 I am from Babasai College of Engineering Pusat, which is affiliated to San Gargibaba, Amaraut University. Actually, we are having two branches at our college, which deals actually with your computer programming, computer science and engineering as well as information technology. We do also have civil, mechanical and so on. The syllabus that we are having for computer science and IT, in the first semester, we have a common syllabus. Actually, we are not dividing the number of classes into computer science one and so on. We are having, we have actually divided the syllabus into two parts CS1 and CS2. So, in the first semester, we are having the CS1, so we actually, we have divided into three units. First unit covers the fundamentals about the computers. We have eight hours duration, which is reserved for that and second unit two onwards, we cover the C fundamentals and unit three, the control structures and loopings. These are the books, those are recommended. Actually this is the syllabus, which is prescribed by the university. We can, actually the eight hours, we can reduce it or we can increase it as per our convenience as well as, again we have divided the classes as per the branches. So, we can concentrate on computer students, IT students as well as electronics people more for C programming, because these people use computers, CS programming is required for those people. Point is... Two parts. Two semesters. Two semesters. Okay. And that is how they are called CS1 and CS2. To begin with... CS2... Yeah. Immediately followed by that. Arrays, pointers and structures, up to files we used to cover in CS2. Actually, eight hours per unit is there by the university that has been prescribed. In fact, earlier we used to have annual course, like there were two exams and later it was compulsory that it should be conducted in semester pattern, so what they had done, straight away the six units were divided along two semesters. Two parts. So, first three units in first semester and later three units in next semester. That is how it is conducted. Three hours per week for theory and for practical we are having, again, actually the university is giving guidelines for what are the practicals that those should be conducted. Actually, we can increase or we can make any changes as per our convenience. These are some of the guidelines which are given. Again, it has been considered the students are having zero knowledge about the computers. So, considering those the CS1 syllabus, practicals are being set, we are concentrating more on the C programming for computer science and electronic students. Next all students are concentrated on remaining things. Similarly, we are having practical list for second semester. So, there is a guideline given by the university, so as to cover all the topics. So, for each and every subject we are having a list which is prescribed by the university. It is not necessary that we have to follow that only, but it should cover those points. This is the main motto behind that, because actually what happened if the subject is new, the staff member used to conduct the practical as per his choice. So, they have given some list of practicals. So, we have to follow those or we can modify it as per our convenience, but it should cover those points. That is what, these are the infrastructure features that is available at our college. We are having this much laboratories, computer center, we are having latest configuration, FC coupling throughout the network, IBM rational rose lab we are having, dual core machines are there with license software IBM rational, 15 machine license we are having, AS 400 lab we are having with AS 400 server which was purchased back in 1994, multimedia lab we are having, embedded lab with latest embedded kits, software development lab. Again this year onwards we have developed, we have started the Cisco network lab in collaboration with J&U Hyderabad. So, as our syllabus is not permitting us or the students are not having that much knowledge about all the things. So, we used to conduct some extra activities at our campus, IBM rational training program we have conducted, then Cisco network academies, two of our staff members have undergone a training at Cisco and they are now conducting the classes for the students. The first batch has been completed, the module one, there are about 30 students are been benefited for that. Again dot net Linux certification course, advanced Java course we are providing for the students. Again last year some of the project batches they have make a survey for Wi-Fi and YMX to make the campus as well as we have considered our Pusat town which is a very remote place to make it as a wireless. So, the survey was made by the students and then again various we are motivating the students to implement the various algorithms which are been as considered as a research work as a part of their third year and final year projects. So, this is all about our colleagues, later part we will be explaining. Good morning everyone. I am Prashant Ingoli representing Professor Ramaghi Institute of Technology and Research, Badnira. This is again under Sant Agadwe Baba Amravji University, Amravati. My colleague Sohail explained you about syllabus, number of hours and scheme etcetera. I am going to tell you about the kind of question papers that are given to the student. Even before that I would like to show you the evaluation pattern. We have 80-20 division for that 100 marks of the university. University conducts finally 80 mark exam for which the 6 units of the subject. This is for complete semester like the 50 mark paper of the first semester will be divided according to this. So, theory attendance, we give 25 percent mark, 3 seasonal exams are conducted which are of the quizzes in nature and that comprises the 20 percent assessment and the rest that is 80 percent marks are the university final exam which is conducted by university. This is the scanned paper, it is not entered scanned directly. So, this is the kind of questions that they generally ask. First semester paper peculiarly has seen over the year that it is having more of theory and very less of programming, but as this again the scanned version of. Actually every question is having its optional part or part is there for every question. That is what the pattern we are having. As in the earlier discussion, professor Hattak requested that it will be better if the questions are given. So, some of the private publishers under Amroth University are printing their log of whatever papers. So, even unit wise questions per year are available. I would just like to show some of them. After the first semester and second semester, computer engineering students go for programming methodology as the next subject. So, where rigorous C programming and programming principles are taught. So, these are the papers related to that. I have nearly 6, 7 papers of different years and followed by that in their same semester object oriented technology is the next subject. So, these are again the university papers of various exams. It is marked here that this S6 stands for summer 2006 and these are the set of questions. So, they are unit wise collected questions. So, that when a student prepares, he can look at what kind of questions are asked on a particular unit. You mentioned that they are published by private publishers. Would there be an issue of IPR violation? No, because the questions are actually question paper of questions from the question paper of university. So, as long as I say that this is a question of this university in this year, there is no question of the private publishers intellectual property being violated. In fact, what happened is all engineering services exam and other books you would find, even JEE books, they would mention that this is a question appeared in summer 2006. As long as we accredit that there should be no issue, because that should be the stance that we will take. It is clear. Because you see, we are going to put everything in open source. Now, I don't want somebody in Badnera saying that my business you have done because you have put everything on internet. That will not happen. So, there are publishers, they are publishing it in two forms. Some of the publishers are doing the collection of question paper, questions related to a particular unit and printing it as a book. Others are carrying it as it is the paper and the whole paper per year. Just putting it to me. So, both of the forms, I will be able to share this with this workshop. I will put it. So, can you leave this copy with us? I have not shared. We can make this as a starting point of our effort. Yes. So, let us say this is the semester 1 CS1 paper. Then we do have the object oriented technology subject in third semester. Similarly, these are the code of university. 