 Live with some of these episodes shout out also to bend up barry saying he was in the chat first We see you sitting here. We're excited to have everybody to be joining us again for episode five Myra and Dolan joined by the fabulous live moods live. How you doing? I'm doing great I know time flies when you're having fun. We're already on episode five, which is crazy, but enjoying every single second of it Decent bedding weekend last weekend, but I'm noticing a pattern with myself in the NFL right now Hot cold hot cold. So if I was a little cold last week, I'm hoping I'm hot again this week And we'll talk about bets in a little bit, but hoping that the hot streak is coming There was someone in the chat on twitch J Torres 184 asked who else didn't pick the Patriots to cover I did pick the Patriots to cover so I can't play that that was definitely a hot take and I Definitely took some heat for that one, but I wrote with my gut I stayed true to my to my bed and it worked out for me So We kind of talked about that a little bit There was so much money and you kind of brought the point that Vegas probably wasn't going to lose on that Obviously we had I think 90 95 to 98 percent of the money on Bucks money line. So that made sense that it hit but in terms of covering as well We had heavy heavy money on that. So I thought it made sense Sense that the Patriots were able to win that game. We'll talk a little bit about that But over the weekend you also did some fun stuff. You're in West Virginia I was I got to go see my brother. He is a senior out there My mom's side of the family is also from West Virginia. So it was fun to go out there West Virginia in the fall is so beautiful It's like a very underrated state because it's like people think it's like a Hickville, which it is I'm not gonna lie, but it's very beautiful like lots of hills and it's it was very very pretty So the the weather was perfect for football. Unfortunately, West Virginia did lose to Texas Tech. So that wasn't great And I had the mouth off to somebody who was talking sideways to my mother. So that was also not super great, but Nonetheless, it was good and you went to Penn State. You're on water. I was up at Penn State. My brother is up there He's a junior. I honestly wasn't going up to see him. Although I love him to death I went up and I spoke to a few classes about sports betting and just about my career I graduated in 2018 from Penn State. So that was fun And then while I was up there one cool thing that we're doing this weekend is Penn State versus Iowa Spread the love battle. So we're moving the line depending on how many bets we take on Penn State How many bets we're taking on Iowa every 500 bets we take on Penn State We move the line one point and then for Iowa every 100 bets we take we move The point one or move the line one point of paper for Iowa and we're gonna see which can get higher So hopefully being from Penn State will be able to boost that line all the way up I love it. I love it. Um, yeah, let's jump into the let's jump into the first segment I'm actually the most excited about this segment. It's called around the horn Uh, lots of drama going on in the sports world It feels like and I feel like we we first have to address The urban meyer scandal. Okay, you and I kind of talked about this a little bit We talked about this for like 55 minutes on the phone. Live it after like keying off There's a lot. We need to save this for the show There's a lot to talk about and if I'm sure you guys have all seen the viral video of Um urban meyer in a bar in Cincinnati bumping and grinding with a young blonde chick, okay Um to me that was not the point of concern for me And I know we kind of talked about this a little bit But my bigger concern was when have you ever seen a coach not fly back home with their team now You and I also discussed the possibility of could this have looked less bad If he wasn't coaching a team that was currently winless But regardless my take on it is more from the standpoint of this is a business trip Or it should be treated like a business trip. You fly to your to the city that you're playing in You do your job you leave it was very bizarre to me that his team went home after losing Um, they're now 0 and 4 and their coach stayed behind for some beers and some bumping and grinding It was weird to me. I've never seen a coach not go back home with their team So I thought that was a little bizarre But you kind of brought up a really great point about would it look different if he Wasn't coaching a team that had a losing record and I would love they got the win on Thursday night Yeah, they got the win Thursday night football. Um, please comment what you guys think if they had gotten the win Would it have been different? I think More so meaning that the memes and things coming out would have been like urban Meyer got his first win as an NHL as an HL Jesus my god As an NFL head coach and kind of went from there and still made fun It would still have been as bad as it was right the video was pretty bad my Question for urban Meyer is at what point did you think that a video is not going to surface Of you out at the bar even if that girl wasn't bumping and grinding there would have been a video that came out There would have been taking pictures with you So you knew you were going to be spotted there and then you knew what was going to come out all these different things About why is he there which we kind of get because oh, I was stating one out But at the same time you didn't get on the plate with your team So obviously you got to imagine trevor larnes is like what the heck man This is my first year. I'm oh and four. I'm not you know getting any wins here with this team The coach is nowhere to be found which is terrible because everything starts from the head down And then He's bumping and grinding like you said. I mean he wasn't really grinding on her I don't know what he was doing with his hands. Like I don't know if he was protecting himself I think he was grabbing some booty is what I think From my angle it didn't look like he was just sitting there and that's just the truth And I have to address to his apology He said I just apologize to the team and staff for being a distraction. That is not an apology No, there was no ownership there. I apologize for being a distraction No, what you should do is apologize for what you did you should not have been back in Cincinnati You should not have let your losing team fly home by themselves. You should not have been Right. Like I just don't even understand Regardless of the bumping and grinding like Why are you there like you should be at home You should be on that plane coming up with a game plan as to how you're going to get your team to finally win a game That's my perspective. Like I don't understand why he was even at the bar But now you've got some blondie doing the jersey turnpike right in front of you. I mean for god's sake It's so irresponsible. It is so irresponsible. And I I read a tweet as well It sounds like His team and his organization Has a little bit of a lack of trust right now and and there was some quotes coming out that their trust actually He never really had any like they kind of felt like when he got there first year I mean, it was his first year You would think that he'd be walking on eggshells trying to do the best that he could do trying to be a lot of critics Wrong because people thought this from the before he was you know When they were just talking about hiring him that it was going to be an issue Also, his wife's tweet was a little odd to me. Okay. She tweeted Meanwhile, I'm babysitting she quote tweeted a picture of him and said meanwhile I'm babysitting but then her hashtag was bizarre It was something about like he deserved a night out No If I was urban Meyer's wife, I would have made the biggest joke out of it Because I would try to like make light of it in some type of way I would not defend him with he deserved a night out because honestly he did not deserve a night out But I