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Cos season one would have been slightly more regularity of seeing Andrew Bush for argument's sake. Where season two he's been written out a bit a little bit he's still going to repeat it. If you jumped in to the IMDB page you might see guest starring Andy Bush and you might ruin it for you. That is true. So just to clarify this is episode five of season two. Exactly. For all benefit of the IMDB page. Dave, there was no evidence this weekend. That's why we're all here smirking and smiling and looking ten years younger. But there has been a lot of evidence talk over the last few days. Takeover talk or investment talk or however you see it. What are your thoughts on it? How much attention have you paid to it? I think I've paid about as much attention to it as everybody else has for the most part. What I would say is that our current ownership is not ideal or indeed right as we all know. And therefore a change has to happen. So in that respect then this could be good news. But then again you look into it a bit further and to be honest with you. One might suggest and we'll be careful what we say here. But one might suggest and certainly not the thoughts of myself or indeed the podcast as a whole. But there are certain clubs and fans of different sides around the world for whom 777 have been involved financially. Who have apparently been less than impressed by their ownership. However you can't compare everything and different clubs in different territories and different setups and whatnot. So I don't know. The club has to be sold to somebody because it's going nowhere fast under the current ownership. So let us see what happens. But it doesn't feel like the dream scenario I think for one of a better term. The only thing that I would say with all of this is that bearing in mind the fact that Everton are in court next month. You know answering a series of charges. And also when we then look at obviously the resignations that happen on the board recently in terms of Denise and Ingalls is that the only positive that I can take from this is the fact that. If anybody whether it's 777 or anyone else is interested in actually purchasing the club. I would take as a positive the fact that they will have done their due diligence and that would maybe be a good sign for what is or isn't to come in October. Because if we were facing catastrophic news, then maybe they wouldn't be so readily interested in taking over maybe. Interest and safe. Is that positive? It was quite positive. I'm not known for my positive attitude. You know that. I don't know. I think it's a 50-50 Dave. I think sometimes you're very positive and other times you're real. I don't want to say negative. I'll say real. What are your take on the 777 involvement? I think the frustrating thing is it's the kind of model we've said we would like on the face of it. Someone who's involved in other football clubs. But you can't ignore the evidence out there. That evidence being what's being reported by other fans. I think you can only take on board other fans views. That's the best way of looking at it isn't it? A lot of fans have demonstrated this in Standard Leisure, the latest ones. In fact on 777 it was only in the last 24 hours that they were launching a bond scheme for Genoa to raise 5 million euros. For their training ground. And I know it's not as simple as saying they haven't got 5 million. There's a lot more to it. They're giving fans an opportunity to own part of the club. I get that but it still doesn't seem like a group that is flush with its own money. That is going to take the football club forward. I'm very wary of them. I think they just have a very poor track record it seems. And I think we would be jumping from the frying pan to the fire as they say. So it's a tough one. Worse than where we are already, Ped. I suppose that's a difficult question isn't it? And I support and agree with everything you just said. But in terms of where we are just now, is it going to be worse than where we are? The thing about it is Dave, I look at our football club and I think that we're not in a bad position at the moment. But I think it's a position, I think it's a position that can be quickly solved with the right people and the right injection of money. New stadiums is there, it's getting built. In the next couple of months, pretty much all of the outside is going to be finished off. It will all be moving into the interior stuff for the winter. And I just think to myself, if someone with serious money or a serious plan by the way, not just money, because it's more than just throwing money at a situation. But if someone came in with a really serious plan, I think they could say in this club round quite quickly. So I don't think it's case of saying that it's one or the other. Why does it have to be one or the other? Why can't this club be attractive to other people and what's stopping that from happening? Is it just Farad Masheery's running at the club that's putting people off or is valuation at the club? I think if we just had straight away people would install them to the CEO position, the chairman position, got a board that was long term. I think straight away things would start looking better for us. So I hope, well I generally don't believe these people have got the money anyway to buy the football club and I generally don't believe they passed the Premier League test. So I think it's a lot of noise, it's a lot of talk. Hopefully some of the people come out of the shadows at the last minute and put a serious bid in and try and take this club forward. I mean that is the interesting thing. Is that the amount of noise that 777 are making and when we think back to when Farad Masheery took over, there was a fella called John Mose who was making a hell of a lot of noise. The Padraise was he part of? Something like that. I think it might have been. It was him and another gentleman and they were making a lot of noise about buying everything football club. We're going to do this, we're going to do that and a couple of