 Disgwp y Fy yw'r cyfnod y byddwch, y cyfnodol sydd hynny i'w gwych yn cael ei gweithio'r cyfnod, y LlyfrID ynghylch yn gwneud a'r cyfeirio Gwylian Cymru, ac mae'r cyfrannu yma i'r cyfrannu'r cyfrannu. Cyfrannu'r cyfrannu yma yw'r cyfrannu a'r cyfrannu, rydw i'n ddweud y byddwch yn ymgyrch, ac mae'n ddweud o'i meddwl i'r cyfrannu yma. Aron, maen nhw ydych chi'n gwybod? Mae'i gwybod nhw yn gweithio gyda'n ddborfod roedd y tcynfodwyr, Mr Peter MacDonald, yn cwrwm y ddiwedd creatures. Dw i'n fwyaf i chi. Baut yn gweithio, Mark Knight, rydych yn ddodfodd foto a mynd i'r gaelio'r argument o ddif iawn ddychser. Rydych ni eisiau embeithio'r ddifoe ar hyn? Rydych chi wedi amlwl iawn ddifogaethol hefyd? Mynd i chi wedi'i gaelio – yna'n ddifogaeth yr hyn. I was declaring interest. I am a trustee of Overday Centre and they are one of the applications that is from that body. So I won't contribute to the discussion on that time. Unless I'm told I can. I think probably you can comment but not vote. That's correct, yes. So you are able to take part in the discussion. But not vote. And just to be aware, have you discussed this item with any of the other members of the organisation? Thank you. Is that anybody else? No. No, unless you are directly voting. Sorry, I didn't press the button. I would like to declare that I'm not a member of the Swayfsea Parish Council but I am aware of this application. Thank you. And I have one which is a noble community hub and I'm a director of that. So my declaration is non-pecunary. I can answer questions and maybe I won't be taking part in the vote. Yes, Chairman, you're not always very clear when you're speaking. I think it might be to do with the screen. Agender right on number three. This is for the minutes of the last meeting which was on 30 April 2021. That's on page one of your agenda pack. Could we go through that as normal please? Which will be heads up in corrections on page one and page two, page three. That's okay. Is that okay if I sign that off? Thank you very much. Okay, so now we're going to have a quick change for the members of the public and others out here. We're going to have a change of order at the moment. So we will go to agenda right on item number five. Yeah, six. Agender right on number six is the community chess funding applications. That's page 19 of the agenda. We have an officer who is slightly delayed, so they're just doing a quick swap round. Do this business first, then we'll do the agenda items four and five last. Okay, so community chess funding applications. Vicky, is that your good self? That is me. Yes, thank you. Okay, I'm over to you then. Thank you. Okay, good morning councillors. So, yeah, we'll kick off with the normal community chess applications, of which there are only three to ease you all in gently. The first one comes from the Hardwick Network, which was established in April 2020. It's a group of local volunteers offering support to the village during the COVID-19 pandemic. The project is called the Hardwick Party, and this will be a community festival to be held in September. And it's organised through a committee of representatives from various groups within Hardwick. For example, the preschool, WI, parish council, sports and social club. And the application comes from the Christian Fellowship, who are also part of that committee. They want to have a party to celebrate the easing of the lockdown restrictions and bring the community together following the isolation that the pandemic brought with it. Now, they have stated that the cost of the project will be about £6,000. But despite my request for more information on this, a breakdown of the cost, they haven't actually got back to me with that. They are asking for £1,000, but they have not detailed what they intend to spend that £1,000 on. Again, I've written to request this information. I had hoped it would be back before today, but sadly it hasn't. Councillor Chamberlain does support the event. He thinks it will be really good to get the entire village back together after the last 18 months that we've all had. And that's kind of it. It's a bit of a sort of bare bones application and probably one that could fall in either part, more of a COVID one, I think, but they applied through the normal route. So that's the Hardwick Party. Okay. Thank you. Vicki, members? Claire? I'm just wondering why it costs so much. £6,000 is a large sum of money for a post lockdown party. So that's my first question. And unfortunately, breakdown of cost haven't been provided. And also, I'm a little concerned that we don't know how, where we to grant £1,000. We don't know how that would be spent. So I think really, personally, I would like some more information. Thank you, Claire. Sue? I would agree with you. I just feel that we don't have sufficient information. I think it looks like a really interesting and good project. And in no doubt, with more information, we will support it. But I really feel no at this point. Bill? Thank you, Chair. I agree with Councillor Staunton Ellington. And yourself, Martin, yeah? I agree as well. Okay, thank you. So would members like Vicki to go back to the applicant and request the information again, perhaps bring that to the next meeting, if that's acceptable to everybody? Yeah. Okay, please, Vicki. We're going to decline or defer it at the moment for further information. But if you could express our desire that the information is quite key to these recommendations. Thank you very much. Thank you. Okay, moving on to Tevesham Colts Fetwell Club. We have support from Councillor Staunton for this project. Tevesham Colts is a CAMSA affiliated football club offering football to five to 18-year-olds. Established in 2005. Currently has 21 members, which they are intending to expand to 16 next season. It's an integral part of the community, supporting children, encouraging mental health and physical well-being. Not only for the players, but also social inclusion for volunteers, parents and families of those involved. They've had some recent refurbishment works down to their pavilion. The football club needs to purchase a storage container for their equipment while this work is ongoing. To have this container will mean that they can continue to allow youth football through the pavilion refurbishment stages. The club do require planning permission to site the unit. At the time of writing this report, it wasn't sure if they actually had that planning, but since the planning application, since this application, the planning permission has been granted for the full refurbishment of the pavilion, but they were advised to take out this factor of the storage unit, but they have since resubmitted that as a separate request. The group have attained a quote for a storage unit, and that amounts to £2,500. They have also applied for funding from clubs in crisis, but they have not stipulated, despite my requests, how much they have replied for, but they are requesting the foreground of £1,000 to go towards their storage unit. Thank you. Claire, did you want to say anything on this? Yes, thank you. I wanted to comment particularly on the parish council. It said they're not providing funding as it's for the football club use only, but I would say that the parish council have put a huge amount of effort into the pavilion refurbishment, and we'll be putting some funding into the project as a whole, and it's been very supportive of this. Thank you very much. Anybody else? My only comment was going to be that the parish council hasn't supported it, but council dons has just explained that, so I'm content. I'm content. I'm content with your decision. I just wasn't quite sure I understood exactly what Vicky was saying about the planning permission. They seem to have one lawful planning permission, but they need to get supplementary for this unit. Is that what I understand? That's correct. Initially they said that the planning permission included everything, both the pavilion refurbishment and the storage unit, but for reasons which I probably don't understand, the planning officers advised them to submit them separately, so that's what they have done. I think it was just expedite things for the pavilion. I think maybe this held things up, but they have applied for it, but it's not yet been granted. My concern then would be that the planning permission at the moment is taking an enormous amount of time, and they may not get it within the timeframe that they want to do the job, but that's my only area of concern in this one. My understanding in relation to this planning permission is that the main application for the pavilion was required in time for a grant deadline, and it was the suggestion of the planning officers to separate out the two so that they have got planning permission in time for the grant deadline, and then a separate application for the storage container was less time dependent. That's how I'd have understood it. One could have held up the other. The less of the container is the lesser of the applications by far. Okay, Councillor Cynter, your content. Councillor Henry, Councillor Dawnton, and Ellenton, how are you feeling? Okay, then Vicki, that's then a unanimous content. Thank you. Okay. Vicki, I'll do apologise. Just before you start, this is the Melbourne Community Hub. I'm a director of that as I declared in interest. So Councillor Henry is going to take this. Thank you. Thank you, Vicki. So the Melbourne Community Hub, they are starting a community video project. The Melbourne Hub has been in operation since April 2013. It's a community centre providing full access to community café, library, the parish council, the CAB, mind, a lot of important institutions within, and they have public access to computers and free access to the internet. The project is that the hub is currently undergoing extensive refurbishments and is filming the process of these refurbishments with the intention to publish on their website as a record. During the process, they decided that the record should be made, a continuing record should be made of the many events that the Melbourne Hub hosts, and therefore the wider community can enjoy, such as the village date, things that the Cubs and Scouts do, and they'll make this... ..a record to purchase a camera, and they'll make this available to those community groups to use. So the project is essentially to make all these video recordings of the several different groups recording their events so that a record is available for future generations. They've provided quotes for the cost of the camera and the subscription for the camera, and, yes, it's basically just to record and detail everything that goes on in Melbourne and the community hub itself. I will add that the parish council does support, and I know Joes sent an email saying that they have provided support in the past, obviously they're based in the hub itself. I think a colleague told me that they've written to the parish council, but it's not clear that actually that actually happened, but I know that the parish council do support this project. Thank you for kid. Bill? Yeah, I think this is a project that I'm happy to support. Yeah, absolutely. Claire, thank you, sir. Yes, I'm happy supported. I would like to add that I think it's really important that something like this is kept for the future, for the archive, for historians. So I would like to ask how they've thought about how they're going to store it properly and how they're going to label it and who's going to know about it and in the long run whether they would be depositing it in the