 I can feel it in the water, I can feel it in the air, some things that shouldn't be on the show. We're lost. However that goes, I don't know, I'm mangling the code, I know. Like that. Sure. Babies do win today. When do we hear from Roger? Oh, the babies came Monday night. Babies, babies out. Babies out. Yeah, no, I told you that earlier. Oh, I thought you said he was just going in for it. No, no, Monday night they had the baby. Oh, all right. Sorry. No, no, no. I misunderstood. I thought he was still there. She was perhaps in the throws, as they say. Oh, good. He's that baby two days old. Out is better than in at this stage. Yeah. Nine months in. That's when you want. You know what they say about babies, better out than in. Yep. Is that what they say? I don't think so. Actually. It's the day here I'm concerned about. Uh-huh. Hee-hee. Okay. We've only we've only reset show about twice now, so we're still waiting for a third person to just make sure it's completely clear. Chobot. Chobot. Chobot. I apologize for my thousand-yard stare. I no longer sleep because of this dog. So the dog wants to be in the room with you and because it's not at wines all night. Is that the shape of it? Yeah. Yeah. Do you hate more that or that Tom knows all of this? I hate anything that wants to cling that closely to me. Oh, all right then. This is this is not. That she means the fact that I know it. Right. Yeah. It's it's not it's not a good dynamic. We're not having we're not having a good time. I'm sorry. It's okay. I think the interesting thing is that every other day she's happy and then like it's so she's got a day where it's like something amazing happened in the next day like I haven't slept and it's yeah it's so parenting. I don't want to be a parent. How much you say? I don't want to see you. It's anyway. Most people get a dog to not have to be a parent. You sit down in a kind of Seinfeld. I don't want to be a pirate kind of way. Right. Generally enjoyed. Yeah. I don't want to be a pirate. Well, we're going to take your mind off it with amazing stories of watches today. Yes. Indeed. Indeed. Mm-hmm. Mill STD. Wait, do you say STD? Because that sounds like something else. Like an STD. Mill standard, military standard. I think you can get away with it. Uh, what? Mill standard 810 certified and water resistant. That'll work. Mill STD 810 is the number of CCs you need to get that taken care of. Am I right? Okay. Yes, you're right. Mm-hmm. What's the deal with airline food? I'm ready to do the show if you are also ready to do the show. I am. Indeed. Okay. Sarah, can you read line three? Of course. Here we go. Three, two. Thanks to everyone who supports Daily Tech News Show directly. To find out more, head to dailytechnewshow.com slash supports. This is the Daily Tech News for Wednesday, August 29th, 2018 in Los Angeles. I'm Tom Merritt. And from Studio Feline, I'm Sarah Lane. And one dog. Hey, from Studio, I don't know what's going on here. I'm Scott Johnson. How are you? I'm great. How are you? We're all fine here. Of course, filling in for Roger Chang, our producer, Anthony Lemos. How's it going, Amos? Hey, guys. We are going to talk about the hot new trend in technology. Smart watches. I know it's not new, maybe not even that hot. But it is all over the EFA conference going on in Berlin. So let's start with a few other tech things you should know. Fossil subsidiary Skog and announced the Falster 2 smartwatch with health tracking features and a swim proof case attached to a magnetic steel mesh strap. Contains a heart rate monitor, support for Google Fit, GPS and Google Pay. A built-in NFC chip and two programmable side buttons. Runs on the two-year-old Snapdragon Wear 2100 chip starting at $275 and shipping September 12th. Nancy. Also, Nintendo announced Dragalia. Sorry, the full name is Dragalia Lost. It's a new RPG coming out September 27th in Japan, Hong Kong and Macau, the US and Taiwan. Now, if you haven't heard of this, that's because it is Nintendo's first mobile game based on new characters ever. It looks very much like Final Fantasy to me with real-time combat and the trailer is up for all to see. It will help if you speak Japanese because currently there is no translated or localized version of the trailer, but it's coming and whether it will be any good or not, we'll have to wait and see. Acer announced a new Swift 7 laptop with a 92% screen-to-body ratio, 10mm thick wing less than 2.2 pounds that Acer wants to call the world's thinnest laptop. Acer also announced a mixed-reality headset, the Ojo 500. It has modular parts so the lens and head strap can be removed and cleaned. Great for museums or arcades, attractions like that. It has a 100-degree field of view and a sound pipe for hearing audio without headphones, though if you opt for the hard strap, there's a soft and a hard version, the hard strap comes with built-in headphones. The OJO 500 will be available in the US and Europe in November starting at $399. Oh, Acer also showed off a ridiculous slash awesome gaming chair called the Predator Thronos. Get it? Because it's a throne. It's 1.5 meters tall, reclines 140 degrees and will be released by the end of the year, they say. I want that chair so bad, but it's never going to happen. But I just want to put it out there that I want it. That's it. Well, Christmas? Christmas? Right around the corner, Scott. The airline Air Canada warned that around 20,000 users of its