days later it was announced Farad Masheery had bought into the football club with the plan to become the majority shareholder. So I'm hoping that there are other well placed people who are looking at it, who maybe don't have the baggage that is being attached to 777 partners and who have the desire and certainly the wealth to be able to take us forward because it isn't a case of when Manchester sit and everyone always quotes city because that's the perfect takeover as far as took over, developed one stuff, whatever, whatever, whatever and the 118 charges they've got facing is a different matter. But you can't do that anymore as Newcastle are finding out now it isn't just about having 300 billion to spend because you can't spend it. So we need someone, not only that has got money but has got expertise or can get people into position with expertise to try and create and drive those revenues up so that the football club can develop and move forward and I think if you do that those people out there, Manchester United had four or five I keep saying it, United's biggest club in the world whatever, whatever, but three, four, five of them groups of people were ready to pay five billion pounds for Manchester United I think you know, a sum of like one and a half billion say cuts short ever now, you don't own the grand you don't own the whole club and you could give half a billion into the team over the next five years or something to say five or six years after finding a way to do it but if it was, that could put the club because of the structure now into a totally different place where you would start to develop and move forward so relatively speaking that's three and a half billion less already than Manchester United but do you think that there's perhaps plenty of people sitting there waiting in the wings monitoring the situation thinking that actually if Evan were to get relegated then obviously their purchase value would be significantly reduced that would be the time to come in and buy one of a sleeping giant type of thing do you think there's people there that are waiting thinking that actually the valuation today could be very different to the valuation next summer well even with the grand Dave I don't know whether you've ever seen John John Blaine who we have on he's very well-versed on business and every couple of weeks that go by the grand becomes cheaper because it's closer to being finished with means your outlay and right now if you bought Everton today you will probably have to fund the stadium in some way to finish it, listen it might be 10 million you'll have to put in it might be 50 million extra for the stadium whatever but if you buy Everton when that stadium's practically done then you haven't got that extra outlay to put in on the stadium you made a good point before there might be some investors I'm going to tell you what we're in the middle of September Everton have got that hearing in October let's see what comes out of that hearing and if what comes out of that hearing is all manageable and it's no case to answer or it's six points deductible suspended so that if Everton lose a big pot of money again that comes into play or if it's a 10 million pound fine whatever whatever it may be everyone will know exactly where they are there will be people I imagine who are looking at this the position seeing how far 777 get with Nishiri is it an investment is it a full takeover and they might decide to jump in and that's what we hope isn't it we've got to hope that it's someone who you're never going to get someone squeaky clean who's a billionaire who's it doesn't work like that does it exactly so there's going to be something but hopefully there are people there is a lot of wealthy people in the world as we well know but you don't often become billionaires by the time you're 38 and stuff like that by playing by the rules do you no it doesn't seem that way unless someone's left you in it and if someone's left you in it I don't want to generalise and say anything out of turn but that's kind of the way it works I think it seems to be doesn't it everything you watch and read seems to be that way in slightly lighter news I have to apologise because I've got the window open here and I've just noticed that the nursing home that's over the back of us is having their annual kind of like party day thing so they've just been playing the hokey-cokey well that's fine Dave all the way through that discussion of some quite serious financial you know you know sort of threats and all sorts of court hearings all I can hear over here is like put your left foot in your left foot out to be honest in out taken all about which is quite apt really to be honest Dave that's just generally my inner monologue anyway is it yeah most just gets me to the day you know what I mean just however it is yeah just keep it light when people are talking you know I'm just just like you're just a happy soul on your head just boundless fun in it well it's been a couple of weekends that I haven't lost for remember so we're all got a little slightly quicker exactly we could all be doing the hokey-cokey you know absolutely have you got anything else you add on the ownership thing before we move on again just time someone just move this along quickly please because I'm just these things just drag on don't they it's the worst thing it's not like you know transfers are bad enough the lengths they seem to take us takeovers Jesus they take forever yeah if we could win a few games of football it makes it all a lot easier doesn't it all that to say but it's just noise constant noise and there's no clarity is there from anywhere because everyone won't say anything far out this year he doesn't say anything of the best at times Andy Bush however has been in touch and this was with this was his question for us three today Bush here trapped in the office so I can't be with you guys you know what it's like I hope you're doing alright the triple seven thing looks a bit weird a bit murky not sure what you guys think about I'm sure you're discussing in this weeks