 Thank y'all so much, Gene, Janet, do you want to join us, that's okay? I'm all over the day, y'all, sorry. Obviously, y'all, let's pray with our city manager as she recovers. A little medical leave? I spoke with her yesterday. She was in pain, but other than that, she's good and taking some rest. She doesn't know how to take, so I think she's bored laying down. Excited to have Jeff here as an active city manager. He has to learn words other than know. She should provide for short meetings, I guess, right, if nothing else. I keep saying, no, we keep agreeing, it'll be real short. So, Teresa, if you're crazy enough to be watching us right now, we miss you. But we're going to rock and roll. Get things done. Rev, you want to pray or please? Thank you. Pro that you've done for us for this day and for all of the gracious and hopeful possibility you allow in us to share it. Be with us today as we gather around this table to discuss the business of this our city. Be with our city manager as she continues to heal. Allow her to feel and to sense your presence. We ask it in your name. Amen. Thank you so much. Mr. Palin. Okay. Mr. Mayor, members of council, our first item on the, for the work session today is our fiscal year 2018-19. General fund, department revenue proposals. And Ms. Missy Hoffman, our budget program management director. We'll start the presentation discussion. So as we start to delve pretty deeper into the FY 18-19 budget discussion, we are continuing our conversations from last year and going forward in terms of considerations for revenue proposals and considerations that support primarily the general fund. So what we're bringing to you today are two different department presentations. One is a proposal for a, potentially a brand new revenue fee that we currently don't currently charge. The other is a return of some proposed adjustments to various rates for parks and recreation that's been discussed in the past, edits were made. So we're bringing that one back forward to talk through those changes as well. But as we go, as we're going through and we look at the sources of the general fund, one of the things we wanted to keep in mind as we're talking is the sources of revenue that the general fund just had, currently has, just as we can keep some things in perspective. Especially as we look at what sources of revenue support the operations and the activities of the general fund. Currently about 38% of our revenues are covered by property tax. Another 29% is covered by licenses and permits. Next to that would be charges for services of about 11%. So those would be the charges and the activities that, and then the one that's apparently not showing up is, would be intergovernmental services. So those are the different types of activities that fund the general fund primarily from revenue sources for various things. As you can tell, property taxes, 38% only covered generate only about 38% of our revenue streams to support the general fund. And our general fund budget right now is about $140 million. To get those 4,000 pieces of property that aren't paying property tax into the fold through some type of funding sure would make that look a lot better. So that's a perfect leadway into some of what we're bringing forward to you in terms of segue into other sources of revenue streams in the sense of helping to provide for a revenue stream that helps cover the cost of the services that we're offering. But also too it is something to help us more equitably distribute the basically the tax burdens that we share for the services that we provide. So the first one we're going to talk about is street lights. And actually I'm going to turn this over to Robert Anderson to talk a little bit more distinctively about we've talked about this this fee before. It's been a little while. It's something that's come up, but Robert has more information to provide. Thank you. Over the past several years, the Public Works Department continues to add street lights throughout the city of Columbia. We bring every one of them to council to add so that we know that we're that we're adding them consistently. So right now what we've done is put together during the budget process this year proposal. We lease about 9400 lights from SCENG. We own about 2330 lights. Most of our lights are decorated lights. The rates paid by the type of lights we're only installing Cobra heads now 150 watt Cobra heads $9 and 91 cents a month. Cobra heads with 400 watts is $17 and 71 cents. And the decorative lights are a little more different. We average about $27 a month. Some of them could be $34 or $5 a month. Some of them could be a little cheaper. It depends on what kind of pole you put in, what kind of base, what kind of light. Is it with a light or is it the just the coverage on those are overall right? I mean that's that's more than just the power, isn't it? Yes, the decorative lights as we're leasing the lights yourself and the light and the whole everything. We stopped that process about probably eight or nine years ago. And we only want to own any decorative lights that we've owned. So we average the 1771 decorative. No, those are just the Cobra heads that hang over the street. That's the ones you want because they provide enough wattage and they're good security deterrent. We currently add average about 68 light additions per year. Neighborhood calls and said they've got some dark spots. Police Department calls said they got some dark spots. We'll go out and evaluate the neighborhood. Make recommendations to counsel and add them through that process. So our average electric bill for the Cobra heads and the decorative lights is about $2 million. Each year. So what we did is we proposed of adding a $5 fee per month per partial for an estimated 45,000 partials. That includes exempt taxes, tax exempt and everybody else. So it actually does include everybody. And we do consider that everybody benefits from a street light when you're driving down the street, no matter if it's in your neighborhood or not as part of the safety issues for the city. And they failed to put up here how much we would generate, but I think it's about 2.4 million. Jeff, your figure? It's like a camp fee. Close? Yeah, 2.7. 2.7. So what you're saying is, well, I mean, if you do it, then you need to go ahead and put lights everywhere. Not wait. If you're going to charge everybody, you can't charge somebody. They don't have street lights. The street lights are almost all over the city. Well, yeah, but I agree. We need, since we're in charge, we should put them all over the city. Is there, I'm sorry. Yeah, because I'm getting requests. There's a strategic spot. How far are we? And I guess it might be as much a question of us versus SCMG. How far are we away from being able to have smart lights? I mean, lights that dim when there's no human activity or vehicular activity? Was that there? 2.7 million. That dim when there's no activity and then obviously light up when there is activity, for our approach and our visual approach, that obviously helps you save money. And I'm thinking, it's one thing to parcel out the responsibility. It's another thing to tell people to actually get out as well with this additional fee. And I have that. I'd have to look it up. The fees either. And I'm going to talk about the Rome systems, what we call it. Bull Street has actually got some of the Rome units on it. To work the Rome, we have to have, now you're talking Ron Armstead, spin us around here right now. For the Rome system to work, you've got to have a direct line of sight back to something so we can actually control them. So the way Bull Street would work, if we would pay the Rome, which is either $2 a month or $5 a month, we would be able to control the wattage of light that goes out to them. So we could at two o'clock in the morning, we could drop them down to 50 or 60% or 40% or 30% power and then bring them back up. I don't know that noise or anything like that would bring them back up. The Rome system is available, I think, to put on regular street lights. But there again, you've got to have Wi-Fi signals and you're back to smart cities where we need to get that stuff from. We have looked at it. We've talked about putting the one in on Bull Street just to see how it worked. There are several different types of systems being deployed all around the world. But again, if you're talking about some initial one-time expenses that get that $2,040,000 down automatically with some initial expenses, then spreading some type of a camp fee across every parcel. Because that's a $5 per month for a parcel. If you've got a $50,000 house or $50,000 building, I like the approach. But I think we can't just be about sharing the love. It's got to be about sharing some benefit too. I don't know what it looks like. You guys have been talking about planting the rest of y'all on smart city stuff. I'm just curious to see if we can get an idea of what that costs. In that very least, maybe, if we were to do this together the first years, five bucks a month, we'd be able to go ahead and upgrade our lighting across the entire city with the smart technology that again should bring down that $2,000,000. And then we can still spread the burden in some way, but people are getting a greater benefit. We also have some aspirations we've done real well in the VISTA switching over