 What's up YouTube? What's up, man? Anybody listening to this on the sound cloud? I appreciate you guys checking out as well This is the needed podcast episode 30 the 30 burger. I'm saying we them been Live 30 straight weeks. This is episode 30. I appreciate all you guys for coming through the chat is already filled up, man I appreciate all the support. I couldn't do this without you guys supporting and in fact I'm working on a lot of sponsorships That's gonna get me, you know through the summer and in demand 20 man big things for me myself and need a gaming everybody That's involved in that we're definitely working on some big things and and I tell people about man all the time It's easy to do it when there's a lot of eyes on Madden man When your streams are popping when your videos are popping But it's the people that put in the work in the off-season that really prepared themselves For a good man 20 man I feel like this is where a lot of the work is done and Also, a lot of the work is neglected. So I appreciate all the support that I have even throughout these Even throughout these slow months from you guys, man That's really what I appreciate really what uh is going to continue to keep this thing rolling And I hope this I when I start first started the podcast I didn't think it would be this amazing. I didn't think we get this much support But now I see it's gonna continue to roll is gonna keep getting better and better and be a staple in the man community so this is a really Promising outlook for me man and as far as promising outlooks Clef man one Friday night football man I really don't talk about Friday night football enough on here, but when my man Clef Sweeps the competition and dominates again. I have to bring it up Clef really is the second best man player in the world right now. I Really think I'm the only one that can knock them off I'm the only one that can get in his head mentally Otherwise, he's just wiping the floor with these children and so we'll be interesting to see this Friday If Clef is able to go ahead and get another go back to back and Friday night man So definitely something I'll be watching and speaking of Friday night football man in about a month. I Think a month directly a month from now. I will be commentating I don't know who I'll be commentating with but mudhead did extend the invitation to myself to come down there and Commentate so hopefully I can make it that much more exciting I'm not going to be booze on the mic man. It's not gonna be a boring session We're not gonna be talking about wheat grass and things of that nature So in about a month, I will be down there and really having a good time with Friday football and Friday night football Friday night football would be Honestly has become something really cool and something we could all look forward to every week And I think as much as mudhead has been amazing and it has with the leagues and all We're really starting to see that man is more of a tournament thing than a league thing. I mean the leagues were super Successful from mudhead and but at the end of the day it was all about the playoffs You know and that's kind of how the tournament is just one tournament Everybody's trying to get into it and it's really working. Well the way they lay it out in the way that they sponsor and everything and So that's gonna be a good time Um Another thing I want to talk about speaking to commentating. I know men it's kind of developing as the g-league or the um, you know the league or the minor league triple triple a ball But C4 this weekend has their final competition their final grand championship This is in the Foxwood casinos. Of course Vilma the Thanos of C4 will be competing I'm not sure who the other people are there in it But I actually as far as that's concerned I got I got an extended invitation to come and commentate that up in Connecticut with Larry Ridley And so I will be commentating that entire event on Sunday. So if you not only you want to watch some decent Madden You get to hear me commentate and talk shit about Vilma mostly and whoever else he's playing man So it should certainly be a good time if anybody's in the new New England area Please check it out man that Foxwood casino is is worth the trip if you're an hour away two hours away You can make a day trip out of it gamble all types of food clubs bars everything Foxwood casinos is definitely worth the trip and that's for sure man So it's definitely gonna be a good tournament I'm excited about that and I'm excited about this podcast because I mean it did a little bit of news that man 20 has been out it has really been out for a while now. That's one thing that um And I feel that I haven't been able to talk about it because we had man bull to talk about last week We talked to what did we talk about last week was the awards for the whole season really didn't get a chance to really narrow down and talk about This x-factor stuff what they're doing with the attributes and things like of that nature because Like I said because I mean we had the other topics to talk about it's not all been About you know the gameplay for man 20 and I'm assuming in the next two months a lot of these podcasts are gonna be geared around man 20 talking about man 20 and how it pertains to us That's pretty much what it's going to come down to because this this is about this podcast has always been about competitive men And how it relates to the rest of the world We all have come to the conclusion that it's such a small minority of men, but I will talk about how these different You know things looking forward in the game can affect the competitive community Also in the podcast today man I want to talk I want to make a list of my top 10 mcs players in the mcs era This is about three and a half years man a full man 19 full man 18 Full man is 17 and about half a year man 16 so calculating all that until I want to make a top 10 list It was hard not to put myself number one But I did get passed by one or two people But in all seriousness, I mean the things I really took into account for this list were Money one. I think that's pretty much ultimately the number one thing put in championships Consistency and runs man. You got to have some good runs It's a lot of people that have great runs But don't necessarily have all the money or don't necessarily have a championship So all the thing factors into it at this point I'm pretty sure we can kind of agree who the top three players are but after that I mean, it's pretty much all for your what you think's more impressive and I'll talk into that You guys can give me feedback if you're watching this live man If you don't check out these podcasts live twitch.tv slash dub dot the link is below You guys can watch this on Tuesday 7 p.m. Eastern every single Tuesday. This is the 30th straight Tuesday We have talked about competitive men to some extent and I said we'll go back to the X of the what you can call it We're gonna go back to the X factors now From what I took from this and I hopefully I'll try to get to this right here this um, here we go Where am I at right here boom? We're gonna try to get this is Clint and this is actually pretty dope that they do this I've always said I wish the man Community Always wish that the man community is going to Or not the man can be but EA is going to put more effort as far as twitch is concerned Because the more people that tune into twitch the bigger twitch can get as far as man's concern So I'm happy that EA has put I feel like they put a decent effort into twitch this year on their end Whether it be the mutt daily drops or these new shows That we can really get into and really are excited about to hear about man 20 because at this point You either hate mad 19. You're done playing mad 19. You're bored of it Or you're just we're all ready for man 20 are and we might have been ready for man 20 in November Whatever time of the year you ready for man 20. We all are right now. So it's dope to go ahead and Be able to look forward and see some things coming in the game so I appreciate Clint and obviously Craylo organized and all these things and This one was about the new X factor than they put in the game now for me X factor was directly I think directly a result or some of it We'll see X factor is kind of what every player has and then they have an in his own ability Now the in his own ability was a direct pull I believe from 2k because that's what 2k was this year the takeover badge man If you guys play 2k a lot of man players