app may have had passport information stolen if they had entered it into the system. Credit card information was apparently encrypted though. Air Canada detected unusual login activity between August 22nd and 24th and has since locked down all accounts. First of all, encrypt all the information that you don't want stolen. Second of all, passport information. That can cause identity theft. That would bother me more than credit card information. Possibly, because you can just cancel a credit card. Exactly. Hey, folks, let's talk a little more about announcements from IFA. What's Dell got for us, Scott? Well, Dell used IFA to announce something pretty big. They announced the Inspiron Chromebook 14, 2-in-1. And by 2-in-1, we'll get to that in a second. It has an all metal body. Now, there's some confusion on TMS this morning about what metal. It appears to be aluminum. It's not iron. Yes, it's not iron. A 14-inch touchscreen weighs less than four pounds and comes with an active pen. That's the part I'm interested in. It runs on a Core i3 processor, UHD 620 graphics, four gigabyte of RAM and a 64 gig of storage. This is coming October 23rd for $599. You can also opt in for the 128 gig of storage. Pretty standard jump. Dell also updated its Inspiron 7000 and 5000 line of convertible laptops with fingerprint readers and Amazon voice support shipping October 2nd. All the new laptops, including the Chromebook, have a new thermal management system, which vents behind the hinges or width rather. Dell also updated the XPS and Vastro laptop lines and has a new 27-inch monitor with USB-C connectivity available right now for $550. Of all the things on here, it's the Chromebook and that monitor. I'm the most interested in it. It's great to see Dell doing cool announcements at this conference. Yeah. That Chromebook is a nice Chromebook. Usually Chromebooks come in two flavors, cheap and the one Google makes. So, seeing Dell come in with something at the top of the line is pretty interesting. Like you say, it's got that all metal body, but it's still lightweight, so it's strong. It's not plasticky. That venting, which I know is also on the other Inspiron laptops, is pretty cool because you don't know it's there. It basically looks like a ventless laptop, but because it's behind the hinges, it's disguised. You'll never even see it. Apparently, from everybody who's looked at this seems to work just fine. Yeah. I hope this is a model that will do the thing I hope I see from Chromebooks. There's a lot of talk at Google I.O. and in other places about these becoming devices that people could use to draw with, to create art with, to do quick sketch-up type work. Right now, that space, at least portably, is very much dominated by iPad Pros and the pencils. I'm always on the look for something out there that might start to compare with those. It'd be cool to see if this did. I have so many questions about Chrome OS's attempt to have the right software for people like me. I don't have a whole lot of confidence in that at the moment, but I really like Chromebooks generally speaking. We have one in the house here that everybody uses so this is great. I don't think that price is too bad if you compare it to its closest quality competitor, which would be the Google offering. I think this looks great for $599. And the other notable thing is Amazon Voice Support showing up alongside Cortana, which is going to be happening more often. We're seeing it more often at EFA because of the partnership between Microsoft and Amazon. It's not a combative situation. The two can play off each other and you can tell one to have the other do something and vice versa. You're going to see Amazon even though Google's name is all over EFA. All the banners say Google Assistant on them. Amazon is showing up in a lot of products. Let's move on to Audio. Sonos released the $600 Sonos amp, which is an upgrade to its Connect amp and anyone's familiar with that. The Sonos amp connects to up to four speakers in the Sonos platform, including existing Sonos speakers. If you already have a setup, that's probably music to your ears. It also has a line in for CD players, turntables, or other audio devices. Multiple amps can all talk to each other as well. Now, notable features that are new include improved power output, an HDMI, ARC port, and a subwoofer port. Sonos also announced plans to grant third-party apps and connected home interfaces greater control over Sonos devices, including preview phase audio notifications. So connected devices can send notifications and alerts to your Sonos speakers. Notably, this is not going through Amazon Voice Control. This is Sonos' own thing. You can use your Sonos Amazon Voice things if they're focused to then control things that way, but it doesn't have Amazon Voice in it itself. Great thing that's interesting here is they are targeting this towards professional installers. You'll be able to buy this directly in December through the Sonos website, but they're not sending it to retail right away. They're marking it directly to the folks who come in and say, okay, let me help you design a system for your home, because they think, most consumers just want to pick up and put it in a home installation. That's when you might need this. So they're not preventing you from if you're a DIY person. You can definitely get it right from Sonos, but it's not their priority, which I think is an interesting