county archives. I know that for future historians a record like this will be invaluable. I would like them to think about that, to not make it a condition. I do support it, but I don't think that's really important. When they come back to us on how they've spent the money I think it would be really nice to know how it's being stored, particularly how it's being stored to preserve it. You're presumably just talking about the film itself. My concern was around have they got adequate people who know how to edit and make sure that the documentation, as you say, is labelled so that people know what's on the film. It's lovely having a bit of film, but if you can't show it and know where to go on it to find the right bit, it can drive you mad. Yes, sorry. Thank you, chair. This happened purely because of the building extension hub itself. We've been filming with nobody in it, so there's a timelapse, if you like, for different sections of the process and some fly-through video. We were lent a GoPro, which is this particular type of camera. It's very small and compact to need to use and very robust. It's a little bit of a problem in the dump brake, which is handy, given the fact we'd like to now send it out to everybody else to use. With regards to storage, and I'm hoping we have some experts within the community who volunteer at the hub and part of the parish council that actually run their own advertising and internet company, which are the ones running the editing and what-have-you. As far as storage, if you look at the subscription side of this on the internet, it's part of the unlimited storage space for that product's name, again. That's part of their whole process. They can store it, but we're also storing it off-site tonight. It will be displayed on the hub websites and other websites that they start to take. Obviously, we're not going to necessarily display the scouts. The scouts will do their own, so to speak, of the football club their own and what-have-you. But the kit will be there for them to use. With regards to the county archive and keeping it, I think it's absolutely a given that this is a historical record, a snap in time of what we've just suffered if you like the last 18 months and how we've clawed our way back out, so to speak. I think that's all the questions answered. In terms of storage, you have to remember that computer programmes to store digital material now seem to change every 10 years or so. So, if they can store something that is more flexible to change in the system, that would be very desirable. I think we're looking at the mainly cloud. She's pretty flexible. Things like data protection, because obviously you're going to be taking a lot of... I hate the word, but it does pop up fairly regularly. With regards to data protection with a hub that has its own GDPR policies, I have been very strict. The provides that will be that the groups that use it deal with that themselves. We're not going to be storing their information, so they will be then responsible for their own GDPR. And with regards to safeguarding under small people, same applies. There are policies in place there that would only ever be with the express commission. One of the things that is quite interesting is that the hub doesn't turn on to Christmas. For those of you who have been to Melbourne hub, you can swing a cat and bang one of its heads on one wall. It's not huge, but we can have 4 to 500 people on site at any time on this Christmas thing. It is shoulder to shoulder. Obviously, it's families. We will be taking the measures to make sure that everybody is aware of how we are going about that. Not filming if they don't want to be. Okay, thanks. Good chat. Thank you. So, Claire. Sorry, Sylvia. Well, really this is a question for Jay, if I may. For equipment like this, do we always ask for them to be labelled as a donation made a grant to it? I mean, I think we have tried to do that in the past, but we've asked for a note that I see DC as a little labelled. Yeah, we can have that as a condition. That's fine. And I'm sure that Council House will probably want to put something on the hub website that the new footage has been provided by a camera from South Cam. So yeah, we can do something. Okay. Good idea. Thank you. So, are we all in agreement? There's Martin, Bill and Claire and I am. So, yes. Thank you. Thank you. So that's the end of the standard community chest applications. Did you want me to move on to the COVID ones? If it's okay with Sue, I'll take back the chair now first. Thank you, sir. Please do agenda item number seven, community chest funding applications. This is the COVID. Yes. Thank you very much. And these are the COVID grants. I hope you're all sitting comfortably. I shall begin. So, the first one, we have the Connections bus project. The project is to purchase and equip a van to enable the earlier return of youth work services to South Cambershire villages. For over 20 years, this charity has provided youth work services across Cambershire through the provision of a building-based and youth-based bus. Willa, easy for you to say, and youth bus-based venues. When lockdown came in the end of March 2020, all the charity's activities had to cease, and staff looked at alternatives that would work in this setting. The youth workers were trained in detached youth work, and a babysitting course was moved online, but there was no alternative that provided a suitable replacement for the youth bus and youth club sessions that had previously operated. As the government has announced the steps to reopening, the charity have recognised the extended need for youth services outdoors over the summer and want to split the youth club van into two stages. So, stage one is youth club from a van, or they want to purchase a van and basic equipment to allow it to be a base for detached youth work on community recreation grounds or other suitable places. They would need equipment such as gazebos, outdoor activities, lighting, hot drinks, information and advice for youth workers. Stage two is youth club in a van, and they need to add additional enhancements to the van to enable bespoke flight cases to be kitted out as a youth club equipment. This will allow the use of village venues with no equipment or storage, cheaper to run than a standard youth bus. Allow provision in villages with no space for a youth bus will be usable before youth buses are allowed under COVID restrictions. The COVID restrictions have had a big impact on young people and the services they are able to provide. So, the charity are looking to adapt what they can provide in order to link back into the communities that have not been able to access. The total cost of the projects for stage one and stage two is £25,900. They have received some funding from the Pi Foundation, £7,000, and Garfield Western have contributed £5,000. I have received an email from council support of the application. I did email to ask how they will make up the additional cost and also about what the parish councils will pay, but as you have not received a reply. They have acquired for the full COVID grant of £2,000. I would just comment that as a local member for a history in England, I would support the application and also on purpose telephone the council healings last night and she supports the application as well. Thank you. Thank you, Melty. Council handling. Thank you, Chair. I think this is quite an imaginative project and I'm happy to support it. I'm entirely happy to support it. Yes, I had a project of my own which I'm working on which is similar and I have been to talk to the connection bus people. One of the reasons that the connection bus fell out of favour with some of my villages was that the parish council were required to pay considerable amounts towards it and they didn't necessarily feel that they were getting value for money because not enough young people turned up to use it, if you see what I mean. So one of my... Whilst thinking this is a really good project and I really have great support for the whole idea, I just have not seen anywhere that it would indicate how much they're going to charge for its use if it visits a village and that bothers me just a little bit but I think the project itself is excellent. Does anybody know? Vicky, have you got any more information on that? I'll have a quick look at the form. I don't think they did stipulate. I do bear out what Sue's just said because Melbourne used to have a connection bus every now and then prior to a stable youth club and the parish council asked them to make a contribution but they were quite hefty by comparison. No, where it says about membership and fees and stuff they haven't answered that question. It's not just membership and fees it's actually what the parish councils if you go to an area or into a parish where the parish council will be asked to pay for that bus or is it being funded from somewhere else? They're not cheap, they're paying for youth workers as well so this is for the hardware isn't it? This is for the bus and bits and pieces going in. This isn't for the actual workers so there is a cost to that. It would be handy if they could actually perhaps provide even a flavour of how that might be. Yes, I would. Just having a quick look at their accounts to see if there's anything on there. Speaking personally to colleagues I'm minded from my own personal point of view to say yes this is a good one, a runner for what it's going to deliver to the youth. I'm just wondering whether or not we were to give officers the go ahead to say can you get the information if they're satisfied that there is information coming back and give us the costs. Just so they're actually in public I mean the parish councils have the choice to fund it or not and as long as it's in public and it's details are there we could perhaps say we approve on the provider to get that information and they're happy with that given what they've heard us say. Would you agree with that members? I think that it would be good. They've said I think that there are four villages that have expressed an interest but I really would like to know how much those four villages will have to pay and whether there is sufficient interest for cost analysis. I am very happy to leave that to officers to look at and bring back to us if they're not comfortable. The charity funds the youth workers that's correct isn't it? One assumes from this that there's no problem with funding for the youth workers and what we're being asked for is the funding for the equipment. That is an assumption that's built into the application that there isn't a problem with the funding for the youth workers. I tend to agree with you. Now that you've said that as well, Vicki and Jay Bird, they would just clarify that for us I suppose. I think it would be just to have that reassurance that there's no problem with the funding for the youth workers that are going to be running or using this equipment. My second question really is one assumes that they have already been in touch with young people and found what kind of support they're going for post COVID. I mean they talk about what's needed but I assume that that is on the basis of evidence that they know they've already spoken to young people. So those are two assumptions I'm making from the information that's provided here. Those are two comments and then my other comment really is agreeing with others how are they going to make up the additional funding? It's the cost of driver quite often in the evening and obviously travel and useful materials. So I think