play 2k the takeover badge. I feel like The zone ability is exactly what takeover is, you know, and we'll see We didn't get too many details from this particular stream But we'll see as the time goes on What these own abilities all entail and how to counter all of them how easy they are to obtain and how hard they are to Stop once they get on Once they get going and for me I do think this relates directly to the conversation I had with Rex if you haven't watched that that's on YouTube and SoundCloud as well That he talked about EA just wanting to put new features in the game to make the game sound more exciting To get the game more have more eyes and more new people buying the game he said that EA felt like you know the casual super casual player probably buys a man every three years or two years or so on and so forth and They want to continue to get that player get some new players playing the game And that's why they put these type of features in the game as Directly why they put these type of features in the game to get people to buy the game It sounds new it sounds exciting and as much as that might just be a plea for marketing I've probably is a plea for marketing It's exciting to me as much as I want to hate on it and say they just do this again It's pretty damn exciting for me and the easy thing to do is hate and say these things are gonna suck They do sound like red chems on steroids a lot of a Lot of the complaints this year were with the red chems were a little overpowered This sounds like red chems on steroids, you know, that's pretty much what it sounds like So to me That's pretty much what it is and I forget the part where But what's important All right, so essentially what I'm saying is they put these X factor abilities in the game to make stars for like stars For me, I feel like the attributes should do that You know, like that there should be a difference in the attributes and that's something also that they put out earlier The attributes are gonna be so widespread this year that it's gonna be a bigger difference like there should be a Substantial difference between Tom Brady and Russell Wilson as much as Russell Wilson say he's top five quarterback Whatever you may say, he's might be top 10. Whatever your opinion is on Russell Wilson. He's very good Yes, but he's not Tom Brady and there should be a big difference on the way They throw the ball and I shouldn't have to have a ability to really make Tom Brady that much better than Russell Wilson But at the same time one of the complaints that every field a man has whether it's sim players Whether it's competitive players CFM players is that, you know, it always sucked when the best players were just fat tall and fast guys It always felt like it sucked like that man And you know the players like Doug Baldwin like Julian Edelman, you know Like Eric Weddle people that are good in real life But don't have the physical attributes to be great and Madden aren't good in Madden Madden has always been dominated by the Derrick Browns the Pat Watkins The Matt Jones on the Jaguars the fast running backs without, you know, carry and spit whatever it may be is always dominated by the physical freaks and One thing about this X factor thing is that I feel like it's going to make the best players in the NFL better on Madden But at the same time, I feel like they have already been gearing to that way They've been using these thresholds to kind of make good players in real life good on the game You know, the terrible DB that's 6-4 that's fast, but his ratings are bad. Isn't that good on the game? Remember last year Eric Weddle was one of the best safeties early in the year just because he had 91 zone So there really is a relation in the good players that are madden are good in real life And that kind of started in Madden 18 the last two years with the thresholds with the ratings really mattering So I think they've been on the right path To getting the best players in real life to translate onto the game, you know And I think the attributes spreading out the attributes start in a player with 50 or out running or you know What kind of 50 awareness or 44 play recognition? I think this is a smart move as far as diversifying How good a great player is and how bad just a body is like a body won't get you by anymore You can't just have somebody tall and fast on the outside and um the threat thresholds I think are good and they talk about the spin move is pretty much the biggest threshold we had this year and the spin move is a 82 82 on all mad you could spin and to me that is why the spin is overpowered That's great spin move where we hold both triggers directionally spin. I think is great in man I really do but personally I think you should have to have 96 spin to be able to do that So only the McCoy's the Barry Sanders maybe Walter Peyton Somebody really elusive that really can pull those type of moves off in real life can be able to do it The problem with the spin is not the spin. It's just that everybody can do it You know, it's kind of ridiculous that what we have tight ends that can do spin moves like with Sean McCoy I think that was the biggest problem with the spin move honestly and uh That's where it is and but Ultimately, they have made good players in real life good on the game And that has always been a complaint for man players for the longest And they are definitely going down our angle to make every player that's kind of good in real life Be effective on madness not necessarily always about speed and height now it really the ratings matter and The the further they get down in line to where the ratings matter more and more and more and the more they make the ratings Vastly different the better man a player like Malcolm Jenkins was my favorite player can really stand out. He's kind of been kind of trash and Madden in the history of Madden he's been kind of trash because he's slow not that tall doesn't hit hard But the more they make the ratings matter the better his card will play So I think I think spreading out the ratings will be a great thing But there's some things I don't think should be spread out and that's really the physical part of the ratings being spread out if we go from uh, I Personally when I watch football, there's there's a few players in the league I think are that much faster than everybody else Obviously Tyree kill. I thought the shine Jackson was very fast when he was on Eagles five six seven years ago And there's certain players that really stand out man If you if you guys can think of a player that when you watch football for me I'll tell you Tyree kill obviously but Devin Hester was probably from on the field watching a player play I thought Devin Hester was the fastest player I've ever seen And there's players like that and and you guys can comment below on which one you want in the chat Tell me what players did you watch and was like that guy is that much faster than everybody else in the NFL? Because for me, it wasn't that many players. I feel like between corners the DB's wide receivers I feel like they're all kind of similar physically speed and height and strength you know and I Think I think as far as the physical things I don't think there needs to be Tyree kill doesn't need to be 97 speed and then come around and have Julian Edelman with 82 speed I don't think that's the way to go physically same thing as the row power I don't think my home should have 98 dough power then Brady have you know 79 dough power So as far as the physical things, I think the attributes should be a little closer But as far as the mental things and being able to play the game That's where you should see the giant separation in the attributes like Brady should have nine on awareness Russell Wilson down 79 you go my home's 74 and you go with you know Daniel Jones on the Giants 42 awareness because there's rookie. I want to see a difference in these ratings not necessarily the physical ratings and the X factor seems like One in the back of the boxing to sell ratings and another way to separate The great players from average players, which could be really good You know, I really I don't want to sit here and bash it because I haven't played it could be awesome and it sounds like red Kim's on steroids But if there's a red Kim the counter red Kim and then they foam at some point There's gonna be we're gonna get back to that random generated number thing and We'll see how it works. We really don't have enough information about it. It's just something I'm I'm very