would have quote tweeted it and said damn He's going to really enjoy sleeping on the couch for the next month Like I would have done something that like Everything would have gone viral on my end and made light of it because obviously she's going to stay with him If I found out my husband was bumping and grinding in Ohio And it wasn't me Also, mrs. Meyer real quick Mrs. Meyer quick question for you. Um, this is this is to mrs. Meyer. If you're not her keep scrolling quick question for you, babe What makes you think he deserved a night out his team is oh and four hun I'm just trying to wrap my head around what makes him deserve that because he coaches an nfl team He's under a lot of stress if you're a real bella checks wife Right, so we're the other coaches if you're the cardinals coach Coach's wife. You can tweet hashtag deserved a night out Okay, lots of grind going in with the only undefeated team left standing shout out to the arizona cardinals If you're urban Meyer with the jackson bill jack wires who are oh and four What makes you think your husband deserves a night out? I'm sorry. It doesn't make sense either way Urban Meyer is under some heat for sure. I would like to know from you before we move on Do you think it's a wrap for him on this jack wires team? Do you think it's over for him? Do you think the oh one's like record plus this scandal? Do you think it's like I think it's more of a situation kind of when you I mean this is different in ways because philadelphia eagles And you know the locker room apparently with doug peterson and course and went all this stuff As soon as the coach starts feuding with the locker room and you don't have the locker room Like it's a wrap like any franchise is getting rid of that head coach and I you saw that in the NBA as well last season So I kind of just think more so. Yeah, of course the owner is going to back him up in this moment and say We believe that he's going to change his I let me actually find the exact wording that he said He said I'm confident he will deliver deliver on what? Um, sorry not to be rude, but yeah, I mean he said he's dressed Dresses with urban obviously specific staying between them I mean, we all know the specifics were like don't do this again stay with the team get on the plane You've got gab gowdy in the twitch chat if you guys have not watched She has a show with um brianna. I don't know when it airs. I'm sorry. I talk to our tuesdays tuesdays Tuesdays and they it's called unsportsmanlike conduct. They talk all things sports. It's great They have the best personalities, but she said if they win this weekend, they are gonna praise him yuck I agree that is they have to win this weekend and I feel like I will just based on this like urban's going to be like Oh my he's his ass is so far off the chair because it's so hot that He's getting he has he has bliss. He's a second degree burn on his butt cheeks right now. Okay, seriously Jay torres also said he apologized for the consequences. Not the action. I agree with that That's one of those situations where you're apologizing because you got caught Had you not been caught you wouldn't apologize to your team for being in cincinati But you got busted and now you're apologizing. We would have known he was in cincinati because again It would have been tweeted out a picture with a surface Like he was just at the bar somebody would have posted a selfie coming up to him But maybe you know the liquor was getting to him. It didn't look like he was drinking beer. So Who knows? He's a weirdo, but he kind of talked about oh bill bella check could you know deserve a night off Obviously in years previous you have to talk about the fox barrow game And I say it with affiliates and I'm sorry fox barrow. I love it. I love the way you say it I don't want to say it. Can you say it fox burrow? Fox burrow you say fox burrow I love it. Come on. I'm trying to actually get out fox borough Okay, that's a little much fox borough Fox borough think about it like you I know my it's the a is like bathroom bad It's it's the a it's and I know there's not an a in it, but it's it's that sound. Um, but fox Burrow burrow like like job or a gerbera. Yeah fox burrow. Okay, there you go And fox burrow There we tom brady and bill bella chick did the hug awkward hug None like in grade school and everybody like this when it was awkward, you know what that is Is that the awkward turtle the awkward turtle? I remember that Oh, I remember it was a little you know I didn't expect much of a hug. It was quick. It was unwarmed. Didn't feel like there was a lot of mushy gushy moments right there But let's just say I think people are reading into the hug a little too much like the reality is They felt that loves tom brady tom brady loves him, but the reality is bill bella check lost Okay, that doesn't ever feel good. It doesn't matter who you lose to it doesn't feel good I think we're reading into the hug a little bit too much in my opinion What did you want them to do stand there and caress each other for 20 seconds? Like let's move on Like we're moving on bella checks getting back to the locker room to his team Okay, we didn't need them to sit there in each other's arms for 45 seconds We just didn't so I think we're reading into that a little too much I do love though because we're we're waiting for it like after we knew this or we were just kind of waiting for it Absolutely, I will say though. I absolutely loved like I'm getting goosebumps just thinking about it The way that the stadium was chanting brady when he walked out. I thought that was incredible because they booed him But yeah, I mean, you know, there's a little bit of both, of course Obviously, but I did love that there was a moment of respect because I said this last week before this game that brady doesn't Oh, this this organization anything he did what he needed to do with them for 20 seasons He went above and beyond and had the most successful dynasty in american football with this patriot's team So he didn't owe them a thing And so I love that they kind of gave him that appreciation because again in my opinion there there shouldn't be any animosity He moved on to do something else and it shouldn't be a problem and shout out to the patriots They covered the spread to be honest with you. They should have won outright That doink at the end definitely uh was not what we all wanted to see if you had patriots moneyline But uh, it was a good game. Do I think brady was playing full steam ahead? Absolutely not Weather conditions and I was gonna say rain was a huge part of it But even still there was a part of me that was watching and I'm like Hmm at the end of the day though, you guys remember we are Human like there's no way that he wasn't overwhelmed with some type of emotion as Sir Channing brady And he's in different uniform and he was ever you know, so long I don't know how anybody would be able to handle that not have some jitters, but overall great game I'm kind of glad in a weird way that it's over because it's all So much hype Well, and you know what months and months It's this it's it's essentially the way that I handicapped that game I did not look at it from a defense perspective and offense perspective I looked at it from a vegas perspective and The fact that we were just building this hype around it tom brady trying to break an nfl record Uh, you know tom brady returning to fox bro There was just so the narrative that was being drawn out for so long was overwhelming And I think again like you said tom brady is a human being I think a lot of people thought that he would handle those emotions on more of the side of he's going to go ballistic He's going to go off. He's going to shut it down when really it was like that was a tough day for him That had to have been emotionally difficult. So for him Getting a win was all he cared about and he didn't care about Going ballistic, you know, obviously I do think rain played a played a factor But emotionally I think that was just a lot going on that day. I mean he