 Oh, no. Oh, now it's live. It's live now. It's live. Now it's live. Hey, everyone. No Also, thanks to you guys for carrying the show without me yesterday. It was a very dramatic day Yeah, I heard I northern California. Yeah, my mom was worried her house was gonna burn down It did not yeah, but isn't this kind of late in the year for that stuff up there or is No, it's right on time because it's like the end of the summer before rain start again Because you know that state has been drying up for three months Sorry, I have a question about the IRC I'm getting a Google error Notification like this might be a malicious site on IRC dot DT NS dot TV. Is that normal? I have never seen because I use I use pigeon and I just log into the but I log into I Log into IRC dot chat room net, okay, I'll try that Just in case I have not seen that Warning before either okay, that's you know, it's the one on chrome that tells you careful You're going to dangerous dangerous places All right, well, thanks bio Cal Oh T2 T2 is saying that He set up the HTTPS, but he might have missed a few domains. So Yeah, T2 T2 I'm guessing that might have something to do with it. Basically it was telling me it says HTTPS But it's not secure or you know something like that. So maybe something got messed up there Chat realm is not having the issue though. Yeah, I didn't have any issue Shout realm once I get a little bit better at this. I will be chatting with you often It's very hard for me to do that during the show at this time doing both at the same time honestly I I don't do it. I usually glaze over at some point during the show Yeah, the problem is is like no matter how good of a multitasker you are It's like you'll be like answering someone's question in chat and then you know someone on the show is like and what do you think? And then you're like I was making in chat. Yeah, it's dangerous That's what I think. What do you think? Right, we were like Um All right, cool stuff. Tom is trucking out to New York in a couple of weeks It's good. We get to talk about the YouTube thing anyway. Yeah, I agree Right, I figured I you know, I might like throw in a little something about like on a similar vein You know some Twitter news today, but nothing of yeah too much detail No, I think yeah, it's it's probably the kind of thing that we can summarize in like a minute and a half right back and forth So even even though I liked the idea of having a discussion about it. I thought hmm. It's just sort of Yeah, right on the yeah, it's like so ripe for someone to be like, oh, I hate this topic Why'd you do this with Tom? Yeah, that stuff is And I understand where you guys are coming from initially but just Experience wise those things quickly can run right. Yeah, and if you dance around a subject too much, it's like well, you know It's pretty obvious to talk about it. You know that kind of thing you kind of almost can't win. That's true I think I think in this case, there's a genuine valet tech angle to it but It's yeah, it's so on the verge of politics that I think it's probably best if we don't do it when Tom's not here Yeah, I'm doesn't even do it when Tom is here. That's right. I you know keep them. I Mean and yeah, but by by which I mean if Tom was here, we wouldn't be doing it anyway because some would say it's kind of politics But I think Tom would frame it in a way that works for the show, but I know I would be tempted to go a little bit outside of The comfort the comfort box. Yeah, it's like a sentence and you start saying it and then you're like, oh god abort so for people who are watching the The video feed we were wondering with Sarah's we were preparing the show if we could Talk about the YouTube story about what they're changing in there. What's banned in what's not and Facebook and Twitter having to deal with all of this and And so usually as Tom often explains in the show he stays away away from politics big and Stays focused on the tech angle of those stories when he chooses to do them and so Sarah and I were debating would we Manage to stay on the bright side of that of that line And I think our conclusion was we're not a hundred percent Had another later date perhaps It was funny. I actually am everybody has been so supportive and cool about me joining DTNS and a guy on Twitter Tweeted at me the other day and said, you know, I'm really happy that you've joined DTNS And I think it's really positive, but please leave the politics And I was reading did I do did I do something and he was like, no, but just don't I was like, okay, all right Word message has been received Although, you know in some cases especially when it comes to things by the FCC I mean, it's I mean, yeah, you can leave politics out of it But inevitably politics is wrapped up in sure. Yeah, I mean, you know net neutrality Yeah, there's definitely but I think what Tom does really well is that he keeps it even when there's politics involved He centers those questions around the tech aspect of it. And why do people, you know, tech wise think that this would be better than that? And and that's something that I might not be