 New study shows that taurine may be the key to longevity. I actually did a study on multiple animal models and found that taurine concentration was a predictor of aging. So they increased taurine concentrations in animals like rats and some worms and some other animal models. And they found that the lifespans increased by 10 to 12%. What is taurine? It's an amino acid. It's known as a conditionally essential amino acid, meaning your body can produce taurine. But under times of stress or illness, you probably need to consume more of it. So what's the key takeaway here? Should you just supplement with taurine? No. You know where you get a lot of taurine? Protein. Really, what the study is showing is that you probably need more protein as you age. And this totally corresponds with studies on humans. As humans get older, they do better with higher protein diet. So what's the, again, the takeaway? You want to live longer, eat more protein. Is this a new study? New study for taurine. So this will be interesting. Has our friend Lane got ahold of it yet? No. So it'll be interesting to see how Lane talks about it, because this is one of those ones that you could totally try and shit on it because of it, one, being done in animal. And then two, your point about protein. I hope that he highlights that's probably the key fact here. That's what it is. Like they'll do studies on like branching amino acids, arginine, proline, whatever, all these amino acids show all these benefits. But if you get a good amount of protein, what would be considered optimal for muscle building, you're getting a lot of all the amino acids. So that's what they're missing. So really, what these animal models is like, if these animals ate more protein, they'd get the taurine. And again, that corresponds with the data on humans, where they find that as humans get older, having higher protein intake, especially when you combine it with strength training. I want to add that. You combine it with strength training. It's as close as you can get to the fountain of youth. So what's the motivation to study something like taurine by itself like that? Because they identify what amino acid, they know what different amino acids do in the body. And amino acid taurine is important for energy production. It's an energy drinks. You know, like Red Bull, Red Bull's got taurine in it. It's an interesting amino acid. It's not technically an essential amino acid because your body can make it. But when you're stressed or sick, you can deplete yourself very quickly. So they call it a conditionally essential amino acid. But, you know, I mean, how many grams of taurine is in, you know, 30 grams of whey protein, right? Like, plenty, like more than you'll get from just supplementing with taurine. Now, was that the class, like the energy drink class? Because that wasn't a thing for us growing up. But then it became a thing. And it was like, they have like B vitamins, taurine, and like they've just smashed all these vitamins in there and like called it an energy drink. Well, I think that the classic move there was just that caffeine is the main energy driver. And then the selling point is that, oh, it has creatine. Oh, it has vitamin B. Oh, it has KD. It has all these other things that they throw in it to make it more superior than the other caffeine drink. Yeah, B vitamin. But really at the end of the day, everybody who compares all of these energy drinks, which is better and stuff like that, it's really the dose of caffeine is really what's making the biggest difference as far as what you feel. And then all the other stuff is just a bunch of filler bullshit to make you sound or sound like yours is better or taste better. Make your pee brighter. Yeah. Well, so B vitamins have been touted for a long time for energy, but really it's if you're deficient, then it makes a huge difference. Some people have a tough time absorbing like B12 because they have gut issues. So you give somebody, or I think there's some genetic mutations in some people too, or some genetic variances I should say, in people where they just don't absorb a lot of B. You give them a shot of vitamin B12. It's life changing. I had a client like that. Who had chronic fatigue, couldn't figure out what happened. Worked with functional medicine practitioner. Was supplementing with B12. It just wasn't absorbing. So the functional medicine practitioner was like, do a shot of B12 once every, I don't remember what was three, four days. And she's like, bro, she's like, I took, I did the shot. And she's like, hours later, I felt like a new person. This is why we talk about, you know, when it comes to the supplement game, nothing is more impactful than supplementing something that you're deficient in. Yeah. I mean, I remember when we first got the mellow product from Ned and the magnesium, it was like- Because you needed it. Holy shit. And that's why too, it's like, so why some people are like, oh, it's not that big of a deal. I didn't know anything. Well, maybe you're not deficient in that, idiot. You know what I'm saying? And then somebody who does thinks it's amazing. It's like, well, yeah, because now you're getting what you need, you know. That's why I think in the future, and you're starting to see this a little bit, but I think you're gonna see more in the future that like whey protein, okay, which is used to be just for body builders. Now it's making its way into somewhat health and wellness. I think that's going to be a longevity supplement. Cause you see this, you see that as people get older, their requirements for protein go up and with strength training, it really does make a significant improvement on quality of life and on aging. And again, protein is chains of whey, you know, a gram of whey protein is all the amino acids. It's a complete protein, meaning it has all the amino acids and it has high amounts of all of the amino acids you hear about, the branch amino acids, glutamine, which is the most abundant amino acid in muscle, taurine, which we just talked about. So whey protein, like, give yourself, you know, make sure you hit your protein targets with food. And if you can't, you know, like get yourself a good whey protein. A legion's got a great one. We work with them. Cover your bases with that. Yeah, remind me again, because legion specifically, because I believe it's stavia that they sweeten it with, right? Instead of like a- They don't use artificial sweetener. It's not artificial sweetener, but also too, don't they have like enzymes and a digestible enzyme? Well, they use, I know the one thing about legion that I like is it's whey protein isolate. So it's like just protein. Yeah. It's very easily digestible. It's so much better, like, for that reason. Unless you can't eat dairy, right? Do you know what else Mike carries that I didn't know that he carried is the, which I love for, because I've mixed a lot of like whey like in food, like if I'm making pancakes or waffles or back before we had creatures of habit, I'd mix it in my oatmeal and like finding a good whey protein, like the flavor that mixed with, he has the flavorless whey. And not a lot of companies carry also a- He has all kinds of crazy flavors that all are amazing, but then he has a flavor- I bet nobody buys that though. Okay, well, let me sell it to you. So if you mix whey protein in pancakes, waffles, oatmeal- Oh, there you go. In food- To cook with? Yes, it is the best to get flavorless whey protein. If you're gonna drink it, yeah. If you're a person who shakes it up with water or almond milk or whatever your thing is and then drinks it, well, then yeah, get your fruity pebble flavor, caramel, salted crunch, whatever. But I- They have salty caramel. They do, it's bomb. It is good. I just had that. I thought you just made that up. No, no, it's totally a real flavor. He's got the fruity pebble one too. That's a real flavor, right, bro? Yes, he's got a real flavor. It's like fruity pebble or fruity cereal. Fruity cereal is the name of his, and it's bomb. But I tend to mix whey protein in food. I mean, we make homemade cookies that way. We do pancakes that way. We do waffles that way. Like I said, we used to do the oatmeal that way. So if you wanna do that, the best is to do a flavorless. So it doesn't change the flavor of the food that you're already currently eating. What do you see there, Doug? They have all types of interesting flavors. Cocoa cereal, apple pie, banana bread, Dutch chocolate birthday cake, chocolate peanut butter, cookies and cream, French vanilla, fruity cereal, honey cereal, mocha cappuccino, pumpkin pie, salted caramel. Fruity cereal tastes like after you've had fruity pebbles and the milk, the milk at the bottom. What? Yes, it does taste like. I remember that as a kid. Yeah, I know. That's why it was such a, like when I had it, I was like, oh my God, that brought me back to China. Do you know what I did once? I went to Italy when I was 12, and my cousin, I mean, I'd never tried this before. So he would do cocoa, what was it? Cocoa Krispies or whatever, the chocolate. Cocoa Krispies, milk? Oh, this is the best. Oh, no, no, no. He used chocolate milk with Cocoa Krispies. That's rich. That's overkill. Yeah, he has diabetes now, but. Oh, wow. That was back then. It's like when I used to make nachos out of nacho burritos. It's like overkill. Get that sugar foot. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, but he used to do that. Didn't work out so well for him. He doesn't have diabetes. That was a terrible joke. But he's. I thought he'd see it. That's why I fell back for laughing. I know, I know, that's terrible. But no, he used to do that. He'd buy chocolate milk and he'd mix it in there. I'm gonna be like, as a 12 year old, oh, you could combine everything. You know what else he used to do? Then I went later on when I was 19. So at this point, he's in college and he goes, you ever have super espresso? I'm like, what? Cause you know, in college you gotta stay up and whatever. So they would make espresso. Then they would use the espresso as the water for another espresso. So you'd have like. Oh my God. Yeah, dude. Like super caffeine. That's gotta be like chewing on like the coffee bean. That's what it's gonna taste like. Look at Doug. Doug likes, he's such an espresso aficionado. I just killed him right now. Yeah. Are you consistently using your, you know, million dollar espresso machine you have? Not a million. I use it every day. You do? Yeah. Every day you use it. You push a button and it picks the organic beans in Columbia for you, brings them. Yeah, roast them, it's great. It's gorgeous, you know what I mean? Salt, from, and everything. I have a $90 espresso machine at home, do you know that? Yeah. I bought it on Amazon. That's not really an espresso machine. It's a, listen, I'm Italian. I can tell you what I want about it. You know Doug's is so good, is that remember I don't know if I brought it up on the show or not when, and this was like, I think it was before playoffs when Jimmy Butler, which by the way, made it all the way to the heat, made it all the way to the end, right? And he was flying on his private jet with his espresso machine, and it was the same espresso machine. The same one that Doug has? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think I showed you that. Yeah, I saw that. Yeah, yeah, you saw that. You had the exact same one as I have. It's all chrome looking, right? It's chrome, it's black and chrome, this one. Oh, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, you know, he brought that with him. Yes, he's flying on his, he gets off the plane, and I don't remember what city they're in, playing another team, obviously, and he is carrying an espresso machine on. No, I'm not that serious. And I remember I was looking at it and explaining how ridiculous it was, and Doug's like, that's the same espresso machine I have. But also I understand. Yeah, and then I was like, now I know that thing must be that good if you got something. You know what it reminds me of is Spaceballs, remember when like, he had to grab this? Well, no, he had to grab the suitcase and in her suitcase it was this huge hairdryer. Oh yeah, industrial spring. He ran this thing. What a great movie. Come on. What a great movie. Doug, do you have a particular water that you use for espresso? I mean, I have reverse osmosis water, I guess. You know that makes a big difference too. Okay, so my dad is very specific. Oh, okay. He uses crystal geyser water and he preaches the whole family about this. Yeah, it makes a huge difference. Oh, my dad, no, you have to use crystal guide. Did you make a crystal guide? No, for the longest time I was making coffee from tap water and I could not figure out why my coffee was not tasty. Because I had moved to a new house. I was boss. It was all for it. And then, you know, it was just tap water. Well, my thought was, you're boiling it. So I'm like, anything that's bad, you're going to boil off. So I'm thinking it's not bad, but it changed the way the coffee tastes. Yeah, it's the murals. You know, the thing is with the espresso machine, you can't have a high mineral water, otherwise it will get a lot of calcification on the interior. In the machine. And so there's actually test strips you need to use to make sure your water's not too hard. And so I do that. However, having minerals may actually improve the taste of the coffee. And here's a trick I've heard and I've tried, is if you get like crappy coffee, you take a pinch of salt and you drop it into the coffee and it will improve the taste of your coffee. What? Yeah. A little bit of salt. I just learned something crazy. Yeah, try