there is a substantial cost apart from the youth workers that go with them. I'm understanding though in general I would be very supportive of this but I think we need some more information. I mean are we then minded like with the caveat of what we've all been saying, the officers obviously share out or hear our concerns. So are you okay with that Vicky and Jay that you could just check those through and in. If you're satisfied I think the general feeling amongst us is that we would approve. Okay. Just leave that with your hand. Thank you. Okay thank you. Okay on to our next one. Which is Gambragay Parish Council. The project is to hold a community event to celebrate the end of the restrictions due to the COVID-19 pandemic. Community freedom event will be held in July to celebrate the release from restrictions imposed due to the pandemic. The event will be largely outdoors though large marquee or covering will be purchased for the outside area which will also make available to other community events in the future and this will be stored at the eco hub. The location is accessible to all and the event will be free for all to attend. Advertised widely in local publications and on social media. The project cost has been detailed and that totals £2,000 and that is the amount that they would like to apply for. Thank you members. I'm just wondering why I have to spend £1,000 on hiring performers. I assume these are local bands or things which obviously during the pandemic have not been able to actually work. So I'm probably, I mean I have put on here that I've got musicians, actors, public show that will appear, you know, things that will appear, appeal to all ages. I'm just making the assumption that given, you know, that the fact that they've not been able to work that they won't be able to do these events for free is an opportunity for them to get back into working. Thank you, Vicky. John. Councillor Williams. Yes, thank you. I understand this is obviously, this has been organised by the parish council but they're not contributing anything to it at all. That's my only, yeah, I would have thought that they would, if this is such a great event that's going to be so important to the village that they would also be putting their hand in their pocket and support it. So I'm not happy that they are not supporting it in any way. Thank you, John. I mean it may be that they are but they've just not stipulated on their application. I assume there'll be costs for the hub, which obviously is the parish council week, but yeah, it's not been stipulated within the application itself. I think I know a little about the, I think the hub is independent from the parish council so I think it may have some funding that comes from the parish council. I do tend to agree with John. Perhaps this is another application that should go back for a question to be made to the applicant to say is the parish council going to be putting any forward and if so how much will it be quite good? It was the use of two different words that is making me question. The event will be largely outdoors so a large marquee or covering will be purchased and then we're talking about a gazebo that's six for three, which isn't what I would call a large marquee. So there's some variation in what we're talking about here, I think. I think that largely boils down to how big you are. Yes. That is an anomaly. I suspect, again this would be quite handy, this is a good point, but it would be quite handy. She's done me now, I'm going to keep it all the way through now. It's quite handy actually to say we have a marquee which will put up but we're buying a gazebo. As you say, the choice of language because I know you can't buy a marquee of any size for 650 quid. It may be that the parish council is dividing the marquee. That could be their contribution but it needs to say so if that's the case. I think the devil is in the detail again, isn't it? Claire, you wanted to speak again. I just want to make a general point really. I think that all of these events, these post-COVID events really are important to the individual communities and in theory we should support them because they have a really important role to play in bringing people together. Also there's a general mental health pro as well but I do think we need more information on this because we're being asked to pay for the whole amount. I'm not saying it's not a good project but there are a few gaps, I think. I see there's some gaps here and the lack of parish council contribution is something of concern. I'm not sure whether perhaps this is something where we should be supporting one element of the request and hiring of the performers because that's specifically in front of the event party which is post-COVID whereas the other elements plan to be used over a long period of time and therefore a capital investment for a longer time and maybe that's what we should think of at least in the short term. Unless we have more information to justify that other spending has been done towards the project which has not been presented. I'd like to join Vicky on this one because when we first talked about this and this came up at scrutiny part of the COVID working party was one of the things about how to re-energise people and get them back out again and I think then Jay and Vicky became involved through that process so I think the criteria has been somewhat relaxed for the COVID, I think is the understatement so Jay or Vicky, I don't wish to speak with Jay but you just give us a quick heads-up as to whether you think we are barking up a rum tree. Yeah, thanks, Councillor Hales. I just wanted to also remind councillers that we can partially fund any of these applications as well so if you particularly felt that the parish council should have contributed then a perfectly acceptable solution would be to fund the project to a lesser amount and expect the parish councill to contribute the rest because I wanted to make that point clear. Thank you, Bill. Yeah, Jay mays a good point but my views on this has all been expressed by the other members of this group. I was uncomfortable covering 100% of this if there's no self-help or local sponsorship so my view would be that I'd like to support it completely, the £2,000 but I would like to see evidence that there's local support as well, financial support, whether it's from the parish or from businesses or whatever. Okay, so are we looking at another officer intervention? Do you think that Vicky would go back to the African and say, it's gambling, go to the parish council so go back to the parish council and say, would you put it in? There was no requirement for match funding to be fair, was there? If I recall. So there is that slight sticking point. We didn't specify there will be match funding requirements from the parish but it would just be kind of nice perhaps or even to stipulate their costs that aren't shown here that they've just not bothered to put down. I mean that might be the other way of doing it and so there is funding or some other means of support. So with that in mind, if officers are content that those questions that we've and our concerns have been met are we okay to approve on that basis? Agreed. I say yes from everyone, please. Thank you. Okay, thank you. The next one is from Cottenham Parish Council. It is for COVID safety and heart rate at Cottenham Village Hall. Parish Council wished to purchase nine free-standing wheeled clear plastic COVID screens to place between different groups of users within the village hall. They have detailed the project cost which totals £1,493 and again similar to the last application the Parish Council have not stipulated that they have contributed financially to this project. So it's for the purchase of the plastic screens, safety screens. Before I go to your book, can I just ask Christian Vicki is this the village hall on the high street? The former church, the Methodist church where their community cafe is. Have a quick look. Don't know Cottenham particularly well. The address. Because that's where the parish council reside as well. In the back there's quite an aesthetic on an extensive array of rooms and what have you. They've said it. I've just detailed their parish office. Parish office is Cottenham Village Hall on the foundation ground land lane Cottenham. It's not the same. It's not the old church. It's the other lane going then from the buctor surgery towards Rampton to the arms houses off there. Where they have the elections don't they? Thanks chair. I think this is another one where it appears that there's no support from the parish council. Correct me if I'm wrong. I do think this is a different kind of thing because previously it was like a party give us the money. But this is a tent to put protective barriers in place to encourage the use of the building and I think that's a very suitable way of using this money. So I'm fully supportive. So I have the same opinion. Given the news this morning that the 21st of June is starting to look a bit dubious and the doubling of the variant. My only question is are not village halls receiving substantial grants to actually be able to provide these screens and protections and so on. It's about 8000 pounds. And I just wonder whether this is duplicating grant funding. That was my question actually and it's a question to the officers. The village halls have been eligible to apply for grants throughout the COVID pandemic because of loss of income and also to help them under the restart grants to get going again. So I just wonder if there's some duplication here. Maybe Jane knows that. Or maybe John, Councillor Williams. Thanks Councillor Dorton. I think we have obviously a lot of applications this month and I think we need to just base each case on its own merits and I assume if they're applying for funding from this grant scheme then I would assume they haven't been successful for whatever reason in grant funding for another scheme or if they've used that money for something else. So we can go back and find out more information and you can defer this case if you wish. But yeah, I wouldn't expect them to apply to two grant schemes for the same thing in my opinion. But as I say, we're more than happy to go back and clarify that if you feel that's really important. Shall we ask officers to go back and ask the question? Yeah. I would be happy. Can I just come back to Jane? It wasn't at all implying that they were applying twice for the same thing. I was just wondering whether another grant stream might be more appropriate for this kind of thing or not. Of course, we will explore that with them and if there is no other method of them getting any money for these screens then we will bring it back to the next committee. Thank you. Rather than bring it back because if it does open up if the restrictions aren't going to be suspended, are suspended rather on the 21st of June they're going to need this sooner rather than later. So, if everyone's in agreement here, if you get the right answers, you're in Jane and Vicky then we're happy for that to just go ahead and be granted. John's nodding as well. Thanks. OK, Vicky. OK. I'll just make a note of that so I don't forget. OK. The next application is from, excuse me, across myself, North Stowe Secondary College. They have applied for support with their North Stowe Art Pavilions. They had a successful bid and been awarded for architect design pavilions and they were previously installed outside the junction in Cambridge and used as art installations. Now they hope to erect these pavilions