as good at doing But um, yeah, I think I person. Yeah, what are we are we good or good to go? I Think we are all Good everywhere. If you guys want it's we can start three minutes early But that's totally up to Sarah at this point. I just need to pull up Well, I mean unless that's something we do normally we we can start on time Whatever Yeah, we don't want anyone to say later. Hey, why'd you start early? I usually jump in at 130 It's looking like Roger. It's looking like we might do our DTNS labs Experiment with Scott on Thursday Okay Thursday, so it's that's what it's looking like at the moment. We'll see But like you're releasing on Thursday or you're just gonna record it Thursday or record it release it I your I'm gonna send it to you. I do. Yeah, Tom Tom I got to pick Tom's gray matter on that because he has an idea of how this is all gonna work I only have an inkling of exactly what he thinks So that would be that would be the first one that would be the inaugural DTS net DTS labs It will be the first labs Yes, ooh Exciting, maybe it could be a Sunday episode You know Tom has thought about stuff like that again. I'm gonna have to have to interface with his gray matter to I know it sounds kind of odd odd But although we are technically that's what you would be doing interfacing with his gray matter through Eyes ears and mouths That's all really Thankfully just the three I'm guessing I mean, I don't know. Maybe there are other Things that would happen. Maybe smell sense of smell. Yeah, but no, but I'm assuming they would do it through You know Skype or or that kind of thing Thankfully, no if you were to meet that was Throne in with the Cortana Skype integration Yes, I threw I threw I threw the two Microsoft stories together and I threw the yeah, I saw that Oh when Microsoft store Cuz it's confusing for everyone else So what I'm gonna play the music after you give the yeah, if you say to find out more head out to Daily Technus show Yep, I Got it So let me know when you're gonna start so I can actually start recording So I'm running two recordings one the whole audio for the patrons and then one just of the show, okay I'm ready. Okay, so I'm gonna start recording in three two Daily Tech news show is powered by you to find out more head to Daily Tech news show dot-com slash support October 10th 2017 I'm Sarah Lane Tom Merritt is out today. He's traveling back from London He will be with us tomorrow, but of course as usual. It's Tuesday. So I've got Patrick Beja with me It's the first time we're doing the show together without Tom I know it's like, you know, the monkeys are running the operation Exactly what kind of I think you know, I can lean on you. You're you're a regular Of course, we have our producer Roger Chang as well. Hello. I'm here to help hopefully help I think you will I think you will all right without further ado, let's start off with some tech things you should know Apple's released iTunes 12.6.3 with support for iOS 11 The version is meant for enterprises that still need the version that contains the App Store Which is pretty helpful that was removed from the most recent version of it Wait, didn't we do that news yesterday? I mean, didn't you guys do that news yesterday? I think you did maybe I'm wrong Well either way either way that is good news for the people who still need that who we of course never think about when we Talk about these new evolutions of those products Twitter's head of product Keith Coleman tweeted Monday that a bookmarking feature a way to mark and save tweets for later Viewing without having to like them is coming soon to the micro blogging service And of course everyone on Twitter started saying we don't need that we need edit. Just In VR news due to slow development in the VR market Nokia has announced it's stopping work on its Ozo VR camera And also laying off 310 staff positions cuts will be seen across Finland the UK and the US The company also says it'll focus on patent licensing and digital health care instead Kind of which everyone said wait Ozo Ozo. What that that was a thing. Oh, alright Well, I guess you should focus on licensing not to be confused with Orzo, which is delicious. Okay on to the rest of the news Today Nvidia announced the drive PX Pegasus, which is the new embedded computer designed for level 5 autonomous driving now Of the five levels level 5 means a fully autonomous system that expects the vehicle's performance to equal that of a human Driver equal or better the board will feature to as yet unannounced AI ready GPUs powered by an Octo-core arm processor among other specs Nvidia claims that the drive PX Pegasus will be capable of 320 trillion operations per second with a combined memory bandwidth of 1 terabyte per second So pretty robust dev kits for the new board will be available in the second half of 2018 and in the same vein Velodyne which makes the industry standard HGL 32 or 64 Version LiDAR sensor announced that it's up in its LiDAR sensor production capacity by more than 400% Really going all in production rate at its very large mega factory It's about 200,000 square feet has