even said in this post game interview He's like, I'm not going to cry right now. I've been doing that all week. I've got that out of my system so I think it was a lot of emotions like you said and I am glad the game's over. I'm ready to move on. Craig Williams on youtube said game was boring And I I kind of kind of agree a little bit with that because obviously we had such high expectations But let's move on now to the kairi vaccination Conversation that we got to continue from last week. We have to continue the nba is right around the corner, which again I'm so excited. I'm so excited I was on the phone with erin though you guys. I'm making my morning coffee. I'm like Is it true are the rumors true that the regular season starts in two weeks? She like actually called me and she's like is it I'm like, yes, it's true I almost went into cardiac arrest because I was like, oh my god If I feel overwhelmed and tired now Buckle up Olivia moody because there is a lot that's about to be happening nba for those of you that are new follows to me and maybe didn't follow me last season That's what I'm good at. Like I've been doing pretty well with the nfl. But nba is my sport. I love it. I live for it I breathe for it. It's everything to me. So Now I'm like on all these emotions of oh my god It's like right here like it's about to start but nonetheless kairi Irving. Okay I we I called you we talked about this a little bit and I said I saw this article We have multiple articles that we looked at but basically was talking about how The nba association agreed to reducing the pay of player salaries for each game that an unvaccinated player misses because of the local COVID-19 vaccine mandates Essentially two cities right now new york and san francisco have COVID-19 mandates that could impact players on the nix the nets and the warriors Well, kairi Irving is on the nets And I I read this number and I was like my jaw dropped to the floor But then erin checked me and she's like that's not a lot to him But it's a lot to you and I was like you're right Um, but essentially because of these mandates and the home games that kairi Irving would have to miss because he's unvaccinated He would lose roughly $380,000 per game which would become more than 15 million if he does not get vaccinated at any point this season Yeah, I mean at this point I'm kind of just thinking of that opening night when they played the box Actually love bucks money line because they're playing at home now because I think kairi won't play in that game And katie like what do these guys care about opening night have them probably won't even want to play at that point I just i'm just you know kairi same old same old. I know andrew wiggins gave in he ended up getting vaccinated Like we talk about numbers because I cannot digest and fathom 15 million dollars because you would never hear my name Again, I'd be out on an island. See you adios off social media off the grid But for him, I just don't know I don't think there's anybody that could convince him to Change his mindset the only thing that I was kind of thinking and I don't know if this would ever happen But sometimes we we have heard talks about this But if we did send ben Simmons there and we got kairi Irving it'd be awesome to have a shooter And then they could have another defensive player and not have another shooter because there's obviously they have Hardin and um katie as well So I kind of feel like that would be a landing spot only because if he's unvaccinated In philly, he's able to go to new york and play those games. It's just if you're a player From that state so that's where it gets all hairy and let me talk about that because there is a little bit of There is a kind of a loophole in this situation Obviously new york and san francisco have those guidelines. Um that are impacting those specific players on those specific teams. However It's not applying to visiting players. So to me again, I don't disagree with saying you need to be vaccinated to enter our building As if if you're playing as a home team, whatever But if you're not doing it for visiting players, what's the difference in my opinion? I am not against the rule that they have put in place But if you're gonna if it's gonna be a rule that's hoping to help keep people healthy and safe and And reduce the spread then it needs to be applied to every person that enters that building All it takes is one visiting player who didn't know he was sick to get people sick or whatever It like whatever it may be like you don't I mean, I know people who are vaccinated Who are getting coveted who are like just as sick as I was like I this thing It's so case-to-case that you just don't know how you're going to respond. I had coveted. I thought nothing in coveted I made jokes about it was like I'm not I'm not going to be as sick as everybody is saying My ass was sick for four literally I was in bed for two and a half weeks And then I couldn't move and then I was sick for at least two months after like I just never Recovered the brain fog at everything so it's going to affect everyone differently So I understand not wanting to put that in your body. I ended up getting the vaccine It was only bad for like seven eight hours and then I was absolutely fine Um, but it just I understand not wanting to get the shot and understanding of different beliefs But the same time it's just like We were talking about this and maybe this is right. Maybe it's wrong You just kind of don't have a choice. Like I want to go to games. I want to go to events I want to go into filling in see my friends and people are going to bars and go into things I have to do it. It's mandatory to show my vaccine card So for that reason because I don't want to sit inside and be lonely anymore I got the vaccine and for him. I kind of just feel like dude Just kind of like get the shot. It's like just do it and here I think million dollars. I would probably put all the shots in my arms My thing is too a little bit with kairi Irving I think I would feel a little less annoyed by what by this whole vaccination thing and how many home games He's gonna have to miss and all and all this money He's gonna have to spend because even last season, you know, he had more pto days than your average teacher I mean for god's sake the guy was missing so many different games and and taking personal time and again It's personal time. It's none of my business. I know that for one of them He was at a birthday party for a family member and he wasn't following protocol and he was fine for it It's like if you hadn't been so Disconnected it felt like last year and kind of just like Whatever about things and especially about missing games. It kind of feels like a slap in the face to your team a little bit Who's showing up doing what they need to do Every home game Like that's hard. So I I think for me with kairi Irving I kind of have a feeling right now with him that it's just like How bad do you really like how much do you actually care about this program? Like is it just time for you to retire and call it quits? I mean at this point You just don't seem like you love it. It doesn't seem like you have passion for it You're not putting your team first. He's he's definitely in my opinion. Not a team player. So I would say Right now, that's kind of how I feel about it that if he had a better attitude and and his season played out a little differently Last year around all this covid stuff. I feel better about it But just kind of seems like he's got a bad attitude around the whole thing and and he's not really acting like a team player But again, that's my personal opinion It is what it is Agreed. Okay. Let's um kind of rip through some other things that are going on We want to talk about the nfl and then we're also going to get to our segment This or that and talk a little bit of nba, but for the nfl. Do you have any leans for this week? I know you had tweeted out three I'll kind of rip through some of the games that are like and then we'll give the girls who bet