of that, though, if you never had a label situation, it's hard to, or like a major label situation it's hard to ask, do you like independent or? Because that's all you've had to really experience. But I think getting that independent experience is good for if you ever choose to, because then you know what you don't know, you know what to look out for. Because a lot of artists, they just get blow up, major label come calling, they just sign it. They don't know, like, yo, I don't need to do that. I don't need to pay nobody. I can do my own content. I can do all my own, you know what I'm sayin'? You can cut out what you don't need when you know when you've done that independent route. And it's more rewarding financially if you make it. That's if you can make it, you know what I mean? It's not rewarding financially independently if you don't make it, because you just blew a bunch of money. It makes sense. So that's the thing about the label side. People get mad at labels, I don't be mad at labels because where else can you go where they'll give you money and if you don't sell, you don't necessarily, like if you go get a job, you don't gotta pay them back out your job money. You only gotta pay them back from music money, you know what I mean? Like, versus if you go get a loan from a bank, they gon' get it out your ad no matter where you go. You go get a job, we still want our money. A label, like, you know what I mean? Like, if, like, tip, I'm probably still in the hole with tip. He not askin' me, yo, I need that money back out your brand, out your brand or nothing. Like, labels can't even do that, you know what I mean? So unless you in like a 360 or somethin', and I don't know if I'm in the hole with tip, I'm probably pay back, but yeah, I'm just sayin' like labels- You mean I better get you for the goddamn money now. Labels are else. Where else can you go to where somebody makes an investment and you, where if it don't work, you don't have to pay it back? You know what I mean? You're in the hole with them as far as music, but if you like, oh fuck it, I don't wanna rap no more, I'm gonna go start a business. They can't touch that money, you know what I mean? So it's like, I have a give and take thing with labels, but I would prefer to make it on the indie rock, which is what we're doing. And shout out to platforms like this that help us speak what we got going on so that we can keep us further and further away from having to depend on them. Yes, sir. Bruh, I mean, come on. I heard what you said earlier, but I know y'all would let us at least have four bars for y'all lead. Can't we get four bars? Just until we get on our feet. Don't listen to that, Nick. You gonna get on the way? No, no, no, no, no, no. But we're gonna play that. What's the question, bro? Flippin' these beats like Acrobat's put facts on wax, no racks on racks. I jumping this Vic and I gas on tracks, them 16s coming with tax on that. I jumping this clip my hat turned back since government dropped that crack on blacks. We struggled with feeling love and legitimate. Now I knew drug is the internet. Eat without knowing what they put internet. That'll put your ass in the ground. Can't take steak when they pass that around. You know they been out here jabbing the cows. Whoa, allegedly, because I had a steak like yesterday. Please don't tell me they poison the recipe. And you mean to tell me the FDA is an always around for taking me? So much blood on their hand from inequities. They approve of the food that they make of you, sit, turn around, and they sell you with enemies. That's a felony, boy, I be feeling some kind of way. Gray, I see you got the time today, but hey, they tell me where I find the place. They all know where I find the cakes. Yo, you can also off go out with that one, bro. Bro, that was awesome, man. That was awesome. They jabbing the cow. Music came in, it kind of... Yeah, what was that about? I'm trying to find a simple, that's what it's about. Oh, okay, okay, okay. I'm counting the misses in my head. But nah, I appreciate it, though. But yeah, nah, I mean, we just been, we done found our groove, and we speak to our audience like what they want to hear. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's not about looking at what Drake is doing, like, oh, how can I get a million fans like that? Like, no, it's about, yo, if you got 30 people rocking with you, super serve them 30 people, and that's gonna turn into 60 and 90 and speak to them because it's people that want to hear what you got to say. You know what I mean? And we can get frustrated off likes and views, and the algorithm beating us all down. Like we, you don't never know what video's gonna do well, what's gonna, you just gotta be consistent, you know what I mean? And consistent is what we say, consistency is a main thing because you're not gonna always be motivated to do it. But when you're consistent, that gets the motivation, that gets the, that's your motivation, you know what I mean? Like sometimes you do it, sometimes you gotta do it, unmotivated, you know what I mean? We do that, damn it, every week we be like, gotta do it again. But then when we put it out and it's like, you get the reaction, you're like, oh, these people are feeding off of this. Like you gotta keep feeding your bass, you know what I'm mean? You get to do it. Yeah, right, yeah. And that's another thing, we get to look at it like, it's a blessing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's a real, yeah. And it's really doing what you hate to do, like you love it. If you can do that, you can master, I've heard that so many times, but if you can master that, man, discipline and consistency, it gets you where you're trying to go wherever. Perk, whatever. Perk, you know what I'm saying? University is to consistency. Yeah. Oh, daddy is right there, man. Hey, y'all give it up for these guys one more time, man, for us. And pray, man, yo. Take us on out, T-Rex. Let's take some pictures, Shay. Come on. Hey, so look, this our single, right? This our single. Hey. Hey, by the way, you know what I mean, right? Hey, hey, hey, y'all got something on the way. If you haven't seen it, I know it's on the way. Bringing up with a pocket full of cream, I know it's on the way. T-Top on the colors, A3, I know it's on the way. Just got me away, you better see that business on the way.