been ramped up and the company has doubled its headcounts So basically Everyone's all in on Autonomous vehicles The the Nvidia thing is really interesting because well first we have to say I think level 5 autonomous driving is very far away if only because of Regulation and maybe they're gonna start appearing as soon ish in like very controlled environment But environments, but but it's not like the big thing that then video is counting on and video is really counting on becoming the name for computing in Autonomous driving and that's a bet they made a couple of years ago I think they first announced their platform in 2015 and that's proven to be a really Important area of growth for Nvidia and that's basically now they're considered to be one of the names You have to count on in that area. I think it's a really smart Calculation for them when only a few years ago they were making GPUs and that was pretty much it It kind of reminds me almost of the 4k discussion from a few years ago where every company was like 4k compatible We know level 5 autonomous driving scares everybody and we haven't quite figured that out yet, but we can do it I would also if it's If they're not saying, you know, we can do level 5 which I'm guessing they will you know in a couple of years They will release another board that will be like this one like it's so much more powerful It can like really do level 5 but saying you can do level 5 is sort of hints to potential Clients companies that if they can do level 5 Level 2 which is probably what we're going to be seeing in the near future is like cake. It's super easy for Kind of forces everybody to catch up if they weren't ready to in the in the in the start Hulu announced Monday It's ordering for new digital for new original eSports series from ESL an eSports network also creating Original content like reality series and documentary series focused on the world of eSports shows include a debate show called player versus player a Documentary series following the team immortals called bootcamp and a chatchol called defining moments and a recap show called ESL replay I'm especially interested in the ESL replay, although it's only for the ESL which runs Specific games, but I've been wanting something easily approachable that summarizes eSports for a long time And there isn't really that kind of show on on the web, which is Weird, but they're starting to test it so that's good I can see where a network particularly like Hulu who you know wants to have original content hits in any realm Really, but you know eSports is clearly extremely popular. Oh my gosh You can draw a crowd, you know in person and online, but they the tournaments To me kind of tended all look the same, you know, it's like watching some sort of a sports event So trying to figure out. Okay. How can you tap into the fact that so many people love this genre? Which is still kind of defining itself and it not always going to be like a spectator big Overall in an arena together type thing Makes sense to me. I don't know what that show looks like. I actually have a friend who's uh Who's a real eSports aficionado? Yeah, not just for fun, but you know kind of in a career sense I said, do any of these shows sound like Super big hits to you and he goes, you know They sort of sound like what a network does when they're trying to figure out how to make a show that people will like, you know Yeah, but I Don't know. I I mean, I'll check them out certainly at the beginning I think you have to have an interest in eSports to be interested in those but the big I think Drawing point of these ones is that they're not as like moment Specific as a big competition. Yeah, of course, you can watch a match, you know The next day or the next week, but it's not quite the same thing these ones sort of did couple from the excitement of the exact exact moment when the match happens And it's it's a lot of different Kinds of shows so they're trying things in the area of eSports Which is really really popular and they're trying very different things in if one sticks then they can develop it further So I think it's probably a good idea to be doing it It's not the most expensive shows they're going to be paying for so that's also another factor Right exactly. It's kind of a novelty thing at this point Like can we put together a reality show where It is quite formulaic at this point because there are so many characters involved in the eSports arena Absolutely, you know, if you can do that then you got yourself a reality show Whether or not it's all about eSports is another question indeed. Okay, Microsoft news Microsoft has begun rolling out is Cortana assistant for Skype on Android and iOS So new features will allow chat users to do things like ask Cortana for flight information Or what's the weather or give me some directions as well as pop up contextual responses for event-based chat conversations Microsoft also announced that the SDK for the windows 10 fall creators update is now available The update the update brings new features to Microsoft's mixed reality experience as well as a new design language