 we are at the top of the hour so I'll kind of begin informally here is what says as you were saying that's part of the point is that and I will talk is that I've been fortunate to be in a lot of different types of forums to see how people work together and how they don't one of the more interesting ones and okay I'm kind of beginning informally my name is Phil Youngblood if let's see if you happen to be somewhat newer to the science circle you can take a look at all our exciting events over here and you can also catch some of these if you search for them on YouTube a little bit later okay so anyway I've been in a lot of different situations where people work together and like I said sometimes not and one of the more fascinating ones was I retired military officer and I was in Somalia with United Nations and I was also part of animal staff at the Marines and the US Marines have a fantastic way of meeting together so that everyone involved feels like they're part of the group from the lowest to the highest ranks and everybody gets a good feel for if everybody knows what they're doing and it just it's just a wonderful way to acknowledge both the individual and the group and everybody's role and part in it and I haven't seen too much in civilian life to match it but I'm going to talk about some different ways that we do this together that are from several different disciplines in other words we often have presentations that are multidisciplinary and sharing about a group feel free okay so coming up here anyway let's take a look now a lot a lot of these are my own little devices here and if you agree or disagree or whatever let me know is I was thinking about it you know let's let's take a look at some of the definitions is a group is a bunch of individuals in other words we're a group here that's why you're talking about a group etc we're a group and the definition of a group is a bunch of individuals that have a common interest in the case of the science circle it's besides you know meeting a terror it's basically to foster open education in the sciences and but where science and circles yeah okay circular argument okay so but we're made up of the individuals and the individuals have different personalities and to start with of course they have different needs once the graphics at the bottom of this slide well and that that's exactly right you know you've just hit it on the head is that one of the things about the science circle is the reason I present it is I like to learn because I want to listen to you and learn from you and so that's why I like the conversation chat and stuff and you meet people from all around the world you meet people from different perspectives you have no idea who you're talking to until they start chatting or talking and and the science circle is a that's I probably can't quote it but basically we're a group of everything from science vetted scientists and educators to science enthusiasts all different walks of life and ages and such and so anyway on this slide if you're looking at a group a group is made up of individuals the present or the graphics on the bottom are from a presentation I did that says how do I live and it looks at Maslow's hierarchy of needs or wants and in some cases I think those are summer needs like physiological needs safety needs that sort of thing but some of them I think are kind of wants they're ones that we want to have as we have more experience with life you'll also note that Maslow never intended it to be a pyramid like that intended it more to be like the one on the right where you're continuing to have needs but like when you're a baby mostly it's physiological needs and then as you mature it becomes more psychological itself well okay that was my own device what I'm saying is that if you're just in a group like say for example it could be if you're just in a group and you're not working towards a goal that group could the common interests might be you know running a country or something or whoever is in charge of country and so if you're more toward the introverted side you tend to be less engaged with people and then is my voice breaking up sorry let me sit a little closer okay so you may be less engaged with people if you're more likely if you're more toward the introverted nature here introvert means that you are innervated by the presence of people that is not energized but it saps your energy whereas extroverted if you're with a group you tend to be an activist or on the far side you could be a dictator rather than a hermit okay that's just that's my own device you won't see any theories on that okay next okay but so I'm establishing oh okay I'm establishing and and I like the feedback too because I was kind of going you know dictator okay so any case now a team though is is a subset if you want to think of it as a group but it's a it's a group of individuals that are working together hopefully towards a common goal can be sneaky wow okay yeah but okay so so a team then is a group of individuals who's working towards a common goal they still have their needs and wants and such yeah it's not not as a period so I'm going to talk about three different areas of going from different focuses in other words one project management not not managers and leaders but project management tends to focus on work in other words workers are the same and people are the same and stuff now if you're a manager leader you can't think that way but essentially it's focusing on work whereas the worker has to constantly balance that's a little thing in the middle constantly balanced between their needs and wants and the needs and wants of the group