excited about to play to try it. I wasn't gonna go to EA play this year I had went to EA play paid my own way go a pay the last two years. I'm really not interested in it and part of the reason last year was that Madden was such as just like a discarded feature in this whole and it's kind of like a Festival for video games for EA and Madden was just kind of just as like we know a man was kind of like We know my fan base is gonna be here. We don't need to promote it We're gonna put it in the corner like as it wasn't a it wasn't a high priority So for me, it was like why am I out here, you know, and so Wasn't didn't plan on going to play at all but I mean I would definitely go because I am interested in checking out this this X factor ability so um And then we'll talk about his own like I said his own abilities to me are directly from EA's takeover and Those are nothing's that a little bit goofy to me in that. I don't think I don't think All of a sudden now Patrick Holmes can throw the ball 80 yards I feel like his arm strength is his arm strength regardless, you know Whether he's having a terrible game or he's hit 25 passes in a row. He can still go to ball the same way So I think all of a sudden giving somebody steroids and being able to just be stronger fast or whatever it may be I don't know if that's the best move. I think I've always felt that way. I don't think a Player physically should be boosted. I think mentally and as far as accuracy. Yeah, that'd be cool And but as far as being able to throw the ball further all of a sudden in the middle of a game I think he can go to ball the same way every single time he tries to throw the ball but We have to remember that it's a video game and this could be really fun to play Mix match and some of these things might have strategies involved like if Patrick Mahomes takes 10 straight completions to get some You know rocket arm or bazooka runner or scrambler, whatever it may be whatever Yu-Gi-Oh power Patrick Moseley gonna have it takes 10 completions man. Now a sudden we might mix in a couple screen passes We might mix in some more hitches. We might throw some more drags We won't necessarily take that risk on a deep pass because I have six straight completions I need for more, you know and defensively you could think that way too like okay, he has five straight completions I can't let him get another completion. So let's go ahead and play super aggressive And once you get that in completion bang Now it changes the game and that's some of the things that will maybe expand the strategy And there might be different strategies for every single position It could be something really awesome It could be really well done if they do it the right way and for me We talked about I mean a lot of this goes back to the Rex Podcast and that Madden doesn't have that many people working on it doesn't have that much No room for error so to say like so we all know how much error we're in You know the gameplay this year as far as animations contains coaching adjustments So instead of fixing those things, you know, we spent the time and applying Implementing this new feature X factors on whatever it may be so they took these 30 40 people instead of fixing the old problem Let's put a new feature in the game So we know this new feature in the game is going to be kind of bugged out It's just natural you put out a video game in six months It's going to be bugged out for sure 1,000% So now not only do we are we still want to deal with some of the problems from the past generation now? We're gonna have this new system. That's probably gonna have Probably got some new um Some new bugs to deal with so that's going to be an obstacle that they're dealing with and From here on out, so it's definitely going to be tough for them guys to just handle it all with it with the lack of You know what the lack of um People to have working there per Rex as we talked about Uh, so EA play should be fun just for this feature alone. I'm really excited for the next couple streams that they do Like I said, it sounds like it sounds like red Kim's on steroids and I'll be interested to see Chat, I will be interested to see This is that You know how this year you could have every like Michael Vick could have every quarterback red Kim It didn't really matter anything about your your quarterbacks attributes. He could have every red Kim I am I thinking every quarterback a mutt is going to have be able to have every superstar X factor Like can I put pocket pass on Michael Vick or will there be an attribute, you know threshold and Oh, excuse me, will it be a threshold to get these different type of X factors? You know, can I put scrambler on Tom Brady and all of a sudden he can throw crazy on the run and get a little speed boost Are there going to be options for me to really mix and match these X factor abilities to really Boost up my players. Also, we're going to have these X factor abilities and regular red Kims You know, am I going to have Lawrence Taylor without the way fear monger and tip drill What how how many Yu-Gi-Oh gems can I put on my cards? this is something that we're probably all thinking about and Maybe X factor will get rid of red red Kims that were used to and just be X factors You know, so definitely a lot of questions to be answered down the line And it's definitely going to be something that I'm looking forward to hear from and I hope you guys are looking forward to as well man So we'll definitely see what they have I I'd said before I really appreciate these Videos with Clinton Cray low Cray low really doing a good job as always that everything. He's pretty much always done So that's definitely a good thing man. So So they T ski said they did say all the red chemists from the past. They're going to be gone So no more tip drill conductor is probably some field general thing Is there going to be a threshold on that? You know, are we going to be able to turn? You know Michael Vic into a field general. So We're definitely going to See more and more just unfolded. Hopefully just it works. Well, man, I'm excited for the new game I'm excited for something new to play And I personally think it could be very good if it's executed the right way, even if it's super cartoony For me video games are fun. That's what makes that's what makes them play video games, you know for fun You know, I've never been playing man and said wow I've never been the type to say wow He doesn't his cleats don't look like real life or the stadium doesn't look good or the way he do the ball Look goofy. I mean, I've had fun playing the most cheesy arcadey cartoon Madden games ever So even if this is super cheesy you yell type thing if it's fun, man, and it's competitive It's going to be a good thing, you know So before I try it and before we play it and play it for a couple weeks It's hard to really say that it's going to be terrible But it's definitely looking like just red kems on steroids and that that's cool if it works I mean, it's gonna be great. We'll see how it's executed. That's gonna be the way to go um so That was the first I want to talk about was the x-factor man if you guys Comment below on anything you want to hear about x-factor anything you think about x-factor man because your comments are very important chat obviously, uh You guys are the most important thing is the chat Over a hundred people in here right now twitch.tv slash dub that talking about x-factor understanding What it's going to mean kind of guessing what's going to happen Because we took this this little half-hour stream with Clint and Craylo and and really it helped a lot It really cleared up some things and we're taking it You know with our opinion and trying to figure out what it's going to mean. So I appreciate you guys Hmm so my next topic I want to get on and this is something that I really Put a lot of thought into This is probably the most I prepared for a podcast since I've been in episode 30. This is the most I have prepared The most I have prepared so far For a podcast and that was my top 10 MCS players and there's three at MCS it's been three and a half years and It's been a lot of mad You know, I looked at a list Jenny actually I was talking to Jenny about it earlier And we talked about or he sent me a bunch of pictures that he had and rankings About you know money games one games played Final appearances and a lot of what I did was just off the top of my head and um It's definitely a lot of things to talk about a lot of different things to debate