best bet Yes, I have three leans that I like right now chargers money line I think this chargers team has weapons on both sides of the ball one being their defense Defensive minded coach and brandon staley and also justin herbert has been very exciting to watch I think that he is a great qb Um, he's been electric to watch and and I so I think that they are strong on both sides of the ball I really like them to win in week five. I like bills plus three as well up against this chief's team That's our girls who bet best bet. Yes. Yes. I know that the bills have Or I know that the chiefs looked better last week I'm saying better and not great because they were going up against the eagles So I don't want people to get too excited about the fact that oh patty mahomes was back on his ish He had five touchdown passes. Whatever. He's going up against the eagles. Okay. No offense, erin, you know, I know I was at the tailgate. I was actually I consumed a lot of vodka that day. Yeah, great. That's awesome. I'm jealous. Um We're doing that at eight o'clock, but so I think people are kind of getting Re-excited about this chief's team and I'm not there yet They've been they've been pretty brutal against the spread this season up until last game and again and in 2020 as well So I'm not sold on this chief's team. Uh, I don't think that they're as strong as they have been in the past The bills I'm not buying them yet. What'd you say? The bills can score That's the other less true game. It's been wowed and the chief's defense has not been great So I think the bills are going to give them a run for their money I know they're playing at home, but still and the chiefs never cover No, the chief again Yeah, like you said the chief's defense has been tough They've given up like 450 yards per game and the bills have given up just 235 yards and 11 points per game And the chiefs have struggled very very badly up against strong offenses And like you said bills has a very strong offense right now So I like the bills to cover and potentially went outright But that is our girls who bet best bet is bills plus three and then finally I must hate myself because I'm taking an under. I don't know why I choose to sweat out unders on a sunday It's literal torture, but the broncos stealers game I think the broncos deal put some pressure on big ben Plus the sealers have quite a few banged up wide receivers right now And then on the other side the pittsburgh d with tj y and fits patrick putting some pressure on denver It'll make them hard to move the ball down the field And if we get drew lock God only knows what we have what happens when we get drew lock if we get him in week five So I am taking the under in that one. I think that's a super low scoring matchup So those are my three leans for week five. Okay All right. All right. Um, what do you like? Let's see. I'm going down the board right now low key Love falcons minus three, which is such a terrible bet But only because I think the new york jacks after winning last week They're going to keep that line close again the falcons are terrible too, but for some reason I like that line I also like the saints minus two and a half. I think they could get it done I would honestly probably just take saints money line minus one 32 if you throw them into a parlay And then one of my favorites obviously is bills like we just talked about Love it. I also love the 49ers plus five and a half I'm not saying they're going to win out right against the cardinals Although it's so hard to remain undefeated in the last undefeated team right now But I think the 49ers have a shot to cover there Right in the chat guys what you guys like for this week if you're looking at any look ahead lines And other than that, those are kind of just the ones that stand out to me right now The charges also Moneyline minus one 26 It's not bad I like the chargers. I think they look they look oh packers bangles I think is a trap game the bangles I love taking them every time they're at like three and a half and whatnot But I feel like the packer should be longer than minus three. I think that might be a trap game So you guys you guys know she's the trap queen I seem to I will text her and I will say I'm liking this game and she's like up feels like a trap game sure as You know what every single week I I watched that game and I'm like holy god I am so glad I listened to her and stayed away from this crap because Wow brutal brutal anyway brutal brutal. All right, let's get the next thing we wanted to talk about segment three this or That Okay, let's just alternate. I'll I'll do one and then you do one Go for it Okay This one's funny This or that Wear a cowboy's jersey for a straight week or wear a bin ben Simmons jersey for a straight week Honestly probably wear a ben Simmons jersey for a week because I feel like what people would yell at me would be funny If I wore a Dallas it'd be very I want to punch you in the face Fair enough. I will not argue with that. Okay. That's that question. I don't know if I could have an answer But let me hear yours rich and famous Or rich and unknown Oh rich and unknown Rich and unknown and it's so funny because I I actually do enjoy what I do. I love putting my face out there, but I think What comes with money Just chilling with some cash Little privacy little like you said going on an island not being known because we put our face out there to bake money And if you just had money and didn't have to do that, it probably peaceful I'd have that hair on a violin. I'd have no makeup on I'd be in sweatpants every day Yeah, you know the drill. Okay. Um Eat the same meal for the rest of your life or never eat your favorite food again Well, that's hard probably Never eat my uh, never eat my favorite food again What's your favorite chocolate's my favorite food and it's like not great for me. So I could probably go without I don't consider that a food ma'am. Okay. What are you considering? I literally have the same meal every day every morning I have two eggs and an avocado at lunch I have a salad and at dinner I have one big sweet potato and chocolate. I have the same thing every day I do not really like pause pause pause pause Probably other people tell me you did not Tell me you did not just say that for dinner you have a sweet potato and chocolate for dinner Yes, so like I I'll have some potato fries or I'll just have a regular soup potato That's yeah Wow boy, are we different because let me tell you something. I'm about to Absolutely annihilate a bowl of chili after this episode The you and I could not be more different Okay, if someone said dinner is served and put a plate in front of me with a sweet potato and chocolate I would punch him in the face. That's like my favorite You're so weird. You're so weird. All right. I can't do that. This or that watch mlb games for a full day or watch NHL games for a full day NHL for sure and let me tell you something I don't want people to get this misconception that I'm this big and mlb hater What you grew up watching is what you typically enjoy as an adult. We never had mlb on the screen We just didn't it was it was big time football and basketball people That's what we've always been my brother also never really played baseball. He was big in football He was big in base or in basketball So I'm not an mlb hater because there have been times where I have cashed out on the mlb I'm pretty good at handicapping it when I want to be to be honest with you but I will say playoff baseball is a completely different story. It is way more exciting, but regular season mlb It takes too long to get any playoffs. I'm like, what are we doing here? I'm ready I need to see like I love hockey because they stay fight. It's one of my favorite hockey I will say because if I were able to follow the puck a little bit better. I would like hockey a lot more I love that thing and I'm like, where even is it? Where is the puck right now? Is it on? Even on but I would definitely go with hockey I would Do we want to do one more? Yeah, go for