in order to achieve that common goal so you've got in the middle then you've got the idea of being a member here again I'm kind of going over some concepts and so as a member then we want to in order for the team to be effective we want to look at the concepts and theories and stuff of team development okay so that's where I'm going that's kind of my conceptual framework for people that like research terms okay so let's look at project management first here again I've mentioned that project management is methods and theories and blah blah blah of how do we get work done as I mentioned when I was in Somalia on Edmonds staff and UN UN and stuff is that the consequences of not working together getting work done can actually be life or death whereas for in a company you're talking about money and time and before some of these things came together people waste a lot of money and time and on occasionally lives by not working well together so when for example when the SpaceX was launching their Starship I was thinking man there is a lot of moving parts here and I don't just mean the spaceship is a lot of people have to be working together to make this happen and the same thing I was up since early this morning about eight hours ago watching the coronation in the UK and I found and I was thinking boy there's a lot going on here that people have to work it together to make it look like it's effortless which it's not yeah tiny sliver of the upper right well you're right and in fact actually let's see I need to make sure I watch my hour here but let's go back to this one real whoops where is it okay you'll notice as Baradon says is that as you mature self-actualization becomes a more prominent part of your life because you found ways to meet the physiological and safety and that sort of thing okay so that's kind of where we're going on there so let's take a look at project management because what I do try to do is keep to an hour and I usually can do that because I got a lot of practice doing it uh no it's not at all um wow you guys are really hung up on that intervention okay but in truth you have to be aware of individuals and their characteristics and their wants and needs and the way they approach the world of world viewpoints and we'll be talking about that here in a bit okay so now we're on project management and in the concept of project management we have to look at project okay so project is a temporary job now by the way uh in the chat there for those people that are that are one of the reasons I decided to do this is because we've got this big project that we're working on um called uh project moon base and it involves a lot of moving parts as well and we're learning as we go along so so it reminded me of all these different theories and methods and such like that for doing projects and about people and team development and all the rest okay so let's take a look at some definitions here is a project is a temporary job that produces something like that on the left I mean on the right for example if it's a coup it's the overthrow of the government that may not be a product of service but that's a result or it could be a product like a spaceship or a service like um helping something okay which are in the lingo they're called deliverables because you deliver one of those and then in theory because it's a temporary thing it has a start date and end date and it's performed by a team now one of the things here I'm not going to do this for all of them but in our project moon base one of the things that's different and here again if you find something different please put it in the chat but it is in theory a temporary job but one of the things we don't have is we have a start date but we don't have an end date in other words we're going to continue working on it until we get tired or achieve something and so it's a little different in that regard now when they when we say management and I'm trying to put these into verbs is manage is um wow I'm glad all the chats going on okay is what you're trying to do is complete this project per the client's objectives in other words typically you're doing it for a client you're doing it for somebody they may not be even able to express all the requirements um which we call requirements creep in software development but in the moon base project we don't have a client so it's a little different in fact that's kind of why we're wrestling with the objectives because we kind of have to make it up for ourselves the project is for us at given constraints in the case of the constraints we're not trying to make a base on um you know mars right now we're talking about the moon we don't have a time limit per se we don't have a budget at all because that's in second life which is part of the advantage but we do have a staff so here again those are the types of things that I'm trying to consider okay so in project management you have the concept of a leader versus a manager by the way what I'm doing is first of all I'm doing multi-disciplinary presentation and I'm giving you several semesters of stuff all at once so if it's kind of overwhelming or whatever or if you've seen it before or you can contribute or you're an expert let me know okay so what's a leader versus a manager well a leader is more people oriented the leader the job of the leaders influence to motivate to enable whereas a manager's a manager's job is to go okay uh I know what I need to do so it's more goal oriented and the manager then controls uh they may still be a leader as in helping people and motivating them and stuff but the idea is to get the goal accomplished it's to control the process the