called Fluent design as well as new features for monetizing apps and games According to geek wire the actual os will be released to windows users next week And then rounding out Microsoft news the company officially has rebranded the windows store to the Microsoft store Which is probably a good thing considering that They're backing off windows phone the windows thing might be kind of on its first flags of sunset Did you see the yeah the the joe bel fury saying yeah windows phone word kind of not? Yeah, so I'm using android. That's what I'm doing It was it was interesting what he said about you know not being able to get the apps That was really what got them the axe. I think you mentioned that the tommy Veronica mentioned it on the show yesterday, but uh the cortana thing I think really smells of we need to get cortana is in as many places as we can and I'm not sure Skype is the best place to add cortana to in that you know context, but They they really want to have people start using that even if they're not using windows. I suspect Not a lot of not most people use it on windows in on on desktop computers or laptop computers in general So trying to sneak it into more places on other mobile platforms might be a good idea I'm not sure I'm going to you know start skype To talk to cortana though Well, and I think it also is it's really playing into the people on skype who are chatting with each other You know in an i.m. Kind of a way rather than Doing what we're doing right now where we're doing like a video chat because skype is used by a lot of people that way I mean, I know Oh, yeah, sure quite a few companies use skype as their kind of inter Company chat platform. It's extremely annoying and buggy In my experience anyway, but I could see where cortana would be less invasive If you've got you know, almost like a facebook messenger sort of a thing where it's like you can interface with With cortana if you need to do stuff and you're you know, you've already got the app open While you're kind of chatting with other people and it's not too invasive But honestly, I mean we use google hangouts for dtns. I haven't used skype in uh quite some time Oh, I use skype all the time and I guess yeah, some people use it to chat I'm just not sure people will use it in that way on ios and androids since you have so many You know different applications trying to get your your dm time, you know from whatsapp to Uh to messenger to twitter to I don't know, but I guess yeah, I'm sure some people do use it so Uh youtube announced it has banned bump stock videos demonstrating how to modify semi-automatic firearms To fire more quickly as part of its expanded community guidelines a youtube spokesperson stated the change now includes those videos under its prohibition Against harmful and dangerous content in light of the mass shooter in las vegas using similar modifications Well, yeah, uh, this uh was inevitable. I would say, uh, there was Sort of a related story uh coming out of uh twitter today that um one uh us congresswoman She had an ad that was deemed um inflammatory content inside the ad and that ad was banned So I think yeah, we're starting to see instances where and probably based on The amount of community outrage around it Starts to force companies to say okay. Well, uh free speech and all but we you know, we have our limits and there are certainly exceptions Yeah, I think it's there's a real shift in public perception if I I don't I couldn't define exactly when it it happened or when it became Powerful, but there's certainly a weight leaning on the tech industry And tech companies If you look back 10 years ago, I think every voice in the tech community would be More freedom, you know more freedom of expression more freed and we shouldn't have anyone try to censor or you know Those things that we're censoring now. I think would have been Defended a little bit more strongly a few years ago And uh even I think myself I've sort of changed my opinion a little bit You know, you have the even for these for example the standard response would have been In the tech world when there's something is out there. It's going to be out there So it's kind of futile to uh try and squash them and make them disappear But now I think people are saying maybe in uh light of the power of youtube to Control copyrighted content, you know What's the name of the id thing? I can't remember my brain fart. Sorry, but basically they get Fingerprint video and audio and they can find it Doesn't mean that they are going to completely remove some content from their platform or the internet But I think the public pressure is now sure we understand you're not going to completely remove everything from the internet But you should probably do something about it and directing that That that direction or that uh, you know role to those tech companies when I think a few years ago It would have been well wait for us to legislate on this or wait to have a judge's Uh decision to do something now definitely it feels like the uh, uh, yeah the the public opinion is You are responsible for this I'm not a hundred