it TV series or movie TV series. I don't want any movies Name famous and I haven't I haven't we're on the same page with that. We're on the same page I look how cashed out said Aaron is extremely weird Guys, I mean, I have like the littlest quirks that are just so damn weird Motive jack said that dinner is wild, right? I mean, I'm not the only person it's because I can't cook No, like I genuinely cannot cook. I can't follow the instructions It never tastes right So I make a sweet potato when I cut it up and I make sweet potato fries every single night and every night I put either cayenne pepper or then I do garlic night or then I switch it up Did you know I can't cook. It's not because that's what I love. It's just I don't Did you know at Trader Joe's because I went today they have literal frozen meals all my god I know I know but they don't taste right live. They don't taste right I'm sick of you I can't even all right My last one for you. Would you rather date kairi erving? But nobody knows about it because you know, he's a little weird Or would you rather date ben Simmons and post about it everywhere knowing that people are going to be like Oh, he can't hit a shot. You know I think I would have to go with kairi erving because I have roasted ben Simmons way too many times publicly That we would have issues inside of the relationship How many times I have talked badly about that man I would definitely want nobody to know But I know for a fact like dinner with kairi erving is probably like So intellectual and deep and he's probably like throwing conspiracy theories in my face and I would be like, dude I'd be so into it. I'm so I was actually just talking to rob before you jumped on about house Sometimes at night. I'll be laying there and I I watch too much conspiracy stuff So that I'll be up at night and I'll be anxious and the other night I was I was saying to him today that everyone's in their own reality and when you're sitting there You're like, oh my god, like I'm actually going to be dead in the ground one day And if you sit okay and dead at night and think about that it's it's you can go I would rather not have nine tears. Thank you so much You're psychotic. Okay. I was thinking about these things of like aliens and um, My absolutely believe in them. My favorite conspiracy is the fact that drugs are illegal because they take They show us what life is actually supposed to be like Oh, like mushrooms and stuff like that likes like a debt like the ones that make you like like Their passions through doing that. I know people personally who said they found their passions through mushrooms, and I'm like Can't relate I I remember vividly. I had a friend once that told me they went on this like stunning hike while they were on Some sort of psychedelic drug. I have no idea. They're like, it was the coolest thing ever This dude was walking through a park in a neighborhood. I'm like You thought you were in candy land and I'm here to tell you right now You were in the most ghetto park I've ever seen in my lifetime So I'm not sure if that's delusional or if I need to get on your level. I don't know Can't sometimes you see people in there in that state and you're Not and it's it's it can be a little freaky But anyways, that was a fun dessert that um, you know, I'm sure was going at it All right, let's also talk about the nba because that is coming back There are some markets available in the pandal sports book that we could get into a lot of big things that people talk about Obviously before the season same thing with the nfl is futures Personally for that I would wait until the middle of the season just because a lot of times If you wanted to bet on the mbp, for example right now, you don't know how many games these top players are actually Going to play we saw katie miss a lot of time Then we saw in bead miss some time when we thought he was going to win it Obviously you'll get you won it last year Just but obviously not winning the nba title or anything like that So you kind of have to wait and see how much these players are actually going to play before you bet into that market And then also one of the ones we wanted to talk about was defensive player of the year I know Ben Simmons is still up there on the board even though rudigo bears the favorite right now It's going to be interesting to see where he goes. I know right now There were some rumors surrounding him in terms of potentially going to indiana I know he just sold his home in the philly. Everyone was talking about that his 3.1 million dollar I don't know a penthouse. I I guess But it'll be interesting to see like some of these players I don't I wouldn't bet obviously right now and ben Simmons I'm not saying that as a hater just because we don't really know where he's going right Maybe the sixers sit him. We're not really sure yet. So there's definitely a Way to bet this I don't think you have this but I do out here in colorado You can actually bet on which team ben Simmons is going to go to The favorite right now is the timber wolves at plus 195. I saw fandal had a post on instagram That there are some rumors circulating about the pacer. So some good value there at plus 4 60 if you think that's where he's headed Are there 76ers on there? 76ers are not on here That is interesting because before they were and they took that off. It was 16 not on there anymore. Okay The third favorite is rockets at plus 550 Then it's the kings at plus 750 and that is tied with the nuggets as well at plus 750. So help me god Don't oh my gosh I'm just excited to the cool thing about betting on the nba and I said this to live on the phone Because building up to the nfl you're like, let's go week one week two week three and now we're at week five I'm like, okay. I have to wait seven days and then I feel terrible because I'm being awful my bets I mean not waiting seven days because you want to know football and Thursday football But still you feel terrible for a week when you have a bad sunday Whereas with the nba you can bet so many different props obviously and so many different games per day So if you're going a bad streak, you're just like, oh, I'll pick it up tomorrow and we'll get back on the wagon Absolutely. I also wanted to point out when I talked with erin. There were two bets that kind of stuck out to me Most improved player of the year I saw some good value in jaren jackson jr at plus 2400 He was very very solid for this grizzlies team And I know erin and I talked about how great this grizzlies team was against the spread last year They are again And jaren jackson jr pulling up from the three point line in the playoffs became very clutch for this grizzlies team So I like that value at plus 2400 and then For nba sixth man of the year, of course in the lead is jordan clarkson at plus 600 We i'm not surprised by that, but I also see great value in derrick rose at plus 1600 We saw a very aggressive exciting side of derrick rose in the playoffs as well And he turned out to be a very clutch player for the nicks when they needed him Just like jaren jackson jr was so I see some good value in derrick rose at plus 1600 As the best sixth the sixth man of the year and then for most improved jaren jackson jr to me has some good value So Do what that looks like you have an outright winner if you had to pick somebody right now I feel like the obvious is just nets and then you you're thinking your head lakers And then you're like can the bucks repeat they still have the majority of their players But it's too early to give a pick. There's so many it's too early to be honest with you my my gut goes to the lakers um Just because of how stacked they are And I think they've got a really great leader in lebron james and that helps a lot and um I really love russell westbrook as well And I think him being able to be on a team that actually uh wins is going to be huge for him So immediately I go to the lakers, but the nets are also Right up there alongside the lakers just because I I love the I was riding high on the nets