work uh the people that are doing it that's kind of the difference there when we say model because I'm going to be showing model second life is a model for first life uh it's kind of it's you know a simplistic depiction it doesn't have quite the detail in fact the resolution is what one centimeter right as far as uh detail goes um it can create some it's it's a model for our minds and the way we envision first life and also things that can't occur in first life so you can see it as a model that way but in case it describes a reality or even unreality that's in our map mine I'm reading map okay so but a model can be used for instruction for software for writing a book cooking a meal almost any type of thing the things I'm talking about can be used for a lot of those things okay so where did we get project management well not that long ago if you think of the pyramids if you think of uh bridges uh a lot of that was actually managed or micro managed and you want to think that uh by the people themselves the sculptor the painter architect building engineers it wasn't until the 1900s where you started having some uh bigger projects that required a little more of a systematic way of doing it particularly larger projects in in the united states in the 30s during the depression stuff and then in the 50s after war two when we were real rebuilding the world we meaning everybody um and you had people like gantt come along and then there wasn't anybody named perk but perk means process evaluation review technique cpm means critical path method these came from both civil and from military approaches uh but they're still used today to be able to map out of how it is okay now a lot of this has been words on screens i'm going to try except for the first part i'm going to try to do a bit more visualization here okay so here we go is that uh anybody know what kind this is of course you do it says it in the lower left hand corner right i should have left that out and yeah okay yep gantt okay and taylor absolutely there are a lot of people that uh had a role to play in these now on here the emphasis on this is a gantt chart the emphasis on this anyway okay here's a question that i don't have an answer up there anybody know what the wbs is for this the next slide okay for you um people that have been in big projects if i possibly know what wbs stands for okay so anyway um what you have here is uh the activities and on a gantt chart what they're looking at is well that's a good point tagline and there's a lot of 1950s a big break and a lot of stuff so it's 1970 there's certain time periods that a lot happened during those time periods um big collaborative projects absolutely okay so what you're looking at here is activities that can be concurrent that is you could have several teams working on different ones at the same time so for example for the actual real return to the moon you've got space x working on the starship which a modified version will be used as the lunar lander you've got a space station that's going to be put up around the moon called the lunar gateway and then you've got the european space agency and nasa working together to get the astronauts to the moon so those are three separate efforts that in other words can be worked on concurrently whereas if you go on the x-axis there you've got the dependency yes it does it's and more than breaks it down now you're right linear the next one will be a little bit different than linear um but if you look at these you've got you can see their dependence in other words that wbs 1.2 has to be completed before you can do anything else and so that's dependent on that so if you're a manager or a leader you're looking at that carefully to see if it's done okay i gotta keep moving because i've got a lot to go through okay uh dns uh means work breakdown schedule there's also a process breakdown schedule but in this case if you're going to be on an airplane well and that's the problem sometimes a day is a lot of people want to just get out and build something but if you're going to build something that actually has a lot of time money risk all of that involved you can't shortcut it you've got to do the planning and you've got to put it into work in order to avoid it because that's where all these models came from was wasting millions of dollars in years by kind of skipping some parts and peter jerk is a good one to read okay so anyway if you're going to be on an airplane then it's broken down into these different levels you got the the the 1.0 2.0 3.0 etc up at the top and then you've got broken down activities okay now here's another type of chart that's a little different although you can actually turn these charts into each other i'll show you here in a second how that works is the per chart then defines the workflow you don't see the sequential you see a sequential left to right but you don't see the time like you saw in the last one what says at this point here this point there this point that but you do see the milestones for so for example in the in the uh Gantt chart you had uh WBS 1.0 in this case it's 10 20 30 40 these are milestones okay in chat anyone want to fill in what a milestone means in in work in in project management while i'm so anyway these define workflows and then if you want to get a little bit more specific about what objects you're working from in other words when you say airplane starship uh or yeah work back down structure um okay so if you want to get a little more specific then there are a lot of other little tools all software these days is little tools one called an entity relationship diagram so for example you can have an