 How long did you stay locked up? Well, I was locked up for a little bit over two years. Two years. But I was waiting for trial, and I was about to beat trial, but I was facing 25 to life on the other end. So they gave me a plea agreement the day before trial. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. By way of New York, comedian Rob is in the building, man, stop playing. What's going on, brother? What's happening? Man, listen, man, I got me, hey, listen, hey, listen, all you Puerto Ricans, all you Hispanic, don't try to hate on boss talk, we cross over, we cross over. You gotta, I'm gonna be honest. I was a little, you know, I've seen, you know, I followed boss talk and I was like, yeah, y'all ain't messing with us, Puerto, y'all treating us like Mexicans, come on. You must not see, and what's his name running out? No, no, no, which one? Yeah, she look, look, look, no, no, no, no, no. I'm trying to remember his name. Your comedian? Wasn't that important. Mr. George. Mr. George. That's why George Loper has posted us, too. Mr. George, but he's Mexican. No, Mr. George is the guy that would like, Mr. George, Mr. George, this guy here, he works, he's a comedian, though. Okay. I don't know the computers and stuff like that. Let me get him and do the Mr. George one more time. Let's go. Dude, Mr. George. Mr. George. Man. Yeah, go ahead. All right. Yeah, hello, Mr. George. Yes, I hear in the radio, Mr. George. Yes. No, no, drinking. No, I don't drinking. No. No, no smoking, too. No, no smoking. I'll be good tomorrow, Mr. George. See you tomorrow in the morning, all right? Yes. Yeah, I like that. That was good stuff right there, man. But he ain't like, he's not a comedian. Oh, here we go. I don't know what he's saying. He, he, he from the internet age, he ain't even. But you might be the first Puerto Rican. Is he the first Puerto Rican? The only one, you know, so right now, I'm the only, we never had one. Shout out to you, baby. We hear him. You hear him. You know, it sounds like I'm a pilgrim. You know, like I just crossed the Mayflower. That's how the first slave fell when he got here. I'm the first nigga in America. How did you, man, we got so much to talk about. Well, I love your New York accent, though. What part of New York are you from? I grew up in the Bronx. In the Bronx. Yeah, but then I came. I grew up in the Bronx. I was at the first Prince of Bel-Air. We moved to the suburbs. So I came in front. Because if anybody see them like, he wasn't in the Bronx, he was in Long Island in the suburbs. How old were you? Okay, how long did you stay in the Bronx for? I was in the Bronx until I was about 11. So how, from, so you were born in- So 11, and then I was born in Manhattan. Oh, you were born in Manhattan. Yeah, so I was born in Manhattan. I was in the Bronx until about 11, and then my parents moved out. They bought their first house. Okay. You know, one of those things of, you know, moving family out of the projects, everything. And then we moved to Long Island, which is the suburbs of New York. So how was the change for you as a kid from the Bronx to Long Island suburbs for you? You know, but when I was even in the Bronx, you know, my parents had put me in Catholic school. Okay. You were in Catholic school? Well, right up to when we moved. Prior to that, Fraser-on-Love, who I go on the road with, he lived right around the corner from in the Bronx. Really? You know, I mean, like we had same friends. And you knew him and everything. No, we didn't know each other. Really? And we might've, but you know, he was young, you know what I mean? You talking about six, seven years old. So when I said earlier, Roxanne, Shantator, hip-hop era, Eric, Ben, Rod Kim, M.C. Shane, stop playing, stop Africa and Bambala, man. So my family was, I had a cousin that was down with, at that time it was underground, underground. So rap was not out, so you talking about Spooni G. Yeah, yeah. Fumo D. Ooh. So I used to get this on. Big Marky. These underground tapes. And Bismarck wasn't even out. He went out. We talking about the 70s. Oh, this is the 70s. Oh yeah. Because you know, rap did start in New York. In the 70s and started in the Bronx. In the Bronx. So when I moved to Long Island, and I used to get these underground tapes, nobody was, you know, and the first commercial album that came out was Sugar Hill Gang. Rap is the- I met them dudes. 50s? My wife's, my wife's 50th birthday party. Wow. But they, so learning that, but then, you know, my parents were both in law enforcement. And so I grew up kind of privileged. So I can't say I had a hard call. How you grew up with both parents in the household? Yeah, and I still had a lot of issues. And how you ended up in doing stuff that you shouldn't be doing that? Yeah, there was a time, what happened was when you privileged, that's when you learned that you want to take shortcuts in life. Yeah. I was real privileged. I was in college. I got married young. How old were you? I got married at 18. And it's the same wife you have right now? No. Oh, okay. How long were you staying married for? We ended up married. I got married too young. So we figure probably about six years, up to about when I was six, seven years, until I went to jail. Yeah. At least that wasn't a year. Yeah, at least that wasn't a year. Cause some people be only married for just a year. Yeah. You know, I grew up in a household mother-father. So I believe in that. I started dating her, she had step-daughters and I felt like, you know, I wasn't going to sleep in someone's bed with their kids around and not be a father-type girl. That's real. That's a real man. So that was how I grew with that. But you know, I took those shortcuts. You know, I wasn't, you know, I wasn't looking to, I should have stayed in college. You know, I had football scholarships. I was, I went to St. John's, but it was one of those things when I always had that mischievous thing about me, you know, I'm spontaneous. Some people would say the street was calling. The street was calling, they shouldn't have been calling. You know, so my ear was still to the street a little bit. So I got involved with some, involved with the mob, you know, New York, you can get involved with a lot of things. So what did your dad say? Cause you said he was law enforcement. What did he say? My dad was a cop. He was actually the first police officer in his agency in New York city. So what did he say? So what did he say? When you got locked up. Yeah. When he was in a bad position. But you know what? My dad kept it real. You know, he never asked me if I did it. He never did it. See, I was just about to ask you, did he know about what you were doing before you got out? I was out the house. I was out the house raising a family at that time. I'm gonna get out of jail cars, free did you get from him being your father? Well, you know, maybe tickets, but you know, I actually, it put me in a good position in jail. Yeah. Because even though I was also protected by the mob, you know, he, him being who he was. So when you're in jail, you know, you get a level of respect from either like, you know, a good fellas type thing, right? And then you get respect because they know your father's law enforcement. But that was, it hurt me in the beginning because they put me in protective custody. Yeah, yeah. But they did that mainly because there were people snitching against me. They wanted to seem like I was snitching. So once we, once we mutualized that, there was a way we did that. How long did you stay locked up? Well, I was locked up for a little bit over two years. Two years. But I was waiting for trial and I was about to beat trial, but I was facing 25 to life on the other end. So they gave me a plea agreement the day before trial. Wow. Because we had one, had a big, big time power, house attorney back then. And it was one of those things that I want to come home. And all my father told me, like I said, he never asked me, did you do it? What he said was, if you feel like you're guilty, you know, then you take your deal. If you feel like you're not guilty and you can do the time, then you plead not guilty. And that's how we made the decision to take the cop out. Cause I knew I wasn't not guilty, you know? Yeah, yeah. At that time I was involved with, that's when the crack game got started, heavy. So I was involved with some people and that in the 80s, it was on my car robberies going on back then. So that was the charge? Yeah, we had more over, almost a million dollars in robberies on my car. Wow, man. And you think about it, man, though. Like I said, did you ever, I mean, did y'all get away with anything? Oh, we got away with over, never got caught. That's what I'm saying. So you already had, I was a behind the scenes guy. He had already, he had a, man, sometimes we can come by here. So the robberies, I was at that time, I was 20, that was, that was 22? 22, okay. Bump your head, bump your head and then finally you have to do a stint. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gon' talk.