between North Stowe Secondary College and Martin Beacon Academy and use them with art projects and provide a launch pad for inclusive community and school-based art groups that will benefit the communities of North Stowe and Longstanton. They describe it as a good opportunity to just kickstart engagement with arts and provide an opportunity for making activities, post-making activities, and allow students from the North Stowe Secondary College and Martin Beacon Academy special school to work collaboratively with local community artists from the new town in existing villages. The cost of this project is 24,000 in total. They have got funding from elsewhere and they are looking for a grant of £2,000. They haven't asked for support from the Parish Council. District councillors have been contacted, but yet no reply. Thank you for your question. Before I go to the floor, there is one person I am looking at who loves the arts. I suspect there is going to be a comment on the arts. I have to say, I kind of think this is... Indeed. I am sure that I speak for a councillor. I am sure that that would be our first comment. Yes, it would be great to support something for the arts. But obviously there is a question here about the Academy trust and the fact that we are not allowed to support... give direct support to education institutions of education like this. So I am just thinking that do we have sufficient information about community engagement here? I mean, I think we do, but I would like to hear what other people think. I think, in principle, it is a great idea and it would be good to have more of these kinds of things across the district, but I have just got some questions about whether or not we should support this kind of activity. Okay, thanks. I would say just for clarification in John, under normal circumstances, community trust would not entertain a parish council making an application, unless it was one of the very small ones, and we would not touch education either. However, I understand that the conditions for application have been relaxed, certainly with the parish councils, and I am looking to John as well for this, as well for a steer. This is something which is outside of the actual school itself, it is actually in the public arena on public space. So it is accessible to all. It is just that schools are actually providing the artwork by the looks of it. So could you give us a steer as to whether or not this is a no-go from the work from the staff? Thanks. If I could go first, please, councillor. Okay. Yes, so just in my opinion, I think this project is okay because what we normally say is that we can't provide funding for projects that should have otherwise be funded by another entity like a school, for instance. So we wouldn't be able to buy pencils for a school because they should have already bought them themselves, if you see what I mean. This project to me feels like it's a project in itself over and above what the normal school would be offering. And like you say, with these COVID recovery grants, schools are slightly relaxed. And this does appear to be something that is mentally stimulating and will help people in their mental recovery after COVID. That is my opinion. Thank you. Yeah, I agree with what Jay said. I think in this case it is a special case. We have to relax the walls a bit because we recognise that we can't apply the same strict rules for these sort of things. And I'm quite content with going ahead with this one. Obviously, if the committee agrees. Okay, Bill. Councillor Williams is content. I'm more than happy to approve this myself. I'm reaching delirium. I think we will approve that. Thank you, Vicky. Thank you. Super. Okay, on to the next one. Ikulton Parish Council. They would like to create an area to place community outdoor table tennis table. They want to create an active space for sport movement, fresh air and community re-engagement through an outdoor table tennis table. They feel as a community that something simple and accessible to all that is outside will be an excellent vehicle for younger people to meet and engage with each other in a safe outdoor environment as the pandemic risks fade. The vision is for informal games as well as regular relaxed club type activities around the table. A grant of £2,000 will help many elements of the community reconnect with each other and importantly do so in a safe, healthy outdoor space. They've detailed the costs. It costs in total £2,750 so they're seeking a full grant of £2,000. We have district councillor support from councillor MacDonald. Parish Council do support the project and they have previously invested quite a considerable amount of money in other outside space improvements. That is the Ikulton outdoor table tennis. Thank you, Vicky. The one question that springs to mind is their £750 shield. Yes. Has there any indication where that might be coming from or is that? They haven't indicated that but they're saying that this £2,000 will help towards the cost so I would assume that they're funding that additional themselves. Thank you, Martin. I see £50 for bats. Any disturbance of bats who get involved in quite complicated legal implications in terms I'm not quite sure how having an outdoor table tennis table affects bats but I was just interested in that justification for that. I have a sneaking suspicion that it's the table tennis bat. My apologies. This is great because we can say more creasing up on the screen is lovely. I must be going a bit bathe. Unless the members are in absolute against this approval. Especially for the bats. Thank you, Vicky. Next one, please. Thank you. That was only number five. Right. Okay. Shepard's bitfies football club are a community group and they are looking to purchase some new football goals for their under-13s. They do have quite a large membership of 140 and they usually charge £50 per year for membership and they do also do a lot of fundraising. They have intended to fundraise themselves for these goals but due to the lockdown they've obviously not been able to get together and do any events for fundraising. So they're looking to purchase these new goals for their club for boys and girls that they have at their club. The football club itself has participants from a number of villages within South Cams and they are seeking just shy of £1,800 to pay for the cost of the new goals. Thank you, Vicky. I'll give all the members some background today. We have two large football clubs. You have the Melbourne Dynamos which have been going considerably longer than the Spitfires but this is a bit like Man United and Man City these two. They are cutthroat in the league. So I actually quite welcome this actually because Spitfires are new. Melbourne Dynamos has got quite a substantial following in the way of this. So from my point of view I think this could only be a good thing. They are a growing club. As you say here they do a lot as the other football clubs as well to be found. Support people are unable to pay for their subscriptions. So I think it's quite good. Thanks. I think this is a good project and the information is interesting and it looks as if they work hard to keep the club going. Do we know... You're waiting still a response from the parish council. Do we have any indication at all that they would be supportive? No. Nothing within the application. We're not requiring it are we but it would be nice to know if they were. We're not requiring it. From my attendance at the meetings and parishes they have actually have a report. It's a monthly report from the Spitfires to the parish council. So it's quite a public process. I'll be content as a yes from us. Thank you. On to the next one. This comes from Camborn Church. Their project is to provide mental health training for frontline members of the Camborn community. The church wish to offer training to those of their volunteers who are most likely to meet residents who have mental health challenges. So it would include training for the volunteers at the community cafe, those working in the Camborn food bank, and those who work with families and young people in the Camborn and the church staff team that are often frequently approached by residents, especially at the moment during the current times of crisis. They wish to train approximately 18 of their members in the level 2 and 3 mental health first aid training, and that is a cost of £1,830, and the parish council have contributed £300 towards this. We have support from Councillor Clayton and Councillor Rattachara. They both support this, and obviously the parish council do support it in principle as well as financially. Thank you, Vicky. Members, this frankly fits the bill to a team. I agree. It's just what this is sort of project that this is intended to do. Anybody else? I agree. I agree. That's a yes from us again. Lovely, thank you. Okay. Overday centre. The project is for the reopening of the day centre. A grant of £2,000 would enable the day centre to reopen without incurring too much financial loss. They are currently operating with insufficient clients to even break evens. The overday centre normally would have about 56 members, a charge of £23 a day to attend. Obviously they are looking to offset that cost with a grant to enable them to reopen without having to worry too much about the financial implications of doing so. Obviously councillor Hanley has a conflict, and it's not been clear if the parish council have supported this or not. So that is an overday centre application. Thank you, Vicky. Go with you please, councillor Hanley. First of all, apologies that I didn't get back to you when you contacted me. I do support it. Obviously I am a trustee of the overday centre. I am just going to speak in support of this, as I am allowed to do. Obviously I will slip to the loo when you vote on it. The day centre has suffered financially through the Covid because they have fallen between stools on some of the grant funding that other institutions have been able to get. They don't pay business tax, basically, on their charity. So some of the grant funding which demands that you are a business taxpayer, they haven't been eligible for. So they have been struggling. I would say that they have done a huge amount for the community over the pandemic by providing food and the volunteers and the staff have worked for free to turn out loads of food for people. So if ever an organisation deserves support, it is the overday centre. If you will excuse me now. Thank you. Before you go, Bill, you can nod. This was the meal schemes that was run through Salcant. It was hugely successful. Members, any comments? I just wondered in terms of the principles of just paying off basically the deficits, whether that's something that we should be allowed to do rather than paying for something specific, like the salary of one of the people involved in running the day centre for a period of time. It's the way that might be exactly the same sum and it might have the same effect. But I'm wondering about the way that it's presented. I'd ask the advice on that. Over to Jay and Vicky. I'll kind of see where Martin's coming from. Perhaps this is a very honest application down to the last letter. I think the fact that Bill was saying that they've done so much through the whole the last 15-18 months of supporting to the community, they're probably exhausted, frankly. Writing an application was at the least of their concerns. I'm looking at John now to see whether or not he's content because I'm minded to be. I think I'm looking at my colleagues as well to