to LEDs and lowering the wattage of that. But what happened when you lowered it? There was some discussion on North Main. The Kelvins on LEDs haven't come around enough to where you're still going to have that blue light, yellow light, and you've got to watch where you do it to make sure that they all, I would think, somewhat match. You just don't want to have one light blue and one light, or one light, I call it blue and one light yellow. We've got all the street lights at LED now, right? Traffic lights. Robert, the 45,000 estimated number of parcels, will there subsequently be an increase in the number of parcels? I would think with any annexation. That's what I was thinking. And has there been some talks about how much of that will increase that number of parcels? Or a large annexation. But it remains at $5. Where would you put the $5? That's what I was going to ask. Our last line is talking about some of those things we have to take into consideration is a natural method. We do have a couple of options, not all of them fully thought out, but we do have some options. Some of them probably may be more favorable than others. Then you've got to balance that as well. I mean, if we're going to be generating bills, the cost of that. And to adequately define the areas that we've got to avoid, the number of street lights, in areas where there's rich dark. I'm going to look a bit about it. You mentioned it at the very beginning. I don't need to order how we do that. Who makes that assessment? Sounds like a cat. At the minimum, what we do now is if a police department calls in to the gusts and dark areas, or if a neighborhood calls in, we'll do a neighborhood-wide survey. Then we will bring that map to council and add additional lights based on those recommendations. So the recommendations come to public works, go back to the neighborhood, two public works, two city council for approval, and then to generally a city line personally. Is that you? No. We don't talk about it. We don't. We can't. The total collected between all is approximately $13 million from all of our franchises. We cannot say that. What I'm getting at is the $2 million we pay them for those street lights is probably about an offset of what they pay us for. Well, not all $2 million goes to them. Well, it's $13 million. That's the total of all franchise fees of the biggest player in that group. All of the respect. They don't pay us anything. That's true. That's exactly right. Right. So in these... All of the franchise fees are that way. They're all passive. It's cell phone, cable, cell phone. There's a big savings in LED bulbs. Well, I think, too, the challenge there, too, is that some of these areas that we have lights, the reason we have the light in the wattage we have is for security, so the brighter, so the LED takes away from some of that, too. So it's a catch-22, depending on where you're going. Now, you know, if you go down Dervais Street and you've got 75 street lights all in a row, then that might be a place for LED. But in my neighborhood, that corner lot with the 400 watt on the corner lights up the whole corner, which gives that added security. You take that away, then you've got a beam going down, and then you've got a lot of blind spots. Who services the 2,300 city on the street light? Our staff does. SC&G has a crop that comes through and replaces the bulbs on there? On theirs, correct, as we report them. Police Department's done a good job of reporting them to Austin, sending light back to SC&G. Is there any method to the dispersion of the lights? Are we all over the city at 2330? Are there certain areas? Most of them are main thoroughfares. There are a couple neighborhoods. One of them being Elmwood Park that I think Missy did a few years ago. It was done with a neighborhood grant or something, I believe, Missy? It was for their continuum. Maybe one behind the view. Is it a newer one? I guess a city-owned one. These are city-owned, and then the university has city-owned decorative lighting. That whole $27 there? An assessment for darkened spots has not been done, or it has been done. We address every concern we get with a survey, yes. And I do want to point out, this is worth, I understand what you're trying to say. If you go to Shandon, all the power from Shandon comes from back lots. So if we add any street lights in Shandon, we actually have to add a pole to the street, and it has to be fed from the backyard. So when Shandon calls, so everything's a little bit different, when Shandon calls, we actually go to all four property owners on the corners and say, we're getting ready to put a light here, string a line from the backyard to front line. Is this what you want? And in the end, we are looking for a solution of what they want to add or not want to add. Now generally, on most of the streets that's got power that's located on the front of the streets, we'll just install co-bran. I was going to be, my point is, I think going to Sam's original point, I think it's worth exploring. I think we're going to need to fully understand kind of where our lighting issues are and be able dress those in some manner because you're going to get people saying, well, you know, I'm paying for lights in the VISTA or, you know, that kind of thing. And I know and Robert, you responded to the email a couple weeks ago from Highland Forest, but we put the lights out there, but apparently it's not enough. She didn't know they were at it. She didn't know they were at it, but I think she's thinking they're not enough because it's still, for them it's still dark. And so once we start talking about this, they're going to say, well, we need more lights and you're going to have some communities who are going to say, well, we don't have enough lighting, so we're going to need to be able to address the equity of, you know, the lighting, the disbursement if this is going, if every parcel is going to pay the same thing. That's my point. That's exactly it. There are areas in communities that are. How do we get a better handle and then, that it be some equity in our shining of light in the community? Councilman, I think I'd answer that by saying that you would do photometrics to make sure that the lighting is such of what they are, whether it's be a 2.0 or whatever foot candles, but I think that what would happen is your $2 million electric bill would become, it could become $4 million at that time. It depends on how many you added. So, you know, whatever lights you add, you're going to add at a minimum $11 or $10 a month and possibly $17 a month. But how do we adequately, try and light it? I guess what I'm going to do, I guess what I'm asking is, how do we, how do we assess what we already have? I could just add. I mean, so basically, even if people don't call in the morning. That's correct. Because a lot of folks still feel voices. We don't assess. We don't assess. So how do we assess where there are maybe challenges? And that probably requires a bit more, even more community engagement maybe falls more into our six person billiwick here. But seeing you guys a great article from Los Angeles. And obviously, you guys are trying to raise money. We're trying to spend it as you, if you had to figure that out, this is, this is quickly. We're trying to spend it and figure out how we can save more and have a smarter and more effective city. This article in Los Angeles, in Merton, to save, of course, so much larger, but saving nine million a year with LED street lights and they've done some other stuff with charging stations and the poles that they are upgrading the poles, some of the smart poles, with that 5G infrastructure in the center. So that's a good article. Very good article. So I like this a lot. I think, well, that's really the kind of conversations we're looking at here too in the sense of what revenues do we offer? Do we have that help us to equally distribute the cost of providing services? As you can see, property taxes by far don't cover the majority of the services provided, but then too, half of our parcels are paying this profit. How many of those 45,000 are non-profit owned or non-? I think anywhere from 40 to 60%, it depends on who you ask and who you ask. But that's worth property tax. But that's worth non-taxable. That's worth putting. This is all parcel. That's worth putting another bullet on so folks realize that this is, again, as best as we can in the city with our DNA, trying to share the responsibility, is worth referencing that. And there are a lot of questions, obviously, which I've raised with regards to the areas that don't feel like they have the adequate service, how do you charge that rate to them? So those are the kind of conversations we feel like we needed to have with you all before we ourselves decided this wasn't something to bring forward to you, but in terms of having these conversations, bringing forward to you everything that sort of comes our way. My big concern is if you put that thing on the water bill, the water bill is getting saturated right now. That's one of our considerations. I wouldn't know that. You'd be better off just assessing it once a year if you move forward on the property tax. That's it. And that's another consideration, too, is the investments. Let's get you on your project. Let's get you some more points. Going back to your first slide, I was surprised to see