percent sure. I'm comfortable with making them responsible for all of this, you know the tech companies the youtube's and the facebook's um, but certainly they they now have that role and I'm even personally more Um understanding of the reasons why so Circling back to some autonomous news again The office of the inspector general reports that the us postal service is working with the university of michigan college To develop an autonomous rural delivery vehicle with plans to have it operational on 28 000 rural routes by 2025 Now the vehicles would be semi-autonomous Which lets the mail carrier sort and deliver mail to roadside boxes But being able to take control of the vehicle when it needed Researchers will finish a prototype by the end of 2017 with a planned 10 vehicle pilot fleet in 2019 Uh makes perfect sense to me I I certainly I I actually really like my local mail mail carrier. We've become friends So I you know, I think that there's certainly still a need for a human to you know, kind of be sorting through stuff, but this is Kind of a perfect next phase for autonomous vehicles, I would say Yeah, certainly and and this is semi-autonomous So you're still going to have someone there and I'm guessing For a while you're going to need them to actually deliver The mail they can't fling it to to your door. Although maybe that could happen as well fairly soon But this is the kind of thing I can see Autonomous vehicles or semi-autonomous vehicles expanding into Relatively rapidly. I mean if we're looking at 2019 2020 Certainly a lot of different people from a lot of different industries, but must be thinking Maybe autonomous vehicles is right for us and it's going to start of spring up everywhere as a you know, I don't know it's not going to be like The iphone where one company created it and it sparked a movement in a radial manner It seems like autonomous vehicles are going to start popping up everywhere in smaller Ways and you feel you think the rural market, uh, you know, if you're going to be testing A vehicle where there's probably not a lot of traffic or certainly, you know at certain times of day You've you've you've maybe got a little bit of a wider berth. That makes sense too. I think that's probably really attractive Um for companies that are building out technology like that All right to get all the daily tech headlines each day in about five minutes Sort of a companion piece to dts. Subscribe to daily tech headlines dot com All right Patrick before the show we were we were trying to decide What our big discussion of the day was and I think we we hit on the head when we came across this story that wells fargo Announcing today that more than 40 that's like 5,000 wells fargo atms will now allow customers to perform transactions using NFC NFC of course is that's happen pay technology that apple pay uses and red pay uses in samsung pay Wells fargo has its own bullet for android op that uses NFC. It's it's it's a real standard Uh NFC ready atms will feature a contactless symbol decal kind of let you know that that that they will support NFC on front and you kind of hold your device up to the atm in some way That's probably going to make sense And then you get your after pin code and it's kind of the standard process that People have seen with NFC technology and grocery stores and stuff like that So I'm just gonna More than 40 5,000 wells fargo atms huge bank across the u.s I certainly use a wells fargo atm even though it's not the bank that I my primary bank Because it's because it's convenient and they're everywhere But patrick I thought this was actually a good kind of Chance for us to talk about how mobile wallet Disparity exists across different markets. You're obviously in france I mean are people using apple payer and repair samsung pay in in any significant way that you're seeing kind of change the market honestly in france, it's kind of uh difficult uh to To to get even to even get apple pay um We're getting a We're getting it into some banks like there might be one or two banks now that have apple pay um, it started maybe a year ago something like that and it It's really hard, you know people have been using uh pin code uh visa cards for a really long time and A lot of the people are really used to those Methods of payment if you want it's kind of weird because we still use checks Uh, I don't know if you guys wait hold on you guys still use checks. I was I was ridiculed yesterday When tom was in london and he was speaking to The british audience assembled when I mentioned that in america Some people still use checks to pay their rent or you know, maybe to pay the odd gardener or Delivery guy or something and I was ridiculed that I think I've gotten my share of ridicule uh as I was traveling and telling people we still use checks Maybe I should specify we have checks issued from the bank, but not many people use them and Less and less people use them. I think last time I wrote a check it must have been like two years ago So it's not a regular thing for most people. Um, so we have those checks on one hand And uh, we have the the pincode