last year until they burned a hole in my pocket And um decided to choke A ton of people had them obviously to win it made a lot of sense when you were looking at the roster But we I was kind of arguing all season though Some of them were playing and then some would play and then once it on back to back the chemistry when it comes to The playoffs everyone plays all out and then when they play all out they end up getting injured Which is kind of what happened, but grim fam Fan, excuse me on youtube said chicago bulls making the playoffs and winning it all this year A lot of people saying that a lot of people riding on the bulls be awesome to kind of bring them back um Grim fan also said I like in bead for defensive player of the year Hopefully he's able to stay healthy because sometimes I feel like there's always like a few like a stretch of games that he misses Um, I got us. I got us. I got to read this comment out loud because this is hysterical High rolling seven one one said on twitch if your life, this is so great if your life depended on it Would you take yanis or simons to make a free throw? Oh, that's a good one Yanis because he try Like the honest he still does well it takes so long it's annoying, but I think he like cares So I would probably take yonah. Oh god. That's tough. That's a tough one. I don't know I need to think about that one. I don't know if I even have an answer. That is hard That is tough. That is tough Um, but if you know what I said alex pruzo six man of the year Aaron olivis said go nuggets. Yay. Go nuggets. I'm with you there Love it. Yeah, I'm excited. Well, we talked a lot of nba throughout the next couple of weeks Absolutely, I mean it's right around the corner. So have no fear We will still be talking all things nfl because who doesn't love to talk about the nfl, but Um, we of course will be talking about the nba as that slowly approaches us, but I think it is time First before we before we bring on our guests. We got to talk one more thing water versus fury three Yeah, we're giving away 10 pay-per-view codes to our audience for this just remember For the chance to win there We're gonna randomly randomly pick 10 winners from those who enter with their email and whatnot So everything's going to be available online and on our twitter the fandal one fandal sports book So we're giving away pay-per-views and stuff. So if you get it on the action and whatnot, it's going to be good Get on the action people. Um to wrap up the show though We are bringing on a guest in segment five Jess is the first ever female handicapper on covers if that is not impressive and cool and sick as hell I don't know what is she is sharp as attack. Um, been a great follow. She does I think she bets on just about everything Um, yeah, but we're gonna bring her in so that she can tell us a little bit about how she got in the industry What she does and hopefully drop us some locks for this make some money Jessica and all this how are you? I'm doing me. I'm happy to be here and finally meet you girls and In a virtual person. I know Yeah Yeah We're excited to have you on Thank you. Thank you for having me. Uh, it's a fun show. I've been listening to you girls for the past couple minutes And looks like you love you guys have a lot of fun on here. So I'll be a part of it Yeah, it's like a little hangout. That's so we're happy to have you But um, we wanted to kind of talk with you because like we said first of all Congratulations on being the first ever female handicapper on covers. That is wildly impressive And massive because I think there's a lot of women right now That are kind of I I know I get a lot of DMs anyways of women that are interested in doing what you do and And it's it's tough. It's a very cutthroat industry in general But to be a woman I think we've talked about this Aaron and I before that you almost feel like you have to be somewhat perfect Because you're already kind of under this microscope for being a woman in sports But then being a woman in sports gambling and you're putting people are putting their trust in your knowledge and your picks And you almost feel like you have to work 10 times harder to get people to understand that you really do know what you're talking about So I would love to hear from you because I know that there's there's girls and women that watch this and Maybe you're interested in doing what you do. Um, how did you get into this industry in the first place? Yeah, it all started when I decided to leave california and I moved to sin city and went live in vegas for a little while and From there is when, you know, obviously when I turned 18 we were able to uh, or 21 sorry and actually bet on some games and Could drink my friends and was you know at first Hey, I'm just gonna bet on the dolphins because I like dolphins and I'm a dolphins fan and I win. Yeah, and you know it was um What I was about but then I really started to realize that there was a lot more into it And if you really start to pay attention and you know, you start talking to I would you know talk to fellow betters and You know, I started learning what their edge was and you know, why are you betting on this team or what? What's the difference? You know, what's the public versus the dogs and you know things like that and it all started clicking and I really started taking to Heart what these people were telling me and from there. I kind of just started, you know, made my account on twitter and started I posted things like that and just you girls have mentioned it is hard. It's throw so many people at first me Not only is you you know, it's a virtual world and so many people can make certain accounts You or you're hiding behind a screen. You also improve yourself that you're actually a female And that you do know what you're talking about. So that's like the first hurdle. So get get past that get past to actually um, men to actually believe that you're a woman and then after that God forbid you came out a woman Exactly. Oh your and you know sports. This isn't possible. It's like, yeah, actually it is Not that hard surgeons guys women do their CEOs. I'm pretty sure they can pick a game. It is not that hard Come on. Exactly. Yeah. So, you know, it's just like anything Like the book outliers like you got to put the work into it. So if it's something you want to do It's not you're not just gonna whip up and be like, I'm gonna be a great better day. It's you know, you Have to you know, they're You have to put your put your homework into it. Get out there, you know, do what you need to do And once I did that, you know, I kind of luck just Helped me. I found a fellow Dolphins fan who by the name of gosh, uh lined me up with Hey, uh He worked for pro football network. He started the company and said, hey, they're looking for people to write articles betting articles, I think the be good at and he kind of got me got me in and It all started there a football network hired me on and I wrote articles for them and had a weekly show And after a year of doing that and again just posting plays on twitter That's where I was by covers and covers approached me and asked me if I'd like to for them and Then I absolutely said yes and It ended up being great. I now I'm the first female handicapper for their covers. I'm having a lot of fun with it It's been about four months now that I've been doing it for fun. And then from there I got noticed And here I am with fandal. So yeah, I love it. I love it You know, it's it's so crazy to me too because that's kind of how I ended up with the volume and fandal as well Is is social media. It's crazy that if the right person sees your stuff Enough times, you know, you get noticed by the right people and they like what they see And I think it's important too from a content perspective to remain consistent Because putting a play out there every once in a while isn't enough, you know If if a company looks at your page and sees that This is a grind for you and like you said you do your homework and you put in the time in the energy