it out. Try the crystal guide. It makes sense. I'll try it. My dad's all about it. Like literally won't stop talking about it. OK. Yeah, we have. That's what we, so when we found it was a tap water, we used to, because we always have bottled crystal geyser water at our house. So that's what you use. Yeah, yeah. And it made a huge difference. As soon as we switched over to that, I was like, oh my God, this whole time I thought there was something wrong with our coffee, because it was like the same coffee I was getting forever. And I couldn't figure out why it was bad. And then Katrina started pouring the crystal geyser water in there and it was like, oh shit. That's awesome. Yeah, that's awesome. Today's program giveaway is mapped strong. Here's how you can win. Leave a comment below this video in the first 24 hours that we drop it. Subscribe to this channel and turn on notifications. If you win, we'll let you know in the comment section. Now we're also running a sale right now on some workout programs. Maps cardio is 50% off. The shredded summer bundle of programs is 50% off. And the bikini bundle is 50% off. So those are all half off. If you're interested in any of them or all of them, just click on the link at the top of the description below. All right, back to the show. Dude, I got to talk about, I've already brought him up probably three different times. Justin now is going down the rabbit hole of Jonathan Peijiao. I think you say anything? I think it's how you say it. I love this guy. Dude, I knew you would go crazy. I wish he was around, man, when I was in just sitting the back of the church and then I would ask these really deep esoteric questions to pastors and nobody had good answers for me ever and could explain the why in terms of like, yeah, I get like, you know, sort of the surface of a lot of these parables and a lot of these things. But like, he just explains it on a level it's just so distinctively like, I understand what he's talking about. He gives this analogy. I've sent it to 15 different people. He gives this analogy of the value of symbolism and rituals and how they create and cause integration in our behaviors and what we do. And he says, there's a period of time when you don't know why you're doing what you're doing, but you do it anyway because you're supposed to. But then you have an awakening and he uses the best example of ever in my entire life. Karate Kid. Mr. Miyagi. Mr. Miyagi telling Karate Kid, you know, what's his name? Waxar. Yeah, do all these things. Wax the car, paint the fence, do all these different things. Sand the fraud. He has no idea what he's doing. And he says in this video clip, he says, because you're too stupid to know. So just trust me and do it. And eventually all will be revealed. And he goes, this is the value that we've this is the value of symbolism and ritual. And because it's been with us for so long, we forgot. So we throw it all away because we don't need that. We throw it away. And so he says we're lost because of that. That's funny. Isn't that crazy? No, it isn't. The Karate Kid thing isn't great because it's like, we just Easy example. Yeah, because we should, we'll be shitting on that right now. Like, oh, painting the fence. How's that going to help me with fighting? Just do chores for you. And you know, and you just see it for like, it's immediate, you know, surface kind of value instead of going through the process. And like, that's where you learn everything. Yeah. And I mean, how many times have you done that in your life where you look back and go, oh, that's, I'm so glad I went through all that. Otherwise I wouldn't be able to do this thing right here. Yeah. But while you're going through it, you're like, I wish I wasn't doing this. This sucks. No, I mean, it's so many parallels to that, the fitness and like your journeyman story. Oh, that's just, it all ties in though. I mean, like it's so hard to articulate to somebody like the why of like, especially doing something that's difficult like that, you know, going through and also trusting. We say trust the process all the time. And that's sort of like a sort of catchphrase we have. But really it's just like having to step in and have that faith in what you're doing that it's going to end up in a better result. And you can't possibly know now because like he said, like Daniel said, you're too stupid to know right now. So you just have to have faith and do it, you know, which is great. All right. So this is not timely because this already happened by the time this airs. But I want to bring up what happened at the White House where they had the pride, you know, was it like a march or parade and they had the the was it a protest or was it just a march and stuff? No, they were there to celebrate. They hung up the, you know, the rainbow flag and everything. And they had a transgender, you know, an activist or person, you know, go topless in front of the White House. By the way, the White House came out and said, you know, this is old news now, but they came out and basically said, you are banned from coming back or whatever. The beginning of the backlash, I think this is the beginning of the like, OK, this is going too far. You guys are this isn't helping anybody type of deal. But the whole here's what really makes me upset about all this. It isn't all that politicians are politicians. They're always going to pander. They're all bullshit. They're all fake. They only say what they say because they know their support and they're going to get voted in. And if it's not that, then if there is no support, nobody's got a spine. It's just the way it is. OK. And I accept that. OK. I don't bottom line. But here's what a noise of shit out of me. They in in the White House or these these these big, you know, capital buildings, they hang the American flag and then they put the rainbow flag or whatever. Here's why that a noise of shit on me, because the American flag is all inclusive. It's the most fucking inclusive flag in the world. That's it. That's all you need. That's it. That means if you're gay, trans, straight, black, white, whatever, that flag is for everybody is together. And the idea of liberty, the idea that, you know, all, you know, quote unquote, men were created equal that that right there. And although it hasn't been expressed perfectly in the past, that's what's driven us to be leaders in the world for all of these different things. We need to move away from like what's happened. What's been happening now for the last decade or so is this division, division, division, division. We're going the wrong direction. Yeah. Like that flag and our anthem and this country, that represents everybody. Immigrants, men, women, children, you, you know, that's it. We don't have to agree with each other, but we're all protected the same way. And that's that. Yeah, everybody's people have different experiences, but we got to stop this like the strange dividing that's happened when backwards. That's that's that's my rant. Do you think that a lot of this stuff is really like the root of it is coming from our, our population? Or do you think a lot of it really is driven by politicians and media to, to divide and to conquer and to separate? Like, I don't like, I don't, I don't run into a lot of these people down. It's not. Yeah, a lot of these, a lot of this radical stuff that we see on both the left and the right that gets highlighted on Fox or CNN or on your, your whatever channel that you follow on social media. I just don't see a lot of that in real life. I just don't see a lot of that, that radical behavior in real life. I feel like that gets highlighted to intentionally cause. Yeah, exactly. It gets highlighted to, to use it to divide us more. And I wonder that. Okay. And I know you're, you're bringing this up because it's like, Oh, finally, are we finally to see this like backlash and pushback from this? I mean, the, the, the, the, I don't know if it's a realist or pessimistic attitude about it. I just, we'll just find something else. We'll just find something else to, to divide us and separate until people wake the fuck up. Okay. And really start to piece this together. It's like, you know, who knows what it'll be next, but this just seemed like it's the easiest way to divide it. Here's my fear. My, cause here's what happens. There's a, there's a, if a movement starts to gain steam, it gets identified by politicians or by media and it becomes exploited. It gets infiltrated. Okay. Because it gets used like a tool. Yeah. It becomes wielded like a weapon. So here's my fear. Right now what we're seeing is what seems to be like this backlash against this, the extreme, some of the extreme components of the LGBT community. Okay. We saw this with Target. We saw us with, you know, Bud Riser going a little too far or whatever. Now, you know, topless transgender people in the White House. Now the White House finally came out and said, you are banned from coming back. What I'm afraid of is the backlash is going to get infiltrated by people who are now not going to say things like, Hey man, stop, you know, stop doing these shows in front of the kids where you have to make it or whatever. Like that's inappropriate. Now what are they going to start to do is say, Hey, we need to ban gay marriage again. Let's go backwards. Right. That's what I'm afraid of. I'm afraid it's going to fuel. It's, you can already see some signs of that. Yes. Not good. Yeah. So that's why I mean, we got exactly what you said, Adam, we need to be very careful because it gets exploited, exploited either way. And there's, there's, I guess, negative and evil on either side. Yeah. And we need to be very careful. Even if we agree with some of the sentiment, we got to make sure we stay awake and say, wait a minute, hold on. I don't support going that like you're going way too hard. Well, and there's again, to your point of like media and what they choose to kind of like hand pick out out there in the environment is like there's groups out there that are like, you know, gays against groomers is a good example of that. It's just like people that are just like, you know, I don't, I don't see where this is appropriate. You know, if, if this is a very sexual presentation and, and like we don't, we don't subscribe to that. Like we're, we're trying to live our lives to say everybody else. And like this is not something like we're, we're putting all of our emphasis towards and doesn't represent us well. And so it's like, you know, they're, unfortunately, we're in this weird climate where everybody has to like profess their values, profess their belief system, profess everything. Otherwise, it's going to get manipulated and turn into something else. Yeah. And yeah, I think that, I think what we're experiencing is the, the last, you know, gasping or grasping for air or dear, your dying breaths of legacy media. Probably. I think it's on its way out. Yeah, they're going more and more crazy. It feels the most. They can't die soon enough. And it, but it's going to, and it is. Everything is showing, is pointing in that direction that it's in, I mean, you have the, the Tucker Carlson's who are leaving the Fox channel. Like you're seeing more and more of these big names that actually carry most of the weight with this legacy, legacy media are now leaving and it's only a matter of time before everybody just agrees that like it all is trash. Yeah. Fox, CNN, all, if it's on the new, I don't believe it if it's on the new. It's, we're getting real close to, if it's on the new, if you tell me now, like honestly, that's actually how I feel like I already filter information. So if someone tells me something, I'm like, Oh, where did you get that? Oh, I saw it on CNN or Fox, like I automatically. Okay, I'm gonna go over here. Yeah. Like that's, to me, it hasn't been confirmed yet. If you, if you heard on the news, to me, it's not confirmed now. Well, here comes a turd in the punch bowl. Okay, because we're getting to a point soon, very soon, where AI is going to get so good that you're not going to be able to tell what is real and what is fake and what people are going to beg for. People are going to beg for arbitrators of real, of authenticity. They're going to beg, please give us some kind of a regulation certification that shows us that this is real because we can't tell anyone. So this is where it's going to give more power to, to smoke, to less people, not, not less. Yeah. So I don't know. I feel more and more people, I mean, how many people do you guys know, listen to the show that claim, and you've heard this that say that they get their news from us, opposed to watching the news because we're, they've built a relationship and a trust with us that the way we're going, that their values and morals align with ours, so that we are going to filter whatever is being put out there before we just put it out, before we just. Look at the numbers. Look at the numbers of like Joe Rogan or like some of these big shows that are just like more free speech, free thinking type of shows. Like they get all, they get so many more subscribers, so many more views, but like the legacy me doesn't want to highlight that. So let me, okay, so fast forward again. Let's say for some reason we become this big voice and we, they want someone on the other side or whatever wants to attack us and they can create fake images or videos of us doing things that we didn't do. And now we have to go out and how are we going to combat that? People are going to beg for arbitrators of authenticity and that's going to give more power to less people. They're going to beg the government. We need a seal of