move for them. It certainly is tempting to get one of these things too, because of the HDMI arc. That simplifies a lot of things. And being able to add your own speakers. The only reason I'm probably not going to run right out and try to get one of these is I have I don't have really high quality speakers to hook up to this, but if you do, this is a great way to move Sonos into your life in a way that doesn't sacrifice the audio quality. I agree. I've always liked what Sonos is doing. I feel like if they would have come to me 12 years ago, I would have been all over everything they do. I'm so earbuds, Bluetooth and small screens in my life now that I don't worry as much about home audio and it kind of bums me out because that's not the guy I knew a decade ago. I feel like I missed the boat by not caring now and it's too bad because I think this stuff is super cool. I couldn't justify it. Well, somebody who uses Sonos speakers, I have several in my house and I love the interface, although their app could be better, but that's a story for another day. I love the idea of Sonos makes its own sub, which I actually have been planning on buying, but the fact that there's a subwoofer port for the sub that I actually already have, okay, if you're kind of on the fence and something's, it's a $600 investment, but you have a lot of gear and this will allow your existing gear to hook up to your Sonos system that more easily. That's pretty attractive. And I think it just shows that Sonos is doing what they need to do to stay relevant. A lot of people thought when smart speakers started to come along, well, maybe Sonos is over. They're definitely not and they're doing a lot of the things to differentiate themselves, which are cool. One of the things we like to do on this show is alert you to possible coming trends, things that will make you feel smarter in the room in the future when you're like, oh yeah, I knew about that a while ago. There's a company called DFINITY that wants to create decentralized computing resources. Cloud 3.0 is what they call it, but they're basically using blockchain tech to compete with companies like Amazon Web Services and Salesforce. This isn't cryptocurrency. This isn't even the IBM style of blockchain for fintech or shipping. This is them doing what I've imagined could happen for a long time, which is trying to create a decentralized cloud, which means you don't have a data center anymore, but it's still reliable and it's still secure. DFINITY is not the first one to attempt this, but they are getting the attention of the funders. They got 102 million dollars from Andreessen Horowitz, well in part from Andreessen Horowitz on Wednesday, and they are being smart about it. They're not just out there trying to drum up buzzwords or do crazy demos. They're going to academic organizations. They're going to startups and saying, okay, we know that the big enterprises aren't going to trust us out of the gate. We want to prove ourselves with you guys, and then hopefully we'll be able to scale up to have a world computer that is reliable, secure, and cheaper than AWS, Google, etc. You talked about this a lot on the show, and I know you know I talked about it a bunch, but blockchain type technologies becoming more a part of our everyday mainstream functionality and the lack of a better way of saying that just seems like it's inevitable. And I go back to BitTorrent sometimes, because BitTorrent has all these amazing uses outside of what people think of it as, which is a piracy method, but really it ended up powering a whole lot of ways of getting files back and forth. This feels like that's happening. I'm really stoked to hear about this, even though I still don't fully understand it. I can't really get my head around it. I'll just keep going on Wednesdays until I do, but I'm excited about this idea, because it seems like we can get it out of the realm of it's just Bitcoin, it's just everybody's opinions about what this stuff means when you hear the word blockchain and start to see it in everyday practical business and personal business. And Definity is not just using blockchain. Blockchain is one of the things they're using. They're using a whole suite of open source software as well to create a decentralized system, and that is important to keep in mind. I agree. Facebook, watch nothing to do with wearables, you guys. Launched in the U.S. a year ago and is now launching in more countries. Facebook also introduced ad breaks to more publishers that can be pre-roll, mid-roll or images below the video. Facebook also launched Creator Studio for users to manage their content across Facebook and Instagram. Of course, Instagram owned by Facebook. Watch is now coming to UK, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand with 21 more countries next month with more to follow that. I mean, does anybody know what Facebook Watch is best for yet? No, certainly not. They have users, they have people watching it, so it's obviously good for something. Right here in the U.S., they've got, what, 55 million streams or something like that. Like, it's not unpopular. And obviously they feel like it's worth it to start selling it more and spreading it around. Although, you know, without giving any names away, I know some folks who were soft launch partners of Facebook Watch in the U.S., I don't know, within the last year, and they're all sort of confused as to what it