You know for us betting is not just some fun hobby that we do. It's our job It's our it's what we do every single day. So to put in that consistency. I think is is massive But I I admire everything that you've done and and your credibility is incredible and and it sounds like You're continuing to build that credibility every single time you put yourself out there because you're doing the homework And you're showing up and and doing what you need to do because it's just just because you've got the job Doesn't mean that you're you'll keep it, right? I mean and you don't want to face all the hateful people on this wonderful phone That have all their opinions out there and so yeah, you're you're killing it. You're absolutely killing it Yeah, live I think you make a good point about the homework and doing your research So that kind of brings us to our next question that we wanted to bring up just which was How do you handicap a game? What do you factor in the most? Do you find one game hone in on it? Do you go to certain articles? Do you look at stats? Do you look at certain analytics? Do you go to certain pages? What's your process? Let's say for one particular game and maybe as an example you can do the mlb game that's going on right now Yeah, definitely. So First thing I do I'll kind of start with how with football season now is you know after all the games on sunday Monday morning how I'll start my day is I will look at This week week five all the lines and before I read do anything. I with my own predictions and I will see What the over and under what I think how many points I'll go from there after that then I'll start diving into readings articles seeing what's going on seeing what the line is After that I plug numbers into my model and I have models for nfl and nba and mlb And for my nfl I'll plug in the models and I'll see what aligns and if something's too similar As well as the what the line is I'll scratch it because if I predicted that it's going to be minus three and it is minus three On fandal. I'm not touching. It's a stay away from me. However Uh, like for instance last week with the revins I saw the reins. I saw that game around rinse minus three minus up to like my seven Uh, my mom said that the revins are going to win by 10 and then you look at nine and they're plus one So I was like right there. I'm jumping on now. I'm taking it My broncos ouch. I know I'm going to interrupt really quickly But could you explain to maybe our viewers as well? But while answering this question Is this a model you made yourself or is this a model that you use on a certain site? No, this is a model. I made myself. So I was able to meet a friend through social media as well and A silent part of mine and we helped Create models together. So Yeah, so their models I do the like the mlb one is a lot more intricate There's so much more factors that go into it with mlb because you got to do with the you know, the players their stats They got the nfl. It's just more as a theme as a whole. So it's uh their each one is is different and it has its different ways and You know, you're also this year. It's a I'm not Doing as good as last year so far. I mean the we're still early into the season However, just last year with all the COVID relations and everything. It's just a little different. So these, you know Each week my model is getting a little bit better and Just like I said that take time you're putting in different stats and People think oh, you know, I mean DM's like, oh, well, what does your model say? What is your model said? You know, you also have to consider like that hours that I'm putting in to You know, figure this out and make it happen and it's not Again, it's not something that you can easily do it takes it take time So yeah, that's what I pretty much do and then from there see what the lines are some bets all right away And I'll want to place a bet and then I'll wait to see if the line changes about the week And I might not even come, you know, even Sunday Saturday night. I'm like, all right, I'll jump on this Or you know what? Nope. I don't like the number It's too high too too low. I'll stay away Smart and it's it's crazy too. You kind of brought up how people will message you because I get that a lot as well And I'm sure Erin knows a thing or two about it as well. Just people by DMs are closed DMs are crazy, man I'll tell you what I had him open for a while just because I'm a I'm a big people person I'm very personable and that's something that a lot of people told me in the very beginning They're like, we love that you interact with us and I'm like, yeah, that's just who I am I enjoy it too It got to a point though where I was like, okay enough interacting Some of you are getting a little spicy and out of line So I'm going to turn these DMs off for a little bit But isn't it crazy that you can have people That come to you You put all this time and energy into this model something that they probably think you whip up It takes you hours and hours and all these different things you have to do And your bet may not hit and they're upset like you did the work for them Right like you put in these hours to try to get all the information you could It still blows my mind that some people are so disconnected to the process of sports betting You know, I'll be honest. There are some games where I wake up and I'm like, it's a gut feeling That's it. I'm not handicapping a thing I'm riding with my gut and sometimes it works for me and sometimes it does not There are other games where I'm sitting in front of my screen wanting to rip my eyeballs out of my head because I'm so frustrated Looking at the same lines and stats and numbers and it's it's a very long strenuous process and so To anyone that takes her models or her bets or whatever Realize that and understand that there is a very lengthy process that goes into that model It doesn't just not just a robot that does it for her It sounds like you do this all on your own which is incredibly impressive And it sounds also like you have quite a bit of success using it Do you feel like you have to adjust your model year to year? Obviously last year was very peculiar with the whole covet thing But do you feel like you have to tweak your you know, will you take a season and go? That wasn't really working for me. I'm going to adjust that next year Do you make changes from year to year or is it from a game to game basis? Yeah, I do. I mean keep in mind too. This is only my second Well going into our second season of the models. So okay It's still yeah again, so I just only had the model from last year for NFL So this is As my second year and yeah, just like I said it we're now going into week five But a few things where the model was like dead on and then right I felt and then the bets didn't hit so it's kind of like all right. Well Again players different quarterbacks different situations rookie quarterbacks, you know, all that goes into play Which the model doesn't doesn't know that doesn't know who you know, it's just going off the team as a whole Right, right. Yeah Very interesting. Do you ever get frustrated that you do put in the book? I can't even speak right now put in the work and then after that you're tweeting it out and then Do you feel like you're kind of just giving things away for free in ways? Uh, I do In a in a way. Yes, but that's your job. Obviously same as all but exactly but At the same time when the bets do hit It's that part of me that feels like I am helping somebody or you know, I helped I'm giving out this information to help others and then In and they place a bet on something like there's nothing Better than I've gotten quite a few DMs throughout the past couple years where someone would be like, oh my gosh You did great. Thanks for all your You know, thanks for all the tips and the bets I just was able to you know, book a honeymoon for my wife and I that just got married And we were able to like go do something like that or you know, like I've not saying it happens all the time But when