episode my question for you today is this if Everton was to be taken over and owned by a character from a movie who would that be who would you like that to be maybe it's like a scary but slightly intimidating but gets things done owner at Dirty Harry or Emperor Palpatine from the Star Wars movies who would you like to own Everton from the fictional world of films so there you go Andy on the takeover tough it's good it's topical there you go fully topical so you want to go first if there was a film character who you would have take over Everton Football Club ideally who would you choose you want to go first or do you want to go first Dave or what is it I don't mind Pedd you want to go first go on Dave you go first okay I think it's a really interesting question that Bush is posed today and it is totally topical as he normally is I'm going to go more into the well it's quite filmic but it's more TV than film the first character I thought of was Logan Roy from Succession because he's a proper no bullshit kind of guy and I can imagine that he's not going to get pushed around by anybody I mean the irony of this whole thing is the fact that actually in what's this Alicia Uzmanov who we had sitting in the background is potentially the most filmic sort of scary kind of like boss character that you can imagine and there he was sitting there doing whatever he was doing and obviously three reasons that we won't discuss he's now seemingly not involved so obviously Logan Roy is one option I also thought in terms of clever finances and dealing with tricky situations Marty Bird from Ozark could also do a good job there because he's someone that's used to dealing with pressure from all sorts of outside sources and he's a clever accountant and what we would give to have somebody with an accounting background leading our club would be a dream a real boon if we could find somebody like that with an accounting background that would be the dream or you just go pure scary and you could have Hannibal Lecter obviously no one's going to mess with him or even on a more lighthearted note Hannibal from the 18 because this is someone who always managed to craft something really special out of very little in terms of taking limited resources and making that quite spectacular and always getting out of the shit every single time Hannibal from the 18 was your man there you go he could always fix it absolutely a bit Hannibal will fix it and they should have made badges with that exactly that and this sort of links that little thing you've just said together do you only think I'd say what Hannibal is do you really have an issue drugging people to make them fly on planes he didn't really have an issue he didn't have an issue there was no caveats there was no caveats I think that would be frowned upon nowadays possibly the world's gone mad I think it has you need to get to that place you won't go on a plane have you seen the price of train fare it's a bum it's all good exactly incredible let's move it along then so I'm gonna I'm going Bobby Axelrod Bobby Axelrod Bobby Axelrod always lovely Bobby Axelrod is from billions Damian Lewis is character in billions the ginger prince yet sadly a well-known Liverpool fan he is but I'm so much character and I just think he's ruthless he's horrible you're roof forum are you aware of this character Dave I've heard of him but I haven't seen it it's good and I just think he's got not only has he got the money he's got the expertise and he has got that ruthless side to get the job done and you need it in Premier League on the issue I've got with Bobby Axelrod is if he just doesn't like something he just goes right close it down and I just think that he'd be doing that five times a day with Evan that's what I was saying you're roof forum but he's horrible but I think he'd drive Evan forward and if getting together with UEFA when we're in European competition he'd be head of UEFA he'd be head of DECA in fact in the season before last he flew to Switzerland to get away from the authorities there you go he's got a tunnel pass in Switzerland imagine if there were things within UEFA or even FIFA that he didn't like imagine having somebody ruthless that could actually act and close down some of these flaws these organisations if indeed they were to exist so therefore for me he almost is the perfect character I said almost I didn't say he was the perfect I said almost so Bobby Axelrod would be my one Doc Brown Doc Brown to take us back and to correct a few issues correct a few issues maybe pay the rent if you want to go back that far maybe challenge a certain European band if you want to go that far maybe whisper into well he wouldn't have to whisper into anyone's ear maybe whisper into certain Spanish managers ear and said fuck off you've just been relegated you're not going to be the manager of my club what about going right back and saying to Hitler let's leave it haven't the quite good now let's leave this don't start invading because haven't the champions leave it maybe have a chat with Neville Chamberlain now that you bring up time travel it would solve everything it really would there's nothing that couldn't be made better with time travel and a little bit of excuse me I'm getting emotional just the thought what I meant was it's a fact it's a fact it's a fact it's a fact it's a fact I'm excited, I just thought you did Blach Lakes playing in the back now also no no no it's not what were you saying time travel being able to go back with the benefit of hindsight and correct all of these catalogue of mistake for many decades I think you only get one No, you only get one to change I would just go root one Stop Liverpool being made and I think then you dominate the city and then everything that follows on, one team, one city and everything's good. It's tough on that though because what is the only thing you will change, that's the thing. That's it, you can only change one thing once you start meddling in the past then you're done for. Oh would you just, you'd look and go okay well what about the European pan or what