4, S, U, L, I stands for semester-wise pattern, electronics, industrial engineering, and IT. These are the three branches for which this paper is going to be common. And this is paper number 2 of that semester. Computer programming application. This is based on like both of the subjects cover the same thing. Object oriented technology and computer programming application, they belong to C++ language only. Since they are for different language, their weightage and enthrustment is different. So, they are having two different papers. So, this is the paper for object oriented technology and this is computer programming application for, this is for electronic and telecondition engineering, this is for computer science engineering. So, I will leave these papers with the conference. So, basically this particular slide concerned with semester-wise what different programming subjects students is introduced to like CS-1, CS-2, then programming methodologies and OOT in third semester, then data structures and so on. This is for same collection for the information technology department. Then evaluation of the practical, minimum 12 practicals based on the syllabus, semester-one evaluation is completely internal, students are not required to face external university level exam for this subject. In fact, all the subject and then semester-two 50 percent internals are given internal examination is conducted. So, it is again 25 percent weightage is given to their attendance, 80 percent attendance is compulsory and 75 percent for their term work like performance, showing output, recording it and so on. And 50 percent external examination where the tasks they have performed throughout the semester, they are given and external examiner assess it and award the mark. Apart from the regular lab session, students are encouraged to do some simple basic projects also at the second year level. I would like to, I would like to take this opportunity to convey some very important information which make our institute doing some efforts in this area, like our institute is the first in Central Asia to have optic fiber cable network throughout the campus in 1996. With the keen interest by our founder president, Professor Ramey, then education minister of Maharashtra, he contacted Professor Vijay Bhatkar. In fact, he belong to same locality, he is from Murthyapur, it is just 30 kilometer away from Badmira. So, with that relationship, he contacted and then we got Param computer again in 1996 only. Basically, students in final year were allowed to use it to do their project and that is how our campus was for the very first time introduced to Linux like environment at that time. Institute is proud to have successfully run the CDAC specialist diploma course at Diplomine Advanced Computing CDAC. All the laboratories related to computer are WIFI connected. It encourages to work individually by providing separate PC to every student during practical lab session and our labs, project labs are open even after the regular lecture hours. Thank you, sir. Any questions? So, this CDAC program that you run, does it also have a component on computer programming? It was basically all computer program. Yes, because this is nothing but the NCST's version of program. NCST's version, but CDAC is still running that program. The important thing about that program is they update their syllabus every six months. That is what I was about to say, that if you compare the CDAC syllabus which is awards only diploma and your syllabus, it appears to me that that syllabus might have some greater strengths in some respect. It should be called as a post graduation course, because I saw. In fact, many BE students, not only of other branches but even CS branches, I have seen them doing the CDAC program. They have struggled. The reason I brought this out is, should we not endeavor as being part of a university and college system where we specialize in education, whereas CDAC at best gives training? Now, education should always be at a higher level than training. So, should we not suggest that the university should upgrade its syllabus or something like that? I would like to share one experience, sir. I had been a chance to teach one to subjects there. So, generally, a semester long syllabus takes only 20 days in this particular program. Every day, they would give certain theory and then students need to struggle throughout the night to complete those assignments. Only part is they do it single or two subjects per 15 days. That is there. But otherwise, it is a very heavy syllabus. The second suggestion I would make is that if you look at the laboratory description that you have, some of the last, for example, Dominic's saying or many other people, I think their labs are far more elaborately defined. It might perhaps be useful to try and encourage that kind of definition. In fact, the university syllabus itself gives the details. Yes, but the kind of problems that are mentioned, they appear to be very generically mentioned. Whereas we would like to have practicals with specific problems and some sort of things. So in general, is it true that people would have anywhere between three hours or four hours of practical every week? So we can assume three hours? Because we have only two hours here. So two to three hours. We can assume that to be the standard. So this object-oriented program is actually your semester three and four sort of. Because you had a yearly pattern. So clearly the first course is effectively C programming. But does it not harm people to suddenly recall their earlier C programming and start thinking about arrays in the second semester after a large break? Yeah. It should be like that. What if a student fails in the first semester but passes in the second semester? How would you? That do happen, sir. That happens. This is a rather peculiar situation. I would submit that you might want the university to consider the following. Compress that syllabus. Reduce one course from first semester if necessary. So I think what you have done probably is that earlier if you had ten courses, you have maintained all ten, part one, part two. It may be better to regroup them at five courses here and five courses there. That is the correct interpretation of semester system actually. In fact, one autonomous university in Mumbai has a trimester system and their course space is killing because they have to finish everything in literally three months' time. Second year onwards it is same, but for first year they will consider this separation. The entire course into two parts. This is the syllabus that is available on the network. I would like to point out the ... We have two subjects in third semester related to programming. This is programming methodology. These are the contents of the syllabus, textbooks, list of programs. They are clearly mentioned here. You can see. These are the list of programs and it is available. Then we have the OOT subject in the same semester, fifth subject, object oriented programming. This is the subject. Then again, list of practical is clearly defined. We just took those ideas and wrote it as a list, but otherwise the university has clearly prescribed it. There is no ambiguity as such. Then we have a particular teacher is having freedom to select a theme and define some different tasks. Thank you, sir. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.