authenticity because we can't trust anything. So it's just going to do this. So yes and no, right? So initially yes, right? That's probably what's going to happen and it'll be like that, but then again. I'm hoping the market. There's going to be so much distrust. Okay, let's let's, let's not even pretend we're this massive voice. We're the same size, okay? Let's say it's about a million people or whatever that pay attention to us that trust us and then fast forward like you were saying, maybe initially there's this like growing pains of like people learning that like this shit that people start to do to, I mean, Candace Owens is going through it right now. She just got pulled off of her YouTube channel. It's like they're targeting her, doesn't even know why. It's like, so that's, it's already happening what you're saying, okay? That and they're, and they're putting out disinformation about her in order to get to cancel her and stuff. Pretty soon here, the people that are loyal to you and believe it, they're going to believe what you have to say over what AI and everything else to put out. Yeah, but what if it can make you say what they want? And it looks the same. So what I'm saying is people are going to beg for a way to know, they're going to beg for someone to arbitrate it. That are, that are going to be out there like voicing our voices and saying things that they like. Sure, there'll have to be, there'll be like security measures around platforms like let's say Spotify or YouTube like, so the only way you get to hear information from us. So if it didn't come from our, maybe the platforms themselves. That's right, exactly. And there'll be value in being a platform that offers that. That's a great, that's a great point. So that's a market response. That's right. You come over to Spotify and what we guarantee is that if it comes from Spotify, it came from that voice. Yes. And so we have put up, we have built. My fear is just going to be a bunch of like, it could be a bunch of Adam Salz and Justin's out there. It's not us. They're like, Oh, these guys, look what they're doing. They're not. Well, I mean, yeah, you saw that scare, like we talked about us a while ago about like, you know, this new manipulative way of people extorting money like on phones. You know, copying your exact voice and then asking, you know, for money because they're in an emergency. Yeah. I know. Yeah. It's crazy. I don't, I just, I just look, I just want people to there's a couple of things here that you could do. One is activism should be about you actually going and helping someone not being angry and yelling. That's, and it's also way more. Arthur Brooks talks about this. It's way more fulfilling. It's also much help. It actually helps more as well. So that's number one. And then number two is unifying number two. There's dignity and respect that each individual deserves. And if they treat you shitty, you know, shitty, they hurt you or whatever, they go after your kids or whatever, that's different. Now, then, then, then the game is on. But otherwise, like I had somebody tell me, I got into, I was on a Twitter debate and someone was, or discussion and some, and I was talking about these, like these parents are bringing their kids to these sexualized drag shows. I'm like, this is insane. What kind of parents do this? Well, what about parents who bring their kids to Hooters? I said, they're stupid too. Why does that make any difference? Yeah. I'm not defending that. Just because it's a dude that's doing it versus a girl, like you take your kid to a club or, you know, it's the same thing. You're still like degenerate dad. Yeah. So like you got to be consistent. The difference though is that just to make it be clear here is that the parents had the option to take the kids to the Hooters, which would be a stupid decision for them to do where you're in a public school where they are, they're forced, they're forced to be out and they show up. So there is definitely a clear difference. Both parents are idiots, right? Like in that situation, who's advocating for, you know, these, these drag queens to read stories to five year olds of that, that's ridiculous. And so would be bringing your five year old or seven year old to Hooters. It'd be just as irresponsible. Difference is that's a dumb choice that the parents make themselves to take them there where some of these parents don't have the choice. The kids just didn't even know. Yeah, they don't have the choice. That's the other thing that's, that's kind of scary that's happening right now too, is that some of this stuff is, is, is happening and these parents are just unaware completely. I've heard multiple stories of parents just not even knowing that like, oh, again, legacy media is going to like dismiss it and say this is all just like right wing conspiracy. You know, there's just a lot of information out there that like will stifle, you know, anything that's actually happening or not, or they'll exaggerate it on the other end too and say that's happening everywhere. And you know, so it's kind of, it's very, it's very much like what narrative you're seeking is you'll be able to find something. Yeah. And by the way, the public schools are losing students at record paces. You know, that it's breaking records right now, how many parents are homeschooling. The pandemic really boosted the shit out of that. Right. When parents saw what their kids were learning because they were at home, they're like, oh no, I'm pulling you out. Yeah. So it's like exploding right now. Some school districts actually not getting enough money because so many kids are pulling out. I mean, I hope that happens. I mean, again, that's back to your, the market response. I hope the market responds that way and then that they have to course correct because they, they can't fund the schools anymore. Speaking of schools, kids and students, did you guys hear about Starlink's new engineer they just hired? Mm-mm. Okay, this is, I mean, you want to talk about, I'm going to find the article because. Starlink as in Elon Musk. Yes. Dude, you ready for this? 14 year old Kieran Kwazi, Kwazi, I think I'm saying his name right, from Santa Clara University. He's a graduate. So he's about to graduate. 14 years old. Is he the one with three degrees? I'm going to, let me see. Oh, there was one kid that had like three degrees. But listen, so he's 14, graduating from Santa Clara University and Starlink already is going to hire him as a full-time software engineer. Wow. At the age of nine. Well, he's already, I mean. Age of nine, he's kind of been community college at nine. Let me hear you guys. What do you think, like, think that through as a dad? What's, what is your thought on that? Boy, that's right, because he might have the intelligence and all that, but that's still a child. Bro, oh yeah, it's a child. To get a job, a full-time job. That's right. And yeah, you can't tell me that is, he's not going to be robbed of his young adulthood and childhood by going straight into being an engineer. Yeah, that's a tough one. He's not a normal kid. Yeah, which, and then there's also, he's brilliant. Yeah. And so it's like. So he can probably not stimulated like the rest of his peers. And maybe he really wants to do it. Yeah, maybe he's more stimulated. He's got to. He's got to. There's no way they would force him into that, right? So there's definitely that. But then there's also. He calls it a sick. This is mom calling for him. I mean, okay, let's just, let's just play this out though a little bit. Okay, so you're the dad and you have the kid, and he is, he's not forced to do this. He wants to do this. Like what's the conversation like for you? Are you encouraging him to go do that? Are you telling him about, about the potential of what he's missing out? What are you saying to your genius kid who wants to go be an engineer at 14? I would have him do it. I would have him work way less than full time. Exactly. Yeah. It would not be full time. And then. There would be barriers around it for sure. Yeah. And then I would encourage him to build and start something of his own. Yes. To encourage the creativity. That's what I would do. Totally. I would, I would push that direction. I would put, like if you, if you want to, to keep doing the engineering thing, you still, you want to level up, like instead of us going into a working a job, a nine to five at 14 years old or something like that, let's build something together. You got to, if I have a kid that's that damn smart, with my experience of building businesses, like we're going to build something. We're going to create something together. You know what I'm saying? Imagine how challenging this would be for us coworkers. Like you're in a meeting, you know, and you're like 30 year old. That's a 14 year old. And then, and then you say something. Like no, actually, that's the wrong code. You got to be like a little genie. How's it help? Give me a wedgie. I mean, imagine the challenges that come with that too, because again, you're, you're, you're a genius when it comes to coding and things like that. But you're still a, you're still a child. I know. Social communication, leadership, you know, just wisdom maturity. Yeah. Yeah. Be able, yeah, I just, there's a lot of things that that person is going to be, that kid is going to be way behind on. I wonder what, I wonder what that pans out to be over the next four or five years. I wonder how, I wonder how I would handle that as a dad. Is that even legal? Well, hold on a second. Can you even do a full-time job at 14? With consent. You don't have to make us, yes. So he actually commented on this. What do you say? So he says, I think there is a conventional mindset that I'm missing out on my childhood. Of course. But I don't think that's true. I think, again, that mindset would have me graduating middle school now. And I don't think it makes sense for someone that's able to take rigorous graduate electives work in a prestigious co-op. I am joining SpaceX as a software engineer. I mean, he talks like you're holding them back, right? And then there's going to be resent there. So yeah, it's a tough one. Yeah, he's using them. Yeah, I was going to say, from the narrow perspective of intelligence and mathematics and code writing and like from that perspective, like, absolutely, you're right. Like, let's push the education. Let's let you go. Like, I would never want my son who's in middle school who could be crushing college to be like, hold him back. Right. Like, no, we don't want to let him accelerate. But there's a difference between accelerating your knowledge and learning and then going to work. Talk about how a work for another company. What an interesting way to rebel. No, you can't go to work. You never let me do anything. You watch me. Watch me, dude. I just want to build a rocket. You guys don't lunch pill. Watch me, dad. Yeah. I'm going to go work. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. I'm getting overtime. I mean, is he still break down and have like tantrums and shit like that and throw fits? I mean, he's 14. Yeah. You got it, right? You know. You're still going to have something like that. You give him some. Dad, make me a sandwich. Yeah. Oh, my God. Hey, my son right now. So I promise that I would bring up any time there's like difficult stuff. So we are, I think I brought up not long ago that we got on the the baby tracker thing. And he's like, I shouldn't say baby's not a baby, but the tracker thing, right? So he's like going through this growth spurt that's, you know, should be ending any day now. And this morning, I jump out of bed because I hear him like just having a meltdown. I'm like, never hear that from him. And I'm like, I get up and I'm like, and I think like Katrina's just like abandoning him or something because I never hear him meltdown like that. And I'm like, what is she doing? I get up and she's like left him. I'm like, what's going on there? She's like, just let him be. And I'm like, what? She's, what's going on? His banana broke. Yeah. Yes. His fucking, he gets pissed. Dude, his banana broken out, dude. And he's just a meltdown. You know what I'm saying? Just was so. Kids are funny. Yeah. Not right. And she's like, there's nothing you can say to him right now. There's nothing you can say to solve that, other than maybe go get him a whole another banana downstairs, which I think it was the last banana. So it was like it's the last. You can't stick it back on. Yeah, I guessed it back on. So one time I, one time I started, I broke it. He really didn't see because he'll do the same thing. Yeah. I broke Jessica saw me. She goes, no. So I quickly held it with my hand and just fed him. Like, so he's not going to notice. Yeah, yeah. It's broken. That's what. So I didn't even know that was a thing. I told you guys on the podcast. I don't know. It was like almost a year ago. I think when I first figured, we were driving in my truck somewhere and I was giving him his banana. And I just, that was my natural thing was to give him my little two-year-old a full banana. I broke it in half. And I broke it in half. And I was like, oh shit, what do I do? You know, I get you're like, oh no, you can't break his banana. You can't. I was like, well, that was news to me. Did I tell you guys, did I tell you guys, I have to sometimes peel a Rayleigh says chicken nuggets. Peel. Oh, he does like this, the fried skin. Yeah, dude. That's funny. But about peel it. I'm like, peel it. It wasn't an apple. What am I peeling? Like, take skin off. I'm like, okay. Like, you're like, well, it's healthier. You just got white nuggets, you know, nothing else. Like, this