visa cards on the other And those are really popular. We use the I mean visa. I mean credit cards, obviously We also don't have the same kind of credit cards that you guys do It's not really credit Maybe you can get one that will be withdrawn from your account directly At the end of the month sometimes you get a little bit more credit, but that's it You don't get like usually most people don't have a credit card company that they need to pay at the Whatever end of the month. So the the the uh payment Panorama is really different at least in France and I think in most european countries You're not gonna have as much Of that, you know, I can get 10 million credit cards and I'm gonna choose which one I pay with and then I'm in debt For the rest of my life, you know, those kind of things With that as I was saying Uh, apple needs to of course, uh partner up with different banks in order to Offer apple pay or you know, I I'm sure it's the same for android pay or samsung pay And they haven't been doing that or haven't been managing to do that Quickly enough for it to be interesting as I was saying I think there's one bank that offers apple pay right now and maybe two And I'm not at either of those At the same time and I'll end my part of this answer on this What we do have is contact less payment with You know our credit cards and those are only up to 20 euros. I think they're going uh higher to 30 euros very soon But this is surprisingly popular And it sort of handles a lot of the Issues that apple pay or any of those other payment systems were going to tackle because you just pull out your credit card Just bring it close to the payment terminal and you're done And I thought it my reaction was like, well, how much longer is it? You know to actually input your pin code and also it's less secure if you have contact less and all of those And now I find myself being annoyed when I have to you know waste Seven seconds typing in my pin code to validate a payment So for for those it's a very competitive market for you know, it's funny Patrick it's like the thing about something like apple pay which is which I've used just because I have an iphone but When it set up correctly It is really convenient. That's sort of the funny thing, you know when this what I read the story this morning I joked with you guys in our slack room. Gosh, that only took seven years, you know for apple pay to start rolling out Not only apple pay, but you know all ethnicity technologies, but it hasn't actually been seven years I think um apple pay was introduced in 2014 samsung pay and android pay both came along in 2015. So it's not as if This technology is but sitting dormant for all that long but at the same time I wonder why it's not in more widespread use because It is pretty nice I remember at some point I had to my atm card that was connected to my apple pay account When I go to this grocery store that supports it Or regularly my my the bank they had changed my Number and so I had to like Redo it in in my app and I kind of felt like that was a hassle and I just never did So now i'm just using my credit card like usual. It's it's it's interesting that it does it does fulfill a convenience need certainly But I think it's one of these industries that's so Engrained as kind of working a certain way and you know and having a piece of plastic that you use and you know We got our chip card readers now that um People didn't haven't really flocked to it and you know, it's not because it's again hard to use. It's just It has not caught on Like I thought it would have at this point I think you know the thing is it's not hard to use But it doesn't bring you enough convene additional convenience that you're going to make the tiny extra effort to actually use it Right, you know you had been using it and then you just stopped Even though you could have continued by doing a tiny little thing to re-enable it, right? Well, I'll interject just because my dad run runs a restaurant and they take credit cards Oftentimes the credit cards will download the cost of implementing that to the to the merchant, right? And so from the merchant's perspective Yeah, I can do this and make it easier for my customers But I'm going to get docked for like a higher percentage That the credit card company or payment company is going to pull from what I sell So instead of just taking, you know, the average maybe seven or eight percent They're going to take 10 percent or they're going to take 12 percent That's money from my bottom line And so you're going to be a little more hesitant to do it Especially if you don't have a fat enough margin to cover things like that I think there's certainly some of that that comes into play. I I think there's also Uh, possibly the banks that aren't pushing it as much as they could because at least that's the case in Europe In Europe the banks are trying to get that market before apple does You know, they want to get into the mobile payment In the to to lay the foundations of that so that It doesn't become yet another market that apple android, you know, google and samsung have commandeered