example of a student to a teacher or a student and then you've got a school in there and you've got books and you've got the bookstore and you got you know all of those sorts of things are all entities that are then related to each other and so you can get down into the weeds which you need to do if you're doing software and other things on here now let's take a look at how this can be turned into a Gantt chart essentially if you look at it you've got in order to get from there could be two concurrent things that are 20 and 30 work down the same time one take three months one take four months so you can see on that chart that there's about three pathways that you can follow and one of them takes three months and then another three months now you'll notice that uh how long does this whole thing take well it takes seven months and there are two actual critical paths which we'll see in a moment but one of them if you go straight from 10 to 30 to 50 you'll notice that before you 50 is going to take to get to 50 it takes seven months but uh from 30 to 50 only takes three months so you actually have what's called slack time now if you're a manager what that what you do is you take the people there if they have the skills or whatever and you put them over in one of the other teams so that they can make sure that uh that that gets done I mean there's a lot of different ways to work on this you like I said I could talk for semester's because uh okay and there's the critical paths right there because it's very complicated and I'm like I said I'm throwing a lot at you in a short period of time but I want you to get a feel for this okay not master it but get a feel for this stuff okay so how does the focus affect the outcome well projects since they're temporary often lead into other projects so you've got the project and you've got an output and that output then can well you're right Sumo and that's why the individual needs to be looked at who do you have on your team that can then both for their sake and the team's sake who do you have that then can contribute in the area where they're gifted absolutely that's part of a good manager or even leadership um okay so in here you'll notice that if there's a project and it has an output leading into another project then there's a lot of different ways that well and and I'm going to talk a little bit about personality here in a minute too because I remember I've got three things to talk about project management it's 25 after right now uh person uh excuse me team development and individual type traits and then also working online some of the peculiarities okay so in this one if you're looking more towards saving time and waste and all that or getting a good uh return on your investment then that then you're looking at one thing if you're looking at bottlenecks and making sure that the project is has to be done on time because perhaps the next project needs it at a particular time then you're looking at the critical path or bottlenecks you could also be looking at simply the positive benefits you could be looking at just what comes out you could be looking at the interdependence I mean lots of different ways of of approaching this now this is very busy but in project management we often have these phases which can be called different things depending on whether you're talking about software bridges or whatever but uh they got a lot to them just in the initial phase you're talking about different analyses and how things are going right now and what are you replacing and what what the client requirements and the resources and the resource allocation and the uh strengths and just stakeholders people involved I mean so much involved just in feasibility alone you're talking about do you have the software and stuff and computers or whatever to do uh what about legal issues should we do moral issues uh do we have the knowledge uh what are the benefits costs is economically feasible uh in other words can we uh pay for it over time or do we have to go out there is unscathed I mean so much to think about it overwhelms me just to talk about it so you'll also notice that uh since this began in earnest in the 70s in particular you've got a model over there that is good for bridge and it's good for something that you've done before of the waterfall model by the way if I'm putting you to sleep it'll get more interesting because I'll start telling you about people uh rather than work this is this this is right now I'm focusing on work okay so you got a waterfall model which basically you know you you you these big long contracts you sign it and then uh you'd better like in other words you're not going to be able to add another lane to a bridge once they begin building that kind of stuff whereas in these days in this century you've got more flexible types of models one of these is called the agile agile or scrum model this is pretty new and you'll notice that the waterfall model still works over on the right side of the slide versus in the middle the waterfall model is good for when the details are known or decided and when you don't expect a lot of change and you really can't have it and you've got and you need and you can keep this this team stable during that time so it's more sequential dependent that's it now today though they know well that's doesn't describe the real world too well um it's more like complex projects a lot of unknowns uh prototypes do you like it no I want to change it um working in little sprints like you know during uh a month and then you take time off that sort of thing and then you know that that's kind of how we do it today now that's also our