is not the tasty part. What part of it? That's of all the things. That's hilarious. I know, dude. I tell you what, too. And shout out, I know, I probably don't do enough of shouting Katrina out for wishes, but I did. I called her today after, after the fact, because of all that, I actually got up. He never comes in on my side. He came into the bedroom and he actually crawled in on my side of the bed. And I thought, oh, that was interesting. He was, he's never does that. He either comes down the middle and then cuddles up with Katrina or goes to her side. He actually came to my side and crawled in. And so I thought, oh, okay, here's an opportunity where, you know, I could be a good dad and I'll put him back down instead of having her get up because he actually came to me, right? Because normally he just, he will refuse me to do it and it's her. And it's like, oh, it sucks for you. You know what I'm saying? What's you, right? So he came to me and I'm like, okay, I should do the right thing. I should get up and I'll take him right. So I, I took him to bed. But man, I don't. So back to my teasing me about peeing, sitting down, like in Doug's story, too, of falling asleep on sitting down there. When I get up to go pee, that's another reason why I do this is that I can stay almost to sleep and like plop down on the toilet, go pee and then come back and then fall back asleep. If I wake up, then it's hard to go back. I'm fucking awake, man. And so I was up for like three hours in the middle of the night after I, because I got up, I walked him to bed. I rubbed his back a little bit till he fell asleep. And then you were done. And then I was, then I was, ah, so I'm like exhausted, man. And then in the morning, I hear him kind of breaking down and she totally like left me alone. And so I like, I called her and I just said, hey, you know, I, for, I always do, I told you guys, whenever I tell her I love you, that there's a reason what I'm thinking, right? So I told her that. She called. She says, what are you thinking about? Oh, let me tell you. And then I told her, I said, I just appreciate that you just handle that stuff and you don't ever say anything. You don't ever complain. You don't ever say, it's your turn. Like, and I know a lot of relationships, they do that, right? It's like, I got up last night, so it's your turn to get up this night. Like, she handles all of that. And I don't ever have to. And like I was, I briefly had to have an example of what it was like to not have a good night's rest of doing that and realize like, oh my God, if I had to do that 50% of the time, I would be just a, you guys would hate me. You think I'm a pain in the ass to deal with? I think that's why she doesn't. Because she knows she would hate you too. She's keeping the peace for us. She keeps the business together. I'd rather be straight and private. It's not just you, it's us. Yeah, I know. We write her texts. Just let him sleep. And I'm terrible about saying something. So I got to be better about that. You just take that stuff for granted, you know what I'm saying? Like with your partner sometimes, those little things like that. Well, I have to share some news. My, you're pregnant? Wow. It's, it happened, you guys. No, no, my prediction, you know, with the whole AI being somewhat of the Antichrist, there's a church in Germany that's now using chat GPT. To do its preaching. To do its entire service. Oh my God. So it's interesting. So far right now, like the preachers used it, it's like 85%. And so we'll prompt it. And we'll actually like, but they follow to exactly, you know, each part of it from the hymns singing to the actual format and the whole entire sermon is like all written out through chat GPT. Wow. It's just trippy, right? Like it's, it's happening already. The takeover is going to be so easy because they're going to have, they're going to have everything already. Because now you're just a guy standing up there, taking it away. Wow. And it's like, why, why be the guy and then just go right to the machine? I've actually already used it for that before. So there's been times already, I've used it twice like that, where I wish I remember, and I have it in my notes, so maybe I'll look it up for the audience to figure out what it was. But there's something like that Katrina and I were, were challenged with. And I'm like, you know what? Like there's just, the Bible verse is slipping me that it's like so good for this thing. And so I actually did chat GPT. I said, what does the Bible say about X, Y, and Z? And give it to me in the like top 10 or like that. And it like listed out and was like beautiful. Like it gave me like, all 10 of the different verses and like the meaning behind all that. Like, and so, I mean, the power of that thing is incredible. So. You know that there's some women. I see what they're doing, you know. You know there's some women that are having, that have AI boyfriends already, right? She has no this? Doug, look up, Doug look up women with AI boyfriends. There's these, there's women that are, like they'll consider their AI, their boyfriend, because it talks to them, it understands them. He really listens. He really listens to AI. Did you find it, Doug? Uh, yeah. What does the article say there? The screen's not up. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm pulling it up here. No worries. Yeah. So, it's already started, you know, and this is without a form, like a physical form. Yeah. I mean, you add a physical form. Now. Well, isn't that, I mean, obviously that's a factor, but it's not one of the highest factors, you know, for women in terms of like, you know, what they're really seeking. Yeah. When that physical form comes to you. I was going to say, for men, that's like, that's not going to cut it. Searing, like, chat about things. Stop talking. Suck me on. What is that? Hey, it's so great. Hold on, what does that say? What does that say there? Something called Man of Your Dreams for $300. It sells an AI companion that will never die, argue, or cheat. Oh, wow. Except if you stop paying. That's like the selling point on it. It's so bad. Hey, there's, I mean, see women falling in love with their AI boyfriends. That's an article. Wow. Don't get bored. You have to like, every now and then, you make one like, cheat. I mean, all of this to me just, I mean, all of this to me is, I mean, there's parts of it where like, oh my God, this is so surprising, but it's like, it just is falling right in line with the unplugged plug theory. I just think that like. I like how you referred to your theory as the theory. Yes. Yeah. Just trying to make it like, and you know why? Cause if I, if I don't say it enough, if I don't say it enough, what'll happen? It'll happen. It'll be like, whoa, this is crazy. I've been saying that for years on this plot, years I've been saying that. And it's even going to be called that it's going to be plugged in. And you know what it, you need to name it something. That's why they're plugged in and unplugged it. It'll be, no, that's how they're going to call it. They're going to call it plugged in and unplugged. And that's how it'll be like, are you plugged in? Bruce Willis was in that movie. Was it the one that? That's a, Chet, it's right at the tip of my tongue. Chad GBT would know. I know. Speak great for our producer here. It's a, it's a Chad GBT. No, you know which one it is. Yeah, I do. It's the, you know what he's talking about, right? Where it's all, Bruce Willis is like, you, you lay in these, these chairs and you're plugged in all day long and you live in the virtual world. Yeah. Like you- Bruce Willis? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's called- Is this the one where he's a taxi driver in the future? Is that something else? That's something else. This one is called- God. That's fifth element. Fifth element. Yeah, no, it's not. Yeah, this one, I mean, and I actually think it's one of the better depiction of what I think is going to happen, which is this kind of, everyone will still have these kind of home, like player one, player one is it's a little more dystopian, right? It's like this, like, you know, everyone's stacked on trailer park, whatever. But this is more like you have normal homes, but nobody goes outside. See, here's why I think you need to name it something different. I don't think the plugged in are going to be called anything. I think they're going to be just- Normal. Yes. And it'll be unplugged. The unplugged are going to have a name. Those are the weird ones. Like, oh, you're one of the- Unplugged. Whatever. Oh, wait, wait, wait. What is it? Manual. No, no, no, no. Syragids. You're organic. Syragids. Not organic. What is the term? Is this Syragids? Yes, Syragids. Justin, what's it called? You play electric guitar or acoustic or is there another term for that where there's like no electricity? Yeah, well, I mean, you do call it cusnton. Cusnton. Unplugged or acoustic. Is it just acoustic? Yeah, acoustic is, Yeah, anything I like organics organics. Oh, you're you live organically. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you're an organic, huh? Can you tell what your face is? Our cappella is that you're trying to think of? I mean, it was acoustic was what he I think that's what you were trying to do. I mean, it might be some different name or whatever But I mean, it's I'll come up with a name. I feel like it's good. Yeah credit for it It's gonna be like mad cell hit it right on the head I'm a cappella. He's autotuned Yeah, sorry Yeah, hey, did you guys did you guys hear what happened? Wow don't change He became younger It's a worth watch did you guys hear what happened in San Francisco the Westgate? Yes. Oh, yeah I'm glad you're bringing this up. So they got they're shutting down because they already closed down Nordstroms Yeah, Nordstroms left right and was because it was because of the theft came per month Like what was their nut? It was like 500 something million. They had to make no foot traffic. There's none I'm trying to look it up right now. Okay, so that's what happened. It was no foot traffic. It wasn't actually theft I thought it was theft. Well, nobody's up there buying anything. Well, he wants to be there. Yeah, why is foot traffic down? There's theft. There's drugs homelessness Yes, so they're they're they're gone and and they follow Lots of retailers that have left amber company fish left and you know, it's weird about that you bring Food shut down. It's a very obvious glaring problem And it's like the whole city's decaying and it looks like it's gonna be on its way to Detroit and like some people You bring it up and there is They like don't want to like acknowledge it or admit that it's like completely disintegrating failing Well, I mean, it's because you're literally insulting their home. That's why dude. It's it's awful It is but I mean imagine you're committed, right? You're on your you've owned a home there for 20 years Maybe you're on your second generation of living up there. Why are you fighting for change? Yeah, why aren't you actually like trying to implement things that are gonna clean up the city bring back law order? Get rid of all of this like just complete destructive behavior. Yeah, so banana Republic left. You said north from left Yeah, so the the the occupancy of the center went down to 55% By the way, I've never seen it look like this I think commercial vacancies in San Francisco wasn't like over 30% or something like that hired not I think I mean that's you know what that means You can't recover That's what that means that there you wouldn't be able to recover because you reach a certain point You can't even fix it with a major major hotel change was pulled out, too They ought to they ought to switch it to frickin watch them a call to like a homeless shelters Then change all that office space to homeless shelters and get them up off the street or something Well, if it's a figure out something you got to have medical services We need worse than them being on the street mental health Facilities to accommodate did you see since you're where you brought up real estate? I actually forgot to tell you guys this did you see what blackstone just just put together a fund of 31 31 billion to for To go buy an ounce of buying up properties again Yeah, dude. I mean if they if they infuse $31 billion and buying up properties over there like could we actually not see this this housing market really go down much How how how long I mean we may just be well nobody wants to get out of their house Everybody's got hella equity so they could raise interest rates all they want people are like I'm not you see that I posted I posted that the other day of the amount I'll show you the stat on did you see that Justin? I know I think I shared it with Sal. I don't know if I shared it with you there. Here it is right here So 67.6% have paid their mortgages off or have at least 50% equity almost 70% of people How they're not going anywhere. Yes have 50% or more equity means their houses were doubled of what they have And and or it's paid off then there's another 20 or no, excuse me another 32.4% mortgage homes with less than 50% equity And then and then 38.7 own excuse me and then another 28.9% mortgage homes with greater than 50% equity It's like insane. Yeah, there's no there and then if you have a loan There's no way you would get into a loan That's seven eight percent interest when you're sitting on that much equity and a three four five percent loan I think they're do this lower any stats right now and like in terms of people selling homes right now numbers wise like Cuz usually right now before while it's getting