So I really think they're making things very difficult For the tech companies and they're trying different things They're not working either but in conjunction with the fact that Customers Don't see the benefit of going through the tiny hassle of setting things up It means that things are standing still and I fear that things are going to be standing still for Quite a while because just no one has an interest in seeing well None of the big ones the big actors have an interest in seeing it move Faster And At daily tech news show dot reddit.com And of course facebook.com slash groups slash daily tech news show is where you can keep up with us as well Got some messages for the day. I'll go ahead and start us off from steve hayden who emailed us about yesterday's show He says it's an excellent show. Thank you Always fun to hear the perspectives of other parts of the world like the uk france australia new zealand Mostly into speaking countries, but hey, it's a start We appreciate that steve says, uh, we're talking about star trek to stuff right now In the u.s. It's a cds all axis deal In other markets. It is in Netflix original Steve says this is good. Do people like it? Sorry sarah. You're you're sort of uh Cyborgging on us. Maybe I'm gonna Yeah, I don't I don't know what's happening The lack of tom is making it difficult But so he was saying mostly english speaking, but that's a start love the main discussion But though they get star trek discovery on netflix. Is it still good? Do they like it winky face? I can relate uh more to uk than france or maybe uh can relate to australia or new zealand But they are still different god bless him Tom thanks for talking uh taking us along on your trip um So I guess the question is about star trek discovery and uh, is it is it still good if it's on netflix You know, I didn't really understand that whole controversy about star trek Not being available to everyone because it's on like it's only available In the u.s. On a paid service, right? roger Yeah, well, it's only available on cbs all axis and cbs is the parent company That produces the star trek Show for for tv paramount still has the rights for doing the movies, which is why the movies take off in a little different direction um And I think I think what what steve is wondering is there is there anything missing or added to the netflix Version or is it the exact same show? Well, no, I mean obviously it's it's it's the same show um In general if we expand uh the the scope a little bit I've been loving the fact that these big networks. Well big networks these internet companies have been getting us those shows 24 hours or often less After they aired in the u.s. It's I've I've I have uh, I'm in finland right now So I have access to hbo nordic. I have netflix and I've been watching star trek discovery I know some people have qualms with some of its You know subject matter how war like it is But I'm just happy I can watch it, you know In before I would have needed to do I don't even have tv reception I'm a cord cutter and I don't know how I would have gotten a show like this in Months or years past now I can just get it really happy and we get it Same day in france. So if I stay away from twitter for Three hours in the morning when I wake up I can get to it spoiler free and that's really really good Are you back sarah? No, you're back. We can't hear you. Oh my god. Oh, no, what's happening? That is Always the jinxing of the show when tom is not here. That's why we don't let tom travel people I know that's what happens But while sarah sorts that out patrick tell us what's going on over with your stuff at french spin dot com Well, you know what? You can check out my stuff as you said at french spin dot com I do a number of podcasts. One of them is about games. One of them is about international news and different perspectives on that news Um, I hope you go check them out, especially the one about venezuela, which was Published a few weeks ago, but that's a crisis that is kind of still developing And if you want a little bit of context we talk to someone from venezuela who's currently in colombia who had to flee And that's available at french spin dot com the show is called the fideas club and you can also follow me on twitter Oh, yeah on twitter and then I say the name of my twitter account. That's not patrick All right, sarah arc. Can you speak? She can speak but we can't hear her there's no audio That's okay. She did a fabulous job and I'd like to say I'd like to thank say I'd like to thank all the patreons who've Supported us not only over these past few months, but since the beginning Your support allows us to do the show that we do add free And uh, uh, you know target toward the your specific interest of technology news now our Email address is over at feedback at daily tech news shot dot com We're live monday every monday through friday at 4 30 p.m Eastern 20 30 utc at alpha key radio dot com and diamond club dot tv and our website is daily tech news show dot com Tomorrow tom is back along with sarah who will be joined by raj do from australia This show is part of