that we get 1% in fines and forfeitures. That's an unusually small percentage. Thanks. Judge told. It's gone down. As we do it constitutionally. As the general fund budget grows, of course, that number gets more insignificant, but we've collected about the same. No, she did not allow us to use third party to collect. We don't have the ability to collect in the process that she struck down to allow us. We got millions of dollars sitting out there that we can't collect because we can't use third parties to monitor and get that money from those folks. And what now? We can collect our parking fines as we know, not when you don't have their address. So the next one we have is Parks and Recreation fee adjustment. You should have received a copy of the ordinance. These are our proposals that Parks and Recreation may bring. Randy will come up and talk to you a little bit more about these are answering questions you have about. That's new mayor City Council. These fees that we're, that are before you are essentially swimming these that we've been charging is just, they never showed up in ordinance. We needed to have some consistency and stability in our fee structure. And we thought of the minimum fees that we could recommend charging the customer. The classes, camps and programs, the culture, art, being in a new facility, we wanted to ensure that the fees were assessed that would be affordable based on the type of camp or specialty camp that served in our art center. In addition to the classes, under the classes, the art center wanted to increase the classes by $10 per class. Randy, you're saying that the swim, this is what we're charging now? We just had to cut-ify it? Is that what you're saying? Yes, sir. It was never in our ordinance. That's what we're doing now. So we're cut-ifying what we're doing now, but not the camp. The camp fees are the arts. The classes were always in the ordinance, but we're asking to increase the $10 there as well as the camps here. Not including our regular standard camps. We're not increasing the fees in our summer camp program. At some point, you're going to school us on what would happen at the art center, exactly what the way forward there is. Not right now, not right now. I think I'd ask for that to be on the future agenda. Okay, let's figure that out in my build-up. Nice friends. I've got a question. So again, cut-ifying, that's already the case. All right, that's all right. We're charging. Bottom part, not this part. Okay, but these would be new or increases, right? The bottom part. Can you clarify the swimming part? Where is that? What do we do through wellness? Because that says $1,200 for two months. Right, for swim team practice. Outside groups. Outside groups, private schools. This is not true. Drew fees is not shown on this screen in terms of swim team practice. And I don't want to misquote, but I would assume that those fees are the same when we have a school practicing in real wellness. But oftentimes, I don't believe we have swim team practices at Drew because of the nature in which it is used. We eat it because it's grateful. Frequent use. Swimming in general, the $3 fee. Is that for young, cute, public kids? Walk up. $300. You're talking about the individual. I'm sorry, I thought that was $3. Individual fee for swimming. Those fees have not been changed. Yes, that's for the general public. What about the policy? Because last summer was the world's complaints I got. The policy is that we don't turn a kid by because he can't afford to come in. Is that correct? Well, we try not to cost him and Davis in terms of the fee, but we have no way of assessing. We can establish some guidelines to determine affordability. I thought we did that because Greenview was the big issue last year. The kids were turned back because they didn't have the money to pay. I thought we tweaked that policy. It brought to my attention. For clarity, if we don't have that policy, I would suggest that we kind of discuss that because if you look at Greenview, or you look at, I guess, Greenview, the neighborhood, the border, that area, and kids that would likely come and they may not have the jingles in their pockets. The question is how do we handle that and maintain a positive PR on that? That's been something we haven't been able to bring forth as a proposal to the council. However, if that's my charge, I'm going to... It would certainly be tear our benefit that we have some conversation as it relates to Greenview and your wilderness, as it relates to kids who want to come. There has never ever been a policy statement or anything referencing kids who want to swim or clean or pour the big paper. There's never been a policy. No, sir. Wait, just... I'm sorry. No, no. It just seemed to me... I know you have to set some criteria, whatever that criteria is, but right now we don't have anything. We just make a random judgment that someone comes or a kid comes to swim and pours and we turn them back. And I think you know that that could very well and ever be to some other issue that they can't be there. Traditionally, I've advised my staff to monitor those situations where children come up and can't pay and try to involve them into the swimming part without making it a broad announcement. It just seemed to me, and I'm sorry. It just seemed to me that there ought to be some conversation, some inclusion in the document to say when that happens. What are the things we need to look at? What are the things we need to do? What's a one, two, three, four step process that you allowed me to come in? You don't want to determine. I'm sorry. I was just going to say and I guess to that point there definitely needs to be a process because I think that a couple things. You run the risk of saying, well, how do you verify that the kid can't pay? Is it a kid that's out without their parents and they just want to get in? They don't have money or is it that they legitimately don't have the funds to pay? And secondly, if they are there without adult supervision, do we want to run the risk of that liability of a child coming in? We've let them in free and then something happens. I think that's an excellent point. We're taking on a tremendous amount of liability. Exactly. We're taking on a tremendous amount of liability. One of the things I would definitely, if that's a direction we want to go, that would need to be a requirement that the parent will have to be present with the child. I just hope we can open up the window so we have that kind of conversation and put on the table or put on the paper what it is that becomes a criteria for the age on the swing. I think if they have the opportunity, not all the time, not every day to swim, I think you eliminate the possibility of those kids coming in after hours or a night in that pool unsupervised. And the opportunity word, I think there, Councilman Davis, is the opportunity where the opportunity may not be every day, but it can be a select day. That's the key. We just make sure every child has access to public parks and make sure we have the structure in place to meet that. And it's the same concept of what we try to do in our athletic program. Every child plays. We try not to turn the child away. I think you guys do a good job and come up with a criteria that attacks the public and that sort of thing. Any more questions on this screen here? I have one more screen. These vendor fees, these are fees that's never been in our ordinance when we have special events at Finlay Park, the city-wide special events or events that Parks and Recreation is kind of taking the lead on. And it brings what I consider to be greater accountability with among our staff to ensure that we're consistent and fair across the board regarding various types of vendors. Do you know the fees that people are going to call us asking you to wait for these the same fees? I'm pretty sure. I can tell you these are cheap. Yeah, they are. They are really cheap. So what do we charge now? They charge you. As we go, we need some set fees. Just apply. Didn't they charge you? This brings, again, accountability to structure. In general speaking, you're going to always have to have your staff, they are doing something. Right. So when we have certain vendors, like I can go to an event this weekend and if there are 10 vendors and I know the different prices for those vendors, I should know how much revenue is coming in. Right now, I can't guarantee you all the ways that has been the case. This is when the fees that are there now, these are new, right? Yes, sir. How was it done to pay? Well, again, we didn't have it. Didn't have anything. All this is new. Yes, sir. No fees at all. We're charging. We're charging. We're charging. We're charging. We're charging. We're charging. We're charging. We're charging. We charged. We charged, but having something that's fair. At the end of the year, I can be able to clearly give you a record of, you know, how much revenue we brought in under various vendors. But that's, it helps me to clarify for me because when I look at this, I look at these being first time fees. Right. Anything that has for fee. We have been charging fees, but then again, this is what Mayor said quantifies exactly what way. They're between a snack, then they're at a food and drink. A soda and a pack of crackers. That's a drink. The food is chicken wings and fries. I might