amongst us chat And I hope you guys help us out man Because I need you guys input as far as you know, do you agree with my list? Who would you have differently? I mean, what is a bigger factor in the criteria of a list man? What's more important to you guys money one? Championships, you know, how many runs have you had? What's your best finish? How many total games? How many total events have you made? I mean, what's most important to you? And we're definitely gonna dive into that and we're gonna bring up I made my top 10 and before I make my top 10 I really want to say that, you know, this is impossible to do these top 10s without talking about a true boy and spot me First of all, I said it rest in peace to those guys man. Those guys were huge competitors. Those guys were great man players and and they're Not really think about it between man 18 17 19 it was hard to find live events without those guys in them and those guys definitely You know, we're definitely in consideration for places on the top 10 They both had had great careers in the MCS both were household names pretty much for anybody that filed competitive man And they are truly missed man And it's to the point where I think somebody's events should be named after them Whether it be the man classic be be true boys tournament and then maybe the man challenge be spot me You know, I really think something like that really should be Really should be named after those guys because they were such a big part Going through this list their names kept popping up Both of them have made a lot of money a lot of impact and those guys will surely be missed and I'm Want to talk about them as this list goes on and um Let's take a look at this right now, man This is my Now we can go with this right away Now if you're looking on if you're watching on Are you listening on SoundCloud checking on YouTube? This was the all-time money list. This was before the man bow. I believe Now I will tell you that It's hard not to say the money's the most important thing You know, I really It's hard not to say that because if that's your opinion that money is all that matters You know, it's hard to really argue with that because it's a huge important thing But at the same time you take a guy like skimbo who obviously is the top of the list But he won two tournaments where where he won two belts. I believe two belts combined were fifty five thousand dollars Two belts combined in the man back-to-back man classic. So just the weight of the money isn't the same So at some point it's hard to say that That money is all that matters when talking about the top 10 MCS, you know And sad but there's a good point skimbo has competed all four years He's been successful all four years some of these guys like Drenny and I believe Kiv only had three years Drenny only has two years pop in with just two And so on and so some people do have longer careers, you know, and and that that hurts the youth It does hurt the youth I mean, but you can't ignore it. You can't say pound for pound You still have to factor in those two years that skimbo had over Drenny or skimbo had over Popping because they ultimately they count and the longer the sample size we get if we get the 10 years at MCS Then it will even out for the players that were too young prior to the age changing and all that Donnie in the chat my guy there he is But yeah, I kid was for I don't remember Him doing a lot in man 16 man 16 for me was definitely a probably The hardest one for me to remember As far as final eights final 16s final fours. That was the hardest one for me to remember Um Now and I apologize for that for me to remember man 16 I remember the belts obviously and the championship games obviously, but Like I said man 16 was the hardest to remember and it was two tournaments The first one was a little was half an invitational tournament where half the half the bracket got invited, which was really smart At the time as a competitive player that was just coming up grinding, you know with no name I Upsetted most of us because it's like why the hell did you just invite those guys? But now just for people to watch just for people to be enticed and to know watch those guys play against other competition That was a great idea and it worked out man. So um But this is the money list and with the money list I I Definitely I had definitely factored in a lot into my list It definitely was important and I'll talk about it for each player as we go on and I will tell you my list Number 10 was my hardest choice By far my hardest choice and number 10 came down to joke or true boy Now I will tell you first of all both great players can nothing be taken away from any of these guys. Um True boy was probably the most unique player on the circuit and He was very good. I Personally think joke had joke has one of the most underrated Consistent man, he's been consistently good if that makes sense, you know, he's just been making tons of live events Whether it be man 17. I don't know about man 16. I really honestly don't remember that much But man 17 he made the first one made the man bowl I don't think he made a man challenge, but obviously made the final four in the man championship. I Really believe that joke and joke is my number 10 player He's number 10 on my list and the reason it was hard for me not to put you boy here because true boy I guarantee you joke has had a better on paper a better career than true boy But true boy always kicked the shit out of joke when they played So for me that was the hardest thing for me that wanted me to put true boy here at number 10 But joke just had a such a consistent career had one finals appearance that final four in the man championship Just has yet to take home that belt with all his consistency and all the events that he made One belt would put joke into five four even three territory. Honestly with how successful he has been in the man In the MCS error also for him to have a hundred thousand dollars and not have a belt is pretty damn impressive And you know that just speaks to the consistency and even in his final in the final that he made against skimbo I don't think it was that much money So to me I believe the final versus skimbo he might have made 18,000 maybe 20,000 just off the final so For him consistently making some decent money. He's definitely had a good career. So that's why I Chose to put him in number 10, but it definitely was the toughest decision I Didn't want to split it. I hate when people makes lists and put 10 a and 10 b Whatever yeah, journey. So his fight when he made the finals of a tournament. He just made $15,000 So that's definitely low and that shows you that all the other tournaments combined He definitely made what 85,000 off his places off his runs Probably the second most he's made was probably that final four in the man championship If you guys remember it was against problem where he gave up to kick returns Otherwise he would have been the finals versus skimbo and skimbo didn't want to play him So if joke had not given up kick returns the problem. He could have that man and champ man 17 championship so he definitely He definitely made a great run at man championship But yeah, so between it was between true boy and joke for this joke Just made a little bit more money made some more events and a little bit deeper runs between that one finals appearance and that final four But it was definitely tough between sure boy and Joke but I went with joke number eight or number nine. I believe this is the person where I went to I Hope this all works out for me. But number nine. I got pavin Tough to put pavin. We talked about consistency, but my man is over to 120 I think maybe even 130 K now, you know, it's been two years for him He didn't do much in man 17 or man 18 just winning the raiders club series But for him to win probably the biggest tournament year this year Also make the man challenge and do pretty decent in the man bowl making it out of groups I think between that the money he's won already and a belt is just enough to put him on this list He's probably had obviously had the least live events of anybody on this list But just the money between the money and the championship. I think he has to be on this list Obviously, don't even don't hear true boy is somebody that maybe you can argue over Pavin, but just that championship and the money is just overwhelming. So for me, I got pavin at number nine chat I don't know if you guys I mean, I don't think he's gonna be any higher I don't think