is and what Facebook wants from it. So I think it's safe to say that the company is still soft launching this, you know, whatever the worldwide rollout is. I don't think anybody knows more about what Facebook is looking to do than we do. 50 million monthly viewers viewing up by 14 times since the beginning of the year. That's not bad, but if you look at the overall numbers, Facebook is a 2 billion user enterprise. That's a tiny, tiny drop. A very small percentage, isn't it? Yeah, I mean just considering how big it overall is, so maybe that's still okay. You don't ignore those numbers even though percentage-wise they're lower and obviously they're not, they're pushing to make this bigger, I don't know, it just seems like I haven't heard anybody talking about it and you hear about every little trend, every little change on Facebook, I hear somebody say something about it and you just don't hear people talking about it. Well and I, you know, I know that Facebook is interested in figuring out, okay, how do we make people's timelines less crowded, how do we make them more relevant, focus on friends, focus on relationships, maybe put the video stuff in its own area and teach people to go there. I'm not sure Facebook is totally dedicated to doing that yet because nobody really knows oh okay, if I'm not looking at my timeline, where am I going to watch all this video? All right. Agreed. All right, well let's talk about Google announcing the redesign where OS 1.6 which highlights notifications and Google Fit information. Notifications live in a single panel, users can scroll through and swipe horizontally to dismiss. Google Assistant is now a left swipe from the watch face and Fit to the right. Google Streams proactive tab is now to the left of the home screen and the company will begin rolling out to any watch with Android Wear 2.0 or newer over the next month. So some of this stuff is just really stream lighting notifications and a lot of the articles that I read about it today compared it to Android as a phone. They're saying they're making the watch where OS work more like a phone as far as notifications, which I mean honestly I don't know about you all but that seems to be one of the major reasons people wear watches is notifications. There's health monitoring aspects and fitness monitoring aspects and Google Fit being front and center makes sense. We talked about the redesign to the Google Fit information that's being delivered both to iOS and Android earlier on the show, previously on the show. So it makes sense that they would want to really, really redesign those particular things since those are the major use cases. Yeah, it feels like Apple is kind of about that also. It seems like I can't speak to what they're doing with whatever series 4 might be but even the 3 the way they positioned it was much less about the elegant choice for watch wears everywhere and the software and the stuff you can have on there in apps. They seem to have backed away from that and said hey you can swim with it. It's waterproof. It's a major fitness device and it's huge notifications thing and if you're using your iPhone you're going to use your watch and guess what basically with my usage of this watch over the year I've had it or whatever, that's exactly what I'm using it for. I use it for fitness tracking and I use it for notifications and I control podcasts through it and if there's music playing I can hit play on it, turn the volume up and down with the knob. Like it's a phone accessory that does those things really well and I think it makes sense that Google would also lean into that and I for one am very happy about it. I also just like that they have an aesthetic that lets you make a round watch. I'm totally into that. I think that looks really cool. That is part of the design challenge for Android and I saw some people remarking on the fact that because Apple has a square design and that's it, it is easier for them to do a lot of these things because Android Wear OS I should say has to work on both round and square formats. Right. In one way or the other I think that this is just of course they're going to lean in this way. I think that's what people buy them. I think this is the natural thing that we probably should have seen coming because who knows wearables are new still sort of we don't know what's good for what and as it turns out they're not great for individual standalone apps. You'd rather just use your phone. It's faster but they're great for oh my mom's calling what a sheen you had I'll do a quick speaker thing my thing or whatever and it's great to see that stuff settle down. Oh, who knows. Folks if you want to get all the tech headlines and dot com a quick way to stay smart enough to date. Alright. We're not done with the watch announcements. Casio announced the Protect WSD F30 Wear OS smart watch. It's Mill Standard 810 certified water resistant up to 50 meters. There's a new 1.2 inch 390 by 390 pixel color OLED display and a second monochrome display that shows things like atmospheric altitude and compass bearing has a more flexible band than the previous model. All the the bells and whistles Bluetooth 4.1 LE Wi-Fi wireless charging GPS upper-rometer and accelerometer a gyrometer a compass a sensor coming in orange blue and black when it ships starting January 2019. Now, I didn't forget top stories was over and just kept doing it. Diesel also has a new watch