 uh... meteorologist i'm telling you we have to have doctor brawl on the show in character in character oh fully in character and we have to we have to run it straight face we have to do it live on the air too i think that that would just be a phenomenal way well we've got a few more uh... few more weeks till april first oh yes april first is a show day isn't it it is if anyone knows how to get us in like i don't even know that he'd want to oh my god that would be so much fun why would he not what do you mean why would he not want to i don't know it seems like that would be a thing that would be stopped by publicists not publicists and handlers not uh... yeah but i feel like they're they're the gatekeepers right they're the ones who yeah yeah now they ultimately choose how they're going to work so as we wait for ryan to come back ryan is in a giant storm and he likes doing graphics for whatever we see thanks thanks for the hurricane of emotions oh hang on you know i will say that uh you know we'll we'll do rehearsals for rocket launches and whatnot right yeah and um you you're rehearsing with just like dummy video feeds yeah but sometimes the wind at cape canaveral is really strong so the microphone is just picking up and it actually breaks up like that exactly like that right nice and so we'll simulate three two one lift off and nothing's going on but then the audio engineer will bring up these microphones like and it can legitimately sound well done here it goes right and then and then they'll pull it back down like as the rocket the rocket gets ready and you're like all right all right that's kind of oh you clever little audio worker look at you look at you go you figure what you've sounded everything so you know we had like this like we were off this last friday mostly because i was in starbase for reasons i can't imagine why i can't imagine why either what was going on around then and um oh all right so my fun story is from starbase um i can obviously i can't talk about much of it but i did tweet out if you watch the presentation there is a point where the powerpoint deck went boom right i can you make the windows noise i don't even know you and um and yeah bonk and um that was me that and that wasn't my team that was literally me i uh i screwed up and i have the engineer and me cannot let that fly right so first off the engineer and me plan for this and you'll note like issue resolution rapid does it was a fast recovery yeah that was that was glorious to watch right like you could see like i was like uh oh and we fixed it real real fast because like i prepare for these scenarios now maybe not that exact scenario because i don't know exactly what's going to happen but i was ready for it and i wasn't ready for me to be the issue but okay whatever problem exist between keyboard and chair there's the first time for everything i know so uh but then also like it was it was literally um so we were i was slightly off nominal in my configuration due due to like how i needed it to be and so i needed like now moving forward i've realized like i need to actually adjust the ergonomics of how all this goes together so like you will never see this issue again this specific issue will never happen again uh but yeah that was that was me uh but then i have a fun tradition so back in whenever we unveiled dragon the crew dragon we call it dragon v2 at that time we don't call it that anymore but crew dragon when we unveiled that for the very first time it had the the screen elon hit the thing is like whoo dragon this is back in a hot thorn right yeah 2014 was that oh yeah god wasn't 2014 yeah this before i was even on the show well so um i was running that event and i started this is when i started this particular tradition um i for that particular event i was working crazy hours it was like 20 hours on four hours off 20 hours on four hours off and i worked my and then we did the event and when we were done with the event i gave myself bronchial pneumonia like my body was just so worn down i couldn't do anything i remember that me me too is that when you accidentally uh huh so he knows where this is going so so oh my gosh i did so let me explain let me explain they don't know what's going on yet jared so um what i love this one that's great it's still not scrolling i need this keyboard to keep this screen scrolling so uh what happened was um i can't sit idle right what had happened was i can't sit idle and so here i am i'm sick i'm at home i'm on the couch but like i can't do that i'm not i'm not built like that i always have to be doing something we have a limited number of hours on in this life i got to be doing something and so i would log into my computer and i check stuff and you know this is what year is it 2014 yeah so um tesla had the model s and i think only they were only shipping the model s at that point this is before the three before the x before all of it and i think they discontinued the roadster so like this was the only car and you know we all i dreamed of having my my tesla it was a really cool car i wanted an all electric vehicle and so for you know a year or two probably you go in you configure it because they're constantly changing their configurations and whatnot so i was doing that under the influence of crazy medication to like keep me and um they had reduced the price they're like hey you know your deposit is instead of $10,000 that's $500 or whatever the case was they're like oh well that's not bad i can do that buy now close the laptop back to sleep this is how i bought my first model s and so i i slept for a while and then i woke up and carry ends at work and i i get i i opened my email because again can't stay still and as email from tesla says congratulations on your car we'll be reaching out to you to arrange delivery and i went uh-oh what what what have i done and so i have made a tradition of doing these huge events so then there was another event where i did um i bought like a 4k tv OLED or something like that there was another event where i got i want to say was it our house i don't know but these huge huge purchases i bought an actual bar of gold you know one one year i bought bar of gold would be cheap bar of gold would be cheap compared to these i trust i tell you right right yeah yeah you're not wrong so after this event so now to be fair i have not like that was me being stupid like space x didn't request that i work all those hours that was just me being an idiot not knowing what i was doing so i haven't done that since but um buys a drag adam so hold up it is sorry the interface isn't autoscrolling for us so i have to like keep like buys a dragon so um so for this one yeah you're not running off far off i literally uh so we did the event that was on thursday and then on friday i'm back in my hotel like we were uh there was a a period where the pad was closed and so i couldn't do much and so yeah i collapsed i was in my hotel room i was exhausted i'm on my phone i just passed out well yeah i just hit the ground they're stressful these events are slightly concussed but i think i'm okay so so i'm in my hotel room i'm on my phone and you know they tesla has announced these new models of the s and the x and so i'm on the website configuring it and they're like hey your deposit 250 and i thought to myself yeah why not but i didn't do it and then tim dot tim dodd was down at starbase and so i met up with him for lunch or something like that and i was like hey i was thinking to get in tesla he's like you should do it i'm like okay and i hit click in the grand tradition of me doing these big huge events i purchased a model x plaid in white on white i i legitimately did this so it's it'll be delivered in october and so yep another major event and another major car you need to sell one because you don't have you don't have space to park there are now yo yeah that's correct so there are three teslas between the two of us i need to at least sell one of them but i need to sell three of them no no so there you go that's that's my story uh yeah at least it will match the studio your your three needs front tires maybe you can get rid of that one replace it with the x i'm excited i'm really excited for this x though like i wanted a carion does not like the x she thinks it looks like a minivan when the doors are closed i i'm not a huge fan of it with the doors closed i don't think it looks i don't think it's their best looking car when the doors are closed but those falcon wing doors are amazing i love how they look so awesome so in the interior of the x that that cockpit where the glass goes over your head yep phenomenal the s looks like it looks like a python and the actually the s looks like a python and the x looks like a python that ate something kind of so anyhow i might raffle what me this is great well the raffle went on stream the carry and just find out right now no no no but she did find out after i did it so again holding to tradition i ordered the car and then i told karen so yep that's uh that's a thing there you go i just spent a whole lot of time talking about things that most people probably don't care about but it's still funny yeah i know right so i you know in 2020 so chat room now start posting in comments for the 2023 update what am i buying then is that a cyber truck like what do i do what do i buy after the 2023 update new new roadster