not make that up. Mr. Rick and the Mint. I guess my question is before we move forward in the fee, I think it'd be very helpful to know that whatever fee structure we did, I think they're low. I don't think it covers your costs and what it costs you to do it. If we're going to do an increase, you need to cover what it actually costs because you're going to end up with a deficit. There is no revenue at that point. I mean, we're not trying to make money, but we got to be at least cost neutral. What I would suggest is before we go out and do this, you figure out exactly what it costs you to run these events, to oversee that, and then we put that fee structure into place because you're going to be shorting your budget every year if you're still having to reach in your pocket to pay for it. It doesn't make any sense. The public needs to know what the real cause of that staff involvement. They got to pay like this. It would depend on the event though. Each event would have a different calculation. Wear and tear on the facility. Okay, say for instance, let's talk about a specific event. For example, kids day. Okay, we have a number of vendors, food vendors, possible merchandise vendors that may sell, you know, some various types of clothing. Arts and crafts vendors that they set up and do face painting. Okay, and these vendors, various types of vendors will be assessed a fee. Now of course, like Councilman Rickerman said, it may not cover the costs to have the event because again, it's a city run event. It's not the cost of the event. It's the cost of your staff time. That's what you need to be calculated in there. Can we, obviously, when I come back to this, I don't spend too much time on it. It would be worth getting an idea as to how this helps, actually helps with your budget. It's going to cost maybe a curl or a Frederick in a sense. Cost analysis. If you take me and Tamika out to make, she's going to save a whole bunch of money right there. We got more. You take ice skating out of her. You really saved some money. Now you're going to Medlin. It's Medlin. But generally speaking, I'm comfortable with everything. I do have one question though. A couple of years ago, we talked about, Miss, you were about to say something. I'm sorry, you were about to say something. Sure. About Chief Jenkins being able to recoup some of their expenses and fees as they respond to accidents or respond to events that may be covered by insurance and being able to recoup some of those costs, particularly when there's a clearly at fault party. Have we given any more thought to that? It seems like there are a number of other communities that are allowing the Prime Department to recoup some of those expenditures. And I think we balked on it, I'm not sure why. We had their conversation about a year ago. Two years ago. Yeah, I think that was years ago. Chief wrote in. And if there's some conferring or discussion, I want to talk to Aubrey about it. I'd like to put it back on the table. It will come up. We did institute the hazard. Hazmat fee was increased. We did that. We did that. This fee that you're talking about, I actually had some other conversations that we still plan to have with you during this budget cycle. That's fine. I'd love to see it again, particularly, there were several communities even around the state that were allowing party. Who's on it? I think in your discussion, I think it'd be helpful for us to also understand, you know, at the end of the day, EMS should be, since both city and county residents are paying for that service, they should be the one to respond to accident before than our fire truck. And, you know, that's been, our fire trucks end up responding, being first responders to a lot of it. Do you remember several years ago when we had that discussion, firemen actually liked being first responders. They were the ones who... Yeah, but right now, it is if I think Aubrey came in here and showed us what it cost him for all those calls, and he's getting no. And I guess the question comes in is, who both of them can't claim insurance? Or if we should actually provide EMS services. That's a conversation. Or that we should. That's a whole number of conversations. So, but let's... Okay. Also, while we're on Parks and Rec, we're on the other part with the Arts Center. Randy is working with Jan Alonzo and other staff to fix that. I've actually responded back to several... I gave everyone your cell phone number, Jeff. And some of the lawyers... I've had calls from you guys. And I don't know if Teresa's looked at this, but I had an attorney suggest to me if there was something that may be utilizing the Parks and Rec Foundation. We've looked at that, but we're also looking at the organization that's right next door, as in assisting us a lot. I certainly don't want to get this conversation with Chief Jenkins in that conversation. We had two years lost. One of the areas that is implementing that kind of plan is something happened. So, I just hope we don't get lost in translation and forget that we've had this conversation. Hopefully we can resurrect it and get Chief Jenkins back in the classroom. All right. Well, Randy, basically, what I think is trying to be clarified here in terms of this would not necessarily generate new revenues because these fees are being charged currently. Sure. So, in this case, and those revenues... Right. And these revenues go to the general fund, and Randy's support of Parks and Recreation supported our general fund. So, it's not an impact on his budget, per se, other than helping us to... There's no new net revenue, but it does affect his budget if we're not collecting enough to cover it. So, in next year's budget, he's already running a deficit. Which is probably true for a variety of our charges for services. Right. And so, we need to start looking at that. You know, in another county, to get the power hook back up in your building, you got to buy a permit for $120. Just for the power company to come out. And the reason is, is because the inspector has to inspect, they cover their costs. So, I think we do need to be looking at, as we make these, are we actually getting the cost? We're not here to make money, but to keep that at cost. And I think that's part of the conversations. I think we're trying to have with council as a whole in the sense of, where is the desire? Is it to get to more of a cost recovery mode? And knowing that the general fund supports a number of services that we provide that are fee-based services. And how do we balance those out? I wouldn't say spend those for a whole lot of time on it, but it gives a sense. And if, I mean, obviously, I think these fees are fine with them. Some of them are pretty modest. And obviously, also built to meet the needs of the vendor as well. I mean, you don't want to charge an archer to have $500, you know, a prayer for them to make $500, you know, that week. But it probably wouldn't hurt to have this have a good idea as if folks work hard. So, as far as next steps. Seeing what some of these gas jars are their stuff. Artisans. So as we look at next steps in terms of where we go with today's conversations and where staff focus its efforts and our time, in terms of the street lights fee, if there's a desire to kind of go there, we need to talk about methods of collections that we've already heard, you know, the desire to not put it as an item on the water bill for understandable reasons. Absolutely not. And then that leaves us with, you know, some other options that we have as well. Of course, we'd have to consider a draft in ordinance to determine what would be an effective date, which the effective date may be really more predicated on the methods of communications and getting that system set up or that process set up, I should say. Of course, bringing anything back for city council to review, and then we'd of course have to have a public hearing. So at this point, it's just a matter of how much more time and effort is there to consider this, or do we kind of wrap it up into the other conversations that we sort of have with regards to looking at the smart city initiatives and what we look there, especially as we look at areas of... I'm open to a smart street lights fee that obviously also focuses on inclusion elements that you mentioned. Make sure that, you know, you can do an assessment and make sure that the entire place is lit up and that... I mean, we just can't make... and obviously we're talking about sharing the burdens here, and obviously addressing a budget issue, which makes us CFL very happy, but at the very same time, I'm not sure we can... I don't think we can make any decisions going forward without thinking more about how we use the technology to make this city more effective and efficient and save us and our taxpayer and the ratepayers' money. And we know that there are several different technologies out there now that can help us do just that. I'm not sure how we can miss this opportunity to not just do that, but also make it clear to our citizens that this is a significant benefit to them. It can't just be that we're just spreading the burdens of everyone. I could support that. One of the challenges folks have in the neighborhoods is you go in certain neighborhoods. You don't see people walking once it gets dark, because they don't have that sense of feeling safe. Lighting