you're arguing he's gonna be any higher. I think this is a decent spot for pavin to be at number nine on the list I think he's earned that in the last in this year and a little bit of a run last year Winning the Raiders Club series, but I he'll be the first to tell you that he's much improved this year and the sky is the limit for this Kid, I mean it's all about somebody that wasn't able to compete in 16 and 17 and For him to just really take off this last year I mean, he's gonna continue to dominate continue to make events and he's gonna probably be in his top 10 list Long after I'm removed from it. So Definitely have pavin right here And number eight is probably probably the most consistent player without a belt and number eight. I have blocky Blocky has made I want to say how many final fours. I think four final fours between club series this year The Madden Championship last year. I want to say the Madden Classic this year and I'm not really sure I'm really not sure how many more final fours, but I'm talking about a player in the last two years has been Beyond solid. He's pretty much been a dominant force in the MCS for the last two years and I will tell you um, I Will tell you that even in Madden 17 a man 16. He was definitely a Great player. So and for him to have this success in the last two years in the MCS Once again another player over a hundred thousand dollars Okay, I will tell you guys who are you putting blocky over? I just watch the list and you tell me what person you put him over That's all number eight. Like I said blocky really consistent Definitely had a Been been dominant for the most part just got to get over that hump put one or two games back together um And it will definitely be a he can move up the list But another player that hasn't won I will tell you that listen when you guys see the other seven there chat YouTube the chat is telling me blight is just too low for blocky. Okay And I can tell you the only I might be the only player you argue that you can put me over me but I'm saying he's definitely been a He's been good, but just hasn't Won the belt has I don't even think he's made a finals. I think he's lost in the final four every time, but he's been a well No blocky's not the best without a belt, but we'll continue to look at this list. Like I said, he's number eight Great thing like I said a great player. Just got it. Just got to finish the job Like he's he's in there in at the winning. He just got it finished He's a player if blocky had won one of those He's automatically third or he's fourth or so on and so forth, you know Here we go and number seven rest in peace spot me, please spot me, please And I honestly I didn't I had spot me probably around 11 or 12 and I actually talked to skimbo about this About spot me and I had just remembered spot me Winning his belt winning a man classic and when he first won his belt. So this is we'll talk about a belt winner also People forget final four in the match just like joke Final four. I believe in the man championship The one Joker What's him called joke lost the problem. He made what I was gonna say made the ultimate league last year Man classic his his resume really is underrated, honestly Like I said has a championship Close to a hundred thousand dollars. I'm not sure I gotta go check mr. Donnie the super list journey had to send me the super list Today, but he's made a lot of money And this is where I wish I had like the exact Exact finishes, but he's actually had a really underrated career outside of winning a belt and saying so So I definitely think I Definitely think spot me deserve this spot. Where's he at? Yeah, 95 thousand dollars spot me Please has made a man. So so it definitely was a good amount of money with the belt. I'm saying so to me That's where I had spot me Tremendous career another person. I mean life cut short obviously resting peace. I can't say it enough I try to wear one of these t-shirts every single day because it is it is one of the biggest Concerns of my life that these guys get more attention because not only were the great man players. They were friends of all of us. So But I really thought it really did not Resonate to me how successfully it was you know, so He had tons of other runs other than Just winning a belt. So they have a belt 95 thousand and another final four and a final eight Definitely solid. That's why I have him over blocky The belt alone pretty much puts him this high and the next player I got number six. I have goals. I have goals Not only for winning the club championship last year that that was really solid But then we got to turn around and ghost made the final four of the club championship this year You know so that so to almost come that close to repeat and probably the hardest tournament of the year And you know and then also made the man challenge this year made the final six or whatever it may be or the final He made playoffs in Ultimate League. I definitely think ghost Ghosts should be high on this list and if you think about ghost man Even as much as I don't want to get into a what-if thing because it's a lot of what ifs for a lot of players But ghost miss hella field goals that make live events and man 17 Missed hella field goals all over like ghost could have made a lot more money and had a bigger Impact in the MCS then he did if he just tightened up a couple things man And I think we all say ghost was one of the best players Ghost is one of the best players In the last three years, you know whether it be 17 18 or 19 ghost is one of the best and it's a win the hardest tournament or the biggest tournament last year and I don't think it was bigger than Ultimate League, but it was a huge tournament the club championship I believe ghosts only won 30k for this belt and And then to come final four again this year make the man challenge this year He didn't have the run he wanted in the man challenge But so to make a final four make another event this year and had the big win last year. I think ghost is definitely pretty I'm definitely on this list number five I'll number four. I'll tell you right now. Number five is problem You know problem I put in it can't this one come down to I think four and five is me and problem Whatever way you look at it. That's how I see it and to me also me just comes down to I have a championship and I'm saying Problem has four finals, you know, which is pretty good. Obviously is great. Um The money he's close to two hundred thousand dollars and that's without winning shit this year And I think I believe he got twenty five hundred this year. So he made a little bit of money this year. Um, problem is definitely a Definitely been very consistent. I think I want to say the salary cap events have been his best. Um Obviously losing the stiff losing the skimbo losing to me and those three and the other one and goals So the all salary cap events the one thing about problem the salary cap events. He's been dominant And shoot if it's just salary cap he might even be higher But the one thing and this is just the prettiest thing is me or problem who has had better four years The one thing I mean, I guess it really doesn't matter, but I have done differently well in all the different events Not necessarily just one. I don't know if that's a plus. I don't even know if that probably doesn't even matter I mean the money's doesn't really matter the mold, but uh Problem like I said, you can't Then this word comes down to is it about the money or is it about the championship, you know And that's pretty much what it comes down to it's just all your opinion Of course, I'm gonna put myself because I'm just slightly biased because it is myself. So, you know what I'm saying? So You know, so to me it's like I wouldn't be mad if you put problem higher because money at the end of the day. He is I believe second highest I don't know if that's still after Madden Bowl. Let's take a look at what the list is I believe he said kid might be over him. Yeah, kid has surpassed them But still to have about a hundred and ninety K without winning the belt is really high So it just comes down to do you want the money or do you want the championship? and that's pretty much what it is and We'll see go ahead a So problem at five four. It's gotta be me and Obviously, I'm the greatest player to ever walk the earth and So I could have been higher, but I didn't want to make this show about me But no, in all honesty chat, um, I have a championship I'm probably to this day was probably the biggest man tournament