oh that's a great actually that was karen's point she was like don't get the x like you know you want the roadster just wait for the roadster and i'm like i do want the roadster and actually this is another music you just so smoke scale says mini vans are just road based shuttle craft okay yeah that's true actually i got the white on white on the x because i think that's the best color combination with that one and it does look like a spaceship yeah right i think that's pretty awesome yeah and then i was gonna say i went up to the eclipse the person i was staying with in origan we were using a model x to get around and man it was it really did feel like a spaceship in it it's it's great because i would always i always sat in the back and i usually don't do that in cars but i always sat in the back just because of the falcon doors because i just love pushing it and then watching it open and everyone around stopping and looking what which seat configuration was it uh it was the two two two i think yeah six the six seater yeah that's that that is the only seat configuration i can get in this car because i did get the plaid option because yeah just you know plaid option because that's that's what i do no bag well and then someone said and i put it up on the screen music said the tesla semi and that is actually something like i want to create a mobile control room for those events and we found an rv that was black and i was going to call it because because tesla has um they've got ludicrous mode and plaid so we were going to call it space ball one and there were going to be three doors one door is going to be dark helmet uh the other one was going to be um princess vespa and the third one was going to be i don't remember um i don't remember what the third one was it might have been a lone star but like yeah and then that was going to be my mobile control room and then i can't have it now so i don't know what i'm going to do and yeah there you go but you got an x and it's plaid so i got an x and it's plaid and you know that was all loosely related to space 10 minutes into this show and people are like why what is going on that most of them have tuned out i apologize so my name is jamie higginbotham i am joined by ryan katin and jared head now from this point forward uh because i do work at company x and uh i do not represent them this show has nothing to do with them my my opinions are my own but i also can't really talk about them too much and uh there's a whole lot that happened on thursday and actually like all around with regards to space weather and uh wait what's that look for um well okay we'll get into it me and ryan me and ryan will talk and we'll i was gonna say i could just like back out like i'm just gonna be sitting here drinking my uh alani cosmic stardust so yeah i mean like have at it yeah have fun well ryan you want to take it away to where should we where should we even begin because we've got a smorgasbord of things the starship update was so there's so much stuff that was revealed in it well it wasn't it well it's not the largest event that's ever been but it was still a large event like it's over an hour long so i think the best route with this is just if people in the chat want to list like their favorite parts of it then we can discuss that because there's no way we can get through the entire event in the show i felt like there wasn't really actually much happening at the the update i didn't feel like there was much at all that happened yeah we got some new numbers and we got we understood that there are some new engine configurations and other things like that yeah um but really the only thing that i got out of it was the uh one it's actually orbital refilling not refueling um and um also the uh what were the other two things that i was like what uh oh yeah i didn't get my update on the um life support system i wanted to know about it just it just like two three years ago in 2019 it got hand waved um keep magic um and then um what was it uh the other one oh yeah the uh abort system which was basically we'll just fire the engines and hope the thrust to weight ratios one or more so yeah and i was just like so yeah so that was that was it for me there was really i mean updated numbers are great and and it was cool to see raptor two and you can definitely see that's a much more streamlined uh piece of equipment but at the same time it was like i i don't want to say it could have been a tweet thread but it really felt like five or six tweets and you could have knocked it out so yeah well uh bringing up what and the law said elon has always said refilling and not refueling um i was bored last night i think so i just started reading through the transcript from the 2017 iac conference and that's true it says refilling not refueling which is something that i earned yesterday um but yeah i think it's very interesting because i've always presumed that the fuel as the mix of the oxidizer and the propellant but the propellant is the actual fuel not the oxygen and there is more oxygen so it's like yes but there's still propellant there it's not just oxygen so refilling fueling i don't know well typically the way that i if i'm talking about rockets with people i'll typically describe propellant as the combination of the two and then the fuel is what burns in the oxidizer assists in the burning of the fuel um so or enhances the burning of the fuel if you will um or causes the burning of the fuel so yeah it's refilling and refueling i can understand why he would say refilling that probably sounds a lot better than reoxidizing um or whatever would possibly come out with that but at the same time it also does as uh johnny spacer is saying it's a refueling refueling potato potato you know that's yeah to me i think that it should be interchangeable terms to be honest because refueling is something that people will understand compared to refilling and they're so similar i don't really see it i don't really see a point in separating them but i also do i'm with elon on this one like it's you're not refueling you're really not refueling the vehicle you're filling you're putting liquid oxygen on board you're not putting fuel on board yeah you are putting some fuel on board but ultimately you're putting oxygen on board yeah so you're actually reoxidizing you're reoxidizing yeah gotcha okay so i could do that reox so yeah we're reoxying um starship on orbit so i'm sure that'll make people mad i mean they're there can be a refuel process but that is different than the reox process yeah it sounds good it sounds good so uh oh folks are mentioning chopsticks uh daniel carlson mentioning uh chopsticks there so okay that big big chopsticks on that one there they were used for the first time that was so cool to see honestly just seeing the we didn't get to see super heavy being lifted with it but seeing starship being lifted with it was i think we see data stroke it there we go sorry starship this is a good one too i like this johnny spacers refueling refueling that's a good one that should be the official terminology after the turn and burn it began the refueling that's right up there with normal nor yeah oh yeah oh yeah someone needs to make one of uh like a Wikipedia list of all of the brilliant space terminology wrongness it's it'd be brilliant anyway chopsticks starship seeing starship lifted up by the chopstick arms was just something very exciting to see because it's done the load testing but actually seeing a ship being lifted up like it will be before the launching of the first orbital flight that's just so cool to see is it's it was it was almost like a kind of dress rehearsal for what it's actually going to look like when starship flies and that's going to be like one of the most exciting days ever so the preparation for that is also very exciting yeah i was going to say in our chat room uh oxy's that big so zero uh it says lifting and stacking starship with the chopsticks happened so insanely fast and like you said i don't think that was a mistake uh or or a or a rush to try to do it i think that was definitely a can we do this um and what are the challenges for us to actually get it up there that fast um so yeah that was uh that was pretty darn impressive with it uh wind didn't hemo i guess i hope or wind to hemo uh is asking in our chat room starship who's seen docking side by side the previous animations showed the bottom to bottom coupling any ideas why they changed it ryan you got any ideas why they would have gone to maybe a side by side configuration instead of a aft to aft the only idea i would have is that you can see on the in the news there was a render from eric x and the nine engines under the underneath the starship is so um it's just so tightly packed in there so i just i think the only plausible reason to change it would be that the fact that there's more space to put the actual infrastructure you need to hook it together uh side by side like that instead of instead of end to end that's my that's my only theory of why they'd move it yeah i would say probably the last thing you want to do on a in a very cramped uh engine area is to warp uh a nozzle on an engine or anything like that due to wrong movement or a collision possibly with something like that so it seems um seems to me that a the ability to uh dip out of a of a potential issue during docking is