about the King's Stock stadium? That's like a temporal thing though isn't it? That's like something based off something that you could have corrected in the past isn't it? She's going to go back to source don't you? Obviously just eliminate even the existence of them. Yeah you just turn the computer on and off essentially because you reset it. Have you tried that? Have you tried just to reset it? I think half of your problems are solved there. It's an interesting concept. And balance as well. The other one I'd go for is Thomas Andrews from the Titanic film because he just basically knew it was going down and there was nothing he could do about it. He just said to Rose, listen Rose, we're done for. Just stop worrying about it. He's self on a boat and off you go. And then when you get that bit of wood hold on to it and don't let any bug again on it which is what she did. And I think that's the kind of leadership. There was room on that piece of wood. There was room on that piece of wood. It was a bloody piano. So why wasn't he on it? Why wasn't she letting him on it? I think there's a bit in that film where you don't see it. I know she throws the jewel in the sea at the end and obviously Britney Spears got it. She found it for her eventually. But Britney Spears is in Titanic. She's in the sequel called The Lusitania. Do you know I've never seen Titanic? What? I mean honestly it's one of those classic films I've never seen. I've never felt any need to see it because I know what happened. No, no, it's boss Dave. It is a good film. You think there's no plot twist, is there? No, but it's a good film. It's going to be like this shoppy film and it's not. It's got a bit of a mix of everything. It's good, it's good. Honestly it's good, it's good, it's good. Do you think I'm going to be a bitch if I watch it this weekend? No, listen on me. I think you watch it and then you can tell us what you thought of it next week. Pretty little ever social media. To be fair, Dave. I used to see how much I enjoyed this film. I was this age when I watched this film. I was just going to say it came out in 1998. You weren't even born, Dave? No, this is true. You know what I mean? I've not even thought about it. Exactly. This is made true. This is made true. How am I expected to even know about such cultural reference? Exactly, Dave. Exactly. So that's what you could do. So what I think is I think nowhere else you find it in the pocket at the end. And why you tell them? No, no, no. Whatever. I don't ruin it for me. Right, but right. How come I can't go forward? You don't need to go forward. Do you know what I'm saying? She has a very... I'll be honest, Dave, right? I'll be honest the bit he's talking about. It's not... It doesn't really matter. But I think what she did with that big... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think she went to pawn shop every month. Maybe. Pawned it, got loads of money. Like, you know, put it maybe on the stock market and that kind of thing. Ain't loads of money bought it back at the end of the month. That's a great time. And she knew if she did... So she was going to get her in and she knows how to maximise profits and create so income source. She died at the end in her sleep. I think. Or did she? Well, she's about 400. So she probably did. Is she 400, though? I'll see. Maybe we had the time machine. We could also stop the Titanic from crashing. But would it be worth it if we didn't have the film? Do you know what I mean? If you had the time machine and someone said you could stop the Titanic from crashing and you were like, yeah, but that would stop a botched film being made. Would you stop the Titanic from... Yeah, to save people's lives or to have a three-hour film. But don't forget we had a conversation once where if we went back in time on holiday I chose the Titanic as my week-on holiday. You did, so you'd lose that. Yeah, I'd lose that. Whereas you chose watching John Lennon get murdered. I didn't. I was being in New York for a week. Hang on. And it came out that... I was a really dark point. It came out that one person, one person's life or however many perished on the Titanic perd one to the witness perishment. It was a really odd show that, wasn't it? They weren't musical geniuses, though. You've got to remember that. Stop it, mate. How do we know? They could have been. None of them have got songs that come out of Christmas for a start, have they? They were on the way to New York. I've got no songs that come out of Christmas. John Lennon has. John Lennon has. He was deprived of it. And you watched them get made. He was deprived of it. He was deprived of it. He was deprived of it. People don't have no idea what it was. No, thank God. There you go. Thankfully. So there you go, some interesting choices of who's going to own Everton Football Club, because I think that was the question. It was the question. If we didn't choose 777 who would we have? Willie Wonker. I still think Bobby Axelrodd. Yeah, you're probably right. I think. Willie Wonker. We've shorted. Yeah. Lee Chelfor, Willie Wonker. Willie... It's... It's... You know... Which card? What do you mean, which card? Willie Wonker. I mean, which card? Who's Willie Whichkind? No, Willie Whichkind. I mean, is he another potential owner who's Willie Whichkind? There's only one Willie Wonker. Johnny Depp. Johnny Depp is not Willie Wonker. No, no, he's not, but I'm saying. No, you can say anything you want, but he ain't Willie Wonker. There's only one Willie Wonker. It's Gene Wilder. Yeah. Gene Wilder's the main fella. But he's the only fella. He's the man. That is fact, he's the man. This is the only fact. He's the man. He's the man. I did ask for some questions this week for us. Non football. Non football, of course. Just watch the comments. Of course. So there'll be... We'll do a few of these. Go on. Some will be one quick ones. So Andy's gone, would you rather fight one horse-sized duck or a hundred duck? That's my question. I can't have that one. All right. OK. We'll ask it because he's asked it. No, I mean, that's one that we... We've