into summer. That's when like yeah So we're I mean it's so they they go off of like a rolling inventory to tell you if like how much where we are and so With that and you want to have like six months when you want to see when you see it come the other way We still only like in the Bay Area have like three months of inventory for homes, which is still a shortage Yeah, so we still have the and that's part of why we have the shortage though One we underbuilt for the last decade and then in addition to that You have people that are just are not going to sell right now Now that you would think that they would potentially reduce rates to stimulate But what you might just see is you might just see you won't see the rates go anywhere What you might see is big funds come in Big investment, firm, swap it up, it'll just drive it up even further So we just might be moving to a new time of renting Yeah, everybody's a renter and if you're not a renter if you own it's a you know Two million dollars to get in on a property or whatever like that So I yeah, you know, it's cool is on the Airbnb front or whatever, you know a lot of people You know this does Adam I showed you this or you you act Maybe you showed me a lot of people are buying land and building like fancy like yurts Intense and shit, and they're renting them out like crazy and people are doing for vacation. I'm making killing I've seen that yeah, they're not even houses. They're just like you fancy tints No, they buy like a glamping piece of property out in the middle of nowhere It has like a pond in the middle and then throw like five or six You know fancy yurts around it and some running water. No charge like $500 an eye I love it as a business idea. I think that's I think it's a it's a it's a great strategy right now. Totally so Organifi mentioned is coming up here and I want to say something I don't think we've communicated very often, which is that their products are actually third-party tested For glyphosate residue their glyphosate residue free so glyphosates are what they spray on GMOs But also oftentimes you can get organic products that are organic because but because the plants or whatever were grown next to Conventional plants or farms they get glyphosates on them. Well, I haven't seen that marketed from other companies Is that are they unique in because it's harder? It's harder to control It's easier to control organic and say you're organic. Yeah, you have additional testing for glyphosates Yeah, so they test their stuff for glyphosate now glyphosates Why don't you want glyphosate residue could glyphosates kill weeds? That's where they exist They act on something called the shikamati pathway, which is also present in bacteria So not yourselves, but the bacteria in your body in your gut Can get influenced by glyphosates. They almost can act like a mild antibiotic So you want something that may contribute to poor gut health You want to stay away from well isn't that the theory on what makes GMO really bad because there's a lot of genetically modified foods Zbiotic zbiotic is a GMO, right? So there's not not everything that's GMO is technically quote-unquote bad No, no, no, no, but and but where most of the it's the glyphosate that they douse them in right? That's the thing that you got to watch out for it's not the corn It's the fact that they spray you out of the corn. Is it an insecticide or herbicide glyphosates or herbicide herbicide Yeah, and they kill plants through a pathway that doesn't exist in the human body So they're like it's a what's the difference between insecticide and herbicide insects So herbicide kills plants herbs can't herb like like weeds basically weed killer got it got it got it And then insecticide weed killer versus like raid. I mean wouldn't they do both if you do one you would do the other Is there a situation? Oh, yeah, they definitely blast plants with insecticides for sure But glyphosates are unique because glyphosates will kill all plants, but you can Genetically modify a plant to not die from the glyphosate now you can spray this shit out of the crop and all the non-gmo weeds die Yeah, so it's like this brilliant way of like reducing costs and increasing yield But then you eat your corn or your plant or whatever you're the residue from and you get glyphosate transfer system It's supposedly safe, but it interacts with this but I'd also interact with the bacteria in the soil So it's like sterilizing the soil over time only gets up in the clouds rings down This is why transfers elsewhere. This is why organic foods can have glyphosates on them Even though they're not technically, you know deliberately sprayed. Yeah, it's a life is it but organify again Everything's life is a residue free third-party tested. So it's really good. Well, all right. 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All right back to the show Our first caller is Olivia from Florida. Hi, Olivia. How can we help you? Hi guys, thank you so much for having me on. I'm really excited to be here I just wanted to say thank you and a quick testament to how awesome you guys are and how much you know your stuff My fiance was a long-distance runner for years ran for a D1 school would run like 100 miles a week Said he would never give up running. I hate running. So I was like, let me get let me get you hooked on mine pump and wait So I converted him over We ran anabolic together and this guy just hit 225 for bench in like three months of training and I'm still struggling to do a plate. So but it's fine. Wow Say thank you guys for that because now I don't have to go on runs with them Awesome no problem Okay, so I'll give some background info with my question because I think it'll make a little bit more sense But basically my questions is how I can train around a busy schedule while maintaining strength gains and compound lifts So I'm 23 five to about 125 pounds. I ran anabolic from January to March And I loved it increased my strengths and all the big three lifts and definitely put on muscle Especially my quads and glutes because I need to get new scrub pants and jeans now I'm a veterinary medicine student and I'm starting clinical rotations and we rotate through different specialties in the hospital every two weeks So starting Monday, I'll be rotating through our medicine specialty, which is pretty time-consuming The hours are about 6 30 a.m. Or earlier to like 7 7 30 p.m. Or later depending on the caseload And I'll be on that for four weeks Monday through Friday and possibly weekends And then I get a four-week break of a more normal schedule like 8 to 6 and then I'll have another four weeks going through surgery Which is the same as medicine like kind of 6 a.m. To like 7 or 8 p.m So I won't really have time to commit to foundational workouts on those days I wanted to start performance because I know the flow is typically anabolic performance and then aesthetic and also I haven't trained performance style and probably about a year and a half two years and I've been training full-body style Since January and before that I spent a whole year training split style So I feel like my body probably would benefit from that Challenge, but I just can't really start that until later in the fall And then I figured I could do aesthetic in the spring when my schedule lightens up a little bit So for the time being I wanted to get your guys' advice on how I can continue to challenge my body in new ways especially while not losing strength in my compound lifts because Kind of worried about that a little bit. Yeah, this is with easy answer, Olivia We have a program that would be perfect for you maps 15 do the advanced version Basically, you'd be doing about 20 to 25 minutes a day of compound lifts and exercises So you show up the gym or if you have a barbell at home about 20 to 25 minutes every day You're doing maybe two exercises And you're not just going to keep your gains. You're probably going to get stronger by following that as long as nutrition is good And as long as you're getting good sleep. I know it's stressful what you're about to do So that could always throw a wrench, but you're you'll love it. You're gonna be and then when you're ready to Do a more traditional workout Then I would switch to mass performance but mass 15 advanced version done deal It's centered around to come to compound lifts a day basically and so and the way you can run it So if it's a really busy Stressful week You can keep the workouts just short the 15 20 minutes if you find a day where you have a day off or you're well rested You can actually combine the next workout together So if you want if you want to run it for 40 minutes Stack them we wrote it in a way where you could stack it too So it's like you can have that flexibility of when you're in a time crunch when you're not quite as rested You can run just the 15 20 minute version when there's times where you're like, oh, I gotta hold it So weekend and I don't have any work to this weekend like I want to do a full Hour type of workout you can combine two of the workouts and run it like that So there's some flexibility in it But running that um and since you already own performance The only other thing that I would say potentially to add if you have like these days where you've got some days off Or you're really rested and you're like I want to do a little more it'd be mobility stuff Because you recognize that you've already been running kind of a bodybuilder and split type of routine and full body You're probably neglecting some some mobility work. And so we have that in performance So if you want to you know add an extra day in there or something where you're doing something I would do the the mobility sessions that are in performance to complement map 15 until you get back to your kind of normal schedule Yeah, how long have you been working out consistently with strength training? Probably about three years now You're gonna probably get stronger with math 15 then You yeah, you're probably gonna this is gonna It's likely to be not just something that keeps you strong But you probably are gonna see yourself get stronger that happened to me when we created the program and I ran it Um, I hit new lifts new lift PRs and I totally did not anticipate that so That's probably gonna happen at the very least you're you're gonna just you're gonna feel good Yes, the frequency element. Yeah, I think people Don't realize like how effective that is and just how much you can get just enough and then recover and then Just keep that momentum going But it's definitely not just a preservation type of a workout routine It's definitely something that a lot of people have gained from so yeah The only the only thing I'd say is just decide if you want to do it in the morning or after work That's it. Yeah, I'm definitely like a morning movement type of person I'm so used to like getting up at like 5 a.m. And going to the gym And I feel like if I don't get that movement and if I don't feel like I'm lifting as heavy or pushing myself the way I want to I'll tend to like freak out and I'll want to over correct for it Yeah Because I have some bands at home So I didn't know if I should just switch to bands to save Time in the mornings like if there's a morning where I have to be there at like 5 30 or 6 So I was like, well, maybe I could do some bands, but I know like long term I would just be itching to get back and like lift some heavy stuff Olivia literally this is what you do. Okay, literally you shower before this is a 20 minute workout. Okay, so you're not even gonna sweat much Shower get get everything set up drive to the gym. Do your 20 minute maps 15 workout and then go straight to work Okay, yep For those um the massive team workouts I also have prime. So I do like a couple just movements Before hand before I've been doing my lifts and sometimes that takes me like 10 to 15 minutes Would I just be able to cut that out and just go straight into the lifts depends how good your movement patterns are So if you've got really good movement patterns and the exercises are not ones that are like really challenging for you to get into You could do one or two warm-up sets of an exercise And then you're gonna be okay The people that that yeah people that wouldn't work if you're like man when I squat I get hip pain or I really need to make sure I could dead lift right because I tend to hurt myself In that case I would say, you know, make sure you do the priming But if you feel good, you're okay like a one or two sets of warm-up and get into the workout You can even just reduce it down to one of those mobility exercises and do that beforehand You know the most effective one that you need and then um to like throughout the day It's gonna be just as effective if you find a moment To just perform that like for five minutes or something to break up, you know Whatever you're doing throughout the day. That's gonna play. Uh, that's gonna do very well for you Okay, that makes sense. I'll probably be able to do the um, like warm-up sets Maybe just like drop the weight a little bit to connect to the muscle and then go That's it. Yep. Exactly. Cool. So if you don't have mass 15, we'll send that to you. Okay Oh, awesome. Thank you guys so much. No problem. When are you getting married by the way? Oh, um, 2025 I want to graduate vet school first and get all my ducks in a row. All right It's good for you. Smart. Yeah, congratulations. Get it. Thank you. Thanks guys so much. You got it Yeah, you know, it's funny. We we wrote mass 15, right and uh How many dms do we get from people who are like, I didn't think I'd hit pr I don't think I'd build muscle like this is crazy all the time. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I keep getting them Yeah, it's strange and and again, I think that people underestimate The frequency. Yeah component I also think it highlights something else that we have communicated on this podcast and we've admitted ourselves that We're guilty of this is obviously if you listen to a fitness podcast, you probably like fitness Right, you're probably And probably a good percentage or even probably fitness fanatics Like us they could benefit from and we tend to we tend to overreach sure And over train and not count all the other stress in our life Family member dies school test work grinding like crazy. Oh, and then I'm crushing the gym too And it's like, you know, I think a lot of people didn't realize That maybe scaling back the workout that would not hinder the results In fact it in accelerating a lot of people, you know, she brought up something else that we we don't talk too much That about like an example of like where I cut out like my mobility stuff And I think you guys answered it, uh, perfect and it's like So if I'm if I'm going to squat, uh, and you said it's not like that's a movement pattern where I have to do combat stretch I've got to do like a quick zone one thing and prime my upper back to to perform A really otherwise my low back will be feeling it my hips will be filling it and I'll pay for it afterwards It's like it's a non-negotiable that but I can go into a deadlift cold I can go into even over it now. Does that mean that I wouldn't benefit from doing prime movements? Absolutely, I would benefit but I could go into those movements. You can warm up with the move That's right. There's certain movements that are just I absolutely have to prime in order to get myself in a favorable position Then there's other movements that I can it's it would be ideal for me still to prime and if I have the time I'm definitely doing it But if that's something where I'm like shit. I'm crunched on time. It's okay. I'm deadlifting today I can get right into that movement. So Next color is carry from indiana carry. What's happening? How can we help you? How you doing guys? Good man. Thank you I uh, thanks for taking the time to have me on today. I really appreciate it. You got it. How can we help you? Uh, well just to kind of give you a quick bio. So I uh, I'm sure you've heard this story about a million times over your guys's years of training, but um I uh, I'm divorced no kids over the last few years especially during coba. I put on a ton of weight It's just been a rough few years like everybody else Um currently 45 years old and 510 uh 305 um started working out seriously for the first time about three or four months ago and lost about 20 25 pounds since then and currently I am Doing 170 grams approaching per day 2400 calories Uh, you got almost all my food some whole foods kind of took that advice from you guys as far as Trying to stay away from the restaurants with seed oils and whatnot that you guys have taught me and um I quickly learned just kind of like going through podcasts and I found you guys be much going to get into the gym and just love How much I've learned so far and I'm going back and listen to old episodes and just really appreciate everything you guys put out there. So just wanted to say thanks for that and Um, I'm just kind of at a point where like I want to make sure that I'm getting everything I can out of my efforts And I don't really know where to begin. I know I love there's so many like maps programs and things out there that are available and I love Uh, listen to some of the a lot of the callers talk about different programs, but I'm not really sure like What would be best for me? I I do have limited abilities at times just because of my weight I feel like I can't even touch my toes like sometimes and hamstrings are tight from lifting lately and Um, but I will say that like I said, I lost about 20 30 pounds so far. I'm stronger than I've ever been I'm doing I'm getting PRs all the time because I'm lifting pretty heavy Um, you know, I hear you guys talk about like reverse dieting versus cutting Hit versus on two cardio's you're just walking Um, I hear you guys talk about high reps versus low reps Like I'm not really sure like how where to begin and how to I guess how to start this journey Yeah, well you came to the right place for sure and congratulations on your initial 20 pound weight loss Um, thank you. Yeah, so what does your workout look like now? How many days a week do you go to the gym? How long your workouts? What are the exercises you tend to do? Yeah, um, currently doing like a three day split where like push pull legs Um, I'm walking about 60 minutes on the other four days Um, my workouts consist of usually about six exercises about 18 reps um anywhere between On the low end like six reps if I'm trying to lift heavy for a set or up to like 10 or 12 reps for You know, some of the other sets Uh, largely I haven't really got much into like some of the core exercises that you guys have talked about as far as like squats or anything like that It's more of a bench overhead press um Yeah, more of the you know, leg mostly machines for legs currently, you know You know more of like kind of the beginner workouts that I found online Okay, kerry. Can you do a deadlift in a squat in a barbell squat? Are you have you tried those? Yeah, okay Uh maps on a ball would be the perfect program for you, but I would start you in pre phase And I would do I would do pre phase for about six weeks Maybe eight weeks so six to eight weeks and then move to phase one and then follow the program I think that'll be perfect for you. Okay. By the way, what you're doing right now is not bad. Yeah, you're okay You're actually doing okay, which is why you're seeing great results. I think the only thing I would I might I would probably bump your protein to like 200 grams exactly what I was going to say So I probably I'd push you up a little bit on but that's about it I mean like so that will also bring your calories to probably about 2600 calories or so I would love to put you on maps and a ball like sal said That new stimulus, especially with the squatting and deadlifting new movements in there right now With an increase in grams of protein I think you're going to see yourself continue to build muscle and continue to speed your metabolism up Which would be the main focus. I think for the next probably six to eight weeks. Like he said, I love that direction Yeah, the other thing I would do but you're doing great, bro You are and the other thing I would do is I would track your steps every day And which I do do that. Okay. So what are you averaging on a daily basis? Um, it kind of I mean I see like the four days that I'm walking in between my lifts I get a lot more steps, but on average probably about eight to 10,000 Good. So try to see If you could hit eight to 10,000 steps a day without the treadmill that would be the one piece of advice I'll give you now. Here's why not there's nothing there's nothing wrong with the treadmill. You're walking There's nothing wrong with it, but long term If we're going to try and create uh habits and behaviors in a lifestyle that's sustainable because here's the challenge I'm gonna be honest with you. I know right now you're thinking the challenge is to lose the weight It's actually not going to be the challenge the challenge is going to be keeping it off Okay, now they're both hard, but if I were to compare the two Losing the weight is significantly easier than keeping it off keeping nobody keeps it off Like, you know, maybe five to 10 percent of people are able to do it because what they do is the third time I'm trying to lose the weight. I've watched 100 pounds twice in my life already. Oh, wow. Okay So you know you know that okay. Yeah. So yeah, first few times. I didn't do it the health way I'm trying to do it the right way this time You are so far stay on this and so rather than then then walking on a treadmill and getting those steps See if you can challenge yourself to do it Uh, just throughout the day. Okay, so what does that look like in experiment with this literally you go to the store Park far away. You got to use the bathroom in the building use the one on the third floor take the stairs Uh, you know, you're in your chair. Let's say you're watching tv Be like, you know what I need to get some more steps Walk around while watching like small things it start what happens You start to develop different behaviors and it's uh, you're you're more likely to be consistent with something like that Then you are to stop get on a treadmill for 60 minutes You know something like that. So that would be pretty much it and then the protein 200 grams a day from Whole Foods eat the protein first if you're not doing that already So whenever you look at your food your meal Whatever the protein is eat that first then move to the rest that helps control cravings It it helps with Satiety it helps with blood sugar And it's another great behavior to learn what will happen over time is as you start doing that That's how you're gonna prefer to to eat that's like so when I was a kid growing up We always ate the starches first But then when I got into fitness, I ate the protein first now I hate I'll always eat the protein first no matter what it's just the way I prefer to eat So it's another kind of behavior training tool that would be the other thing I'd say but But that's pretty much it and then when we give you maps and a ball like Pre-phase and make in in perfect form is the priority Perfect form. Okay, so it's all right to lift heavy. It's all right to go hard But do not compromise your form even a quarter of an inch Okay, because what the what you want to do over time is practice perfect movement And that's going to pay you back dividends. Here's how we're going to make sure of that Okay, we're going to make sure that when you lose this 100 pounds this time that you keep it off forever And we're going to I'm going to have Doug put you in the private form also And then what I my my ask of you is that When you start going through the maps and a ball program and you're squatting and you're deadlifting Show share the videos with us and tag us so we can help you with the form and technique Make sure you're staying on point with all that and just check in with us Continue to check in with us through your progress. That's what that form is there for It's an incredible community of a bunch of people like yourself that have gone through most of the programs And then us and make sure you stay in touch with us And we'll make sure that you you not only lose this but you keep it off forever Awesome, that is exactly what I'm looking for. I mean anything I want I just want to get leaner I want to but I want to get strong. I don't want to just be skinny like I was before you're doing it right You're already doing it right. That's the right attitude. Yeah, you're doing it. You're already doing it Right right now. We're just going to make sure you stay on the stay on the course Awesome, that is fantastic advice. I really appreciate it guys. You got it brother. All right carry. Yeah, thanks for calling in man Thanks a lot. You guys have a great day. Appreciate it. Wow. I'll tell you what when he said that he's lost 100 pounds twice Crazy, and now he's trying again like I want people just to understand that that that is a big deal Because what tends to happen when somebody loses a lot of weight and gains it back They never try again They never or they'll try second time and if they try second time and fail which often happens Then they're done forever. So deflating the fact that he's trying again Um is a testament and really really good and has the discipline to be patient Yes, and do it the slow right way because people tend to not do it better in second to third. Yeah. Yeah No, you just get more extreme Yes, typically people that do this the second the third of the four however many times they do like well it didn't work That time go. That's right. They do they they just keep upping the extreme diet or the extreme exercise routine to do that So the fact that he's had the mess mental discipline and fortitude to actually Slow this process down. He's doing a great job. And I and what's great is He's only been doing machines for lower body when he starts squatting and lifting. Oh, this can be a world opened up Yeah, increase that protein and take a little bit. He's going to pack on some more muscle that metabolism to get roaring It's he's on the right track man. So i'm excited to stay in touch with him in the forum Next color is david from minnesota david. What's happening? How can we help you? Hey guys, I just have a question for you and I thought it was a pretty good one. Um Um, I work from home. So I my spine tends to get compressed and I know that certain things like walking and And pull-ups and dead bar hangs help I still want to lift weights And common sense tells me that I chest press and shoulder press Are not a good idea while you're trying to be decompressed But do you have other exercises that are safe to do in the meantime Yes, and now you you left I i'm reading your question here. So there's there's an important factor that um, We want to consider when we answer this so it says in the question that you have Cerebral uh several cerebral palsy. Is that correct? Cerebral palsy. Yes. Okay. Yeah, okay So now i'm going to give you a general answer. That's true for anybody. Okay Any exercise that you can perform With good control and stability. Okay is safe any exercise Okay. Now specifically exercises that may help the spine Um, I like the ones