probably even better um in this too um i would also imagine that there's no not going to be any heat shield contacting like you could have with an aft to aft docking so that might be a two just to keep the heat shield clear so um because it's going to be at the top of the vehicle and there's not a heat shield there so it's just the stainless steel uh that is that is there so i couldn't find ryan i couldn't find the image you mentioned but i am dropping we actually have a thumbnail that shows like the raptor engines these are the v1 engines so this is one of the new thumbnails and data that should be there now it's called raptor book raptor book so it's an image yeah that was that was pretty good so did i miss the moment i think you did this moment did i miss that there you go yeah who lots of raptors yeah so to be frank that is super heavy not star ship i don't get that one slide if that's not if that's not rocket engine plumbing porn i don't know what is all right hang on hang on you were talking about hey i think i found the other one i'm gonna need but v2 those are i think it's called nine engine starship i don't see that in your folder but that's fine you got the moment is gone and now i've made it worse yeah and yeah that is the v1 or v1.5 raptors however you want to class it and the v2 raptors are so much more tightly packed it's crazy to see how much they've managed to do on cutting that down yeah they're they're they were much more tidy um look it was much more tidy looking than it was with the with the first one so the first one looked like an absolute and they're still gonna cut it down more i don't i'm looking at that i don't understand how they're gonna cut that down more but they are apparently i don't know how yeah okay so people are putting in some really good you're popping your piece sorry some people i'm just so excited um folks are mentioning in the chat room uh that uh that the changing of filling the booster uh through the qt arm on the side might be why uh you're you're getting docking um in you know on the side now instead of aft aft with that so that that looks pretty yeah having one point instead of two makes makes sense as well yeah uh the moon is square it's saying why is elon still comparing rockets to airplanes if a jumbo went 400 miles high and in 27,500 miles an hour you probably would need a new plane every trip i think that was i think elon compared rockets to airplanes in a business question if i remember correctly basically about the the economic viability of that like compared to aircraft if i remember correctly yeah i think that's a really good analogy like it really helps you understand why rocketry is so expensive why aerospace is so expensive and like what you need to do to fix it yeah well the comparison was being made because elon was talking about using um starship super heavy as a potential cargo system you know like you can he was elon was basically saying you could fly i think what did you say something like 20 was it 10 or 20 trips in the same time it takes one aircraft to fly from say like houston to singapore i think was the comparison with that there so basically it was talking about the ability to deliver money i guess is what you would call it the cargo to deliver money yeah i mean that's kind of what it is if you think about it you're delivering cargo so you're delivering money um that's you that's how you're gonna make it work right so money makes the raptor fly around so um is that the name of the show sure why not hey money makes the raptor fly around yeah here we go yeah start the votes now so yeah uh yeah and uh as andy law is saying you know elon is compared the reusability of rockets versus aircraft in every opportunity since 2016 at least it's a good analogy because it is yes it works really well i feel like for the question that had been specifically asked which was more the economic feasibility of of operating a rocket versus say an airplane then that the analogy made even more sense to me even though you know it was it was you know with it so it was it was a good analogy i feel with that there even though it was with it yeah like you know brain kind of didn't catch up at the time got it yeah it was moving faster than my mouth could so yeah just wanted to call you out on it life on air no it's good it's good yeah i'll just remember that i'll put that in the back of my mind and i'll remember to spring it at the right time whenever you make a mistake that's great oh i won't make a mistake yeah i'll just i'll just sit here for the next 45 minutes and enjoy my my four or five opportunities you won't make that one again touche well played you'll find new ways to screw up i'm sure i mean that's isn't that that's what every event is right yes it's just basically mitigating those things that just yeah yeah oh hey by the way uh dada i did put that nine engine image now that it's now that the moment is truly dead let's let's let's make a dead horse let's beat it but there you go like here talk more about the thing you already talked about yeah look at that look at those look at the bells on those engines lord i see you were moving on can we come back that's going to be a thermodynamics nightmare in there holy moly there you go yikes well this is only uh this is a fan render so it's not nothing official at space it's just an idea of what it could look like but it looks really cool yeah that's a really good fan render yeah yeah it definitely does have a air of legitimacy to it do we know who the fan is so we can give them credit proper eric x erc x on twitter thank you mr x or x thank you x x marks the son x marks the render uh one asking where are the fairings on starship uh doesn't do it from yeah it's just a big door at the front yeah it's uh this goes how's it go does it come with the sound effect yeah it does only if there's a pressure differential oh yeah it is as many people are saying big chompy big chompy mouth so and very interestingly a lot of people in the chat room are very skeptical about point to point which is amusing because everybody remembers hi hey lisa um everybody it's lisa uh so apollo here for point to point earth transport only way i can see that working is if the rockets first stage in passenger second stage had wings and landed in conventional airports uh are avail saying i'm a little skeptical about point to point cargo you still have to get all the cargo to and from the offshore platform seems easier just to fly it on the plane you mean you can't can't have starship landing in the middle of los angeles i'm just saying if if your dreams aren't hard they're not ambitious enough that's true yeah that's that is oh hold up yeah that might be the name of the show if your dreams so you're telling me you can't land a starship in the middle of los angeles so well is that what they're saying you can but i feel like some local residents may disagree with that practice so um endeavor had a navigational error and they landed it in the middle of the la river but you're telling me you can't land a starship here in los angeles that's ridiculous well no at that time was not under power endeavor was gliding fair starship to land needs rocket power i'm sure no what they're saying is you can land starship in the la river yes and there's already water there they helped dance and the acoustical energy so exactly yeah and then you can stop it right at the fourth street bridge yeah i don't think you're right and really it's got the little flappy fins at the top and bottom so you just flap them like wings right to kind of keep it really hard really hard oh this is the core to revenge of starship there it is yeah right this is the thing that needs to happen i'm not adding value to this show at all and and and might i remind you there are airports in the la greater la area that have operating hours because residents don't like the sound of airplane oh yeah john wane airport yeah john wane and santa anna whatever they're calling it nowadays i don't know but yeah the people moved in by the airport and then got mad that the airport was there it's basically what it was is that going to happen with spaceports now is that is that going to be a 22nd century like spaceport issue i don't know oh i didn't realize the rockets would be loud if you launching a landing rocket you're not allowed to be within three miles of it or is it five miles i don't know three five miles something like that you can't get if you if you're gonna go for a day trip down to the kennedy space center when they're launching falcon or atlas or whatever you can't stand near the rocket you have to be away so you can't right and have you ever heard ryan do you have any uh have you ever been present at a rocket launch yes but i was very small okay they are three miles does not it's loud yeah like you want you want to be more than a mile away so it doesn't liquefy your insides beyond that three miles is about the point at which your aerodromes won't break yeah it's it's loud even in my point being it's obnoxiously loud yeah i was gonna say that will be loud and this is this is like sort of magnitude magnitude is larger than any rocket that's ever been lisa lisa has a great point which is the sound doesn't magically stop at three miles no oh i know the issue is lisa could lisa could you help what is three miles in a kilometer that might be the issue here that