 huge focus on occupational health and safety, but that would be a learning outcome. I actually feel better that the first contaminated site they're on. I'm saying don't touch that, don't smell that, don't go near there. So in so many ways it's so much more effective for me than just telling an abstract third-party story, experiencing it with them. So most definitely it requires a lot of the faculty in terms of vigilance and in terms of their agreement, see this as practice. Much more difficult to meet deadlines. So one of the challenges in a course is that you have a teaching and learning plan that you plan on on day one, so you have to cancel your trip. And then it's a snowstorm and the college is canceled and you have to move it again. And so the project you plan to have do on week five now has to be do on week seven because you simply physically couldn't get it done. A client may promise you something and they do their best, but they're the client and they don't get it to you. So data that you promise the students in week two becomes week seven. And so there is undoubtedly a much higher level of coordination and expectation based on the faculty when you're doing real experiential education with clients. But the reward is the employability and the stories of the students walking out of here in a job and the fact that I can claim as the program that it has the highest level of employability in any program of its type and the fact that I have grads coming back and offering internships is absolutely the reward. For me, they've chosen to come back for an extra year and if I can't get them in.