moon project is more like the one on the left not the one on the right okay so let's figure which let's talk then about how that's about work focus so let's talk about it's about half through the hour um so let's then talk about um team developer okay um in Tuckman's theory from 65 and subsequent improvements not improvements but tweaks on that more or less you know everybody wants to write a paper is uh you have different stages and let's talk about uh four different stages one is the forming stage where basically you're getting to know people you're asking questions you're really not very well informed about the issues or the objectives and but you're trying to establish ground rules and uh boundaries for the project I mean and people and their behaviors and all that stuff like that and so in order to get beyond this forming it's kind of a dependent stage where it's task oriented in order to get beyond that you've got to somebody's got to take the lead and to create uh clear expectations uh to identify the goals um to kind of share a mental model to uh create leadership opportunities all that good stuff like that okay okay because what happens is even in good teams except for the ones that know each other one of the advantages we had in our sign circle is a lot of us have known each other for a very long time and so while we could expect to have kind of a storming stage meaning that people voice their opinions they may not be you know the the same ones uh there may be a little resistance or competition uh or emotions might get high because they're really want to get something done uh that sort of thing is that we were able to or are able to um establish group norms and kind of instead of uh and work out priorities and resolve personal clashes and all that good stuff like that so the next one that um teams may face sometimes they never get past the uh storming part it depends on how strong a personality is and whether they're willing to cooperate and stuff and so if you get to this stage a lot of times it's because somebody's taken over as a leader or becomes a leader and then you get some cohesion in it and so you're doing some reconciliation lowering anxiety setting standards taking responsibility for the success of the team accepting members uh for who they are trusting each other to be able to share uh potentially controversial tasks stuff like that getting feedback allowing transfer leadership uh that now by the way I don't have any single reference for this this is a combination of references that I kind of synthesize a lot of this presentation today is a synthesis like I said multidisciplinary um multi approach that sort of thing working from work focus to individual focus okay if you can norm if you can get to some norms within the team then watch out because now you can perform and so in in a in a performing team that's able to get over the um I'm reading tagline sing or shot yeah uh we still have a lot of trouble with that yeah so anyway in the in a team that's able to perform by now they are accepting of each other they understand they're working now towards a common goal it's more of a problem solving time more interdependence uh rather and you're working kind of in sub teams um so you're able to produce the results to get to the goal too and so people want to learn then more about the objectives and the issues and they're more open flexible um they expect a scent and they have norms uh to be able to handle them and so but in order to get there just like on the task management you have to or project management you have to be able to set aside time to plan to engage with the team leads the members um the teams can then perform without direct supervision and but in some cases the whole team then gets back together now bear in mind that it's possible that uh with new members new objectives new conditions that you may go back to some of the earlier phases and have to work through them and the idea here is to then uh celebrate your accomplishments and then decide and problem solve as a team learn from each other from each team okay now like I said the actual origin of this was a Dutch social scientist in Hofstad who was working for IBM and IBM at that time was a multinational corporation but they found that its individuals were very different uh and uh had a wide range of responses so he wanted to understand more about why and so he looked at uh countries now I'll get to that here in just a second um because it's very difficult to go to a country and say yep okay everybody who's Dutch is like this everybody who's Iraqi is like this you know everybody who's South African is like this but he did tend to classify countries by certain characteristics okay and it was a start it's still you know it's still referred to as a start okay the other thing like I said is the stages may be different than just going one stage to another stage to another just like in project management is different okay now take a look up here I thought this was funny this is actually back from early software development uh you can read it but yep okay and tagline if you read it there's a great uh three-part series uh called um uh you can you can find the whole thing on um not revenge of the nerds that's a Hollywood movie but there is a BBC special in the 90s called Triumph of the Nerds where it talks about IBM and their um culture versus say Microsoft or Apple uh and and the different cultures there were essentially yeah oh oh please it's it's marvelous if somebody wants to go there and give uh the link to the first one is that because I could do a whole presentation on how for example the hippie culture led