might be what's going on my point my point my wherever i was trying to go with that is that nobody will build a house next to a spaceport because it'll be incredibly dangerous and incredibly lag yeah just ask the whole entire town of lump oak or san padre yeah or or uh hi this bill rose one yeah yeah there are no examples that we can call from yeah i can't think of any none whatsoever about things that are that are near rocket launch it's like places it's like the people of palm dale complaining about sonic booms from edwards hold up a class has an interesting concept and i'm really curious i've never thought about doing this before what if you wore active noise canceling headsets during a rocket launch i don't think i don't think that's how well because it's full spectrum well no because it's me it's going to have very very good headphones you need to have very very good noise the noise canceling so the concept the principle of noise canceling is to generate the inverse of whatever sound wave it's picking up and so you have to be able to match not only the frequency but the amplitude in order to prevent damage to be able to cancel out anything that's on the outside from getting to your ears and like mushing your brain i wonder what it would do like you you're not wrong like amplitude it's a hard part but like it's amplitude and and frequency range yes the frequency range also a hard part because a rocket launch is all of the frequencies it's a few it's effectively pink noise right like that's what a rocket launch is yeah so yeah pink is the one that kills everything all the like all speakers right yes although i wasn't going to say starship it's a noise be a brown noise it's the noise once again i'm adding no value to the show i'm sorry internet it's the noise that brings on the mythical blue smoke i would be curious to like i would like to try that sometime at the same time i don't want to try because what a rocket launch is a brown noise no no putting on noise canceling headphones and listening to a rocket launch with no no no you're still gonna feel so uh is shell and funk i'm shallen you still need full body headphones to stop the acoustic energy you know that would be kind of the cool thing is still let's just say that the headphones did a decent job of canceling out the sound you would then be able to feel it but not really hear it once once yeah you can feel it once all right well i guess what i'll do i'll put my air pods on when i'm out at vandenberg for the next launch and see what happens actually if you don't mind i would like to know what happens yes i'll let you know yeah that'd be great all right all right i i i sidetracked this long enough there was more in the starship update right like we're not off of that yet i just made this go way off to of course launch also i love that the acronym for that is like lit this position is not eligible for life insurance oh my god this is why you watch the show you don't yeah this is if you want the serious stuff watch space news if you want to just have fun with space nerd stuff yeah basically go yep that's where we're supposed to be this is oh yeah thank you matty off track is where we're supposed to be this is the fun show not the new show if you're looking for the new show he does those they're amazing oh we're apparently getting we're apparently getting gifs already being oh no hang on yeah it's that so oh okay gotcha yeah it's that's your impression of starship going thanks yeah very beautiful thanks launch pad thanks launch pad beautiful that's great so that's great i now you launch pad now has two like i he's got what are we doing this now what are we doing this there you go launch pad just for you don't don't ever say jamie doesn't give the people what they want oh and we've started this debate that that started yep leave your comments below garaf jive garaf i really want a gif of a turn and burn so that way we could see the refill all right all right all right also lisa says i thought there was a jane my impression of uh lisa flapping her arms when she gets too excited she actually does flap her arms yeah she gets excited she didn't happen oh yeah she kind of bounces and flaps her arms yeah i've seen lisa go in circles um oh you know i'm going to try this poll and um we'll try to get that guy so and this poll is going to be ridiculous i'm just warning you in advance okay all right let's keep going keep going yeah me and ryan are going to talk now all right now the adults are ready to go um ryan what were some other cool things that happened for starship uh during the update what was some stuff that you that you found fascinating um i'll call i think i um i'll throw one out there no no no go on go on okay so i give props to elon for doing a really uh very decent presentation it was nice so got that practice it he's been doing good so good job dude so you're ready for the poll yet are we oh are we stalling for time for the poll is that what this is okay um back to the point on the whole uh ryan starship in the airport think us spaceports don't exist yet when planes were first invented airports didn't exist so that's true you know the the right brothers didn't turn up to he throw airport to fly over plane they went to kitty hawk because airports didn't exist yeah and kitty hawk seemed to be a relatively safe place right there wasn't anything within miles so just in case the right flyer was super loud you know and generated a tremendous amount of energy when things went wrong um yeah actually like the way lisa's phrasing this which is like oh yeah where the heck did people land planes back in the day grass fields yeah grass fields basically you know because we have those in abundance in la yeah and uh carlos is actually bringing up a good one too which is that flying boats were popular because of the lack of infrastructure on the ground that's absolutely uh with it and we're kind of going back there kind of with the with phobos and demos the floating spaceports you know they're putting if you put all the infrastructure on a ship you can put it anywhere in the world and you don't need to worry about homeland infrastructure yeah you just know it's an infrastructure but it's it's it's less resident dependent yeah you just have to all you have to worry about is cruise ships that's it right yeah so just have to just have to worry about cruise ships too soon with that there what too soon gotta gotta fight gotta fight on sunday man don't don't don't put that in my head don't give my ideas already did that once nice um there was a point where they were there was a comparison made between rockets and early airplanes i can't remember what it was but i felt like it wasn't a correct comparison because first of all rockets aren't early airplanes um but also gosh what was it i can't think i can't remember what it was so it's escaping me right now with that so uh but yeah it just felt like it wasn't a correct comparison it was eating at me a little bit so um yeah oh yeah at least lisa's saying in before someone suggests starship become an amphibious spaceship and launches c dragon style so that would be awesome that would be sick that would be cool i'd pay good money to see that so there'll be we need to be like on some sort of so make it for ship make it like a barge so that you pull up to it next to a cruise terminal and board everybody and then you voyage out to your launch location turn vertical and launch from the sea actually that solves the cargo problem too right you use kerplunk back into the scene boom and then just back to port yeah uh yeah not good for wales and dolphins um with that so it's walfons so and what about uh this oh my gosh walfons switch to hydro locks and then you just make it water oh there you go problem solved problem solved why why aren't we working for for this company anyways who are who are these amateurs um anything else ryan that you could think of from the starship update for me unfortunately there just wasn't a lot you know that i hadn't already heard yeah this was definitely this this update definitely felt more geared to someone who is i don't want to say like casual but like this one felt more geared towards that first 10 minutes wasn't nitty gritty yeah it was more towards that first 10 minutes where it was trying to address the point of doing this it was for those it was for those people um are these ever nitty gritty i legitimately ask him and i don't remember because i'm like in my own mode but i think the first one was yeah i will say that i see in 2016 that was pretty beefy was it in terms of the technicals so yeah it was a it was a fresh concept with a lot of technical details to be able to convince the world that it was possible and doable okay i i believe you i don't remember i was there but like i wasn't there at the same time i like i like that one because it was engineering heavy yes yeah yes yeah it was yeah but maybe you know maybe we're the wrong audience for this time yeah yeah okay yeah maybe i think um i think the most annoying part of the entire thing for me is that we had like 10 or something questions at the end and there were good answers to the questions but nobody asked about b4 and ship 20 whether they're actually going to be the ones that go orbital the most the question has been thrown around so much in the community over the past month or so and nobody asked