done this before. That was our question. They've nicked it off of us. A hundred duck-sized horses, though. Have we had that? No. That's the question we asked. A hundred duck-sized horses. Well, one horse-sized duck. We have had similar to this. Yeah. I'd go for the little duck horses. Makes sense. OK. There's a lot of them, though. But you can just boot them everywhere. Yeah, absolutely. It's all about being able to kick them. That big duck would just get you in its mouth and just swallow you home. And you'd be gone holding you. And just be like, I'll add you like this now and you'll put you in a pancake and put some hoisin sauce on you. And go, I'll add you like that, lad. It's a comment. I'll take you down to China town. I'll take you down to China town. It's a comment. I'll take you down to China town. You would. You would. Although China town would be living for years if it caused a big horse-sized duck. It's a quacken story. Brian Ball says that if a statue of yourself was to be made, where would you want it placed and why? It's an interesting one. Isn't it an interesting one? What's Ned saying in the background? Sorry, what? Ned said the Liverpool power league for you. Where they played last week. OK. This is in reference to the fact that Ned played in a charity tournament. Ned was dropped after the first game. Ned was dropped after the first game. I played every minute of every game accordingly. We'll say no more to save the embarrassment of Ned. Maybe one day he'll get his own podcast and he can tell the world what happened. I think so. No, Ned. It's not your podcast. The veil asks an interesting one. You haven't answered the question. What was the question? Where's your statue, Dave? Do you know what I don't know? Honestly, I don't know. It's a big question. I just don't know where I would put it. What would the statue be, though, Dave? Me? Yeah, but what would you be on the paddleboard? Of course. Would you have headphones on? Would you be... What car did you drive? Was it a kit when you did the charity show? No, I drove a night rider. A night rider? No, no, no. I drove the General Leaf. A massive racer. Night rider was one of the options, but I was in the General Leaf. You drove the General Leaf, which has got basically a massive racer flag on the roof. Yeah, but when you look beyond that, though, it was a similar programme. It was back in the day. It was in the early 2000s. It was in the early 2000s. It was way before that. There was some prehistoric times. No, no, when he drove the car. Oh, yeah, but when the show was on. The more educated now we know. But back in the day. That was in the early 2000s. But it still wasn't a big thing then. Now it's become... Racism wasn't a big thing then. More education, haven't we? I think that you can still be a fan of the Dukes of Hazard and the General Leaf without supporting whatever it is a Confederate flag stands for. I think you'd like that. Fair enough. The door's open, on it? No, you had to get into the window. You'd have to climb in through the window. They were welded shut. Otherwise, what's the point? I can imagine in the early 2000s you would have been more of an athlete. Ironically, I'm more of an athlete now than I was in the early 2000s. I've actually got better with age. That's the early morning though, isn't it, Dave? You were just tired. You were on the middle of the night. Just tired. I'm eating a bacon sandwich every day in six cups of tea. It doesn't make you look your athletic best. Bet you do now. I'm not even saying that, but I am actually invested in it. You've just said, you are more you go for a run, you're on your bike, you're on your paddle board. Stress-free. My status has just been outside of you. Just outside of you. What for services to toffee TV? What would your pose be? Like Rashford. And it wouldn't mean anything. I thought that was almost like a... Everton again. On my hands and knees with an Everton scarf on. Yeah. The Vile says the biggest myth about the city of Liverpool. What's the biggest myth about the city of Liverpool? That could get far too serious. I think if we were to explore that one. I don't know. That it's a friendly dabby. So you say that. Cos that you can pass that off quite easily. With out a gun. You don't want to delve too much into it. No, I don't want to delve too much. I don't know. The biggest myth about the city of Liverpool is that the way it's portrayed sometimes on TV. The biggest myth about the city of Liverpool is that the way it's portrayed sometimes on TV. The biggest myth about the city of Liverpool and I know that has improved. It's poorly portrayed on TV. It's very negative. Isn't it? I remember people coming up from London who were friends and that. They were just like, no, like Liverpool had these kind of houses in it and the city of Liverpool was like this. And you're like, why? Because you've seen boys from the black stuff in the 80s or something which is now an unbelievable sight. O bread. Do you know about when to school with my Auntie Edna? There you go. Filmed too straight away from where I lived. There you go. That was a terrible of Liverpool. It was horrendous. Martin Williams says, if you could see proof of one thing in history which has supposedly happened. I wonder what yours is. What would that be? It's simple. The assassination of JFK. Oh, so you just want to see a man die? Oh, what's he like? No, I'd like to just see the proof of how he died. So what? There's a story out today because this is how topical we are. There's a story today saying one of the Secret Service guys said that the magic bullet theory was completely wrong because he was there on the scene and he took it out the chair. So even today it's topical. I'd like to know what actually happened in the assassination of JFK. How would you know it? I don't know. I just want to know. There's a machine, it says yes. It tells you. I'm not clearly sure. So that would be mine. So what would be yours? Moonland. I want to be the head and just shave the flat. Who are these Americans? What if they were in Americans? I don't