to the technology we have today that'd be easy um and you'll get that in in that um uh YouTube video okay so anyway yeah this that slide will be manifested exactly okay but you get you know this is very funny for anyone that's actually done it but you get the enthusiasm and then the disillusionment and then the confusion and in this case since we don't have in our in our moon base once since we don't have a budget you don't have to necessarily search for the guilty or punish the innocent or whatever but usually it's the people who are non-participants that take credit like the bosses you know so it's I just thought that was fine okay so let's take a look then at the third part of the presentation I'm um 20 minutes left here is well exactly the moment you throw money is a little evil and I don't have to quote any religious source for that just follow the money okay so let's take a look then at individual characteristics one of the things that Hofstra did was he looked at different nations on different dimensions in this case um power distance which meant nations that tended to like if you're a professor versus a student they tended to see the professor as well above them and not answer or ask questions uh let the professor talk um copy the professor's work uh yeah it's taking notes still okay um etc well you know you know I could do I could do a presentation just on note taking in other words the the psychology and stuff of um hearing right processing writing reading again you know remembering uh all of that kind of stuff absolutely okay so um any case the individualism versus collectivism you'll see yeah okay it takes notes okay uh there's such a thing as saying too many notes okay so anyway the individualism versus collectivism look at the difference look at the difference in there you've got in the in the United States it's higher than anywhere in the world uh UK is a little bit below that is um on individualism that's why in the United States there's a lot of people that if you say something like socialism uh it it becomes a dirty word because the idea is you should not be dependent on other people uh you should uh do everything yourself etc that now of course that runs into trouble etc but whatever but you see the vast difference there between say China at 20 and the US at 91 and then in between and so you you just that alone if you've got a group of people from different countries um you have to take that into consideration now here it's not just in some cases individual nations it's part so take a look at this now this is actually from another presentation I did on how do we live and you'll see look at Italy it's a it's a rainbow it goes all the way from uh more of a uh collectivist or in other words social uh thinking of family and and and group first before individual down there in the boot of Italy all the way up to hard individualists up in the uh Poe River Valley um and the same thing with some of those others all the way from the UK very individualist to say uh northern Africa very very different just within one area but it makes a huge difference when you're working with okay then so also in this cultural dimensions you'll see for example power distance that is that if you've got a um Nobel Prize winner and somebody who's interested in whatever they won the Nobel Prize is that they might not even ask questions uh because of the power distance whereas other people go right up and go hey there uh doctors so and so uh I really like your speech on et cetera that kind of stuff uh same thing for uncertainty avoidance if we've got to say at the moon base project where hey the whole thing's uncertainty is a lot of people may be very uncomfortable about that or long term orientation in our moon base project for example we're going like okay this could last years and yet they're it depending on uh like in the United States there uh there may be a thing like okay if it's not done in three minutes like a commercial I'm moving on okay so um these are different individual type of characteristics um that you can that you can find now I also this is from some of my own work that I published but this is using Kelly's uh it's a two-dimensional followership model um extreme moderation um that's like extreme prejudice let's see okay so not everybody can be a leader and so not everybody can be a leader then you have to be a follower well how do you fall there are effective ways to fall and there's a not effective ways to fall if you're passive independent uh in the group that I studied you found that those are people that are more critical of their experience because they're waiting for directions um but they're also dependent on other people to tell them what to do and so other people are busy so they're not you know they don't get stuff done or they don't get what they want because they aren't telling you or you may have the other stream where basically they anticipate the needs and then they do extra tasks and all the way through that whole spectrum that you can read it uh as well as I can on that but um I'm trying to remember what Kelly this was okay so then let's talk about working online we've got 15 minutes um these are my little diagrams some like I said this is the research I did let's talk about school work internships second life science circle um all that stuff well uh you're right there are gone and the the advantages and disadvantages you could you can have something you can have a place as individualistic as the united states but the positive so the negative part of that is everybody's got a gun and if they don't like what you're saying they'll shoot you on the other hand uh they