it and then they promptly disassembled them yes and yeah just why why did you know what all this fell into the swamp they hang on they destacked that's a little different than disassembly also brad says i enjoyed it because i'm still a relative noob yes and i'm still learning a lot about starship it is a fin if you don't know much about starship it's a great presentation to get yourself up to speed with so um but in terms of just like learning new stuff there just was not a lot that if you knew a lot about starship it wasn't already what's going on here i don't know but apparently they're just making giants of yeah now they're making yeah they're so anyways there you go there's some more material for your uh your whole your library of response gifs so with that there starlink yeah something happened all right oh yeah oh we have video hold up we have video yeah maybe we should take a look at the video who grabbed this video right right because we don't have a credit on top of the video so who do we credit the video let me let me let me let me let me let me let me let me let me let me let me credit uh eddie ir irizari irizari iriziri and where do we slash s a c thanks eddie some Some, the organization was in Spanish and I couldn't read it, so S-A-C-E-D-E-Z-R-E-V-S-A-C, yes. Oh, this is a great weather happened. Yes. Weather did indeed happen. Yeah. So, what happened was, SpaceX did, SpaceX did, SpaceX did the old launchy launch. And when they got Starlings out, they were like, oh, this is nice. And then, as Dr. Tamethasco very, very, very goodly said in the little cameo she had in the SpaceX update, basically the solar storm that was predicted was two. So they launched and then, one, solar storm number two showed up and the atmosphere was heated to a degree that the density of the part of the atmosphere, whether the satellites orbit, increased up to 50% of what has been witnessed on previous Starlink missions. And that basically meant, you know how Starlink has a big flappy solar array. There's actually a technical term internally, it's known as the big flappy solar array. And basically that was causing so much drag. They tried to fly an edge on. That still was causing too much drag. And because of that, the satellites couldn't leave their safe mode and they couldn't raise their orbits. And because they launched in such a way that if they fail early on, they'll do orbit straight away. We got these lovely images out of Puerto Rico. They're beautiful in the saddest possible way. Yeah, they didn't really. We got some lovely shooting Starlinks. Oh, boo. Oh, boo. The same time I love it. Yeah. And they didn't, apparently nine survived, although I haven't seen data to prove that, but in the SpaceX, at SpaceX.com Scottish updates, they said 40 of 49 have de-orbited or will de-orbit soon. So I'm not sure what's happened to the other nine so far. They may have survived or they may have also de-orbited at some point. I'm unsure. Launchpad, this is a really great and sad number. Yep, quarter mil. Ouch. That was a very expensive fireworks show. Look at that there. Although that is amazing. I'm so sad to see it, but like this footage is incredible. Yeah. Pew, pew, pew. Oh, God, Brad, you are on fire with these. Don't be furious. Family stays together. Man. This is why we have space weather. Who knew that a solar storm was coming? Who knew? All of humanity. Like maybe not at that exact moment in time, but like we've talked about this for years and it's part of why space weather. Actually, Ryan, you even mentioned this. Space weather has been part of space news. Effectively since the, I think you said since the beginning of space news, I think we missed a couple of episodes. I know, but I couldn't be asked to put that in because, you know, it's the point that counts. I wanted to get that across to provoke how important it is. And you're, you're not wrong. Like we've been, we've been doing, we've, we've had space weather in nearly every space news episode since we started doing space news. Yes. Because it is important. But first off, it's cool. But secondly, if we're going to be going, if we want to become a space varying civilization, if we want to be in CIS lunar space, wherever we want to be, space weather is going to be critically important. These were Starlink satellites. No one was on board. Yes. But now imagine this is a spacecraft sending humans to the lunar colony. Well, there isn't really a, the same level of protection around the moon as there is. Like there's, I was going to say there's no magnetosphere around the moon, but I think there is a weak field somewhere. There's, there's. It's like not useful. So I was going to say none, but then someone was going to correct me. So I'm going to say a non viable magnetosphere, although it's like none. It's none, right? Is it none or almost none? I would say pretty much none. It's, is it pretty much none or none? I think it's none zero, but not enough to be. Okay. So none. There's a, okay. So effectively non protection, that same protection we have here at the moon. And so like this space weather is going to be important. If we are to be space nerds and we want to nerd out over humanity going, like all the, all the words all at the same time. If you're excited for starship and excited for what that means, you should also be excited for space weather. Yes. And you got to learn to, you got to understand space weather and how the predictions work and other things with that. So it just, it kind of seems like in this case. Yeah. Cause it can do good, it can do bad things to you too. Right? Yes. Like there, and this is not the first nor last time space weather has impacted, you know, our, our, both our constellations and technology here on earth or even humanity here on earth. There's a, I forget when it was, I want to say 1800s, maybe probably early 1900s. Yeah. The Carrington event in the 1800s. 1800s. Yeah. You want to just go like, you clearly know more about it than I do. Yeah. So there's an astronomer. And, and, and indifferent to Starlink burning up in the atmosphere. The Carrington event was a very large solar storm that smacked into the earth in the 19th century in the 1800s. And it was potent. It fried telegraph lines all over the earth, which basically you can imagine if, if it hit today, it would, it would basically destroy a vast majority of the electronics. My wifi's down. Yeah. Oh, why can't I get on Twitter? And why can't I tweet about how I can't tweet? And the aurorae were visible all the way down to Cuba. So. Holy crap. Yeah. And the, That would have been beautiful. Oh yeah. Because also the light at that time, like then the, The dark sky. The light that humanity could create is nowhere near where it is now. No. So those skies must have been epic. Yeah. And terrifying. Carrington people were able to read in the middle of the night because the aurorae were so bright. So that's how bright they were up in the high latitudes like that. I know this is a terrible idea with modern technology, but part of me wants to see that. Yeah. Oh, it would absolutely. It would wreck everything. Everything. I mean we're talking. My car would not start. Yep. Electronics and cars. Literally would be fried stuff. These cameras. Poof. Gone. You know, our computers. You can't watch us. But it would be pretty in the sky. It would be very pretty. Although I don't think anybody would get very good pictures of it. Unless you have a film camera, then you could probably get some pretty good pictures. That's also a good point. I just brought it up on screen. It might actually destroy your film. How far away from, are we from being able to predict something like that? And I think we actually, we kind of can. It's just that we don't have a lot of notice. Yeah. So the typical notice is like two to three days. So, you know, it might be, it might have be who's this to have Dr. Scovon tonight with us. Cause she's obviously the expert. Right. Amongst our circle about space weather and other things. Like that. Maybe, should we do an episode where we bring on Dr. Scov and just be like, hey, tell us more about space weather. Tell us your secrets. Tell us your secrets. Please tell us when and when not to launch. Well, and, but that was the thing is that like, we knew that this was happening, but it was, as I understand it, it was like the flipping. It was the like positive negative reaction that happened in the atmosphere that we didn't really predict that caused the issue. I think it was predicted to be one storm, but then it was two. And then the second storm was going in the other direction of the first storm. And then that created a lot of friction, heat, density, dead starings. Yeah. That's it. That's host. So that's how, that is how fast the sun will ruin your plans. At light speed. Literally. Well, actually, yes. Some of, if you think about it, things like, like radiation from the sun will move at light speed. So your warning for hard radiation from the sun and other things like that is, you don't have one. Seven minutes. Yes. But the atmospheric in beginning is not light speed. No, that takes a minute. That is, yeah, that does take time for that. So a couple of days for the, the particles to travel from the sun to the earth. So my point is this is why we care about space weather. Yes. This is why we put it in space news. Yes. This is going to be something