 We're glad to know you're still there and watching breakfuzz on PLOS TV. And I'm still Nyamgul Agadji, your host for today. The thing that is trending right now in the country is the fuel subsidy removal. Yes, the new administration has shown that it has a political will to take very drastic decisions that affect the country. But this particular one, is it a boom or a bane? Is it advantageous or disadvantageous to our existence as a people? Well, one of the stakeholders in the petroleum industry, that is the Ipman, has opposed the president's subsidy removal plan. And I'm glad that I have with us today the Public Relations Officer of Ipman in the person of Chief Ukadike Chinedu. Welcome to the program, Chief. For a very long time, even from the time of MKO, Biola and so many other people, the removal of fuel subsidy has been a topic. Right now, from the administration of Obasanjo to Yaradua and every other administration, they have been talking about the fact that this fuel subsidy needs to be removed. And finally, it has been removed, but the stakeholders are kicking against it. Ipman is one of those stakeholders kicking against it. What actually do you see wrong in this removal? Let us know. Well, thank you very much. Ipman, during the Asiwaju Chinedu campaign, during his campaigns, he invited us to have a chat with him. That was really a campaign. And we discussed this issue of subsidy, and he reassured us that he would remove subsidy. But he knows how to do it. He knows the measures to take to ensure that he would not inflate injuries, he would not inflate calamities, he would not inflate chaos to the masses. And in the program MKO of Nigeria, we gave him our law. We agreed with him and we also want to partner with him to ensure that the discount called subsidy is very removed. And when the statement came from the immigration speech, we were taken aback that this statement is a policy statement. Is it implemented with immediate effect, or is it something that is reassuring and re-assuring his campaign promises that is going to remove subsidy? So that is why we are taking aback. It's not that in the program MKO will condemn the policy of... We can't hear chief. Chief. President Muhammad Bari, he was also trying to do that. So this policy of this statement of cinema, this statement of cinema has already thrown the civil society into chaos. So we are wondering. Chief. Chief Ukadike Chinadu is talking with us, but we seem to be having some network problems, audio issues on his part, and we're hoping that he will reconnect with us. So Chief Ukadike Chinadu is the public relations officer of the independent petroleum market as association of Nigeria, Ipman for short. And they are opposing the removal of fuel subsidy. Go ahead please. Yeah, sorry. I'm not in my jail. But I have believed that maybe this government gets through that. That was why. Chief, we're finding it difficult to hear you and your audio is coming on and off. And I hope that you will do something and rejoin us for us to discuss this very important thing. We're asking ourselves if Ipma... Okay, we asked the question earlier on if Ipman and other stakeholders, very critical stakeholders are kicking against it. Who did they discuss this subsidy removal plan with at all? But we also have found out that it is now that they're meeting with the NNPC and it is now that also they're meeting with the Central Bank of Nigeria and other relevant authorities to find a way to alleviate the sufferings of the people. And like our earlier guest said, that is like putting the cart before the horse. How do you expect the horse to take that cart along? It will not move smoothly. So right now, I would have loved the situation where Chief Chinadu would have told us what kind of measures they were expecting the president to put in place. Because he said that the president before the election had had a meeting with Ipman and told them about his plan to remove fuel subsidy. And they agreed with him. Right now, they were thinking that he shouldn't have done it the way he did it. So we would have loved to know what it is they discussed and how it is they wanted this fuel subsidy to be removed so that it will not affect the sellers and the buyers of this commodity. Because at the end of the day, it is us, the people who are buying from the sellers that will bear the brunt because nobody wants to sell at the loss. So we are going to be the ones, the average Nigerians are going to be the ones that will bear the consequences of the removal of fuel subsidy. So is it going to be good for our economy, going to be better for our economy as it is right now before anything is being done? And how much time is it going to take? The measures that they told the president to put in place, how long would it have taken? And all that. We would have loved to know that from Chief Ukadike Cinedu. Unfortunately, we have lost his audio and even his video. We're hoping that if he can reconnect us from now to 8.30, we are going to return to him for him to be able to tell us what he thinks. For now, we'll just take a short break while we wait.