does that before it brings more people. They have to be out until 12 or 1 o'clock in the morning, but early evenings when it's just getting dark, folks stop in their neighborhoods. They don't go out. They don't walk. Unless they go to a park to walk. The expectation is that the park is well-lighted, but in certain streets they don't get it. You know, when I go out with Robert and the guys, take the neighborhood with folks in a van right through that neighborhood so we can look at dark spots and what it would take to illuminate a certain area. It is not always a new light. It's cutting back the trees and things like that. So I think this gives people, as long as we can help folks feel more secure where they live, they'll be supportive for a modest speed. I think we're making a mistake pulling the street light. I would call it SmartSafe. SmartSafe. SmartSafe. Well, the article I read on Los Angeles, all the new polls we're not talking about much new polls, but all the new polls that they put up were able to help with their 4G infrastructure CUI. In that 5G, there's a real opportunity to watch that to have the feed to meet smart city needs that benefit the entire city at the very same time if we're doing the smart with LED and Hexsola and some, that $2 million and $40,000 go down over the same course of time. So deploying new technologies that literally help people keep them safe and alive is just a little bit more, but it'd be great to have something that we can do this budget year, but this is about being a smart city effective city. And certainly there are revenue options, but then also two cost-saving options. On the Parks and Recreation, it sounds like that before you would want us to move forward, public hearing wise on that one expectation would be to have that one sooner public hearing, simply for the fact that the season is going to be starting in May, but in this case it sounds like there's some request for additional information before we move forward with the public hearing or should what the direction would be. We'd have a public hearing in April. Still move forward, but the two issues that are raised were one, let's make sure we know we're spending, so at least we're just addressing that in some way and just make sure that you know how it's formulated and you guys do a really great job on your programs already Randy. Just make sure that it's clear how and when the children have access to families that end up being able to force them to have access to the parks that they can be. Articulate in some very clear and simple way so that we can do it. It will be very helpful. That's the real issue. That's the hard issue. I would suggest you look online and check the other cities to see what kind of fee structure they have. I agree with Daniel at least. Those fees are... Okay. Thank you all. Thank you very much. And we'll come back to some more top of the fire stuff too. Yes. We'll bring it back. I mentioned hearing some numbers on EMS too. I'm trying to get... You can all wind up, but it would be worth the sight. Thank you, Missy. The EMS man showing up versus Articulate. That's a good show. Next item, item two, is the Comprehensive Annual Financial Report. Otherwise known as the CAFER, fiscal year ending June 30, 2017, presenting what we, Mr. Budd Addison, senior manager for Webster Rogers. Hey, Budd. Good afternoon. Good afternoon, all of y'all have. Good afternoon. May I? Always a pleasure to be here. I look forward to this. So much that I'm willing to extend right off the bat, Mr. Duvall's request to come back again once he accumulates his 101 questions and we'll address those specifically. Otherwise, today, we'll hit a high level approach. I have no yellow tags on my pages because I didn't get this till first of the meeting. You know, this is such good reading that I don't know why the city's website didn't crash as soon as it was put up there, but some people just wanting to read it. Maybe we need to add more pictures. I don't know, but a couple of good points today were brought up that's going to incorporate into this document that may add some clarity. It may add some concern or man may have a heart attack before the stress test won't need the stress test. So, with that, I'd like to thank Miss Alonzo and her staff, professional cooperation and courtesy that they showed during this process and there was an unmodified opinion render, so we get that out of the way. Hitting the high points, if you look on page 23 on table 3 down at the bottom, that is a comparison between 17 and 16 on your water and sewer. They change in net position. You will see that the net position of that profit, if you want to use that term, decreased about $4 million in 17 and 16. That is probably not one of the highlights you wanted. On page 24 however, there you see the same table 4 as parking fund where the parking fund did show a surplus of 17 of about $246,000 versus about a half a million dollar deficit in 16. I think the million one of revenue was more significant than anything else. That is and I think a lot of that, you just have to walk the streets of Main Street to see why that million additional revenue came in. Did L start? Yes. It's a combination. Growth and management. Good revenue. It was hurt feeling. Good job. Sometimes a change is beneficial. We've always done it that way and always a good sign. On page 31, I would like to call your attention to the middle of the page. There's two captions. Net pension liability and net OPEC obligation. You can see there's three columns there. The left is the Government Activities which is basically everything except water and sewer parking stormwater hydro parks and rec camps your enterprise type funds all of your general funds special revenue capital projects. You can see that the total liabilities of the governmental activities is about 345 million. Out of that the net pension liability is 151 million. That is the state retirement. That's just a paper figure for us. By law the state does not the state has that obligation. From an accounting standpoint it really shouldn't be on your ballot sheet except it was going to be. Where the concern is for the city and other participating employees is that that liability is going to have to be paid. That's going to come through current contributions. That the city is structurally required to pay. That's the 18 percent we're going to be paying on our employees for their pension. Now the liability these are not compared to statements and I wish they were but the city's liability increased approximately 20 million dollars in 2016. New retirement laws? No just it's a combination of an actuarial study based on the investment return and the current contribution. Thankfully so the general market has been good for the past three years and if the retirement system is having trouble keeping up in the good years if it just gets to moderate in the year it's going to be that 151 million dollars is a figure calculated by the state and given to the city. It is based on an actuarial study. Done by feet not by the city. That is correct. Now just to be clear that 151 is for the governmental side the business side has 51 so the total city liability if I may use that term is about 203 million dollars. That's the chunk of money. Refresh my memory of the business water and sewer, parking, stormwater hydroelectric they wouldn't have 11 million dollars. Anything not general fund? Anything not general fund special revenue but it is primarily that's a big liability while the city is not obligated for the liability that liability will have to be satisfied by the good portion of current contribution so the rate that has been increasing past couple years is probably likely to continue in the foreseeable future. The other one is the city responsibility and that's the OPEB obligation and that's going to get a little more involved when we talk about home but that 53 million is an approximate estimate and it's based on the natural area of what the city does. You can see outside of your revenue bonds and your geodebt the city's the biggest liabilities and even the pension liability exceeds the bonded indebtedness in the general fund for the government that would be a concern of mine going forward is that each year the cost is probably going to increase and it's also going to impact a greater portion and it's probably going to be passed along to the employees which is going to indirectly impact this. Probably you would ask two biggest concerns that I would have with cost going forward it would be health care and then the retirement. There's a reason that most of the private companies will drop in pension as a job as a council but that was a no comment. Maybe you could look at some wellness incentives other things. Moving to page 35 looking at the bottom of the page the general fund finished at a deficit of $285,000 or 17 and that included a one time charge of $2.5 million received on the sale of the parking garage. Just for clarification so had that $600,000 surplus that went towards the eclipse and all that stuff then left in we could have finished in a positive. Is that my understanding? I'm going to say potentially I'd have to take a look to see if all of them are spent yes. It really wasn't a surplus when we spent all that money. So carefully it's if you know each year when we spend those funds any general fund