we have to pay attention to when we want to send humanity out there. And I'm hopeful that, you know, getting in the habit of watching space weather now is like, it's not going to be that much longer before we have like humanity in mass more than just the space station going out to, you know, working in cislunar space or on the moon. And so we're going to have to start paying attention to this now. So like getting into this habit now and having these tools I think is a really great thing. Yes. Getting used to like, oh, hey, what does this space weather look like? Yeah. How is that colony on, you know, how is the Armstrong colony going to be? Yeah. And this is why it's so important to have missions that are also studying heliophysics. You know, the study of how the sun works and how it operates and other things like that. In case, in case anybody was wondering, you know, with us talking about the sun and everything, NASA actually did just give the go ahead to two small heliophysics missions that are going to study the sun. And actually one of them is going to deploy eight satellites and fly in formation and basically study the information that is, that you could potentially use to predict something like that flipping that Dr. Scope was talking about. That's pretty. So, yeah, which is, and it just so happened that they, you know, came out with that this week. Smoke scale has a comment that I fundamentally agree with, which is I want to see space weather so that it's on the, even in the evening news. Yeah. Yeah. Although I would argue that I think like evening news is not really a thing as much anymore. Like I can't remember the last time I watched evening news. I use Twitter and YouTube. I don't really use the book of faces. I watch the news. I watch the news. Do you really? Well, mm-hmm. Okay. Well, then there you go. I listen to the news. Like I'll listen to on the radio for like 20 minutes. NPR. Yeah. Something like that. All right. Yeah. So, you know, there are a lot of really great questions coming up. How much? Yeah. Let's go for it. Own it. Dada. Like if it's going up on screen at that point. But it sounds like you're moving on from it. Oh, no, no. I was going to it. Like how much will storms like that impact Mars? Is that far enough out that not have to worry about it as much? Well, again, a lot of this stuff is moving at the speed of light. Nope. You still have to deal with it out at Mars. You got to deal with it everywhere. Yep. Exactly. Like the sun is phenomenal in its power. Yes. It controls everything, right? Yes. Like it is responsible for life. It's like the king of the planet. It's like the king of the planet. That isn't Dr. Steve Brule. Which one is that one? No, that's Harry Carey. Oh, that's right. Or Will Ferrell doing Harry Carey. Yeah. That's right. That's right. That's right. The sun controls everything, right? And so the fact that it isn't a part of normal news is a little weird because it controls everything. So, yeah, Mars, lunar colonies, all of it. All of it will be impacted by the sun. Absolutely. Absolutely all of it. I mean, even now, you still have to deal with that. Even just in regular satellite operations, you have to deal with things like electrical charge moving across the surfaces and stuff like that. So this isn't even just like a, ooh, this just happened to Starlink, just now kind of thing. There have been times where solar storms have just blasted through and there were satellites that were in geosynchronous orbit and because they were on the sun facing side of the Earth, they're not really inside of the Earth's magnetosphere or magnetotail from the magnetosphere. You know, poof, there it goes. So, yeah. Technically, there's no magnetosphere on the moon. Okay. There's a little bit. There's a little bit. But they got rocks. Well, we get yelled at when we're like off by even a little bit if we overgeneralize, right? So like, there's no magnetosphere on the moon. Well, technically... Right? One of those. Yeah. Well, actually... Fundamentally, I know. Fundamentally, my statement is right. But technically... Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Right? Yeah. Also, just in that same camp, Juno was made with a different material, not for solar weather, but because of the radiation charging on the outside that would have happened near Jupiter. Yes. So it was a really cool spacecraft because it wasn't the normal gold color. It was like this weird... Yep. It looked like it was wrapped in duct tape. Yeah. Because it was wrapped in duct tape. Wouldn't that be amazing? Solves everything. The duct tape together is fine. Yeah, it's fine. Send it to Jupiter. It'll be great. It'll be good. It's fine. We don't need to worry about it. Just 27,000 mile per hour tape. Yeah. It's okay. The tape's good. I don't think... I went to Home Depot and there was 27,000 mile per hour duct tape. You know that's the tape I'm buying. All right, everybody. Whether I need it or not, I want to buy the 27,000 mile per hour duct tape. We're done taping it up. Did anybody check the valve on the engine? No, we already did. Okay. We don't need to check that again. It's fine. Too soon. That was six years ago. Two years ago. Two years ago. Too soon. Oh, my God. We're making the mission last longer than we expected. Fun factoid. We actually got to see Juno. Carrie Ann and I, we saw it on the ground before they were buttoning it up for flight when we were space vidcast, when we were down there for STS. I don't remember. Some shuttle. Some shuttle. We actually had an opportunity to see it down there and Jim Adams. This is before social media was a thing. It wasn't what it is today. And so we were fighting to become press on the press site because there weren't, there weren't tweet ups. There was none of that stuff. And KSC really wanted to keep us out. And so he worked at NASA HQ and he was like, no, you need to let these kids in. And so it was really cool. And look at us now. Yep. And then NASA like was big and scary with our ITAR and stuff. And they tried to scare us away. And Jim was like, you're fine. Yeah. It's like, you don't intimidate me. Yeah, kind of. You fools. You fools. Yeah. There was something I was going to say but I don't remember. Oh yeah. Another thing about Juno as well, because it's in such a high radiation environment, they actually built all of the main components. Don't you mean was in a high radiation environment? No, it's still operating at Jupiter. Oh, you didn't get sucked back into the... No, I think that's... What is that? The late 2020s they're going to do that? Oh, wow. So it's still orbiting. For some reason I thought it was done. I thought it went... No, it's still going. Cassini is the one that most recently did it in 2017. That's out at Saturn. Really? Your radiation hasn't heard anything with that out there. Jupiter, yes. Oh my gosh. Jupiter is just like a radiation monster. And they put the main electronics and the instrumentation inside of what they called the vault, which was a big thing of titanium that they were put in. So basically the radiation doesn't penetrate the titanium. As part of the conspiracy it wasn't actually titanium. Yeah. It's made of unobtainium. Ah, okay. I see how it works. I don't want you to know that that material exists. Yeah. It's unobtainium now. Yeah. That's true. It's true. Where did they find it at? The LA River? How many core references can we get into one show? I don't know. Core, the best worst sci-fi movie of all time. Ryan, have you seen the core? I haven't seen the entire thing. I've seen clips there. Okay. Well, that's your homework, Ryan. There you go. You've got things to do. So there you go. There you go. I interrupted your Juno. Yeah. The vault. The vault. Titanium in the vault. Yeah. Well, it's got a titanium vault to prevent radiation from frying it. So, yeah. There you go. Okay. Cool. Anyways. Glad we covered that. Thanks. Thanks. Starwatcher likes our set. Thank you very much. This is Planet Calf behind us. Thank you. And if you ever show up in person, this is not a green screen. I can go on a space walk if you want to, but this is a legitimate... I can throw things at that and it will bounce back. This will all... I wonder if I can... Welcome to the show. Welcome to the show, Starwatcher Steven. Oh my gosh. By the way, Starwatcher, this is the casual fun space nerd show. This is not the space news show. For that, look for our space news segments, which are far more professional, although I'm trying. Oh my God. You need to speak at one-third the rate. I know you want to get everything into one space news episode. Just cut it in half and release it as two episodes, backed back. You can schedule releases. I was listening and I was like... I was just concentrating on everything he was saying. I'm like, oh my God. It's so many words. You've got to take notes. So many words plus an accent. Plus an accent. Well... That's it. That's a huge problem. Yeah, it's a huge problem. I mean, we just... I don't understand a word you're saying. I don't even know what you just told me. Speak faster. Speak faster. Sure. Speak faster. Sure. Oh God. Challenge accepted. Oxyabzko says, zoomer's process audio faster. You can take that. I don't know. I don't know if that's a fact or not. I was taking a drink. Oh my God. And data processes button pressing slower. I was about to say Gen Xers don't process