also come up with some very innovative ideas because they're not thinking like the collective culture or and they're able to say well this is what I think you know that sort of thing so there are ways to um yeah thank you christie there are ways to handle all of this advantages and disadvantages so you need to kind of put it together um and and and both acknowledge differences but also be able to work together as a team so let's take a look then at some different ways people work together in school if you've ever been either a student or a teacher which probably is everybody in the room um you've got what is expected as a student and a teacher and then the remote barrier in between is just something you've got a in other words I I'm talking I'll talk more about that in a second but you basically are overcoming this remote this uh barrier but you stood up the student teacher relationship regardless of whether they're co-located or not now same thing with work you've got a different relationship where basically the contract so to speak is work versus school and you have different roles called worker versus supervisor on different expectations and stuff um but then you've got for example you've got some ones which are kind of in between which you've got an academic internship where you've got basically you've got student okay which then moves over to the business if they can be co-located and becomes a intern under the supervisor and if the supervisor knows that this is a student over in the school then they won't treat them like a worker or at least some won't but if you have a virtual internship which is what my work was on it's like okay there's a lot of ambiguity in here they're missing the community in other words the people around the supervisor they're missing what the community looks like and the building and the work and the pace and the everything so there's it has to be a lot more communication in order to get things accomplished in a virtual internship now let's take a look then at science circle is the presentation i'm getting right now except that of course the audience is um a lot more spirited than your typical student and the power distance thing is definitely not here which is good because i like to facilitate i like to facilitate discussions not go hi i'm the teacher and you're the student okay um so you've got these presentations uh yeah really you've got these presentations and you've got the attendee and the presenter and we kind of get through the remote barrier in other words i feel like in the auditorium with the people now i'm facing the slide otherwise i'd be seeing people shoot spit wands or throw paper at me at the back of my hand you know um i don't think people do that anymore do they okay so anyway and then second life is our environment and then you've got uh teams in which case you've got a member and a lead yeah it would be although i don't know that you know we have physics engines so it's possible okay um i'll bet you i could i bet you i could do a spit one shooter with physical objects and a little bit of um uh scripting okay and so any case you've got that and then the science circle you've got members which back in the old days they said oh yeah you know tech is the limit in other words you can only do certain things email you can only do certain things on the phone you can only do certain things on tv uh that sort of thing back in the 70s but uh i don't know if any there's any teachers in the area professors whatever that have used quality matters it basically says i don't care what technology you're using um this is how you interact with the people and get things done so the discovery in my research was kind of to follow up on the quality matters is it doesn't matter what tech you're using it's the users that use that in order to create the team work together etc etc um but the other discovery was hey you know we're all individuals we approach things uh differently yeah penicillin was one happy accident there's quite a few other ones uh plastics i think was another one um right where you had interface between two liquids and it turned out to be really gooey and you picked it up and you know that kind of stuff plastics and then um we also have different expectations so for example if you came to this presentation and was expecting it to be i don't know a discussion um you only partly right because of the chat but if you knew in advance it would be like it is uh then great okay um that sort of thing okay so anyway um in summary then i attend this hey good so uh in summary then if you look at the whole thing compared to our group and teams the science circle is a group with a common interest our mission says that we uh our fist we want to facilitate open education in the sciences okay um the moon-based project then is a collaboration of individuals from that group and others that are working together as a team towards a common goal so it's not just participating like in here but it's working toward a common goal whatever that common goal is um so now there's three there's several ways then to approach it a project management then requires understanding whatever requirements there are as they evolve so for example in our moon base we're going okay well um we need to let everybody know about it okay so actually we did that we had a very good panel you can find that one on youtube too uh very good um discovery favorites that prepared my absolutely i should have that above my door here uh in in my high school gymnasium it said um luck is when preparedness meets opportunity i could still remember that but it's essentially the same thing um but you so we