that you're already doing I also like you sitting on things that require you to activate your core a little bit like a physio ball might be okay Or they sell certain chairs that require you to be a little stable And there's also there's also standing desks that can help with that as well And that's just I mean I advise that for for most people anyway And it does make a difference because it does require you To maintain yourself with different stability versus like just kind of sitting into the chair That that makes perfect sense and for more context. I'm an accountant who works from home. So That's pretty sedentary. Yes. Yep Also, what do you think about like bands and suspension trainers stuff like that? Oh, I mean Amazing. Do you go to a jam or do you work at a home? I work out at home. I do have like a local gym nearby, but What does your set up consist of? Yeah Yeah, what do you know? I've got uh adjustable dumbbells, uh, like the What's it called the the Dumbler that no region Dumbler where you fit plates on it's got the magnetic clips. I've got that uh, and I've got every band you can imagine and Pull up bar door attachment and a dip stand Oh, you know what would be symmetry would be really good too Well, I would go map starter. Yeah, I would just do map starter. I do you have any of our programs I I do that I was I was wondering which one would be like the best to to get first because I thought Since I have all the bands, maybe bands would be good, but It's starting from step one might be a good idea. I'm gonna give the experts. I'm gonna give you map starter Yeah, I'm gonna give you map starter. We'll give you bands. You could do that later It would be great. But start with map starter I think that would be the right program and then remember what I said, right? If you can do an exercise and you feel like you've got adequate stability and control And mobility then it's safe. Yeah, so any exercise could be dangerous and any exercise could be safe Based off of those standards So and the and the goal that I'm doing with you, David If you're my client is I'm always challenging form technique tempo Stability before I add load. So let's say you and I are doing an overhead press and you're like, Adam I'm kicking asses this they were doing say 90 pounds over your head and you're like We're we're super happy and you're like, I can do more I'm gonna go like, okay What I want you to do is stabilize at the top slow down the negative And I'm gonna make that 90 pounds even heavier more challenging without adding load So think that way too. So as you progress yourself Through the movements in any of the programs that we have Before you just jump to adding more weight because you know you can do more weight Challenge yourself by slowing down the tempo or adding a stability component to the movement That's going to serve you much more than just adding 10 or 15 thousand bar. Totally. That's that that would be all the focus Yeah, if I was training 100% have you When how long have you been doing strength training? I I've been doing strength training since I was about Freshman in high school, uh, especially with cerebral palsy It's sort of a game changer when it comes to just coordination and balance and like certain things that used to knock me over Before I started lifting legs Did not like that for example It's it's it's 100% Uh, the the game changer for someone like yourself 100% you're training When you're doing strength training a lot of people think they're training their muscles and you are But you're training your central nervous system as much or more Yes And that stability and that control factor is what I want you to focus on when you're following map starters So when you look at the exercise and you do it Go with the weight that is lighter And then try to make it heavier by doing a slower more controlled right add that muscle tension too So that that slow temples tempo is everything but really too to really kind of squeeze and connect to those muscles Yes, you hold in full extension and then slowly bring it back down. It's just going to do wonders for you So yeah, and then we'll send you maps bands. That's a that's a band related workout as well But I think map starters a place to start All right Stay in touch with us too. All right, David Let us know as you go through those because then I even think there's some great benefits to symmetry for you after that So I like starter I like bands and then I even like the isometric and unilateral work for you for from symmetry So we'll move into that after those All right. Yeah, I'll do the program and I'll keep you guys up today Awesome, perfect man. Thank you. All right, David Keep after it man. Thank you. All right I can't think of a job that would be more torturous for me than accountant Oh my god imagine sitting down doing numbers all day long I ever tell you about one of my one of my high school best friends that He lived with me when I moved to San Jose. I remember he got a he got a job with Deloitte and Touche And that was back when I was working at the gym and you know We're you know the grinding gym schedule right get home 10 11 o'clock at night and I love the job Right, so I come home all like Yeah psyched and energy like we all did right and he'd come home just like he just got beat and I'd be like What'd you do today, dude? So bro, I fucking photocopied for 12 hours Swear to god he and this was like every day He and he's like in literally office They almost like put you through the gauntlet if you work for like one of these big firm That they put you through the gauntlet For the until you make like partner and that's like the deal is like you are the runt and you just do all the Bitch work. It's already like a laborious job as it is right being an accountant And then you got to do all the bitch work on top of that to like earn your stripes before because when you become Important you make really good fucking money and he couldn't he's like he knew What the he knew what the pot of gold was the in the rainbow and he's like I can't know not worth it So he couldn't yeah, he never never went back. What he ended up doing. So he's actually in the wine industry Much more fun. He's made more fun. He's very successful too. He's he's up in the In fact, I told you I think I showed you a picture of him. He was at the laker warrior game Down low with me. We hadn't seen each other in years and ran into you ran into him Yeah, and he's doing all the wine thing. But yeah counting is back to david Have you guys trained anybody with cerebral palsy before yeah, and I've had it I actually have it we had a close family friend that had it but he was really like david looks like he's Yeah, he looks like he's he's fine. He's with it. Yeah, like my buddy. I had what like yeah There's very good a real like limited very well, right strength training is such I mean it now with standard care, right when you have they do forms of strength training almost always Yeah, but uh, and it just it just makes such a cool What I noticed when I had a client that difficulty it was like when she didn't show up It was yes the symptoms got even worse. Yes. Well, isn't it is it considered a Neurological degenerative disease it can degenerate. Yes, right? So I mean you talk about if that's what's going to happen. It's going to atrophy and lose connect I mean nothing is going to be that's the counter. David keep going man. That's right Our next caller is Joe from Copenhagen Joe. What's happening? How can we help you? Hello guys, um, so first of all, uh, I just want to thank you for putting yourself out there and I actually found you like three years ago through poll check Tenses then I just binged most of your stuff and I also want to thank you for sharing your journeys as a fathers and as a man It's very impactful and also be doubtful because just Growing up small like raising small humans. It's a quite a responsibility. So I appreciate you sharing your Thank you your journey Um, so bit about me My background is I've been playing ice looking close 20. Uh, I also did karate I had a lot of injuries throughout the time But the last one I had the most impactful that I'm also like why I'm here is I dislocated my shoulder and my elbow at the same time And then I had a year later. I had a lot of that lot of jet surgery because Yeah, it was just unstable Um, so that was four years ago. Hey, since then it's been going better I had had troubles with pushing and overhead pressing before I could do a Like a l-sit from the from the ground and go to the handstand Now I'm happy that I can do l-sit because my shoulder is just very Painful especially in the back of the back of the shoulder We're especially when I'm pressing and when I'm it's actually only when I'm pressing and when I'm moving my arms up um, so I have been doing, uh, I did Maps anabolic that helped because I also did additionally on like only like One-sided dumbbell rows presses and kettlebell presses and then like high reps of those But, um It's been very slow. So in four years, I have not been able to recover I was able to to shoulder press like 24 degrees 24 kilograms with one with one hand But now I can do 20 and it's painful So the question that I have really and I skipped a little bit, but the question that I have is Uh, what would you recommend would you recommend doing like something like symmetry or? Um and also I skipped something so I don't have a gym membership so the part of of The problem is that I I was a coaching so I was a fitness coach. I I don't coach anymore Because of finances and stuff. So I started in gardening And I also cancel my gym membership because of that. So right now I'm doing gardening Day job. I am doing band training and calisthenics And besides that I'm trying to get Bigger and stronger and and most importantly fix my shoulder so I can actually get a bigger and stronger without problems Okay, let's back up for a second. Okay. Yeah, I got carried Okay, so, uh, that's a lot of good information. Yeah, so, uh ladder jet surgery. This is the one where Uh, they remove some bone from a part of your body attach it to the top of the shoulder the humerus Um, and they try to create a tighter Basically a tighter shoulder socket to prevent further Um dislocation. Is that correct? Yes, yes, the reposition to take the bone from the glenoid and they put it on the They put it on the glenoid they take a bone from Around the claicula. Okay. Um, how did how did you dislocate your shoulder because that that's a pretty the substantial surgery? Uh, yeah, I got pushed from behind playing on eyes of the game And yeah during the game. Okay Yeah, okay, so traditional mobility work Um, and because what's here's a deal your structure is different now. Okay So when they do that they've changed your structure Which essentially means all of the muscles and supporting structures You you literally have to relearn new pattern all new recruitment pattern. Yeah, okay So it's not like it was before so even if you had the old recruitment pattern Which you probably still lost because you went through the injury process and the surgery Even if you had that it still wouldn't need to change a little bit because Your anatomy is now different. Okay, so your anatomy has changed in a Small but significant way So correctional exercise is going to be paramount right now maps prime pro has Shoulder movements in there that I think you should do on a daily basis and I think you should do them slowly and carefully With intention And I don't know if you can expect to get back to where you were before But you could definitely go a lot further than you are right now So I that's that would be the priority is what I'd focus on As far as your workout is concerned Map symmetry would be the way to go but you don't have dumbbells. Do you? No, I have to get to both Okay, you're okay then. I think you can modify it. It would be all right. You could do with kettlebells Yeah, I think too like he said in terms of like really hyper focusing on the what's um, you know your mobility issues Um and repatterning that whole process But then too like after you get through kind of that that isometric kind of kin stretch type of work To add load I would very much like start with with rubber bands with that as your next kind of follow-up to that just because Of you know the low damage with that and also like the consistent sort of resistance that you're gonna have to then Because you just got to take some time to realize like, you know, you have to you have to reteach You know that function out of that shoulder before we really start to kind of get to where I know you want to go Because you've been able to lift You know quite some weight there with your shoulder before but uh to reteach it and then also go through kind of more unilateral work So we can uh simultaneously kind of have Have both sides work their way up together So it's not just a fully by loaded situation. Let the weaker side Dictate the weight by the way, so don't lift more weight just because you're stronger on your other shoulder Do exactly what you do on the weaker side on your stronger side Otherwise, you'll maintain an imbalance if you continue to lift different weights So let me let me make sure I'm hearing you guys correctly then so then the the prescription here is We're going to send you maps prime pro Do the shoulder work in there like as much as you can really because it's just I would do it several times a day Yeah multiple times a day if you can so that you go follow what it says for shoulder in there and then Progress into symmetry When you run symmetry, we're going to use kettle bells Where you want to incorporate