out. It has a neon face and it's big. This is all pointing to the fact that smart watch announcements are coming fast and furious at IFA. IFA is the big tech conference of the fall sort of the opposite CES over in Europe. Back in March, we reported that IDC estimated worldwide shipments of smart watches and activity trackers grew 7.7% in Q4 and 10% overall in 2017. Shipments have hit 115.4 million units overall. So with the dominance of smart watch announcements coming out of IFA and this previous shipping data we've been talking about come on y'all, smart watches are for real, right? This is a real product category. Scott, do you wear a smart watch every day? Yeah, I'm on right here. It's the series 3 Apple Watch. I'm kind of an iPhone guy so it made sense for me. Sure. I have from afar kind of admired aesthetically anyway what's been going on with Google Wear but never really made the jump before the set of Fitbit and it did a fine job of doing fitness tracking but it was pretty lackluster when it came to notification management and that sort of stuff. And it's gotten to the point now where I really do feel weird if I don't have it. I thought I would probably be one of those that would get it. I would have the experience of it and then go it's not really, I mean I'm still, I'm not even saying it's worth the money yet. Like I'm still not sure it's worth the cash you shell out for these things. For what it does, but for what it does I've gotten used to it to the point where I would much prefer to have this on than not really receiving texts, getting calls that I didn't know about, other apps sending notifications to the watch. So my experience has been very strong and probably means I'm in for the long haul as to, well maybe not Apple in specific but what the wearable and smart watch market looks like moving forward like I think I'm in. If you had asked me a year and a half ago I think I was not in. So I've just proved some of the pudding growing piece of the market from all indicators and all of these announcements seem to lean toward the idea that many are getting in and they all look like really interesting opportunities for a lot of different kinds of companies. So yeah, to answer your question in a more simple way, I can't believe it but I really like my smartwatch. I wish they were not called smartwatches sort of in the same way I wish that they were not called smart phones because they are little computers who do one thing that's a legacy thing that we're all used to but actually that's not really what it's about. You're not wearing your smartwatch because you want to tell the time all the time right? No, I got a phone for that. Yeah, exactly. That's the reason that I don't have one. It's not only because I'm like well it's not really a watch it's so many other things. I get the idea that it's very helpful and notifications are great. I want fewer notifications in my life. I have an actual watch, a dumb watch, that I never wear because again the phone is never far away from me. Some people leave their phones at home that's never happened to me, won't happen you know it's like not wearing underwear I will always have my phone with me. Right, exactly. So in that sense I'm like oh it's just I don't know it fills me with a little bit of notification stress I guess. Well here's the thing let me answer to that specifically and Tom may have experienced this as well I I agree with you less notifications, less being on all the time like that's probably a good thing and that's what I thought I was maybe this was going to be a mistake for that but it actually ended up being more in the direction you're talking about and it surprised me that I would much rather go watch and go well that's someone I have to call right away or someone I can talk to later and tap a quick button than it was to dig into my pocket and pull my phone out and say who's this oh my gosh should I answer it like that was more stressful than just this quick little blip on my watch. So I totally get what you're saying I just ended up I ended up having I feel like I'm getting not that I'm getting less notifications but I'm having a more seamless sort of experience with my existing notifications where I can just go oh someone's there do I take it or not move on I don't have to sit there and lose a lot of brain power spend time digging my phone out it seems small and dumb but it really has made a difference and made it less stressful for me. When you get a notification on your watch and dismiss it it no longer shows up on my phone so when I go to my phone I'm not barraged with like oh my god all these notifications and the other thing is I by default say no when a new app asks for notifications I only turn on notifications I am sure I want to see and I'm even stricter on what I want to see on my watch because you can say show it on the phone but don't notify me on the watch. So part of it is just and it's not convenient to have to do this but writing heard on that and curating what notifications show up and then I agree with Scott it's actually better to get it on your watch because it's right there. Yeah but it's the fun and that's the weird thing but I didn't predict that in fact I thought it was going to be a bit of a hell hole and I felt like I was doing it for science or for talking about it on shows The first Apple Watch I used my Apple Watch for 30 days and then I gave it to Jenny Josephson to