of the MCS And That and the one thing I will take no matter if I ever win another game a man I beat the two best man players in the world I beat the two best man players in the world in my final four and and then I beat Hollywood Who was the the best player at the time? We won seventy five thousand for the spell seventy two after fines Seventy-two after fines only player to get fined by EA. I'm I really am a legend, but honestly That's how I did beat the two best players in the world And that's something to this day like I did the two best players in the world Then I made the man challenge the next tournament then I made the man championship got out of groups and that barely So after this man 17, I didn't do too much come back man 18 Made the first live event on the online the on dude I will tell you to me Planet online man classic and man 18 and making the live event of that was probably the happiest I had been in Madden Probably the hardest and toughest fights that I've had in the man classic and man 18 wound up going through and all my group making that final four losing the joke on the Sheldon Richardson interception And I believe I got picked off by defensive lineman and joke accepted or off-sides call on my computer to get in field Or range that's a game. I wish I could have bad of all the games and MCS That's the one I wish I could have back to go to another finals. I would have killed skimbo But so to make the final four in the next event and this was the year if you guys remember man 18 It was only eight people that made live events, you know So so picture alive clubs we talk about clubs And for me I had to make a decision as far as what making a live event meant in clubs And to me I think we got to come up with some more There's winning a winning your club alone making that final 32 is that does that equal a live event or? Does making final 16 in the tournament does that equal making a live event, you know Because this year the one thing about it was it was definitely so tough to make live events this year It was because it was only eight people so four for so four for each system And what's crazy about the man classic online four people were already at the event So there's only two people per console that made this event Man classic man 18 so for me and you had to win one game online elimination I played franchise then you had to go to groups Get out of groups then you had to put I had to play three more rounds of single single elimination And which I'd be short text is going and then I beat prodigy then I beat blocky to go to the live And so for me making that first live event was hard as shit, and I'll tell you guys that to um So essentially if making I that's why I think that first live event What was just weighed so much to make that man. It definitely was really tough and um Then to come back and I laid down in clubs Uh, I did not play well in clubs that year, but then I made the man challenge Which was pretty much equally as hard to make As the man classic and I was the only person that made both the man classic live event and the man challenge live event Then ultimately lost the game the journey to go to the final four journey fucked me up I lost that game. So I definitely had uh, didn't I win any championships made one final four Made the final six or whatever. I made it out of groups in the man challenge Uh made the final six of or the final eight or if the final eight of ultimate league So I really in over $50,000 a man 18. So I really had a good man 18 Not great, but it was really good after winning having you know the second best man 17 you can have So that that's why I put myself up there. Uh, it's tough not having a year not playing this year. It really hurt Uh, because I feel like I would have made you know 20 30 000 by accident this year So that's pretty much why I put myself fourth. But like I said four and five is probably man proud Whatever you way you want to put it uh, and then number three, I got kiv kiv and was crazy about kiv and journey And even skimbo mess, but all these guys like if they didn't win they lost to each other You know and I felt like that's you know The one thing about kiv is that he lost to skimbo a lot And he lost to skimbo in absolute hell games You know and we're gonna that's one segment that I'm going to bring during the summer Is the best man games at mcs and kiv and skimbo probably have four or five of them, honestly And if it wasn't for skimbo or you know, journey then kiv would have had this much more success And same thing for journey man if he didn't lose the kiv or skimbo, he would have had this many more belts You know, so so the the best thing about these top three players is that when they lose they lost to each other It's not like they laid down other than journey losing to dj lamas Shout out to dj lamas It's really cool because these guys really only lost to each other and you could look at the people They lost to them like damn That guy kiv could have had x amount more belts skimbo could have had x amount more bells or what's more Journey could have had this many more belts so it definitely was Definitely kiv is my third player mad 18 championship Madden 17 he was he was I mean, I don't know what he thinks but madden 17. I thought kiv was outstanding and madden 17 I think both games against skimbo Uh, especially the madden challenge game against skimbo. I I fully believe that kiv was the best player in the madden challenge, um The madden challenge madden 17 I thought kiv was the best player and skimbo just played a good game played as good as he could held on and beat kiv in that game and uh Same thing in madden bull 17 kiv was really good The game came down I believe skimbo was down two possessions in the fourth quarter and the game came down to a chuck in the end zone And skimbo broke it up So kiv had two crushing losses to skimbo that really helped You know stopped him from making more money and possibly winning more belts But I think there's no doubt about a kiv is is pretty much locked in the number three spot Uh, so I mean pretty much everybody's listed being the number three spot number two spot is getting close But number two is journey man, uh Journey the last two years has been the number one player if you combine 18 and 19 journey is the number one player Uh, without a doubt. I mean four finals in the last two years Losing to kurtobin in overtime on a one one hitter quitter in overtime Losing to kiv it came down to one last play into the end zone Uh, so just you talk about what ifs journey could what if himself to four belts really, uh in the last two years So, I mean I think it's as close as ever as far as um Uh As far as one and two journey has been dominant the last three years He's been fabulous, uh and Listen, I mean I It's rare that like a player is that impressive to me But sometimes watching journey play is really impressive man, and it's exciting to watch him play um Play the game. I I don't think matt skimbo's man 17 was he was by far the best player man 17 and and he Was by far the best player man 17 by a wide margin. I don't think journey has anything compared to matt 17 Uh, but he's definitely on his way, and it's really close. But to me. I mean you just got to look at Two belts to three and I think skimbo still has the number one spot um But and skimbo texts me after the tournament. He said these kids are catching up. That's what he said and he was kind of disheartened, uh I'm pats boy. You're absolutely right journey is doing all that In spite of his parents not allowing him to play video games. That's crazy Uh, and then the number one we got skimbo three belts Uh, it really it like I said is really close right now man 20 As much as we've been saying skimbo is the new goat Man 20 man journey could pass skimbo really could the one thing that that I don't know if y'all agree about this though. Um Is that I I feel like skimbo pops journey though I feel like If they match up, I feel like I like skimbo every time Uh, completely different players. It's crazy how different they are Um, but I just and that one thing that sticks to me and like I talked about between true boy and joke True boy would always be joke and I just feel like skimbo would always be journey And they played this year in the classic and it was really ugly um So that's just how I do feel about it I feel like I might verse journey, uh Bet verse journey against any other player rather than bet verse skimbo verse any other player, but if they play head to head