know. I don't know. I didn't say people haven't been. What's yours Dave? Give me the question again. This is from Martin Williams. If you could see proof of one thing in history which has supposedly happened what would that be? Noah's Ark. That didn't happen. No, come on. You don't know that. I know that. I don't know it. Do you? The animals would have ripped them to bits. Two by two. They wouldn't. It's how you train the animals. The wild animals. You're offering safety and maybe a bit of a scram. Of course you can train them. B, come here. Bs can be trained. I reckon with enough time you can train anything. They had a lot of time in biblical times. It went on forever. Moses was 812 or something. It was a long period of time. It only feels like it was a long period of time because it's in a big book. I think so. Pedda, are you potentially casting doubt on a whole load of potential theories that have been put through the great book? There's little things in that book that I just I'm not 100% sure on, Dave. Just a couple. I'm suspicious of. It would be good to get a bit of clarity on them as well. Sure. In the same way, clarity on the Bible and 777 is what you're seeking at the moment. That's what he's looking on right now. That's the thing that might wake him up that night. I think it's good to bracket them in the same question. It would be better than them waking me up in the middle of the night and just needing a piece of that. That's just because you're over 40. That's right. The prostate's growing, that's all that is. This one's a weird one, Paul. This is dark. Darker than that, that's what I say. Like me galaxy. Think of... It got there in the end. Think of the most disgusting person you've worked with. Now, would you rather sleep with that person and nobody but you would know or remember the encounter or not sleep with them but everyone else at work would believe that you've had including that person? Oh, that's weird. So would you want to... The thing is, would you... I mean, it could have been worded better as well. I mean, I'm not listening Paul's way to the... Sorry, Paul. The thing is, would you rather have a piece of mind in your own head that you didn't do the deed but everybody else thinks you did so Dave, you obviously are a bit like... Oh, would you rather have done it but no one knows and you're thinking... I did the deed that. What's the better of the two? It all comes down to PR, doesn't it? The end of the day. That's all it comes down to. Paul Robinson. Don't make you feel good, him. It's left in Dennis. I just think you find any excuse to sing a song. I loved that. It's a tremendous song. I think I just do the deed. Do the deed. I think so. It makes more sense, doesn't it? It does make more sense. Because the problem is that, you know, reputation's just gone forever. Actually, deeds can be forgotten about very quickly. Well, very quickly. The hardest thing for me in all of that question was trying to work out which of the dozens of disgusting people I've worked with over the years came front of mind first. That's just for you, Dave Weaver. That will all be in the tell all book. Tell all book. Vitty tells all. Available at all good books, though. And Amazon. A difficult second book. It's a tricky second one, but hey, it's all good. This one will not be pulped. Absolutely. Joe Haynes, moving on. Who was your first soap crush? Oh yeah. It could be a man. Who you fancied and everyone thought you were a bit weird. Joe was about seven and was in love with Amanda Redmond as Sandra Pullman on New Tricks. He's been very, very, very specific. New Tricks. Hang on. Why a seven-year-old's watching New Tricks? Like the theme tune, sing the theme tune. He was in it, wasn't he? That's a weird one, that. But a start. I think it would be Plain Jane in the Plain years. On neighbors. We see a lot older than you. She will be, won't she? Plain Jane was, you could tell. Does it have to be from soap, then? No, I'll make it anything. I mean, my first television crush, weirdly, this is a second reference of this potentially divisive programme that we've had so far was indeed Daisy Duke from the Dukes of Hazard. For obvious reasons. But in the world of soap, I think, but I don't think I necessarily would have been criticised for this or had people find it weird, but it was the Alessie twins from the equally formerly mentioned neighbours. Now, there was the two Alessie twins, but I would argue them. Obviously. That's how twins work, isn't it? That's like the parameters of twins as the two of them. This is the kind of clarification that we need. I would argue that one was significantly better looking than the other one, and I'm just now, literally, Christina. Hang on. I think it was Christina unless she was better looking. Both of them were attractive women, I think, but one just had the edge. This is live research. Let me just try to find out. It's tremendous research. Listen, as always, everyone now is thinking the Alessie twins neighbours. Caroline and Christina, wasn't it? I said Christina, didn't I? I think Christina was the better one just from memory, but until you told me then, I'd forgot they even existed. Gail and Gillian Blakeney, it was. They were the real artists. That was a weird thing because they were twins in real life. Again, Dave, that was what was really weird. That's really clever though, isn't it? It is very, very clever. I'm looking at them now and I can see them with pains and I'm thinking, they weren't really doing it for me now, but there's a great picture there of them with Don't let me get feel good with Steph and Dennis. Paul Robinson, there they are with Paul Robinson. They were sounder. I think it was probably Christina unless she was better looking. Leave this with us. We can come back with a definitive answer at the start of next week's show. That also serves as a cliffhanger. I think it's always good to actually carry something forward and where people listen and regulate and think, do you know what, I'm going to download this now. You've got to leave people on the cusp. You've