the frog pants network get more at frog pants dot com Diamond club hopes you have enjoyed this program All right, excellent. No still nothing nothing what That is so weird I think it's your interface your you the The mixer or the the box you're using the interface your mic um But if you're not while she works on that Have titles um, I recorded the show as well roger, but i'm afraid I had the uh cyborging Yeah, I I don't think any recording Would have would have uh Hope to that but I like to say again. Thanks to everyone for helping us out today. Um Let's go on with the titles while sarah works on her mic male bots roll out That is of course an allusion to optimus prime of the leader of the autobots issuing his order to his fellow autobots to March or roll out on their automotive forms uh skype's the limit for kartana wwtd what would tom do Uh, when the tomcats with tomcat I've never heard that when the tomcats away Because aren't tomcats what you don't want uh jolly roger avatar That's my other avatar and that's what I needed to get into the chat room to record Um, the mail bot pings twice The mailman won't ring twice soon Goodbye ozo lair Orzo was better than ozo New twitter feature. No not edit button Nvidia takes driving to the next level and video pushes. I like that one ships Wait, new twitter feature or the nvidia pushes roger kartships nvidia takes driving to the next level Oh nice Where did that go? Oh Where is it? Oh, yeah, we have it's second Keep voting everyone keep voting we still got time Okay, have it now Yes, we can hear you. Okay, so here's what I did Made no sense. I had to stop google hangouts like three times and then the third time I got that weird little mute thing down in my windows recording devices settings again, which wasn't there all day It is truly a ghost in the machine All right, I think you need to start burning some incense and you know what I'm gonna do, um I think This laptop is cursed Um, and I've it sort of grown on me So I keep wanting it to work because it has a lot of well inputs, but I'm just gonna I'm just gonna use my mac Well, I mean you you got it brand new or used Uh, it's not well. No, it's brand new I'm just wondering if you know, it's been very very lightly used by the person I bought it from but but not much I'm wondering if we just did a fresh install of windows Well, I mean before I got it it we did that so I mean literally the only thing on this machine is like slack You know, uh chrome. I mean Very basic things that I'm using for the show. I don't use it the rest of the day I use my macbook with someone using it as a part of a seance ceremony previously. I sure hope not Can I play my cats Seems like so that I could blame them for wait, do they play with your do they like walk? No, they they show no interest in in anything broadcast Related except to be in a stream Um, all right, let me get your your your vote on this Four top titles we have right now in video takes driving to the next level Mail bots roll out when the tomcats away and Skypes the limit for kartana or the number five is uh, the mailman won't ring twice soon Uh, I kind of like the mailman one. I'm not totally sure how much sense it makes. Uh Uh, what was the kartana one? Uh, Skypes the limit for kartana Oh, like the sky got it very clever. Um I like that one I mean the one about tom being away is fine, but it's like we can't make that joke every time tom's away. Yeah Uh, and I think that joke's been made once a show without merit. Yes. It was that was a popular Uh, every time tom was was uh, not on tnt, you know the community would be like show without merits perfect We're like well, but that's we already did that um So you like skypes the limit for kartana. I like that All right, what what say you uh patrick I Like nvidia takes driving to the next level, but All right, and no no we have a tie everyone in the chat room decide between the two Yeah, let us duke it out Or don't I guess Oh, oh skype's the limit for kartana racing to the top Oh Someone has someone has fans in the chat room. Oh the video still tie again. One needs to beat the other Who's the nvidia person scarf people from the world? unite Oh damn it Skype just went up by one point. It's okay scarf people we can we can make it All right, uh I agree with the chat room that a show without merit being suggested Knowing that it won't be chosen, but because its tradition is totally All right 10. Oh skype's the limit. All right. I'm going for that one. It's done Sorry patrick the voters have spoken that's and I have I have uh, I have uh, yeah Awesome. All right, I'm gonna stop the broadcast. Thanks everyone for joining us again. Tom is back tomorrow Along with sarah and raj From Australia. So when he's on he'll be like 7 a.m. His time he'll be tomorrow For thursday His time so maybe I might hit him up for a lot of numbers if he could go through the newspaper over there Um, yeah, or just to know what the future holds Yeah, even if it's a few hours ahead a few hours can be it's still magic Far as I'm concerned All right. Thanks everyone. Great show today. Thanks for tuning in Bye