bands potential? I wish because in band and maps bands we have a band distractions Which is kind of what i'm alluding to in terms of like adding, you know resistance to your mobility moves Um, do you have bands? Yeah, I have been okay So then why don't we why don't we give him bands and then specifically take the band distractions and and and implement that There you go, so it's it's basically like our frequency builder days like in between So you would be doing that full Session there to kind of work your way back With bands resistance. Yeah, but but think of it this way joe If you if you would have learned how to walk And let's say you started learning how to walk Okay, and you had to really focus on your technique because you're learning how to walk if someone told you to run real fast And you tried you might be able to move faster But your technique would go out the window because now you're trying to do with speed and intensity Okay, because of what you because of your shoulder procedure You have to go light slow and really really focus on developing new recruitment patterns and And recruitment patterns that work for you if you push intensity and speed Too too soon you will be able to lift more weight and you will be able to move faster But your body's not going to go and the momentum is going to mask Oh, you know some some of those disconnects. Yeah, so we want to reconnect the entire Way through and that's why bands are great for that because you know, there's no Sort of getting around the fact that you're gonna have resistance in every portion of that rep a way for you to To measure or know if you're on the right track to what they're saying is prime pro The real goal of what we just gave you and everything we said is to be is to get perfect at those shoulder movements So when you in the video in the video demos, you're gonna see justin doing a bunch of the moves I think you're doing most of the moves in there, right? Yeah in print. Oh, yeah So justin's doing most of moves in there is to you want to get to a place With your shoulder to be able to perform the movements as well as he can That's more of a priority than loading and going heavier with your kettlebell So make that the priority is getting really good at intensifying that workout more than trying to intensify the weight training Yeah, one last thing in uh, the shoulders are complex joint It's not just the shoulder. It's also the scapula that has to learn And develop recruitment patterns that are now going to be favorable Considering your slightly altered structure in prime pro their scapular movements and shoulder movements do them both Yeah, okay. Yeah Yeah, but this surgery was four years ago since then I've been doing brazilan jujitsu I actually got my blue belt and I won competitions But still my shoulder is is just weaker and I've been trying to work through it Listen, I'm not I'm not telling you rehab stuff. Yeah, I'm telling you how to get your shoulder to stop hurting Yeah, so you've gotten stronger You're definitely stronger, but it hurts bro when you go through prime pro if you do prime pro correctly You'll be sweating from the movements So it's not like this like, you know sit back and straight laced like yoga shit Like it's your it's going to be intense and that's that's where your intensity should be in there That's where you are really trying to create this greater range of motion better control In the shoulder complex area. That's what you want to be and it's not like south say it's not like some You know cheesy little rehab thing that you're doing If you're move if you're hurting that means your recruitment pattern is not ideal and you've gotten strong In this not great recruitment pattern. So if you push the weight, you're going to just keep doing what you're doing Yeah, that's why we got it back down And you're going to reinforce the dysfunction. You have to learn a new recruitment pattern You have to learn it and it takes a little bit of time and it takes practice But if you push the weight, you're going to default to what you're stronger at and right now you're stronger at a recruitment pattern That's causing pain. I hope that makes sense Yeah, I also noticed my it has kind of been like this maybe promiso key that my one shoulder I think my left one is lower in my right shoulder That could be also because and actually doctor told me that I should have surgery on the right shoulder actually as well because I'm Listen Be careful. Yeah, be careful with with uh, you know when somebody has a hammer And you ask them, you know to put a screw in because they're gonna tell you to hammer the screw in so Yeah, I'm not going there Learning new recruitment patterns when you've already strengthened a bad an old, you know One that's not ideal and it's strong takes time It takes time. So give yourself a year Of focus and then you'll get strong You'll surpass where you are now and you'll have no pain or far less pain Hmm. Okay a year That's something it takes a while. It takes a while, but you've you've you've developed this recruitment pattern now for the last what three four years It's it's also been getting better as I was getting stronger. I had to push through a little bit. Um, but yes, it's it's been Um four years in surgery and it's been hurting less, but it's still hurting. It's not that much easier Oh, it might take less than a year in that case, but it's going to take some time as my point Yeah, and it'll it'll get progressively better. It won't be like you don't see anything for a year It's like, you know, you know, but what sal's saying is be patient be patient. This is not like an overnight thing It's and the the stuff in prime pro You know, I can't stress enough that you're it's far more valuable To frequently do it throughout the day and every day every day then it is to do a one hard session Or two hard sessions a week, which is what a lot of people tend to do is they approach mobility Stuff like a bodybuilding like beautiful things. It's intense, but you can repeat it constantly because you can recover Pretty quickly from it. So it's not like every day doing damage. What it's doing. It's just reinforcing that Better recruitment patterns. So now, you know, your function and your strength is all going to be Uh more stabilized because you you you have experience to your athletic You have a background here. You're gonna notice that there's like, you know, wall circles and there's a hand cuff with rotation There's these all these different movements You're gonna find one or two of them that you feel really good from it after it like you're gonna do it You're gonna be like, oh, wow that that does feel like it's working and helping When when that light bulb goes off for you You do that all the time then like make that be the like let's say it's the wall circle and you're like, oh Shit when I do that, yeah five times a day that that really I can feel that helps me out And now when I move I can feel that the pain's decreasing like that's your signal like oh That's really improving what you need and do it all the time Don't just do it once every couple days do it four or five times a day for just a minute or two Like literally every time you get next to a wall you got a few minutes right before your threshold Do it hold it squeeze into a connect with it back off and you just keep that pattern going and going and going until Eventually it's no more It's right. All right. All right, Joseph. Thanks. So we'll send those to you Thank you guys. I have another question. It's a bit sensitive, but if you don't mind I'll Sal is very So there is a lot of it. I mean not much information How do you so it might in my family it's been genetically problems with hemorrhoids and I find very hard to work out especially to push harder With that kind of issue because if I weight lift it creates pressure It can it create internal pressure and then it flares up hemorrhoids and it's not enough information out there to figure out How to work out around that or just give it a rest and wait, I don't know. Do you have anything there? Yeah, well, okay So the experience I have with this is when I would train postpartum Uh women So hemorrhoids was very common In women who just had a baby super common. I think like the 70 percent Is it really high? Yeah. Wow. That's pretty. I mean you're pushing a baby up I didn't realize it was that hard. Yeah, and then they would hire me and um, I would do strength training with them And of course this would oftentimes become an issue. So number one The the number one factor that helped was modifying their diet um lots of Fluid and a high fiber diet without really preventing Any kind of straining or constipation? So they would eat well cooked vegetables. They would add psyllium psyllium husk is a really really good supplement for them So they would start the morning off with a serving like a tablespoon of psyllium husk with two glasses of water You have to have a lot of water with psyllium. Otherwise it actually acts in the opposite. Okay So that that made the biggest difference Then when we would work out I would have them and this is the thing with this As it gets better you can start to train with higher intensity But in the beginning you have to learn to breathe and relax the body and focus on the target area So this is not an ideal way to lift heavy right when you're lifting heavy You want to activate everything and you want you want to strain and struggle but with something like this I would have them While they're doing it try to keep the face Relaxed you can brace the core, but don't create lots of internal pressure in the core This is the opposite of what I would tell somebody when they're doing a heavy pr Okay, so heavy pr is probably out of the question. So they would breathe out relax the face Focus on the target muscle and that usually would would would create less pressure Uh on the area that would that they would you know, they would feel it negatively otherwise But the the fiber well cooked vegetables the psyllium husk lots of fluid that made the biggest impact Okay, all right. I appreciate it. You got it. Thanks for calling in Joe. All right, man. Thank you Adam. So Justin Thank you man Remember when I helped you with that Justin Your real hands on without I appreciate that Hey, uh, you know, I tell you I tell you um with the recruit This is the analogy I've given before on the show And I think it's the best analogy to help people understand what I mean by what we talk about when we say recruitment patterns if you Typed on a keyboard with your index fingers for for three years and you got real fast with it Because you can get kind of fast right with two fingers. You know, we're gonna get squirrel Yeah, but you're just doing this, you know all the time and then someone comes along and says, hey You know if you do it with all your fingers in this particular way, you can be a lot faster Well, initially you're not yeah, you suck initially you're slower that way And then if you tell someone to go as fast as they can with this new method, they're gonna be like screw that I'm gonna go back to my old method because you're telling me to go fast But eventually through slow practice and learning this new pattern You surpass what you could do before this is what this is exactly what happens with the recruitment patterns If you push yourself too hard your body goes back to what it's good at and it will avoid trying to learn this new pattern Everything he's talking about is just somebody that just drives full intensity full blast. I can guarantee it Yeah, every and that's what's so hard. It's a such a hard switch to that's why you don't like what I said It's gonna take no, I didn't like any of what we had to say And that's fine, you know, and it's but we're not gonna change You know the prescription it is gonna help and gonna benefit and and you know It's just sometimes you just have to step out and be like I need to to take care of this I have to like take care of my body and I have to allow this to you know, fully recover I have to retrain it. I have to relearn How to use, you know, my shoulder adequately and that takes time Maybe one of the hardest people to help virtually that we've had yet I mean just really tough to commute without the tough one to articulate Yeah, without seeing that person move and then be able to put them in a more advantageous position and then and then say feel that that's what I need you to You know I'm saying like it's gonna be all feel and slow and control hard for us to communicate that with such a unique surgery and All the potential ways that he could be moving well or not well And then you add in the hemorrhoids on top of that and then like addressing that I mean that was a that's a that's a tough. I mean, I felt like the advice was really good I just hope that I tell you if I hope it resonates a little I mean if anything And if I didn't have experience trained, I trained a lot of postpartum women That was that was 100 percent a common thing with them That's the only reason why I know, you know, what to do there because I would work with their doctors Yeah, so I hope I hope that he sticks with the trust of process and then also stays in touch with us Because that is a tough one to try and to to mend virtually totally Look, if you like mine pump if you like our show you want good fitness information But you want it to be filtered through us because let's be frank the fitness industry lies all the time We'll check this out go to askminepump.com ask any question and our new AI model We'll answer your question based off of our episode. So it's our voice Telling you our advice askminepump.com