be content. Can I ask Bill why they haven't applied for a grant? We talked about grants earlier. This, to me, would seem to be an ideal application because of your loss of fees because of COVID. That you would apply for a grant to reimburse you for those loss of fees. I'm not sure if this is the right place to come for that money. Those grants, John, are they still available to over? I don't know. I don't know if Jay knows. I think Bill covered that. I don't think it gets treated as a business, the Overday Centre, so I don't believe they're qualified for any of the business-related grants that were and still are being handed out. Okay, but is this not a village hall? Is this not a come under... I don't believe so, unless Bill's got any further information. Sorry, I don't know what they haven't done so far in regards to that. All I can tell you is that what I've been told by our finance trustee that I think they have received some grants, but nowhere near the level that a business might. If it was a business paying business rates, it would have received a lot more support. The problem I've got with this, Bill, is that you're not actually doing anything new. You're not actually doing something... This idea was to get people to get them back on their feet by doing something in addition to what they were already doing or what they were already doing. I do find it... I have a difficulty with this, I'm sorry, because what we seem to be doing is refunding you lots of fees, and I'm not sure that was the purpose of this grant. I don't know, but Jay can maybe find a way that this does apply, but that's how I feel at the moment. I don't see here anything that says to me that Overday Centre is doing something in addition to what it would normally do to help people back on their feet or to help the community back on its feet. This is basically about repaying them lost earnings. I'm not sure this is what this fund is about, and there might be other ways of getting that money. Thanks, Councillor Williams. We've hopefully left the criteria for this grant really open, so really it's up to the committee today to make a choice. There is no right or wrong. It's just wherever they feel they should fund this. We did say that the fund was for getting people back out and about after COVID. In my mind, I do feel bringing people back into the stimulating environment which they've been used to having and not had access to for so long will help with particularly those 56 people who attend and their recovery from COVID. It must be awful attending a day centre several days a week with all your friends, and then suddenly to be shut in your house for a year and a half. I do see where they're coming from in the application, actually getting their people back out and about again, especially the type of people they're looking after. But really down to committee this one, whatever you both decide. Before I come to Vicky, John, I'd like to chuck my hat in the ring on this one. I think right away from March last year that the over centre came up, day care centre came up in conversation constantly, especially through here with the meals program and what have you, it was a significant input into the support if you like of the community through that period. And I take your point what you're saying. I really do. But I think Bill mentioned earlier he said that, and I think Vicky wrote this out, that they're not able to have the full extent open without some kind of support, I suppose really is what you're looking at. And if we want to get, as Jay says, everybody back into some kind of normality then there is going to be an issue. So I just wonder if on this particular, I would argue in favour of what you just said, John, if you like and agree with you, if over hadn't been so instrumental in the support right the way through first and second lockdown, I think it was, wasn't it, Bill? Yeah. Right, I mean they have been instrumental in a huge number of meals and what have you. My heart is probably playing better than my head on this one. Sorry, Joe, but what do we say to other village halls who would come to us and say we've had a loss of earnings, can you make it up? Because this is in effect what we're doing here. John, I respect your view on this and I'm not arguing, but it's not actually a village hall that you know the day centre, it's actually attached to Elmcourt sheltered housing, sheltered, which is a council building. But no, look, if that's your view, it's ultimately your decision and there'll be no hard feeling over this at all. The swayed me that, you know, Jay has put a good argument to say that this is, without this money, you cannot help people back who need that support and I think that's perfectly acceptable. It doesn't actually say that in this application. But if that's what the intention is, it says basically you're short of 11 clients to break even. What attempts are you making to make up that number? Because obviously there must have been, you must have had those clients in the past, otherwise you wouldn't have been operating, you wouldn't have balanced the books. So I don't see anything, it looks like it's a, you're short of 11 clients. This is how much you're going to lose for, I don't know, x number, I think it's 23 pound, 20 working days per month. So you're looking at a month's loss of earnings, and you think you're doing it right and you think it's a good idea? But you said it's short of 12, I think it's just a good idea. Well then, what do we have for the next couple of weeks? I don't want to say much more about this. I think the next two weeks are high proportion of their clients have dementia, some of them really severe dementia. And they don't sit down and stay put and go around. So social distancing is actually very difficult. If they were able to rely on the client's wellbeing, respected social distancing rules, it wouldn't be so bad but it's particularly difficult one for the decent because of that. Re'na dda i fod yn gwybod – da'n gweithio, gweithio'n siarad i'w cerdw, a'r rhwngendro gyda hi fel hynny?adiw'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio chi'n gweithio'n gweithio'n amser, sydd yn gweithio'n gympriddio'n gweithio'n gweithio, sydd yn gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio chi a'r hwn, y gallwn yn darparwch chi yn yr edrych ond bod wedi caf felly mae'n rhan o gyflos o'n cyffredinol mewn gwirionedd a phasig ymlaen i gymry successor i'r for perhaps elderly relatives with dementia and somewhere for these these people to go to have a sense of you know independence and those that aren't you know quite severe with dementia and just a place to socialise and interact and and do things and I know how important it is to to those families and individuals that use it and also they've been as as Councillor Hale says they've been really really pivotal in their in their chilled meal schemes for their volunteers delivering around over and we are looking to stop those schemes at the end of June so those residents and individuals that haven't been able to attend the centre have been able to still benefit from at least one meal a week and so to offer them support with reopening or hopefully encourage them back to use the centre and I I know that there's probably still I mean this might just give them a bit of respite themselves to encourage people to come back because people are going to still have those concerns about actually going back outside into the community so that's just kind of what I wanted to add to that. Thank you for keeping us. Who's going to Martin? I seem to have raised the foreigners last year actually and I'm very I'm very supportive of this in principle it's just the way that it's been presented that's the thing that worries me and I should explain that I have a child with a son with cerebral palsy in the Swansea who's been living uh who goes who's used to go to a day centre every day uh three days a week he's similar situation he's very difficult to control he's like the wonder everywhere and he's not been able to get back every time I phone he says when can I go back so I see the real he's desperate to go back there's a real need for this I can see that the the question is how it's presented and the way it was presented here is the fact that they cannot manage the clients normally because of the way they behave and therefore and the effect trying to create a covid safe that seems to me a good justification yeah and that you know that's an argument that one could say well this is additional cost this is an additional effect therefore become supported so it's really the way the thing is presented that worries me and I will be quite happy to support it if they can present to the officers a way that is satisfactory that it's been presented to them that they they can support it but I'll be quite happy to delegate it to the officers concerned but um that's really the only concern I don't want to set a precedent but you just we always subsidize the deficit of an organisation it has to be additional and related to covid thank you for asking yeah one of the most important things about over day is that as bill says most of these clients have dementia and it's not only the clients at the day centre that benefit it is their carers have you thought how awful it is to have somebody with dementia asking the same question 50 times an hour and not have any respite and over the last lockdown period and so and it's also not that they're short of 11 residents it's the residents the the people are available to go it's the social distancing restrictions which are preventing them being able to go the the collecting them from their homes and taking them to the day centre also has to be social distanced and spread over a much greater time span with more driver costs it is the whole package that is so important and I would go along with Martin and say I think this is crying out for us to support it um Jay you've got your hand up thanks Jen um yeah just just to address two points that John rightly made was um one thing is that we won't be setting the presidents because this is a this is a one-off session this is just a one-off session so there are no more sessions so from next month we're back to the original community chess rules and the other thing I wanted to say was um that if you wanted a kind of a good solution could be because I do understand John's point of view about you know covering the gap if you wanted I could work with the overday centre finance person just to double check that they have applied and been granted every other possible grant they could get towards that and then if it turns out after that process they actually have applied for everything and they're still in a deficit and then we we could use this fund that was just an alternative solution I thought I'd propose I think that's the solution John are you happy with that yeah um in principle I'm looking at my colleagues here and it's a unanimous from us and we'll leave this in the capable hands of Jay and Vicky and to work out the finer details okay can I thank you Jay for that offer that's um that would be very very welcome I'm sure no problem thank you okay I'm moving on excuse me the friends of Flean Dyke and Roman Road which is a community group um so they were set up in 2001 and they helped to raise money to protect and extend the best wildlife areas on the two sites in Bolsham and Bourbon and they also raise awareness amongst local communities um sorry excuse me I lost my chain of thought completely so the the Flean Dyke is a scheduled monument and site of