use for 30 days and then we gave it away at Nerdtacular. I was like don't need it did not help me at all. The second time when I tried the series 3 things had changed I don't know if my behavior had changed or what but I definitely use it and the fitness tracking in particular is what keeps me invested in it. One thing that they keep getting better with that I think is going to matter a lot to people you know how it looks and that it's nice and that you can get new bands for it and that it functions and charges and all that stuff is there and we're all happy that they just get thinner and cooler and whatever but the one thing I'm counting on and really hoping for is that the watch will continue to get faster because I look at somebody's series 1 or 2 or older Android Wear Watches or even old Fitbits and they've been updated a number of times and they're slow and sloggy and laggy and weird and they don't feel like finished polished products I feel like we're finally getting to the place where that's a little bit more seamless and even that's not perfect yet but that's a piece of this I look forward to like I don't know what series 4 is but whatever it is my guess is it will be faster because they always tend to you know that's usually part of the upgrade and the better they get at that the more I think regular old folks like us will like and use their watches smarter otherwise we should come up with a new name for them for Sarah yeah I like that I like to tell you right about like what is it wrist piece ooh I think we ever call our phone do you think there'll be a day where we quit calling them phones and we call them wrist pewters I don't know I mean you know I kind of like tried to launch this crusade of like smart phone it's not a smart phone it's a little computer let's all get on board and it's like well I gave that up smart watch makes sense because you know it's the form factor right why not smart bracelet smart jewelry smart I don't know does it have to be smart some folks don't want to wear jewelry but they're fine with the watch yeah exactly wrist bands smart bands yeah I say as long as it's not tethered to my phone as much as possible I'll I'll get there eventually I'm just hey thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit old and young we'll take you all submit stories and vote on them at dailytechnewshow.reddit.com we're also on Facebook join us there at facebook.com slash dailytechnewshow oh the mailbag is open what's in there sure is rich and chapel Hill loved our music themed roundtable show so glad to hear that rich and notice to change in his own habits when he bought a new car this year we were talking about you know based on what a car can play how do you listen to music or audio in your car rich says up until now I usually either listen to the radio or CD or sometimes I'd plug in my phone through the nostalgia port into my ultra nostalgia port that's the my cassette player which I had to use to listen to my phone but then last year I got a new phone I didn't have the headphone jacks I had new car as well and the dongle kind of worked but not that well I had a janky setup sometimes I had to reboot that was a pain so I would just listen to the radio a lot so still I was stuck in 2002 media world thanks Google so when you were talking about CDs we were talking about the fact that CDs are you know going the way of the dodo rich says I had that duh the death star plans are an R2-D2 moment some of us have had and realized that you know what my car doesn't have a CD player Android autos integration is so easy it dominates my listening choices when I drive now I plug in my phone picks up where I left off not perfect sometimes it crashes sometimes it doesn't recognize the phone but about 95% of the time that's a number that rich said he created out of a whole cloth it just and that's all I need so thanks again Google rich says I feel a little bad about not listening to as much radio as I used to but if I switch over to radio it becomes a bit of a hassle on the phone so I find myself not doing it unless I absolutely have to on the other hand I've discovered really fun podcasts to fill the void CDs I'm seriously thinking about getting rid of mine because there's nowhere to put them yeah we got rid of ours well thank 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through extralife.org so head to bit.ly slash streamathon 2018 to find out more Hey if you want to get a hold of us our email address is feed back at dailytechnewshow.com we'd love to hear from you we're also live if you can join us Monday through Friday at 4 30 p.m. Eastern 20 30 UTC and find out more at dailytechnewshow.com slash live we shall be back tomorrow to talk about microchipped cactuses or cacti with Aaron Carson from techrepublic.com this show is part of the frogpants network get more at frogpants.com that's awesome I love Aaron yeah I love cactus just the one cacti sorry you're right I love them as a cat that was so like grammar please the pedantic police the pedantic police they live inside of my head deep jerk reference in case you didn't get it pretty good thank you Otis was snoring loudly at my feet the entire show I guess you guys didn't hear it but I did I wish I had more tips for you but we let the dogs sleep in the room with us so in the bedroom in the bedroom I let my cat sleep on the bed with me to the point where if they want the pillow I'll just be on the