I think um But then what other player do you put in you just took a player out? Oh, you would take pop it now. Well, you know Popping went a lot of money and poppin. Uh, I want a belt, you know And um You can't just credit belts. That's why skimbo still has three of them things crazy that he won two belts for combined $55,000. I believe I think one was 25 and one was 30. I think that yeah, that's 55 k Uh, so that's definitely tough. That's if every belt was the same I think skimbo still does had the most money, but if every belt was the same, um He definitely would have the most money. So he Um strafing is in the top. Yes, that's a good question and strafing is probably somewhere in the teams Uh, the reason why he wasn't in my top 10 and I think these top 10s are pretty I think everybody's gonna have a pretty similar top 10 and the reason I didn't put strafing in the top 10 is because See here strafing has just made club series Like that's pretty much all his money. He won 75 000 on club series. So you're talking about another 20 k It's just been club series. And if we all know Obviously he was super impressive making that running club series this year But the last couple years club series has been nothing to run home about Um So For me if he'd have made another event even any other man classic any other man challenge Uh, you know, it's just he hasn't done much of anything other than club series you know So that's what he definitely is probably because he's been super consistently good Just hasn't made the same type of runs as he did did one one great run, obviously But he'd probably be around 15 16 somewhere around there really But is there anybody else you guys would put in this list? I don't even know if I have this list fully Fully put together if I can put it together All the way. Like I said, we'll go over again. This is my list. I got joker 10 Pivenin nine blocky at eight true boy is seven ghost is six problem with five Mia four kivitt three jrenia two skimbo at one I'm saying so. I don't even know who else I said true boy is prop true boys 11 for me Um, it was tough between him and joke the biggest thing was that uh, joke just was super consistent, man Uh, we talked about breakout players last week, but the rookie of the year this year for me Was cratobin it had to be me. He won a belt or pop and I forget exactly who I put But if you want to check out who I thought rookie of the year was last year listen to the podcast episode number 29 This is episode 30 That's a good question as far as knocking into the top 10 or who do I think will break out next year That's some of the predictions a prediction mcs prediction will probably be somewhere in july or something like that um But I I mean obviously clef. I don't know if he counts as somebody that's want to pop up randomly I clef is clef is clef really but 100k is a lot. I don't know stops. I hate when people say 100k you play three years on me 100k Hey, man, that's 100k more than y'all made in the mcs. That's how I feel You know and we would have played and what y'all felt it realizes that we would have played this Regardless, man, we we would play each other for 10 dollars 20 dollars We just love playing the game and fed the opportunity to make 100k To make a skimbo made a quarter million dollars and three and probably more than that since the man bowl play out You know and to say here and so do snow to love me No, it's pretty damn dope that all these players have made over six figures in the last three years So even if you take 110 dollars or 110 thousand divided by the three years You're taking in what 35 thousand dollars a year just on just on your tournament winnings Which isn't bad and a lot of people that make 35 thousand dollars a year Are the assholes that are home saying oh, that's not a lot for playing the game in bubba No, that's that's that's it's a good amount of money, man, and As much as you know, I'm not rich. I've never been rich Some of you guys might be rich some of you guys might make a quarter million dollars a year I don't know but I will tell you this changed my life making that much money being able to make a career Or just being able to invest my money in myself and my man career. It absolutely changed my life If you don't do anything with the money, it might not change your life, but me personally it changed my life So I will always say a hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money I don't care if you make it over six years or you make it over one year or six months I always feel like it's a lot of money, but the money is all Perspective it's all relative to what your life is like But I will tell you right now for a regular human being a regular guy that just played real games and worked Absolutely this money changed my life. I cannot speak for the rest of the people I cannot speak for skimbo and his horses and his white picket fences. Maybe it didn't change his life But me myself it absolutely changed my life. So from people say just know a lot of money I think that's super ignorant because it's just all relative, man You know That's all That's how I feel about it. I hate people that just uh, you know, we can be making no money You know, and I hate to be the ones like yay ea be awesome Thank you. Yay. Shit because there's a lot of stuff they do wrong and a lot of stuff I don't like the company about But uh, the fact that there's you know, what we looked at just eight people that made over a hundred thousand Now there's probably so many more that made over a hundred thousand How was that? How can you look at that and not be cool? And how can that this is just how I feel about how can you look at something like this like where you look at People making over a hundred thousand dollars and say that's not a lot like this shit for me I I mean Maybe Kevin's super rich. Maybe you know saying he always had Gucci jackets and he always had all this stuff Maybe problem, you know, maybe I mean It this is problems life this type of shit made Let me not the tournament but mad made problems life. You know saying that that's made him who he is journey Journey is from Albania. He has he sleeps in the twin bed You know saying they speak babushka in his family. You know saying of course this should change during their journey life This is journey's life now. This is life changing shit And if there's little crabs in a barrel to sit here and say some shit like oh, well, man That's not a lot of money. No suck a dick. This shit is life changing Period You know saying I love why I hate stuff like that, man You know and so nothing more in there than people just hating just just just saying some hate and shit It's not a lot of money Okay, well, I'll continue to take this hundred thousand. I I me christmas fun. I'm happy over here. Yes, I'll take 20 000 dollars for 20 Yes, I'll take 8 000 dollars for winning a couple games of mad. Yes, sir. Thank you. Yes, sir. Please man. I have some more Yes, I'm fine with that Like yeah, it's just corn balls, man Just mad angry people that say negative things about this money. Yeah, I'll God forbid I wish this was three times as much I wish I made 400 500 000 dollars here Then I'd be talking way more big shit then needed gaming would be way bigger You know saying it would be enormous. I'd be doing so much more shit for man. But for what it is. It's pretty damn good I'm saying I always hope it is I'm saying And to be the people that It'd be the people that are just crumb balls that just just hate on it. I just I just hate people's mentality, man. There's There's no reason to have a bad mentality. I'll tell you guys that's man There's no reason to have there's no reason to be negative in life at all other than you're miserable with yourself period Journey is not journey will be fat one day But he too skinny to get fat in one year though It's gonna take like 30 year old journey might have a beard and we're seeing harrell on him. You know saying it might be That's awful, man It's just like and the thing about the mcs, which is cool As much as we talk about man, we want something for the man The fact we all making some decent money if you put if you're like a top 30 man player top 50 man player You probably made 20 30 k from playing met Now here go come on chat. Come on. He's 30 k is a lot of money Listen, I will tell you this man All these guys on this list would play this game regardless whether we were playing it for 20 dollars a game or I done played this shit on a man for free If I made a million dollars you