specific scientific interest maintenance of the this chalkland chalk grass and flora requires regular mowing and scrub removal which is usually done annually um this is normally done by a volunteer group but unfortunately because of COVID this group has been able unable to meet and as a result the banks on both sides of the footpath have become increasingly overgrown with scrub and brown for a length of 400 meters with eldercrease growing growing up from the ditch they're looking to use the the grant to fund six days work applied which will be done by hunts wildlife landscapes which if awarded the friends of the Roman Road and Flean Dyke will also um put in £2,000 so they'll be paying for six days work from their the contractors and then they'll put in another 2,000 so they can actually extend the the work to 12 days um this wasn't in the initial application so I did query that it was a bit confusing because they they said everything was going to cost 4,000 but the quotes provided they equated to 2,100 right in essence they'll do more work if if they can if they're successful with the grant so essentially it's just to improve the spaces and the footpath and the wildlife around it which can then be you know enjoyed fully by the communities around there. Claire thank you. Yeah I would say that this is a really important area for recreation in the full born abortion area and during the whole of the pandemic it's been very very well used with people going out for daily walks and I take on board the fact that the volunteers haven't been able to to work on the effect of that on the both on the wildlife and on the the whole area so I will be very supportive of this um I take the point that Vicki's made about the um the ambiguity ambiguity of the 4,000 pounds and I think that's worth checking up on but in general and I'm very supportive of this I think it's it's really important to maintain these areas. I mean that I think one thing that was missed here is that it's currently has 211 members who will now be able to go out so um are we sorry Susan? I just wanted to question why it is that the wildlife trust have decided that this is not one of their top priorities and this would only be a one-off payment just to get perhaps redress some of the damage that's been done over the COVID period but I just wondered whether there was a long-term plan to ensure that this is ongoing? I wonder actually that one of the things that has seems to be very prevalent because of COVID the effects of COVID has been the charities and all the the wildlife trust I imagine is not a scape to it is the revenue streams they they would have had during the year normally would have been able to fund isn't it? I would hope hope that um our grant might be able to do what it's meant to do and that relieves the pressure on the main charity if you like and then they can come next year to carry on as normal. It's probably worth a check-up I suppose but are we content that it's approved? Yeah that's that's the unanimous again Vicky. Would you mind just checking up on those bits that Sue raised? Yeah yeah I mean they did say in their application that the wildlife trust has you know due to other financial pressures been able to make not been able to make this area a priority and yeah it's in the condition it's in because they've not been able to do their annual volunteering um to sort of keep everything maintained but I will um double check those those areas with them again. It's approved from our point of view. Could I just make a point? Thank you um yeah so it I guess it is worth it I think Sue's point is really important it is worth asking them about their long-term commitment um you know now that it obviously this is paying for hunts wildlife landscapes to come in and do one off but what is the long-term commitment to maintaining it? I mean otherwise it's money down the drain and we'll check that with them. Okay um on to our next one. A further comment that this is a site of special scientific interest of high interest um there will be a management agreement um specification about what they should be doing so this is clearly within that um so you might ask them whether they're going to be looking for the longer term for other grants say from natural England or or what other scheme because it would seem to me that this is part of what they should be doing in any case to meant for the for the wildlife interest but at this point in time I'm happy you know. Well we're very happy because we'll vote just now so okay Vicky thanks um so our next application comes from Cambridgeshire's older people's enterprise otherwise known as Cope um their project is for a sing-along cafe um Cope is a charity that's been established since 2003 um they look after the interests and well-being of all those people living in Cambridgeshire over the age of 50 where they provide social activities and outings which were obviously cancelled last year um and telephone discussing groups are arranged for times a year called talking together so they want to start a sing-along cafe which means that older people could meet um at least once a month and socialise and sing along to familiar songs it has been found that singing singing helps dementia as individuals can often remember words to song but not necessarily other words and they're hoping that perhaps this could develop into a choir they have stated that there is high demand for this provision um they are however yet to identify a village where the first cafe could be established but water beach or bar hill are thought to be suitable venues um anyone can join it's available to all the only issue is the size of meeting place or halls limiting limiting the numbers possible they will initially ask for donations and maybe have raffles to to help with funding they will promote through their cope newsletter councils libraries community centres gps clinics etc um they're detailed the cost of the project which comes to a total of 1,470 however they only asking for a thousand pounds towards this project thank you thank you i mean the question begs have they have they got themselves in a muddle because this is in the covid restart and so then it would have covered the full 1,470 pounds because of that that one i'm just wondering have they have they just assumed this community just they've just read the wrong bit and put in the thousand it's quite possible i know the former's amended it a bit of a rush so it wasn't all it wasn't completely clear but they did select that this to be a covid grant because they're not talking about any other the 470 they're short they're not talking about other than a few donations here and there and a raffle they're not talking of any other contribution or support and i suppose the obvious thing here is that this is this is what this is about anyway very much so um and i'm i'm i'm looking at john i know he's going to grimace at me for saying what i'm about to say but is this the sort of thing that we would go back for our officers to say look have you made a mistake with this should you have applied for the 1470 um to get this up and running and to get going and then any of the donations and contributions they get after that helps to keep it going further on so is that a smile john or is that a grimace i would like to suggest that we ask them how they how they're going to make up the difference and then if they haven't thought of that then offer to the full amount excellent choice of language well being that they didn't ask for the full amount because they have other sources so let's not you know let's not jump a gun no that's fine i'll just when i was over jumping again if they haven't you're absolutely right this is the sort of thing that that we were expecting and uh and i'm sure you're looking forward to the single on joes absolutely the uh i'll be the the headline act right jay vicky would you would you kindly ask those those questions of course in such a manner as to help them to the right answer no problem yes can they please come back to us and let us know when the first single on takes place or whether it's in water beach or bar hill i look forward to it and it's interesting just as i just a small point i mean the music the pianist musician 40 pounds it's very modest isn't it i'm a very modest indeed am i to a student in colleagues that's a yes from us yeah thank you thank you okay um next one is from eltysley parish council and they are hoping to mark the installation of their new um play equipment um combining that with a post-covid party for the whole community and community groups that have recently had a new player re-installed um which the parish council gave the considerable some of money towards and they are looking for 2000 pounds towards the party to celebrate the installation of this and also celebrating post-covid but again no costing detailed despite an email requesting this information thank you mickey clients place from members um well i think that we need the detail um and also 2000 pounds for a street party seems a lot of money because normally street parties the food and drink you know when people bake and um bring things you know to help that along so it does seem an awful lot of money in any case i think that we definitely couldn't make a decision without a further break that that's my view thank you bill um eltysley has a population of 401 okay um but what i would like to know is uh councilors howl and ripe were contacted have they still not replied no i've not heard that from okay are we are we so did you want to speak yeah i i go along with claire that i really want to know what we're spending 2000 pounds on and you know five pound a head is quite a lot if my maths is something right it might not be okay um i was new to them i'm afraid uh jay and vicky if you could go back to the group uh quickly for us um when they're gonna do it did they say when are we gonna do it they haven't given the date when they're going to do this yeah be nice nice i didn't see the date there isn't a date don't think there was let me have a look okay could we have could we have the dates so that we're not going to trip a natural fact if the if the information comes back that satisfies you to come back and you could probably go back through john i suppose really i think there'll be the easiest way on this one um we need to know dates so if it's going to be next week it's pointless that time so um yeah dates what they're what they're is it just the street party how's it going to run could we have some comment from mark and nick it would be quite handy councils for that that patch it would be it would be nice to have their support absolutely martin yeah and there's a bit of confusion here because it's described as a project type equipment capital purchase and yet they say they're providing a opening a street party i'm wondering whether actually what they're trying to do is part by it's so large is to contribute towards the cost of the equipment so it might well be that it's acceptable especially for them i mean but it's and maybe that's what they should be saying but we do need this detail so that's an interesting bit of confusion here i think i suspect as bill said earlier that this is this is a very small community very small 400 people is very small and from our experience all of us here um any community that has a big project for a play park or anything like that has a very small dedicated group melbourne did one a few years back is 6000 people at that point six and a half thousand residents in melbourne and there was a committee of 10 