surplus funds and we spend them outside of what was originally budgeted that does have the potential because it's revenue that came from a prior year so in the current year that has the potential to cause a deficit if you hit your expenditures revenues then anything you spent from the prior year's revenues that built up that general fund will reflect as a deficit in that current year. So now I'm sure I've confused everyone. Maybe Bud can explain that better. You could substitute instead of saying budgeted surplus you could say budgeted deficit because like Jeff said if the budget is exactly own and we all know that it's not going to be then you are going to run a deficit for the current year because you are spending money that is on the balance sheet and not on the revenue and expense side for the current year. You're spending cash in your pocket. We would never do that. And I think you see that often reflected in hospitality tax when we spend those extra funds from prior years that has the potential to show as a deficit in the current year unless you have enough growth to cover it. But the deficit in the county services plan of 3.1 million dollars that is an fire service? That is the fire service. It it started at 3.1 the fire service fund had a surplus of 643,000 and so the deficit accumulated deficit dropped to 2.5 million dollars. Fund for this year were we even or above even for this year? Or did we supplement the county this year? Or does that carry forward deficit? That is a carry forward deficit. The fund itself finished with the current year so far. Okay. So if the county wanted to make us whole and pay their full obligation to owe us 2.5 million dollars, 2.4 million dollars. I could see where you could come to that conclusion. That would be an easy conclusion. We just need to send them a bill like they do us for the jail. Jeff, send them an invoice. Would you look at page 40? I'm curious, Jeff, have you looked at their capital? So as far as their capital does it show a debt? What was the question? I was just wondering if Jeff has ever looked at counting capital. I'm just wondering how they show it. Do they show it as a debt? They do. They would not. They would show it as they are only obligated to pay whatever the set for the fee is for the year. That would be an expenditure for the team. They would not have a debt. If we budget for $20 million, that's all they're going to reflect to show them. Looking at page 40, that's the cash flow statement. And that's the lifeblood, I think, for most any business or fund. You see where the cash decreased in 2017 by approximately $40 million. Now, some of that was offset by the $27 million in purchases. But the bottom line is that the $13 million actual cash decreased in the water and sewer fund. Which page are you on, bud? Page 40. It's in the first column, water and sewer facility fund. Down at the bottom is the decrease of the $39 million that has brackets around it. Now, some of that money would go to capital expenditures, debt payment, that sort of stuff. But there was probably a net $13 million spent over what the actual cash was. And I know that going forward, your debt service for the water and sewer fund increased because I think there's an 81 million dollar bond that we know what that was spent towards. Actually, so during our rate study discussions last few years we talked about spending cash, more cash on projects and having a target cash number. So we had anticipated spending there of the cash we'd accumulated instead for the 120. I don't know the exact numbers of the breakout right now, but we would spend cash, we generally call Pego when we're talking about it. But when he's talking about it over the last study or two, we've looked at spending not just cash that was coming from operations, but additional cash that we had in the system. Don't may recall we have a cash target, so we never hit that exactly because every year there's fluctuations between revenue and expenditures, but we did anticipate we'd spend cash. And when we're spending that cash that's less a debt but we're sure. Okay? Looking at on page 96, and this is a couple statements. Gaspi has issued one of the brain of your attention. One of them deals with OPEB and I'm not going to get into the technical side of that because it's a bear but it is similar to page 96 when to get the retirement of the liability on the city's balance sheet it requires a calculation and a study. And I think it's safe to say that it's one of the things that contributed to some of Miss Alonzo's health problems is trying to figure out how to calculate the entry because it's not an easy calculation. Well now the city is responsible because Gaspi has brought OPEB plans into that same discussion. And OPEB is going to be very similar to the retirement and to put it in perspective when the retirement standard was adopted it went from like a one page note disclosure to an eight page note disclosure. So looking at the same thing with the city's OPEB plan and it's going to require additional complexities and more capturing information and so looking at that but saving the best for last and I'm glad Mr. Anderson is still here because I loved it when they used the term street lights at least Gaspi Statement 87 entitled what this is going to do and it is driving the corporate world or is that currently if the city the city does rent in 1225 later on a five year lease from maybe first citizens out there. When the rent payment is made each month that amount expense say it's a thousand dollars in rent amount debit rent expense four thousand dollars in cash for the four thousand dollars and you go on your merry way and now when the city executes that five year lease you have to determine the cumulative amount of payment and at the inception of the lease say it's a hundred and twenty thousand dollars over a five year lease the city would debit through its balance sheet a light be used asset for a hundred and twenty thousand dollars and would have a liability in its balance sheet of a life amount. It is basically saying we're financing that five year lease and each month you would recognize a portion of that white lease asset probably be close to the current rent that you're paying. So from a financial statement P&L standpoint impact it won't be much different. The kicker is over but you know Robert knows whether or dead it goes on the left or the white and he's got those lease assets and they fall under this standard we just try to everything that's applicable and you can't wait until too much before the end of the year that this statement goes into effect which goes into effect two days after Miss Alonzo whatever that day may be that's in eleven years you look at it and say we didn't think about those things we didn't know about the hard part is going to be to look at everything you're talking about postage machines basically any lease that is more than marketing will fall under this standard and it is not necessarily it is not as complex to implement as the OPEV but it is a lot of time gathering up on telephone if you are renting them yes it's a five year lease the public works is leasing a renting a street basically during the period of the lease you've got a lack of a better term but a more commonly known a depreciable asset and it's similar to tracking city-owned profit and recognizing depreciation over the life of that and it's causing a major expense to corporate America to go in as far as just being able to identify all the things that they release and where is a center of the positive and who keeps that and how do you have been I think it's going to be a bad it is gas being its and so but on here you have effective December of 29 this would be beginning after 19 so the year city's July 1st 2020 I'm telling you now I can say I told you so when you waited until the day before start preparing for it because it's on the records now in posterity I mean it's going to take some time to implement I think how do you go about wracking and getting the information moving along age 110 we'll move into the second and this I think actually decided on before the meeting y'all just helped out with a couple of points there is you will see looking across in the various columns the fourth column Parks and Recreation Fund on age 110 come down to the bottom of the page there's 32 and a half thousand dollars in brackets that for 2017 your Parks and Recs Pamp operated at a deficit of 32,000 dollars and they started the year with accumulated deficit of 64,000 so this deficit has been running for a couple of years it is not a lot of money for the city except we all were talking about making sure that you recover the cost and these fees those are two different buckets as we were talking about we did scale up significantly the number of kids participating and participating for the free so you bet in mind I'm not sure how that's reflected in the books but we have potentially given up the kids participating in programs yeah, yeah, I mean the kids planned on types of sports probably still consistent but that's important to know, thank you on page 115 this is the various internal service funds they all operated at a deficit 2017 and the risk management fund which includes the OPEB the expense is about $500,000 deficit I know there has been some talk about whether the city would like to establish