I do get those messages, I'm like, wow, you know, I just helped this person get x amount of Dollars and they're able to now go do something that they really wanted to do So that really makes me feel good I need more of your followers because my followers are like you only put 10 dollars on your own bet I'm like, I gave you a bet that hit put your own thousand dollars on it and leave me alone Leave me out of it. I don't even care. My 10 dollar unit is fine by me I am just coasting along because guess what when I don't win I'm not sweating it's 10 bucks But I have people that are like I saw your parley. You only put 10 dollars on it. You must not be that confident I'm perfectly confident. Otherwise, I wouldn't have put it on the internet But if you love it then put your own unit on there So if you are a grid iron follower, please come over to my life because you seem a whole lot more pleasant That are in my replies and comments, but um It sounds like you've got a good thing going which I love Oh, thank you. But I mean, I have to say I did have a lot of haters. I had a lot of trolls. I had a lot You know, uh, but I just I just nipped that I don't know. Can I cuss on here? I just nipped that in the butt. I'll just say that Yeah, you can't probably cuss on here. But it's definitely not a curse word on this show You haven't dropped any f-bombs yet, but there's been times where I'm like, oh that could have slipped We're talking about certain things Um, yeah, so I was just like, you know, and I told them straight up What's you know, and I block them and now I have you know, my core followers are just people that are You know have great intentions and you know positive I'm all about, you know, the positive vibes and things like that like if you're gonna Then why are you following me? I got I could never understand that why never clicks. I'm like, you're still looking It's always funny because I'll I'll I'll sometimes scroll through the comments Which I know everyone has told me stop doing that which I should But I'll scroll through the comments sometimes and I'm like this person consistently is under my page just Firing off their mouth saying the most outlandish And then I go to their page and it says follows you I'm like, hold up. Why do you hate me so bad? Why are you following me if you hate me so bad? But you're so right? I mean, it's really it's block I appreciate the people who fight the trolls I post that I was at penn state and somebody commented and was like, oh my gosh, this girl's a fupa Whatever the hell that means and the guy was like, are you serious? That's what you took away from this and I was like, I don't even like are you kidding me like Hold on. Do you actually not know what a fupa is? We're not going to get into that on this show I do but like, oh geez, geez like these people are just I was like, we're not getting into that here. We're not turning this that into a we're not turning this into a Human biology class, but if you need me to call you after the show, I No, either way, no, we need to also we got to get that your NFL pick We got to get some of the picks going on here. You can give us anything you want Or if you have an NBA future if you want to talk about the MLB and MLB future I know you're really big in the MLB and live and I obviously as you probably are Are not too big in that so maybe our followers and people watching want to hear your take on some of that Yeah, I'll start with football first and then I'll go into Emily These are a couple lean so far that I like I've yet to play the thing just yet, but The dolphins versus the buck in years. I like the dolphins at plus 10 and a half This is a super public team with the bucks as we see their shiny toy I feel like it's the same situation that I have last week against the Patriots The number is just too high. I do see the bucks winning this game, but I mean, I know that the dolphins Their offense is struggle And they still their defense is looking good, but I don't know just that that 10 half is just a little too high for So it's a game I would consider I also like Falcons versus the Jets. I like falcon is three I feel like the Falcons their offense. They're finally They have the veteran quarterback in matt ryan, you know, has all of his weapons Both teams have mediocre defenses. Yeah, Zach Wilson had a good game this week But keep in mind that was the first time this season that they scored more than 14 points So I feel like the Falcons will be able to come out on top And another game I also Yeah, and I also really like the titans versus jags. I like titans minus four He you know, ryan tana hill. He's got some weapons coming back. I know aj brown is coming I think coolio jones is still questionable However, you know, we saw last that definitely they struggled without having them on the Out there on the field. So I feel like that's going to be an added bone for him. They also have a Derek Henry and you know, when it comes to jags, it's clearly a shit shown on there with urban meyer and everything I'm gonna say I think fading the jags in week five is probably the smartest thing you could do right now Because there's a lot going on over there. Okay, and they're not Oh, yeah, they have bigger issues right now than than football. So I would I would fade them for sure in week five Totally. Yeah, I think I think they lost he lost a lot of respect in the locker room. So Yeah, I would go Titans on that and another game. I'm really looking at which I like is I love niners plus five and a half against the cardinals. I think this is going to be the perfect let down For the cardinals all the public money is on the cardinals. This is a divisional game. We have to move that It's probably going to be three point win either way who has the ball asked in my opinion, but I agree with that. I like that game and at first I was obviously I've been writing I've been writing high on the cardinals all season, but eventually they're gonna lose Um, and that's just the reality you can you you know, if you stay undefeated forever, you're perfect And that just doesn't happen. So I I agree that I think that this is a good one Where that public money is going to be so heavy, uh with the cardinals that it's it's good to keep I think this will be a close one I'm not sure exactly who I think will win quite yet, but I definitely think it's a close matchup So I really like that bet for sure Agreed. I'm on that as well. So last before we kind of close out the show here Who are you taking to win the world series? Ah Yes, uh, I'm taking the Giants to win the world series. I think that they're yeah I think they're just the better overall. Um, you know, they've won, uh The sorry the Giants are plus 700 Well, I think that's a great, uh, take it at that, you know, you have the Dodgers and the Ash Yeah, but I say go say go go for the Giants. They have they have the better better record all season long and That's who that's why I see, uh, win the series and as far as tonight goes I say I like the cardinals Love it. I'd love to see another team knocked out. Were you kind of surprised by the Yankees being knocked out last night? I was all over the Red Sox, so Oh, he's like so no ma'am. Yes, you did. You had that. I saw your article. I'm sorry. You did put that off You had a like one 14. You took them on Monday night. Perfect Well, just thank you for joining us and if you guys are not following her, I believe it's just gridiron on twitter, correct? Just gridiron, right? Yeah, just amazing. So if you guys are not following her, you absolutely should um, she's put in tweets or tweets and picks out All the time and I see a whole lot of green check marks. So I know that she's doing very well right now So you should definitely be following her Obviously erin and I you guys know us. We've been this is episode five now time flies when you're having a good time Okay, so we will be obviously on social media. We'll post some clips of the show. Thanks for tuning in erin any last words See you next week for episode six Goodbye