and they worked very very hard so working on the basis of the hot the numbers um you know that's probably about two people in gysylltu so um i'm i'm pretty supportive really i think this is but this is probably about it was about people to kind of celebrate the the lockdown indian and then coming back out i'm going to go and build yeah i'm i'm i supported too i don't want to give you the wrong impression i am supportive but it does seem a lot of money for a village with a population of 400 that's all i'm saying and you know i'd like to know what they're going to spend it on and i think we've others have said that so and i wouldn't and and we may perhaps take the option that jay reminded us off earlier and and offer actually offer less than they've asked for on this occasion it's a possibility we might but um perhaps we can leave that with council williams yeah i think if we if we do the officers first john and they come back through you but i think genuinely speaking we have the concerns that we've raised other than that then it kind of fits the bill but just i'm just i just want to ask the question is ethosly one of the parishes that's so small that we can actually that they can actually apply to community chess i think it's too big isn't it yeah it's over that number okay that's okay okay i'm going to say that if they could perhaps they that's real to say to them they could apply to us to contribute towards the play equipment but obviously if they're not then they can't go on jay um yeah just to jump in i actually know elksley and the parish council quite well there because that's where i run my election station every year um and they haven't yet installed the play equipment they've been fundraising for it for a long time part of it is exercise equipment you know that you know those sort of exercise outdoor exercise equipment that you have next to a park so the parents can exercise while the kids play kind of thing i think they're about seven thousand short i remember rightly in raising the money for their play equipment my guess is the application has been put in in a rush it within the last couple of days before the scheme closed um and what i think they wanted from speaking to roger the the parish chair um i think they wanted to have some some money towards the equipment to help to build this deficit so they can actually get the equipment installed and also part of the money to run a run a kind of party and have the new equipment at the forefront of the celebration along with getting people out after covid so yeah i don't think there's enough information being given and i don't think they've really uh sold their uh what they want to do very well but i do think that at the heart of the application it is a it is a good cause and exactly what we were asking for but i do fully understand we could defer this one and come back to the next month's advisory committee with the further information or we could find out more information and come back to john and and then award it if john's happy after the further information's been sought um yeah so i have a question about this that is if they have applied for funding for the play equipment to make up the difference um because the play equipment was important for health and well-being particularly past covid that would have fitted with this grant stream wouldn't it but it seems to me they're mixing two things up either they want to party to launch the play equipment or they want the play equipment now you know both actually would be eligible for this grant stream but they're running the two together and not giving us enough information so you know let's know what it really is and then we could probably fund it or most of it i think i'm content to say that from what comments have been made here john if uh jay and vicky go and do their work and they come back to you and then you can have the obviously the final decision on that one yeah i'm i'm i'm happy with that brilliant thanks okay um next up is staple food parish council their project is the under 12 playground refurbishment and in particular the refurbishment of the baby and young child swings um the playground equipment was originally installed in 2002 and it's now a bit out of date with some equipment no longer actually working and obviously the park has been a really important place while you know when it's been able to be opened during covid 19 and it's more important than ever that families and the children are encouraged to get out and play they did some community consultation before the pandemic with regard to the refurbishment of the playground and they found that several families drove out outside of staple food to use play equipment elsewhere because the standard of the play equipment in the park of staple food was um not particularly good so they are looking they're looking to refurbish the whole play park um the group is actually only looking for funding from us for the refurbishment of the swings at the playground and the total cost of that is um just over 1900 pounds they are only seeking the amount excluding vat just over well about 1600 pounds the jubilee playground is on the recreation ground with public access committed all day the village has a primary school and the on the majority of the students live locally and the recreation also benefit and also benefits great and little shelford who visit um the recreation ground and also there's a football club nearby which use which use the recreation ground so the the playground um is crucial a crucial local village resource and important that um it's um you know in good working order for everybody to use thank you vicki thank you college members i think it's a good it's a really good application actually detailed and accurate and um yeah i think um they absolutely hit the nail on the head um when they say that to get parents and children out to have safe equipment after lockdown when the local when our local playground opened it was absolutely mild okay thank you play um in that case i think that's a yes um and you may have noticed that erin come up and said uh whispered in my shell like under our current rules for covid safety in this building we have to take a 15 minute break where we leave the chamber and suck in some fresh air um so if you don't mind i think this is probably an appropriate moment to to uh to suspend for this for the time being and see you back at just after midday okay three minutes past 12 to be precise thanks if you've got anything to eat or coffee and tea keep it out of sight because we have not had that luxury and we feel very aggrieved yeah shut it john are we all ready to continue i'll let you know when we're live we're live okay so our next one has come from swaibersley parish council and the project is for outside seating and tables on market green in swaibersley along with recycling and waste bins market green in the conservation area of the village has become an extremely popular area for people to meet outdoors especially of late during the restrictions placed um in the area there is a small coffee and cake shop the news agents and several routes leading to public rights of way around the village um they want to um add to their existing benches that they have in the area which will give all residents the opportunity of opportunity to continue post-covid to use the outdoor open spaces have areas to sit and meet outside safely um and this will enhance the area as well as providing the picnic benches additional litter bins will also be provided by the parish council and these will include bins to collect recyclables such as glass paper and plastics as more people are using those areas there will be a contribution from the parish council towards the project and they have contributed an amount of £574.78 um the market green is also used for various other community events such as festivals community picnics and events like the annual barrel rolling um this project will be an ideal way to encourage the community to meet again post-covid lockdowns. Councillor Annington supports this project um as i said before as do the parish council um the total cost of the project is £2,568.16 and they are seeking the amount of £1,993.38 so that's basically the difference from what the parish council have contributed. Thank you Vicky. Thank you. I support this I think it's a good application um I think it's a kind of thing that this uh stream this funding stream is for um and I hope good use will be made of it if we agree it um and I hope that we might have a little label on funded by Southcowns. Yes um this is uh um has become really a very popular area because of the coffee outlet mostly but the wi meets there at 10 o'clock on a Thursday morning which is always when I've got another meeting but never mind um and also the there's so many walkers around the village and they have to pass by we've actually had to um fence off three car parking spaces so that we can have socially distance queuing and as you walk past you see there's at least 14 people standing in the queue waiting to get their coffee and go drink it on the on the green so it it really has been and it was it is extremely difficult in the seating that's there if you're old and decrepit to get your leg over you know so I've I suggested that they should have seats that were more user friendly so I won't vote but yes it's a good thing thank you I mean uh Aaron and this are you you're involved in it no I'm not on the parish council um but when when it was suggested that they replaced the that they increased the seating area with the same seats that they've got at the moment it was me that said no did I get some seats that are more comfortable for elderly people so I was going just for some clarification I think you can vote thanks Joe my line would be that councillor Ellington can absolutely vote on this item she wouldn't be benefiting from this personally um and whilst she may have contributed to an idea for that has obviously not been involved in the actual forming of that so absolutely can have a vote thank you there you go then right so I've had the uh affirmation from the back and in front of me and Martin that's all of us then so actually yes from us thanks thank you okay moving on to great and little chisel parish council um it's a bench for the chalk pit um the chalk pit in the village has been a wildlife haven for many years however it had become overgrown so they've already um done some clearing of the pit with the use of the the volunteers in the village one is a who is a conservationist and they've um replanted lots of saplings in the area now they would like to install some seating to allow people to visit and reflect on one of the most peaceful sites within the village um they describe the the area as a special place in a special village with and it's an attraction for all they are looking for funding to purchase one bench um they have said in the application they want to provide seating so I assume although it's not made clear that they want to purchase more than one bench but they're actually only seeking funding for us for one of the benches never applied for 850 pounds thank you thank you comments colleagues kind of does what he says on the team I think Martin yep yep okay I see yes thank you lovely thank you okay um so moving on to friends of Histon and Impington community um otherwise known as pie friends it's a registered charity based in Histon Histon and Impington started on 1 January 2020 following the merger of two long standing village charities um the project is um that high friends