need to understand the requirements i mean the moon-based thing the requirements are evolving we basically said okay we need to inform everybody of our project so we had some a panel presentation a very good one that you can see on youtube that we did both at this time period and then also for the nine p.m uh second lifetime uh presentation and then we said okay we need to have something physical in other words we were talking about but we need to have something physical and so if you'll go over to the display right outside the amphitheater you'll see our first start uh also um siree's here and his team is in scripting and he's got over in his uh prototype area he's got a starship full size too and little moonbuggies and stuff like that which we need to have a link to so that people can go check it out and so there's a physical objects and we need and we're gonna have to do some planning in order to achieve the goal of building a moon base because we want to build it realistically but those are a couple that's the goal is to build a moon base and then you know right now we're doing it in stages where we're going okay how do we get to the moon uh lunar space station and then finally landing on the moon building a base all that stuff so we're trying to do it in stages the same way as in first life because we want to try to make it realistic so team development then can be messy because you're dealing with people you're dealing with individuals but if you have the trust and you're willing to cooperate you can get around those individual differences so that again the team can then work toward a common goal working online successfully then is about working together not about the technology you could be using the phone you could be using uh uh streaming video on youtube you could be using uh second life um somewhere there's music i think between somewhere there's heaven oh hi very cute tagline i'm glad it wasn't an irish limit limerick or a dirty one okay because i was reading it before i got to the end okay so working online then has to do with people working together it's not about the technology that connects them it's about people willing to use that technology to work together so the science circle and the moon base team then acknowledges celebrates the diversity reconciles differences uh that's individual members wow now we actually talked about that uh if you haven't been over to the other thing we're gonna have a tour in june um we're working on there every week the moon base uh well we don't have a moon base yet because we've got a planet but we have a work area in fact we have a couple work areas but we've acknowledged that we need eight different teams okay for you guys that are on the the the project i'm going to try to spell out the teams here i've got five minutes um we've got science and education because that's our um mission of uh of science circle we've got construction and scripting as those go together we've got psychology and ethics and we've got writing and outreach hey i got them yeah okay um partly because of that i could see the build that that we have but we've got all those different teams that all then have to work together and be interdependent on it okay so that's my presentation for today as i said it's kind of interdisciplinary it tackles everything from um models and of uh process of being work focused trying to get um about team development and then finally acknowledging both individuals and the idiosyncrasies of working online moon river la la la la okay well um sumo i don't think it's classified um i'll let me see if i can um in fact i know it isn't uh but essentially it wouldn't work here because uh essentially you've got a kernel in charge and what he says goes but he wants to know that everything everybody knows what they're doing and so you've got different teams that have to work together where essentially you can have somebody that's at a very low rank that gets up and goes okay here's what we do that by the way this is uh here's here's what we're doing here's uh the timing here's who we have to coordinate with people that ask questions they go well what about this have you thought of that uh etc and then the other team gets up and basically does same same sort of thing and the kernel listens and then at the very end the kernel says okay um this is what we're going to do uh here's the changes because of the weather resources or whatever and okay let's go do it and essentially that's the synopsis of how they do it but it's it's superbly done it acknowledges the skill of everybody it tests what they are doing when and with whom um um and then they go out after a common goal basically what the kernel says and they do it yeah well you're right um and a good team will do that they acknowledge the individual for two minutes uh acknowledges the individual it tests for um knowledge competency resources people didn't ask questions there's no judgment it's all working together because they know very well that their lives could be dependent on it uh they're all comfortable with what the other person says because they know that they know what they're talking about and they have the resources and they everybody gets question to ask um and then there's somebody who says this is what we're going to do and so uh to me that's the best way i've seen to do it uh colleges can't work that well okay after 25 years of um experience teaching in the university uh i haven't seen it work that well in a lot of places okay and tagline as usual has some very interesting stuff so i'm going to quit talking and i'm going to wrap it up and thank you all for coming and i appreciate it