edge that's what we've figured out in our 11 years together but I'm trying to establish boundaries with the dog that are maybe not realistic we put the kennel in the bedroom and make them sleep in the kennel but they're in the room with us you say kennel you mean crate yeah I mean the crate until they've gotten used to being crated and everything then now both of them are allowed to just sleep on the floor and Sawyer because he's an old man just like 65 to you and me he sleeps up on the bed now now I wouldn't really have a problem with that except that I've had this dog for a week and it's very important that my cat still have their comfort levels and so the bedroom is still their place you know like he doesn't go in there he's not allowed in there they can go in there and be safe and chill now I get why I get why it just makes it trickier but it will from what I've heard people who do have their dog sleep outside like my sister has done that the dog sleep in their crates out in another room they get used to it it just takes time it's also this is a giant dog who needs to run he needs like an hour of running a day that's not hard to do as long as I factor it in but yesterday I walked him several times but there was no running and it didn't go well well this is why we've always had our dogs go either with a walker or to a daycare type place not because we need them to be watched I'm working at home it's because they need to think to just burn off energy and with them and their dogs they just go go go go go totally yeah yeah I'm learning it's a lot and I think it would be but it's still a lot it's not going up to you and you'll just be like oh man this is all so worth it I mean he's he's a very I told Tom and the guys yesterday Scott that you know I've come to realize that my dog came to me very lonely he was a lonely guy so sometimes he does weird stuff that like I don't like but I realize why he's doing it just a lot yeah you just have to be firm yeah and it takes time but it won't always be that way that's the big thing I had to remind myself with Ray she was doing some crazy stuff when we first got her like give me an example of crazy oh like grabbing Sawyer by the neck when he was barking because she thought oh I need to discipline him for you right like no no you don't do that like grabbing him by the scruff she wasn't biting him but several times was like putting her paw and like I'll stop him we're like no no you don't that's not your job and we had to get past that yeah and how did you we grabbed her every time and went no you know it's repetition and getting her to go oh why am I in trouble he was the one and you know and like getting her to realize like oh it's not my job okay yeah repetition is everything hey what should we call this show okay that was my title repetition open up a show about ooh we got lots of ideas today dude you're getting a dell well okay no that happened every time we have a dell story smartwatches it's about time ooh that's good smartwatches it's not about time oh that one's better smartwatches it's not about time oh that's pretty good yeah I like that one smartwatches it's not about time it's about time it makes me laugh it's not about time that one's good because in my head I'm saying it really positively smartwatches it's not about time smartwatches it's not about time wait no it's a good thing don't worry it's fine everything's fine um can I ask anyone if they watch sharp objects no but I can I know I didn't I list I want to you guys have to watch it for current geek and you know all your stuff but also for me really good things about it it is that's a cray cray show definitely watch it it's only eight episodes it's already over so easy binge the stuff they do on HPF mini series wise I absolutely love so I'm sure I'm gonna like it yeah yeah yeah same I actually kind of like it because it's like oh all I have to do is commit to eight great like to the point where when the eighth episode was you know we're getting to the end of the hour I was like no I wanted to keep going I always wanted more yeah exactly yeah I felt about the other one they did that night of one loved it loved that show I watched it twice really wow you really did like yeah well I like prison stuff yeah me too did you keep watching oranges the new black that is a prison show that I lost interest in oh okay you know what's funny about that show is which is it was sort of funny but it wasn't and the whole like is it a dramedy or what is it started to bother me after a while and I don't know you know it was like I didn't know who I was supposed to focus on and I kind of didn't like what's her name paper yeah and you know it just I've heard that I've messed some good stuff but yeah I bailed out probably at the end of season 2 I think it was season 3 that I just kind of stopped watching midway and never went back and it wasn't there was I can't tell you why there wasn't a thing where I'm like I just got tired or this happened I just didn't go back yeah and that happens more and more with shows that I'm like oh yeah I like that show but I run out of time and then I just stopped watching them and there's nothing making me watch them and I'm like oh it's Tuesday night this is what's on because you can always pick what you want to watch now exactly I agree I mean when you've got flora bamashore who's got time for orange is the new black alright alright that's actually