their trust fund for the OPEB and I'm not going to get into the discussion of whether you should or you shouldn't the reporting requirements the new standard for a trust fund is a lot more involved would be the cost of administering that trust with the closures would be more there are those that think you will see a decrease in the amount of the trust fund the proverbial date whether they're right or not remains to be seen at the end of the day I don't think the city still has the confidence you don't have the ability to invest the funds if we keep it internal so you're losing whatever opportunity you have to earn income off of that investment fund that is it is not you're all correct because there is no legally there is no money set aside it also impacts what degree I don't know but I feel certain that for some degree that having that money available impacts the bond because that money not saying that it would be but if the push came to shove it could be used if anything it could be used an existing trust fund that is geared towards making those disclosures for all of the members of the trust fund wouldn't that be a better way to go ask Mr. Alonzo about the disclosures on the retirement system that would it would be the equivalent I mean it's would still be more it's more brutal it's not advocating for it or against it I'm just saying that the record keeping increase with a trust fund a non-trust fund to conclude what I wanted to discuss and I shall have specific questions more questions for Bud I look forward to doing that reading it's going to be fun you're going to come back for us a supplemental questions or just the pages and page numbers I can't remember how we did it last year I think set page numbers and put the questions on it and we'll respond back to all those it's my nerve I don't have a hyphen and Missy's name is transposed the first part I don't have a hyphen next page I think you got Hurricane Mansfield spelled wrong too well since I'm dyslexic I'm not going to ping y'all on spelling but I do have several questions hey blind squirrel gets a nut every once in a while maybe the first time I corrected anybody on it thank you Bud we'll be in touch starting with page 29 through 96 Mr. Jacob so number three on our agenda is the boiled water notification process Mr. Joey Jacob I thought it said boiled peanuts don't touch her stuff don't touch her stuff Erica you can get the ruler out okay so today I'm really coming just to update on full water notification process some recent activities we had some boiled water notifications that went out and there may be some confusion how we do it why we do it so really what I'm just going to start with what is a boiled water advisory what is a boiled water notice and why do we send them out so a boiled water advisory is really just and to advise that there is a potential for contamination to be in the system boiled water notice is we issue those when it is confirmed we've done testing and we've confirmed that there is contamination I don't know I could tell you when we've done a boiled water notice but we do a number of boiled water advisories and the main reason we do boiled water advisories is for water main breaks or activities where we have to cut height we reduce the pressure in our system that affects pressure in the system affects pressure to the customers and water main breaks there's multiple reasons why we have main breaks it could be a contractor hitting our line it could be it could be just the age infrastructure recently the temperature fluctuation that we've had can lead to boiled water to water line breaks pressure fluctuations we may have surges in the system just operation of a hydrant improperly opening and closing the hydrant can cause pressure fluctuations that can cause water line breaks so there's a number of things that can cause them and when we do have them we reduce the pressure in the system below 20 pounds of pressure for a significant for any length of time and it affects a customer service and by precaution we put out with the boiled water advisories it doesn't mean every time we have a water line break we do a boiled water advisories it's got to get to the point that it affects the pressure in the system it affects the customer and it's a potential for contamination that's just a little education why we do it other reasons we would do it is if we have a complication in the treatment process at our plants we would have to do a boiled water advisory for that or if we have a significant loss of pressure or a loss of pressure a significant part of our system like during the flood we had a number of water line breaks and we had a pressure reduction no pressure in some areas in our system so as a precaution we did a boiled water advisory we did the required testing because all tests came back good we never had to do a boiled water notice so the repeal process we do a boiled water advisory we make the repair lab goes out pull samples we run a flushing point lab goes out pull samples it takes about 18 hours to get the samples back so it's about a 24 hour process for us to pull samples get samples and repeal the notice third party process we do all our sampling the DHEC certified lab that's right our water plant has a DHEC certified lab so we're able to do all of our sampling internally it's about a 24 hour process just to collect the samples and turn them around so that's typically why it takes that long for us to repeal an advisory and it's very rare that we get contamination come back or bacteria tests that are total cold form or anything that comes back that requires us to extend that advisory but we do sample do required sampling and we send out proper notifications that's just a little education of what an advisory and notice what the repeal is so the notification process all bullwater advisories we have a standard notification process that includes DHEC our customer care all employees we send out an email that includes all city employees we have contacts for school districts we have contacts for pounds you know town of our stakers our contacts with those towns we contact counties, Richland County Lexington County and we include local media in that so that's all the major local media stations including the state newspaper and even radio W-E-O-C I believe so all water line bullwater advisories include those when we have a small area less than 25 affected residential customers not including a business or a school or a restaurant we can do door hangers so if it's a small break or area that a break that affects a small area we'll do door hangers a larger area we also include Nixle and Everbridge we utilize Nixle still because we still have some folks that are signed up to receive the Nixle notification but the main reason we use it is it pushes it to our Twitter account and it pushes it to our Facebook account and that's probably where we hit most people seeing it so that's one of the main reasons we continue to use Nixle in the notification process Everbridge is what 911 uses we've been using that for a couple years now Everbridge allows us to reach an emergency contact database but it really hits folks who don't have time to go in and sign up Nixle and Everbridge you go in and take the time to go in and sign up there's a number of things that you can get notified for under Everbridge I'd recommend if you haven't done that to do that but water and sewer notifications is one of those things under Everbridge Joey how do you sign up for Everbridge glad you asked and then we can go into that but go back and I get from folks is why don't we use Reverse 911 that is the Everbridge that is Everbridge but they have to sign up so it's not automatic you just have to sign up to be on the list and even Everbridge and I can't tell you what database they get contact information from it comes through the county through the Reverse 911 process I'm not sure how they build that database but if they're in that database they'll be contacted but they won't have home phones anymore so and that's what's going to be in their database so my recommendation is to go on it takes just a few minutes to go online and this is the process here there's links on several parts of our website where you can go in and sign up it takes just a few minutes and you can have multiple locations too with Everbridge you can give it multiple addresses to notify you so you want to have an address for your home an address for your school or your business you can enter all those addresses in there and if something happens within that area it will contact you so all this information is on our website I believe there's a link from our customer care there's a link from our Bullwater Advisory part of our website and I believe there's also with 911 they have some notification in there as well and my last slide here is just for more information we do have a specific site on our Utilities and Engineering website Columbia Water website that talks about bullwater advisories it includes links to to DHEC if you get a bullwater advisory what do you do tells you how long the bullwater the different parts of that process but it also has links to all past bullwater advisories and all past bullwater repeals so there's a couple things on our website that can give you a little bit more information to the phone and everybody was just very upset about the fact