got to. First crush, soap crush, playing James is a good one. A film, I loved Raquel Welsh in One Million BC coming out of the lake in that bikini. I don't know, sorry, I was wondering what you were going to say. In El Golfo and I've been there in Lanzarote where it was filmed. But are you saying people that would feed, no other people feed they were weird? People probably would have. I was like 8 going on, I fancy this 30 odd year old woman coming out of a lake with a, you know, a man. It probably was someone from neighbours. I'm thinking it wasn't no, it might have been Natalie and Bruglia maybe, someone like that. That's not a weird one. No, but I mean, yeah, I get it. So I've got to find someone that. Angon, you went with playing James. No, they didn't. Angon, playing James was basically rewritten as a film a few years later called. She's all black. When they basically got Rachel Cook, I think her name is, put glasses on and put her in a pony. Oh, she's the geek, she's ugly. You were like mate, if she took her glasses off, she's amazing. Well, nice looking. And that's all playing James. I'm going to go Rita from Corry. Fair enough. Do you want a weird one and it's not from the word or so? In cartoon? It's weird. Cartoon crushers, yeah. Is that weird? You've gone with the the rabbit from the caramel I've had in the past day. So fair play to you. Maybe I have a two dimensional look on life. It's all good. Let's move this on. Oh, you really like caramel? I do like caramel and toffee and butterscotch. It's all essentially the same thing, aren't they? Sugar. There you go. Mark Cotton Nick's brother says, do you believe in ghosts? See, this is a weird one, isn't it? Because it all if you get into the ghost thing, does that mean you have to believe in heaven and hell and all that kind of thing? It's just a strapped energy. There's something else. So why are they here and why haven't they moved into the light? Ghosts, having it on BBC One. I have, yeah. Do you know what? That's a great programme but I just didn't watch it regularly because it's weird because it is good. No, it's there. Because it's just the horrible histories we've found to the next level. Have you watched it, Dave? That's funny. If you've got 25, 26 minutes. I need to watch Titanic first. Ghosts is easier to watch but you get yourself a cup of tea. 26 minutes. 26 minutes. Fine, okay. But it's funny. You never give me the fin. Have a little think. Do you believe in ghosts, Dave or not? If I had to be pushed on it and do a quick 50-50 yes or no, I'm going to say no. But I think that is largely based on the fact that I have never to this day had any kind of paranormal experience if that's the right terminology for it. And obviously many people in this world have had paranormal experiences and that obviously shapes their viewpoint of whether they are real or not. So I'm going to say from my point of view, no. Do you believe there's anything else? So it doesn't necessarily have to be heaven or hell. But do you believe there's anything else other than this world? Because there's more and more. Talking space here and other life forms. No, no, like when you die is there something else. No, I think when you die that's it. I just think that you turn into dust and soil and that's it. I think, you know, which I know is not a particularly imaginative or romantic view of the afterlife. But that's what I think it is. Fair play. I mean, a lot of I know there's a lot more evidence to say that there is other stuff now. It's going to be able to go. I don't think it's ever going to be able to go. There definitely is. You'll find out when it happens. Or you want one or the other. I'm going to go yes. I'm going to spice it up a bit. See, I do believe there's something. I'm not sure what it is, but I do believe there's something else, whether it's energy or whatever, whatever, whatever. And that can translate to what we would say is a ghost or something going on. Definitely. Why not? OK, why not? You know, why not? I mean, this is the beauty of debate, isn't it? Of course, of course. Steve Kelly says, if you were single, would you go on a date with an alien if you believe aliens are real? Would you know it was an alien? I think that's what Steve's saying. I mean, would it look like an alien? I mean, would it have three eyes and green skin and stuff? Well, staying on the... No, I'm going to say, can we imagine it's... Like a hot alien? Can we imagine it's like V? They were lizards. They didn't like that. What about in the film My stepmother is an alien and the alien was played by Kim Bison? Yeah. Is that OK, isn't it? I think we can make the call now of what the alien is like. I wouldn't go on a date with an alien if it looked like an alien, would I? Of course your business wouldn't like you anyway. No, if we were single, though. So if I was single, maybe Mrs said, look, we've had enough, we're going our separate ways. Shake hands, all good. We'll keep seeing it for the kids and all that. Keep it nice, right? For the kids. First alien turns up and you're done. First alien turns up, but if the alien turns up and it looks like ET, I'm not just going to go on a date with an alien, cos I'm not going to find ET attractive. ET's got a good personality. I'm so shallow. You need some kind of attraction now. There's got to be an attack. I've just been married for so long. It's the right height for you. That is the good thing. I'll actually feel a little bit bigger than ET. Take me home. Exactly, they are quite forward. ET wants to go home. I'm forgiving you the finger. Proper pointy finger with the right end of it. If you're into that, you'd have a fine time. You'd be alright. You should go with ET. Just check that for us. Cos I keep going to bog four times in the night. ET can get it right up there with its little light. If we're saying it represented a form, male or female, whichever you're up for, that was attractive to you, but you knew it was an alien. Why not? Equal opportunities. I think so. We're all broad minded men, aren't we? I think you have to open your boundaries