a show I'm watching sorry everyone that sounds great what the heck it's an MTV show it's like their jersey sure for the Florida Gulf Coast I mean come on but how did that so last you think I have no taste what I do with some of these shows is like at the end of a long day you know at 9pm you know when Sarah is starting to get tired like I like to put on a show like that because it doesn't matter if I fall asleep halfway through right I totally get it I have one of those shows for me yeah we have one of those yeah yeah what's yours Scott I'll admit it here I've probably said it before but I was completely addicted to Jersey Shore oh yeah just so terrible I mean you know that Jersey Shore reunion special part 2 has just started I know I don't know if I can do it but I was really into it there's a lot going on so I may end up getting back to it but the point is like I get it like yeah it's one of those shows it doesn't matter if you miss a few details like it doesn't matter it's just sort of candy at the end of a long day that does seem like about a decade too late like the Florida thing should have happened I don't know why it took them so long it seemed like the perfect place well it's so bad like the here's the thing that I love about it is that so they're based in Panama City and it's you know all southern folks so it's supposed to be like oh get to know like the southern culture but all they do is go to bars and like get drunk and barf and fight with each other so there's there's nothing to it there's no redeeming quality at all so if anyone is like why would you watch that I'm like I don't know but somehow I find it very comforting where I'm like yay episode 3 you know time to go to bed I wonder if there's anything I have with cops I'll watch cops cause I'm party yeah and I think what it is is you look at it and go man I've had a rough day what's going on and cops oh a naked guy on meth on a hood of a car screaming yeah like I want to go to bed feeling a little bit better about what I did today see those shows just stress me out I the cops shows particularly but also the OC and stuff when everybody's yelling at each other I'm like I don't need this I don't I don't I didn't have that day and I don't want to have that day I know why why does that comfort me but I definitely understand the idea of wanting to watch a show that isn't mentally challenging because you just want to relax like Bob's Burgers is that Bob's Burgers is new as soon as I'm done on on Monday with court killers and DTNS and it's all it's a long day of broadcasting I'm like I just want yeah something where it's like there's not a detail we're like wait hold sorry I missed something I have to like rewind right yeah none of that it's just you see it or you don't I think that's why I like Death in Paradise too because even though it's a mystery show it's always the same track like if I if my mind drifts I can easily figure out where we are in the mystery by what's going on right like there's there's variations on it and it's pretty it's shot in the Caribbean so it's gorgeous hmm where in the Caribbean do we talk about this already yeah now I can't remember it's a French not Martinique it's a saint something I think Saint Bert where is the paradise shot if only we had an interconnected network of networks bought a loop not a saint that's right yeah you did tell me that it takes place on the fictional island of Saint Helene which was a former French colony taken over by the British what's is it a period thing no it's modern day so it's a fictional island so that they don't get in trouble but it's shot on Guadalupe it always sounds wrong to me it's like it should be Guadalupe maybe it is Guadalupe Guadalupe is what you call the street in Austin Guadalupe may be what you call the island I was under the impression Guadalupe was not a French colony but I don't know let's look it up it's easy to find out with our external brains the reason I say French is that everybody local they use a lot of locals on the show and they all speak French or speak English with a French accent and in the show it's explained that Saint Helene used to be French and then it was taken over by the British speaking natives but it's administered by the crown whereas Guadalupe I thought well it must just be French that was just an assumption now see I'm looking at Guadalupe Island which is in Mexico that's a whole other thing what I'm thinking of actually oh yeah Guadalupe alright well you know what Tom I think you're right because it's a French spelling insular region of France located in the Leeward Islands of the Lesser Antilles in the Caribbean administratively it's an overseas region consisting of a single overseas department with a land area of a estimated population 400,000 the largest and most populous European Union territory in North America but that's good trivia Antilles that's I just think Star Wars isn't it Captain Antilles the property of the Lesser Antilles Captain Lesser Antilles I presume the Leeward Sun yes weird my brain went there the department also includes the dependencies of Guadalupe which include the smaller islands of Marie Galant Disserade and the Le Desson Feline Patrick we're here to help us pronounce I know I mean what are you saying about my yours is way better than mine that's what I'm saying no that's okay well color me educated soccer blue 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