that calling the city wasn't helpful so have we fixed that and made sure that they're trained and get the information that's accurate and they're giving it out in the payment there has been training what customer care gets is they get the email that basically gives the basic outline of why we have a bullwater advisory and whether or not it's in effect has been so it depends on you know they have been trained to respond to that but they're not going to have the detailed information that the guys in the field may have so they're going to be limited on what type of questions they can answer but they can provide if they're trained to give a proper basic response but depending on the question they may not have that sir customer care last week when I got those calls we may have there may have been some miscommunication I was told about one person that answered if not held in exactly whether the notice went out advisory went out and so that was some frustration but I think I would suggest that we kind of look at some other way of communicating with folks usually they go out around well on a television seven o'clock television but most of these folks that calling me did not they don't watch television at a set period of time but that's a gap I think and our notification regiment that we might want to take a look at and in this case there were two neighborhoods impacted because of that one break so I know that we've got within our network a number of people who communicate within the neighborhood neighborhood presidents and folks like that they kind of rely on they can touch folks individually better than we can I would hope that we might be able to make that part of our communication I think that would help none of them what they were saying was I believe you kind of gave an explanation as to what happened but they did not hear anything none of them were relying on notification to go ahead and boil your water to boil water I don't know what the breakdown was other than what you had explained Yes sir, and Nixle was down during that time Nixle was down I think it was for about a week the next day it did go back up so that would have touched the social media so folks who do have social media and are signed up to get notifications from the city of Columbia would have received it through the years we've tried to look for ways to improve and I think we will continue to do that and we've talked about with AMI project having this one central location to be notified for the water bill to be able to look up your water bill look at your media reading things like that to be able to tie this notification to that and that most customers will take advantage of an app or something that they can carry around with them but they will get that instant notification so through the years we've looked at and we'll continue to look at better ways to notify maybe that we can give these community presidents homeowner association presidents maybe have a separate email for them that means they'll get every one of them but it may help provide notifications in this case that one pocket Spanish acres they should be elderly so that is a challenge but they have their grapevine they were communicating amongst themselves no water why didn't we get a notice when the water is still brown and the last one I got indicated that water came back to them about 10 o'clock and I know that varies based on the start up it based on the time it takes to fix it and we slowly restore pressure yeah so I'm thinking that in an area like that somehow keep people to fight whether it's gotta be at least that's just a little gap that could really good point about we should make sure we do old hand holding with the neighborhood association president or leaders making sure they get signed up for these services then they would get everything with them and that would allow a great finding but people are consuming views differently now the citizens app that we're looking to in the process of developing to be a smarter city you can push notifications with that phone it also scrolls across our website I hear you about making sure we're closing the circle on customer care folks that they know that they didn't email we'll talk with those folks if you look for that we could continue to accentuate an element of education particularly for our communities there are water issues during that talk about one during the day where there is an issue they want to talk about but they only talk about it with them and I think if we continue the process of reeducating reeducating I think this is going to beat your idea that's it we don't know it thank you man just quick for the everbridge it says what type of alerts what other alerts does everbridge do this gathers just the right time and then while Kim is coming up just since you mentioned it where are we on AMR we have completed our RFQ we have six submittals for the RFQ it basically means they're qualified to submit a proposal we're preparing the proposal right now we're going through the last checks with our consultant we're ready to get it on the road I'd love to say next week but I'd have to verify that that proposal is on the pricing June-July is what we're anticipating once we approve a contract you'll start seeing them switching out once we approve the contract it'll be about six months before we start seeing them and then that's right and AMI are we going to be engaging these local plumbers like we said we've got a bunch of local plumbers on the proposal we'll be bringing the contract the communication network or some work that we're changing out the contract depends on the vendor that's selected again doesn't it no sir I can use a hundred of those I'm very excited yes Mr. Bavine the Everbridge Alerts that would be for public safety of course and also public health and public safety of course water boilers would be included in that and we are able to use the emergency database for that it could be all of the landline numbers in Britson County other alerts or notifications would be community events public relations special events that any department would have to send out and that would only go to those that have opted in and signed up for those type of notifications so if I go to Clemesse.net and I want a citizen alert today and I want to click on what alert does it allow me is it just a little water right now and those are coming or are all those up there for me to opt into the alert and now the public safety and the water boilers would not be optional if it's an emergency situation Mr. Duvall yes sir I noticed there are several contracts on the tonight's concern agenda to fix broken water is that going to clean up the back lawn where are we on the list we're not through the list yet I know that I don't know if I can give you we've had since January we've had over 400 I will tell you that I can't give you an exact account where we are in the list right now but we are going through the list we've had what's on the contract tonight is we've had to recruit local contractors to help us we quickly ran through our budget this year just in that time frame local contractors we had mostly there helping us with the restoration but the ones on the agenda tonight are actually we have some that could do some pipe repair as well we have enough plates yeah we have I get the calls from plates about the plates they don't know where those plates are they leave them out there until they need one and they send a truck out go find us an 8 by 10 plate she explained it to them but I think at least we covered we don't have the folks that won't have to pay for that I want them to put an RFID identifier on each one of those plates that we'll know in real time where they are I know one thing that works well for those who pay attention to it when they put a plate down that they do use an asphalt to kind of soften it we actually in our our management meeting this morning we talked about ways to not even use an asphalt the rubber plate locks I tell folks I've lost two tires nobody in the city knows part of the progress gotta watch how you say that okay if you have any questions tonight we'd be happy to answer thanks man okay next item is executive session absolutely now I'm going to add something I thought to you all about which one is it which one is it which one is it which one is it kind of actually I think we'll buy it we can go into seminar eight but let's put some seventh it's just mayor making motion we're going to executive session for discussions and negotiations to propose concatral arrangements pursuant to seventy eight two bullsstraight development all richness sewer agreement bond counsel I'll both of them are moved. Yes, they're both. Right. Both of them are moved? Yes. Okay. Receipt of legal advice relating to a pending threat or potential claim, 70A, who I suppose, Kato as personal representative of the state of Ritchie, Kato versus city of Columbia, Cumberland versus city of Columbia, receipt of legal advice which relates to a matter covered by attorney client privilege pursuant to 70A2, boards and commissions, H-tax, discussion of matters relating to proposed location and expansion of services to encourage location or expansion of industries or other businesses pursuant to 70A2, affordable housing initiative. Second. Any discussion? Seeing none, I'll move to the next question. Here. Aye. Thank you.