button pushing. Have you seen the number of buttons that are here? No. Yeah. Show us. Count them. One by one. Count them all. Those are levers. These are levers. These are levers. These are levers. Those are sliders. Those are buttons. Yeah. Where's the flanges? Hey, what does that button do? Which one fires the Death Star? This one. He's not wrong. It was... It was... It was the... It's this one right here. I think it was actually... Oh, they went up, didn't they? I don't remember. For those who don't know, it really was a video switcher on the Death Star. It really was. It was a Grass Valley. And I keep thinking it's a Grass Valley 300 series, but it's something that predates the 300 and I don't remember what it is. But yeah. If anyone here is going to know that... 30. Hang on. I can look it up. I look it up once. Well, why don't you do that? Why don't me and Ryan talk about Polaris here a little bit. So... I'll forget about that. That's probably not very good, but I did forget about that, so let's talk about that. You know, because it's not terrible, I actually forgot about it, too. And then I was like, wait, what are you... Oh, yes. We should probably talk about that one hour into our program. Yeah. Jared Isaacman bought a couple more flights, actually a couple three flights, if I remember correctly. Two more dragons. That'd be six. Yeah. It's just three. What? Just three. Yeah. He said a couple three. Yeah, a couple three. That's two times three. Young man. A couple three is a... It's a couple... It's a couple three divided by two. Okay, so we had... He has no concept of Southern language. No. Yeah, it's all right. So, well, I mean, I don't either, it's just words I picked up on from people. That's Southern language. Is it? Yeah. Oh, I didn't know that. Interesting. So, I mean, it's just... I've always... I've said it quite often. It was a Grass Valley 1600. Thanks. Anyways, talking about Polaris. Thanks for that one. So, we have two dragon flights and one starship flight, if I recall correctly. Well, I don't want to be a bummer, but on the website, it says up to three flights. Hopefully, it's three flights, but it does say up to three flights, but everyone's saying it's three flights. So, let's just say it's three flights and they're going to be the first grown starship, which will be... I wouldn't put myself into that cruise. I'd definitely be on number two, but if you want to be number one, then be number one. I don't know the answer to this, and I probably should, but where does Dear Moon fit into all of this? Later. I don't know. Dear Moon. Well, I... Because Dear Moon was announced on Starship before Polaris was, wasn't it? I know, but it depends if the Polaris III mission, if the contract for that specifically says this will be the first crewed starship mission. If it doesn't say that, then Dear Moon could be first, but Polaris have already said that it's going to be the first crewed ones. So, if they're saying that and they're confident in that, I would presume it's a contractual thing that they will be the first crewed starship flight, but then again, on their website, it does say up to three missions. So, it's not very clear at the moment, to be honest, but I would presume Dear Moon would come after Polaris III. Yeah, I would imagine they need to shake down, a real big shake down of Starship before you launch Dear Moon with that. So, yeah. What's this here? Launchpad, saying the Polaris Starship might not go to the Moon, could be the first ever low Earth orbit where Dear Moon will be the first crew around the Moon. Yeah, sounds about right. I believe that'll be what the case is. That makes sense. It'll just go to Leo, or maybe a bit higher then. Maybe, kind of like Mio, kind of levels, maybe, possibly, but like, severely down it'll go all the way out to the Moon. Let's go to Geo, and we'll just like hang out over one part of the Earth. Yeah, but you want to see it all. Do you? You pay for a space trip. You want to see a lot of the Earth. Yeah, that's true. You don't want to just see one part of the Earth. That's true. No, you might as well just sit on Google Maps for an hour or whatever. Yeah, but it would be cooler to see Google Maps for realsies. I think I would want to Apollo 8 or Land on the Moon. Yeah. Apollo 8. Yeah, you wouldn't want to actually step foot on the Moon? Maybe, but I think my... Because I mean, if you're stepping foot on the Moon, you're also kind of, you have, it's assumed you're orbiting as well, right? I don't think you would have to, depending on what your orbit is. You could do the direct asset route, but then you're going to have, you know, you're going to have a ton of payload in order to do that, right? I feel like you would orbit at least once the Moon. I remember for Apollo, they originally wanted to do direct asset. Basically just bang zoom to the Moon and then land on the Moon on approach. Yeah, I don't know. I'm just assuming like, but Apollo orbited? Yes. The reason Apollo orbited was to do final checks before they separated their craft. If your craft doesn't need to separate to land, then you would not need that step. So theoretically you could do direct. But if you're doing a sightseeing tour, then you need the step, right? Yeah. So like you could still orbit the Moon and step foot on the Moon, right? Like this is a technical thing. This is a campaign to go to the Moon. Oh, by the way, you get an orbit around the Moon too. It's part of your ticket. And Apollo 8 didn't just like go around the backside of the Moon. They got into orbit on the Moon. So they did several laps around the Moon before they came back. So they went to the Moon bedunkedunk. Yes. Did that a couple of times. Yeah. Then they came back. Went around the Moon like day. That was the Christmas mission. Day, Moon, you thick. Dang. Someone called me that on Twitter the other day when they saw the picture of me. They're like, yeah, but now you're thick. I'm like, I'm working on it. I'm sorry. But also high orbits apparently on those dragon flights. I'm going to be kicking it up a little bit. So yeah, that's, uh, they go, they go get me. I'm just, I'm trying to think of it the best way to just spit this all out. So they went kind of high with inspiration for, but they want to go even higher. Kind of. I think three times high. Yeah. Kind of high. Hold up. Hold up. I want to know what you define as high. Inspiration for when, uh, it went, it's, they went the highest anyone has gone in the 21st century on Polaris. All kind of high. Polaris wants to beat that. The Gemini records that were set by going at 1500 kilometers in altitude or something ridiculous like that. Yeah. The only thing I don't understand is they're going to be, and I quote kind of using the maximum performance dragon and Falcon has Falcons maximum performance is fully expendable. But Jared said they're not fully expending it. So I, I haven't looked and say like really detailed at the numbers, but I can't understand how it's, how they're going to do that. I just, I just can't get it. Yeah. But you're saying that inspiration for is orbit like wasn't high. No, it's kind of high. It was kind of high. And then the next is fairly high. It was, it was Polaris goes, so we start with inspiration for compared to inspiration for, this is going to be pretty high. Inspiration for was still high. Right. Can we get your, can we get your standard? Extra high. Extra high. Okay. Okay. So that's, so we, we were pretty high before. Now we're going to extra high. When you go to the moon, what, what is that? What is that? Is that? It's like a super duper high. Voyagers kind of, kind of far away. Yeah. It's like it's a little, it's a little. Voyagers ultra high. Ultra high. See, to me, anything that flies higher than the International Space Station, that's a, that's a pretty up there orbit. In my opinion, just because of how little we've actually flown above that altitude as humans, you know, most of the time either the people that are flying higher than that are, are, they've been on, they've gone to the moon. So are they following those Gemini missions or they've gone to Hubble with shuttle, which Hubble put shuttle right at the limit of its capabilities. So in some of those missions, the margins were so razor thin that the, the chances of failure were one in single digits. Thank goodness they didn't have an STS-93 event on the way up, though. That, that would not have worked. Yeah. I remember, what was it, for STS-61, which was the first repair mission, they put the, the chance of a catastrophic issue occurring at one in three for that. Oh. In case anybody wants to know what the statistic was. Wow. Because Story Musgrave told that point blank to me. So when I, when I got to meet him and spend a quality evening with him. So technically it was one in one total success. So. It was. Technically. Yeah, technically. So that fact is wrong. After it was accomplished. Yes. After it was accomplished, but it's already been accomplished. So if, if you look at it that way, it is one in one total mission success. Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. Ryan, we need, Klaus and Dot already flashes up on the screen, but I, I do want to reiterate Klaus thinks we need a chart. We need to know what your, yeah, what your levels of height are. So if inspiration for was like kind of high, we need to know like what altitudes are like kind of sort of pretty high, very high. Like we need to map that out so we can, we can use that chart in future episodes. We need to know how in hi-nated each one of those things is. Also, I love this community. The fact that you're using made up words. This is fantastic. They're just, they're just, they're vocabulary. Also, there was an interesting point, which is when there's a celestial body here, Joe said it. You stop nesting height when another celestial body gets in between, right? So with, so technically speaking, if you landed on the moon, you would actually be low, right? Yes. Because you're on the, so you would, so landing on the moon is less high than Polaris. I need a chart. Stop, stop. I mean, I see an altitude on the moon, but you're more an altitude in relative to the earth. We need a chart, Ryan. Well, there is a point, right? Ryan, how do you like your steak? Medium, right? An aristocrat. Medium? Not kind, not kind of rare. All right, all right. All right. We're done with this. We're done with this. And then the first private spacewalk as well. That's set to occur. I'm, I'm wrongly, I think I'm more excited about the new space than the actual spacewalk itself because we've seen people spacewalk before, but seeing like actual non, I say not trained, they are trained, but not astronaut, astronauts. Set as an astronaut. Doing a spacewalk. Non-professional astronauts. Non-professional, not their career astronauts. Doing a spacewalk. I think that, like, you, that, that will be something that people will look at and be like, I'm not an astronaut. I'm not a professional astronaut. That could be me. You said it was sort of, was it sort, it was sort of high, right? And they're these sort of astronauts. Same, same scale. How dare you denigrate their accomplishments? No. They're not weird astronauts. They only did, like, what, seven months of training. This isn't, they're not real. They are, too. They just, yes they are. They are, too. No, they went, they crossed the Carmen line. The difference is that this isn't what they do for a living. So they're citizen astronauts because this is not their day job as opposed to NASA astronauts where it is their day job. Professional. Professional astronauts, exactly. But I would argue they're still absolutely astronauts. Yes. Right, like. They're not sitting there watching a screen and then floating around for six minutes. They're actually doing something in significance. So. Oh, this is an interesting point. Aravail says, Jared Isaacman will soon have more flight experience than many NASA astronauts. That's true. That is a true statement. He's going to become the, he's going to become the first person and only person for a while who has flown on Dragon twice. More than once. And then he might become the first person to fly on it three times. He might. Yeah. Four times. That is a possibility, depending how far out Polaris is. Polaris two is. Two Polaris one. Yeah. And actually this is another really good point, which is from Shaolin Funk. Amateurs can be more proficient than professionals. Professional just means you do it for a job. Yeah, but nobody wants to be called an amateur astronaut. I mean, or wear it with pride. I don't know. Right? I mean, you're not wrong. And in this year's pro-am astronaut thing. Also, Brad remains on fire once twice, three times an astronaut. That's pretty good. Oh, yeah. That's great. The biggest difference is that Jared isn't being paid to fly the spaceship. He's paying to fly the spaceship. Gentleman astronaut. Gotcha. So, sorry. It's really confusing hearing people say Jared. Sorry. Jared's flying the spaceship. I'm like, what am I doing? Wait, unrelated. Daniel is asking when is tomorrow's eighth birthday? We're in orbit 15. So, seven years ago? Right? Yes. It's been a hot minute. I mean, I'm counting space vidcasts to be fair, but like, yeah. All right. Sorry. I derailed this again. That's just my thing I'm doing. Sorry. We were just talking about what makes someone an astronaut. Do we have more on Polaris or are we wrapping up here? I think that's all we have on Polaris. So far, yeah. We don't have a lot. It's just like when inspiration falls initially unveiled, we don't have a lot, but we do know what the core parts of the mission will be. I actually like this comment from Johnny Spacer, which is, Jared Isaacman has a friggin MiG-29, has a private Air Force commander to drag in spacecraft and never went to college. Yep. Yeah. Don't. So, kids, don't go to school. No. That's not what that means. Call Air Force. Just buy a bunch of MiGs. And you'll be able to fly planes. You'll fly cool spaceships around. So, don't go to school and fly spaceships. You know, I think that the moral of the story is not don't go to school. The moral of the story is figure out what works for you and find that pathway and be really good. Everyone is good at something. They're phenomenal at something. Find that and go with it. Yep. So some of us are really great. The views of Ryan do not represent those of tomorrow. Drop out. Fly spaceships. Sorry. It's just funny hearing that. Tweets are his own. Yeah. My opinions are mine, mine alone and better than yours. Oh, man. All right. On that note, should we wrap this thing up? Yeah. Like, Ryan is getting tired. You can see him falling asleep. It's the wind. He's got the wind knocked out of him. For those who don't know, what was the maximum wind gust where you're at, Ryan? Well, not where I am, but in the country, the maximum wind gust was like 120 miles an hour. And it was like where I am, it was like a constant wind speed of about 45 miles an hour. So that's nothing to sneeze at. That's a lot of... That's a lot of wind. Lot of wind. Lot of wind. That's pretty Hempkin Wimby out there. All right. On that note, I'd like to thank everyone so much for watching and for being members of the show. Membership is a way that you can help us financially to continue to do this week after week, month after month. Now, if the live show is not your jam, and I totally understand, and you prefer the news, you know, the membership helps our news program as well. You know, make sure... You get your name in that as well. You get your name in all of the things. These are escape velocity. Actually, so I subscribe to our own channel, my own channel, which is why I'm at the end of the list. But I wanted to make sure that the experience, like, I needed to really, truly understand the experience, which is why I did that. One of the things for escape velocity members, one other change I've started doing is in the description of the video. We've also added your name there. So if you look at the description for this video, not on the... The name in two places. Yes. So you get your name literally in the show, and you get your name in the description of the video. Yep. You are now enabling the search for this video with your name. Oh, God. For better or worse, you're getting your name in the description. We also have our orbital subscribers or members, and these are people, you know, every one of these levels is a contribution. Excuse me. Contribution. You can pick a level that makes the most sense to you. We also have suborbital. You can tell which one costs the most because the list gets longer and longer as we... And then, of course, our ground support subscribers. And ground support, this is like $5 a month, which I want to say was like one coffee in Britain. Is that what you determined? Oh, no, no, no. That was system support was like two coffees or less than one. I don't remember. It depends. It depends where you want to buy your coffee, to be honest. I think if you go to like a Costa or Starbucks, other coffee retail chains are available. It might be like, I don't know, maybe ground support is like 1.2, 1.3 coffees. Yeah, so like, just give up one coffee and you're good on ground support. But if you don't want to do that, if you don't want to do that, there's also system support. Now, system support, you don't get your name in the show, but that is $1 a month. And if every single person who's subscribed to our YouTube channel was a system support member, we'd be set. We'd be rich. We would not be rich, Ryan. But we'd be able to do a lot more with the show. Yes. Yeah, we appreciate it. And if you can't, if I can't afford it, like Daniel McCool says, once I get a job, we'll be throwing money at you guys. Yeah, you know, we really appreciate it. But like, there are people who just simply can't afford it, totally understand. I totally get that. Yeah. There are still ways you can help the show. Simply like and subscribe. It's that it doesn't cost you anything other than like two mouse clicks. Those subscriber accounts help us with the algorithm. Thanks, Carlos. Oh, yeah, thank you for upgrading your membership, Carlos. All of that helps us a great deal. It takes money to keep the lights on, to pay for bandwidth, to pay for studio space, to build a space station set. And then, you know, we had to fly the space, like we needed it to be realistic, so we flew it to space. And then we had to develop anti-gravity technology. Yeah, this is a pain. All of this costs money. The maintenance on the artificial gravity plating. Man, do you know how many MiG-29s we had to trade to get this? It is. It's high upfront costs. Exactly. I hope you are. 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