to all sorts, really. Of course. Alien encounter, why not? It depends where that encounter ends up. Exactly. It'd be a little bit alien to us, but we'd try it out, wouldn't we? What do you think? Mark, we've short of answers. If you could find out the answers to one mystery, what would it be? For example, who killed JFK, you've done that. Are aliens really just done that? Or has Ned had a girlfriend? I mean, each again, just on the alien thing. I'd like to know if Ned would allow an alien into his bed. It depends what they look like. It'd be worrying cos the alien would probably take his place off him in a footy team first. Felly comes down, never played before, just takes the place off him. When you say alien as well, how do you define that? It's not just someone who isn't from St. Helens. Hang on, is it not from St. Helens, or is it someone who is from St. Helens? Right, okay. See what you mean? It's a double-edged sword, isn't it? What I'll do is the ones that don't read out. I'll keep these for next week, okay? Colm Vorgie says, what is the most useless kitchen utensil? I've never used the most useless kitchen utensil, so I wouldn't know. Cos everything you use is obviously useful. I've got a brilliant thing at the moment. Like a little box, and then you do... It's got the little guillotine on it. For the veg. I got me Mrs a few, and she's seen a few on Instagram. Just a little bit. She was absolutely... You'll be dating an alien in no time. I'm building up to the alien. She loves it. She's got the slicer. She's got the thing where if you're shopping... But are you getting off a Christmas or who this? No, one more forward thinking than that. The most useless kitchen utensil... It's the sort when our kitchen that we don't ever use, but it's there. Like a rolling pin or something? Is that a utensil? That would be a utensil, so if you don't bake it, that would be useless. I would say a rolling pin. But for someone like me mum, she bates off. I've never used a whisk. A big fan of a colander, though. Our colanders are essential, I'd say. Absolutely essential, Dave. Erm... I think that's enough of the questions. No, unless you've got something to finish. I haven't. I just feel... You can't sell people short. We've got four minutes left. Have we got four minutes left? Glen says if you could have won an animal as a sidekick, what would it be? And why? Nobody can have the same answer. Be a dog. Like a real animal. Or like a cartoon animal. Dave, goes back to cartoons. Does this and I'm just trying to clarify? Cos, you know, I think you'd rather somebody like Scrappy do. He's a 25-year-old man. You know, we've got a lot of time on his hands. He likes cartoons. OK. So you've got a dog, which is the most predictable answer. Of course it is, because it's the best. I'm going for a monkey. The only one for a monkey. A monkey, but do you not think they'll be difficult to control? Potentially take over. No, not a chimpanzee. He ain't taking over. I think he's going to take the limelight from you, Bass. No, I don't think he won't be a sidekick though. Chimpanzee is a chimpanzee. It's not a monkey. You want to shine in this double axe. You know, I just think that the monkey could take over and actually cast you into the shape. You end up being the monkey sidekick. The monkey then got the statue outside. He'd have the finger lights up. It's bum, not you. Again, again, that's right. You'd just be there holding it's hand. Yeah. Listen, if that happens, I'm prepared to have a go. Did be doing experiments on you, not the monkey. Listen, fair play. If that's how it all develops, then that's the way it is. What would you have, Dave? A cat. As a sidekick. But they shit-tiles us. I quite like their independent spirit. They do look at themselves. They don't do look at themselves. Yeah, but I think that actually with enough training, they could be made to work as part of a team. I don't know, you know. You can't train a cat. You can't train a cat. But I think what they do is at some stage, right? At some stage, they'll just turn on and go, ah, I can't be asked. You might be going into a two-person job and the cat just goes, nah. Did you just have a dirty protest and get off? Hm. OK, let's finish on a light and our final question of the day. I'm sure it's something. If you could choose one other job than the one you are in, what would you do if you remember it can't be football related? Yeah. Hostage negotiator. Really? Yeah. It would be stressful though, wouldn't it? Not really, because I'm not the hostage. I mean, whichever way it ends, it doesn't really matter. You still get paid, don't you? Exactly. I lost 12. But the good news is that I was on overtime and it took 14 hours to do it. Double bubble. OK. Dave. I think it would be something involving cars and driving, like a test driver for some exotic stuff. I think that would be my dream job. Fair play. Why are you putting the funny face? No, I'm just listening. I'm listening on my maths. It was definitely a funny face. Do you think, Fred, do you see that? Well, like what Dave? Go on, tell me. Give me an example of it. An example of what? That sort of job. Of that job, yeah. Of a car reviewer. Of a car reviewer. Dave, I'd be worried. You'd be jumping over bridges in the south of America, in the south of America. No, the south of America. East south of the States. East south. While getting away from a little small man in a white suit. Will he have Daisy Dukeson? Will he have anything? Who knows? What would I do? One other job. Astronaut. You'd work at Disney. That sounds like the worst job in the world. No, you have to be happy all day. It's all kids, it's baking out. You've got to be happy to everyone and nice of them while they're having a great time and you're just walking around. Chat show host. There you go, chat show host. There you go. I've got a chat show host. There you go. We'll do that. Let's leave it there. We'll keep some of these questions for next week as well. It's all good. It's flew by as always. As always. We will be back next week. Take it easy. See you later. Bye.