 She says, what do you see? What do you see with these people? I say, oh they're just adorable. They're just like two big teddy bears and they're just so adorable. They're just like, if I could tell you what their heart is telling me, it's just telling me love me, adore me just as I am. You know, just accept me, just for who I am. You know, don't buy the mask. Don't put any faith whatsoever in the mask. This is what everyone we meet is calling out. That inside they're like this little child that's like saying, please just love me. I'm suffocating because I don't have enough love. I want to soak it in. And what a joy for me. I show up and it's like, I know my task is just to love. No judgment whatsoever. No sense of trying to talk to them. Because it was just, it was like feeling she needed to get in the metaphysics of overeating and why you overeat and what, you know, try to kind of get in the lecture and everything. But she, she had the feeling there was no opening for that. Like, they just looked at her like shocked if she would have even mentioned weight or diet drink or whatever, they would have been horrified. Like, what is she doing in our house, you know? And so, but it was a good experience. Again, for personal, I sit down and talk. I said, no, it's, we just, we just were told by Jesus in the Beatitudes, judge not. You know, we don't have to try to figure out this scheme. We just come back to those three steps of forgiveness. Start off with your projection. She was, she was feeling, you know, that she had a lot of conditioning about weight and what that meant to be overweight and, and suffering, you know, all of her beliefs and suffering. All that was going on in her mind and she was projecting it onto them that they were seemingly playing the part, acting it out. As if they trained for the part. She got that. Oh, curse is coming. That's just Janet now. She put in another extra 50, 60 pounds. Kind of like Robert De Niro did for the boxing movie. You know, Jack Dempsey, he had to put on all this extra weight. Robert De Niro had to put on a big belly, you know, for, for this boxing movie. He thought, do weight training, but it's almost like they're just, we're all part of the setup. And then they said, can we turn up the wheezing? You could do that, you know, for her. It's really cranking up there. And then, and then she'll really get in touch with her beliefs about health. About what health is. She had to forgive all of her beliefs and concepts on health and open up to the, to the Jesus Christ definition of health, which is inner peace. That's how Jesus defines health, inner peace. That's true. That's true. Judgement, yes. It's when the cosmos was, when the big bang soon to happen and the cosmos was projected out. It was, it was healed instantaneously. It was, it wasn't even a, it wasn't. That's how Mormon took the Holy Spirit to handle the belief in separation. It was just, it was simultaneously handled. That's why the third step is, oh believe me, the Holy Spirit's not struggling with, with the forgiveness. As soon as it's offered over, it's gone, instantaneously. It's like a, it's like a little bead of water hitting a hot frying pan. It's, you know, it's gone. It's dissolved. It's evaporated. The instant that drop of water hits that hot frying pan, it's gone. So, so that's important to realize in the sense that if there must be some kind of judgment and the ego invented judgment of taking the cosmic explosion of images, we could say, the cosmos and then making hierarchies, arranging the images into preferences or constellations based on judgment. You know, that's what judgment is. It's to make a hierarchy of illusions. Thereby, completely wiping out the idea that it's all one illusion. It's just, that's what preferences and judgments do. They make a hierarchy of what is all the same. So then Jesus comes along and he seemed to not buy into that hierarchy. The lame could walk. The blind could see. What do we got here? Palsy, no problem. Leprosy, no problem. Oh, here's one that has demons. It's got demons in it. No problem. Good part. We have a cold. We have, you know, epilepsy. It just doesn't matter what the problem seemed to be to Christ. They were all the same. They were all the same illusion, ego. And he had overcome the belief in the ego. So that's why it didn't really matter. Even that one story of the woman who comes up and she just touches the hem of his garment from behind. He goes, oh, who touched me? And she's made whole. Just from touching the hem of his garment because he's just radiating the sense of all, of oneness and love and innocence. And there is no problem that can enter into that. So what a great coffin. When you think about, this is the calling of your life, is to just join with that same essence, that same Christ mind. What a great calling. You couldn't possibly have a higher calling than to do that. And forgiveness is the process we're working with. It's simply not, you're not just denying the reactions that happen. You know, you're just like a good psychotherapist. The reactions that seem to happen would what be what we would call in psychotherapy the presenting problem. The therapist always listens to the patient give the presenting problem. And usually it's through invitation. Tell me about yourself. The therapist. Open-ended questions. Open-ended questions. Tell me about yourself. And then come the presenting problems. And there may be quite a lot of presenting problems. And when you're working with the patient, you never go for the jugular. You know, if they seem to have like a major issue with their mother or their father. You know, you could work on other issues and have some gains where they start to loosen from those hurts and grievances to come towards the central problem. It's the same with us when we're working with people. If you go for the ego, if you go for the jugular, it's like that clip we saw called The Thaw when some of you might now see the whole movie but Captain Janeway basically tries to remove the environment from the ego. He tries to take away the whole artificial environment. And it's fine until the ego notices that it's happening. And then it's like a red alert. You have all defenses come up and they have to shut down the attempt because the ego is too threatened. So the Holy Spirit has to work very carefully with the mind in dismantling and dispelling this ego starting with the presenting problems, bringing it back. And Suze is right. Jesus had just come here and said, this world is an illusion. Good afternoon, good evening. He just disappeared. It wouldn't have made much of a murmur. A couple of people just went, is a crazy man here. And it was an apparition. He was just here for a couple of minutes and he said this crazy thing. The world is an illusion. Then he said, good afternoon, good evening and good night. He took a bow and poofy was gone. Okay, what do you have for dinner? It's like, no, Jesus took three years of public ministry to really say there's something here at the core that we've got to get at. Why would he have told all those caribals? Why would it have been so patiently to sit with people at their dinner time and go when they came into the fields to relax in a friendly, respectful way, say, talk about these things. And even when he did that, it was still deep. I mean, it was deep for the apostles. Most of them were fishermen and they're not used to getting into such deep metaphysics. And he was telling lots of caribals to try to make it as understandable as possible. And that's what I've tried to do with my life. I just tell the caribals, respond to people as they question, you know, kind of meet them right where they're at as best as I can, and then keep coming at it from different angles and then publish it to the world. Put it all over the internet. Oh, I hear YouTube's hot. Okay, good, I'll start doing YouTube's or MySpace or they give you free space on there.