could divide it by if I if my this list set a million dollars for w Right and you divided it by the hours that I have played john man football since my life. It's not worth it No, I probably make two dollars an hour. Even if I made a million dollars It's just it's just crazy how you could ever hate on it really honestly, man that's all But I don't want to get into this man I done talked about the crabs in the barrel the man community was full of crabs in the barrel And I will honestly tell you they're really not in the competitive community man They really aren't us us competitive guys. We're really not crabs. I think we're kind of happy with everybody Man, I've been playing man forever If I got paid if I got paid a dollar for every man game I played I would have made more money than I I don't know if I made 140 have I played over 140 000 games of man? I don't think so I don't think the man the man community is that toxic ours isn't I'll tell you that Yeah, Vilma will listen if you want to watch Vilma play tune in this Sunday because I am commentating and He will either win or I will he will get I will flame the shit out of him on the mic. It will get bad Don't what's up, uh, but yeah, this was the needed podcast episode 30 man, uh, 30 straight years Uh, I will tell you guys man I feel like the the competitive man community is as close as ever And most of that is contributed to Jacksonville I mean as much as it sucked and it ruined my life it changed my life It has definitely made the man community extremely closer to the competitive side Like I feel like I'm tighter with everybody that was there everybody that I experienced that with I feel like I'm even better friends and I will always be friends with those guys and it has made us, you know Less negative it has made us way more positive and and one thing that uh That we talked about when it happened was that uh Try our best to make it a positive thing and when we look back on it, man I I think it's hard to ever say it'd be a positive thing But we'll be able to look back and say we made the best of it. I think that's That's what we'll be able to say is that did not ruin us and we made the best of it really that's pretty much why What what I want to be able to say and that that's why I feel like the competitive community is not toxic I don't think it is at all. I think the people that can't get into the competitive community Or or aren't good enough to get those are the toxic people And and another thing I'll tell you about this is anybody can be in a competitive community There is nothing stopping you from joining the twitch chat to joining these podcast chats to being in chat to being in problems chat cleft chat Whoever streaming a money game you can be in their chat talking gambling. You can always be a part of this community We do not keep anybody out of this community, man Whether you want to whether you want to play and compete or you just want to be a guy in the chat Be a member of it. There's so many opportunities for you to join this. It's not it's not as you know There's nothing stopping you from being a huge part of this community, man and and honestly to me The people I see That you know emulate that the most is one is jay burr Who jay burr? I had no no idea who the hell jay burr was But jay burr loves madden loves competing loves playing Jay burr is not that damn good. He's pretty damn average I'll like he honestly he's pretty shitty really like he really is But he's a good guy and he loves madden and he's in the chat all the time And he really pays attention to it and he's a bigger part of this community as anybody Honestly like and so that just tells you guys that bro You can be a part of this and everybody's cool with him and obviously it's going to be some weirdos that hate on somebody trying to get in the community but You know, he's here, you know, because he likes it and there's a lot of y'all out there I get that question on a time How can I become part of the man community, man? How can I get take that next level and the competitive man? And my number one thing to you is the twitch chat is is it? You know, especially this time of the year when a twitch chat is not flooded with people Wanted to learn how to play not flooded by people that want daily drops just full it. It's probably 100 to 200 People that love madden that watch it all the time all days of the week And uh, they just constantly being a twitch chat. I think that's the first step to being part of competitive community And like I said the other person I think just popped out of nowhere between twitch and Grinding the game is monkey. Like I don't know who the hell monkey was now monkey's good at the game and he's in a twitch chat all the time So it there's really nothing stopping you from being a part of this community, man And don't be intimidated by it. You can get into it because I know Dude, there's not 200 300 people that want to be good at man There's way more people than that man And I want you guys to know that it's here man. It really is it's definitely a spot It's definitely want to be a spot for uh, any one of you guys to join if you just put for it the effort the twitch chat's the spot to start honestly We are not worse than jay bird. I just said that he's a pretty average To shitty man player, but he's a huge part of his community You know because he wants to be and he knows more about most of the shit than me Jay bird is my statistician when I need dates and info jay bird knows it all But but that's what I'm saying man, that's probably the biggest question I get is how do I become part of community twitch chat is number one speaking of twitch that twitch.tv slash dub dot YouTube you hit that link watch these podcasts live 7 p.m. Eastern Uh, every every tuesday for 30 straight weeks. It will be 31 street weeks next week I have to think of a topic man And one thing I want to have on the show is a bunch of youtubers I'm going to have I'm going to have a podcast with cc and skull moment But the biggest thing I'm like what content could competitive players and youtube guys really talk about I'm thinking more of a wishlist type thing Or We could talk about not even doing man 20 wishlist. It could be uh, I'm thinking The difference in what a youtube person looks for in a game and what somebody competitively playing a game looks for Also somebody creating content and strategy for the game. What do they look for? So you kind of have a different view of what because I feel like I just feel like youtube people just look for you mean you just looking for the next video to blow up and make you Hella money. It's not necessary that you love playing mad and you just look at this is what the hot content is Let me go ahead and get on that. So it's definitely could be something good Uh good to compare with those guys man. I definitely want something entertaining and something that You know can get different people's opinions in there really get gut fox Gut fox could be a good uh There we go but anyway This was the new podcast episode 30 man Uh 30 straight weeks. I appreciate all your support man. I'm working on some big sponsorships I'm probably bringing you guys more news next week Looking to partner myself and needed gaming with a couple companies a couple websites a couple things that You know give you guys some offers for different merchandise different websites you guys can use Someone and so forth, but I've definitely been working hard right now as I said earlier in the show that You know trying to grind and prepare not only for the summer, but for man 20 man 20 is going to be a huge year For myself and needed gaming everybody involved. We are as a whole going to take the next step in this esports stuff uh But like I said, this was needed podcast episode 30 if you're on youtube Hit that like button and let me know if my top 10 was cool. I thought it was pretty good. I don't think it says Cut throat. Maybe I should make a top 25. That's when we really start talking shit between like between like Five and 25. Everybody wants to be higher. So I think the top 10 is pretty pretty cut and dry I think there's there's really not too much to argue about it Some of it comes down to what do you value more wins? And you know championships consistency whatever it may be so comment below on what your top 10 was Hit the like button if you're on soundcloud Hit I don't even know what you can do on soundcloud, but hit a like button comment below Everything, you know, this was needed podcast episode 30