have been working with another charity called postability um and they've been working them prior to the pandemic and they had organised specialist exercise classes to groups at Histon and Impington in their recreation ground pavilion pavilion a group now wish to restart their classes um post COVID and they also want to add a a dedicated class to those living with long term COVID and these classes will be available to anyone within the district not just those who reside in Histon and Impington and the group will have a capacity of 10 and if there is greater demand they can set up additional classes but to start with they're looking at just having a class for 10 um each session would last 75 minutes um will include time for exercises and also for social interaction um at present the group envidges the activity being available for an initial six month period however they will review that after six months to see if there's you know any any take up longer term but their funding they're seeking is for the initial start up for the for the six months high friends will also make their community mini bus available with a volunteer driver to help transport those who would like to attend or otherwise don't have their own transport and the project will cost in total um 1794 pounds high friends themselves are contributing 394 pounds towards the project and are seeking a grant of 1400 pounds to cover the remainder. Councillor Hayling supports the the project um states that high friends are very well known to them and provides an excellent service and benefit to the community um fully supports the grant and application their full site vision and adapting the postability support specifically for long term COVID sufferers um is something that um it's really been supported so that's high friends. Thank you. Martin as a local member I just had to ask you a question before you speak it says here there's the the poseability is that the the exercise class and are you are you a member of the poseability class? No I probably ought to be but I would support the application. Thank you and I'm assuming you said earlier that Councillor Hunt had also indicated to you that he did. That was the other application. I'll bring it home. Colleagues any other comments? That's that that's a yes from us Vicki. Happy thank you. Okay moving on to the parochial church council of all saints church cottonham um you may recall these from a couple of committees ago they applied through the normal community chest scheme and were awarded a thousand pounds towards the same project. The church filled this project also falls within the COVID recovery guidelines and are therefore applying again. Their project is to install the projector and screen within their church building and they state that as the COVID restrictions end the church expects to welcome the opportunity to bring people together in the largest indoor space in the village with the best acoustics. They've received several letters of support from community groups that will use it from Philip Saunders a local lecturer and also musician Helen Medlock. The church is working to make their building accessible and user friendly and this new facility will contribute to that. For example there annual summer holiday club has been on occasion held in all saints church that brings together some 150 primary school children and many young leaders who develop their skills over the year and every year much of the equipment they use during the school holiday club has to be borrowed or hired but now they'll have those facilities in place for everyone to use them while they're there. They have sought additional funding from the old church's trust, Fennedge community association, the John Fitzwilliam charity and obviously also the community trust grant which was awarded back in March and they're still fundraising and having other grants ongoing and they've applied for the full grant of £2,000. Colleagues like Martin at the plate first. Yeah so it's very very similar to the application that we've had before isn't it? I mean really very similar indeed and I've got two questions. One does this really fall within the scope of this grant stream and the second is how are they going to make up the difference? I mean they said they're going to make up any other remaining by other grant applications and fundraising activities. I think like a lot of groups have seen it's been really difficult to fundraise over the last year so obviously their experience difficulty raising funds are that method but they've just stated that they have other grant applications although not not stipulated from where. I was only going to raise the issue of the fact they've already had a community trust grant and this is making a second bite of the charity and is that acceptable? Yeah one of the things was that we've stipulated that you do the same group come back for the community trust grant for £1,000 and the COVID up to £2,000 so that would be fine and there would be no restrictions on that. It's just as Claire says whether or not it actually qualifies under the suit. I'm not sure whether it does qualify under the conditions of the post COVID and I am a little concerned about coming back for a second bite at the charity as it were and when do they think they're going to find the other? I'll work it out about £4,000 they'll be short because it could be that this won't happen for another 12 months if they haven't got a fairly sure access to another £4,000 to make up the lot difference if I've got my maths right? Bill? Yeah they seem to be a long way short right now don't they of their target so it could as Gapswell-Ainston says it could be quite a while before this is they can install this. I'm slightly more I'm slightly more nervous of this one for that reason and I don't know whether or not they can come back another time when they're closer to their target. I don't know having given them already already South Cams has already given them £1,000 so yeah I'm slightly more nervous of this one. I think just to be clear and Jay will raise his hand up so I think he's probably going to say the same thing but Jay just correct me if I'm wrong and that is that any group could make an application to the community chest as long as they're qualified and the COVID but I don't remember it being for the same the same job so to speak or the same thing it was you can make a separate one here but there was no restrictions on what you you could access both that. Yeah the application is fine on the basis of the the the rules we put in place which weren't very very strict it's really down to today really and what members felt should be granted and shouldn't be granted it does offer the facility to be equipped to allow the public to again meet and do you know the same it's the same kind of mental health getting together again there's a lot of the other grants we've we've looked at so yeah we did say that they could that you know groups could come and have one bite each cherry as as council held puts it so there isn't anything wrong with the application in regard to it qualifying or not to be eligible it's just whether you feel that this is it is basically a decision down to committee today on whether they feel that the £1,000 was sufficient or whether they'd like to fund the project further um but it's the same application pretty much as the last time it's the same project it's the same projector and it's the same benefits for the community as they ascertained the first time around thanks thank you jay john over to you well jay's absolutely right i mean they've got every right to apply again um and i have to say i'm reminded to agree to this um bear in mind that you know yes they're still short but we won't give them the money until they've got all the money and they go ahead with the project so we're not going to be giving the money and then it falls through um they'll get the money when we pledge them the money but we don't actually give them the money until they've done it so i'm happy with that and it and it does meet the criteria we set and good on them for coming back and trying for more money um the project um meets you know the criteria so i say i'm i'm minded to go ahead with this one i'm so happy for everyone i'm just on that note i think put your hand down please john i might get melbourne community hub to come back for a bigger camera then all right thank thanks i'm just joking john okay thanks um dear to me so far bici that's a yes thank you and uh moving on thank you okay moving on to fen diton primary school ptfa their project is a nature trail project helping fen diton to thrive outside um the lockdown thing excuse me the lockdown the effects of COVID-19 has massively impacted the the mental health of pupils in in their school um this year has seen frequent challenges for the pupils of the school and lockdown has changed virtually every aspect of the children's lives their home um school school life their ability to socialize with family and friends um the group expect many of the children to have difficulties over the next few months following their return to school including dealing with fear and anxiety challenging situations at home uncertainty and re-establishing friendships and routines etc the group is striving to provide mental health support for children and staff of the school with an emphasis on mindfulness and well-being and have set aside an area for a new nature trail which will function as a space for the whole community to use when lockdown restrictions allow the project has already started with support from tarmac who installed a path and groundwork east who have worked with staff and pupils to wild the edges of the path and add features to support nature but the part of the project the group are seeing funding for is the development of the independent well-being trail an exciting and innovative outdoor learning and a community space that encourages individual or group exploration and discovery as well as enabling it to use it to support individual or whole-course well-being and teaching they have described exactly what they're going to be doing on the trail and that is detailed in the report um the funding will enable the group to grow their trail with planting and points of interest such as fact boards bug hotels and outdoor seating to engage all users of the space and bring nature to the area the nature trail will benefit the whole community when restrictions lift a place for social gatherings and for families to enjoy the group have strong relationships with community groups who could also use the space for events and activities and this will help pupils and parents feel part of the wider community so they may be encouraged to take a more active role there too they that the total cost of the project is 6133 pound and they're seeking funding of the full grant of 2000 thank you vicky uh claire um yes so i'd like to speak in support of this and in fact actually i was in contact with someone called George Sherwin who i presume is a new officer um twice during the time that this was going through and and i was also asked um in advance of its being put in by a member of the ptfa um for some advice um so i think it's a good project and um they've gone to quite a lot of effort to put in a good application um and just a couple of points of information are the i do know that members of the parish council have supported the school throughout covid in different ways not necessarily focused on this um so there is there's been long-term support for the school in different ways um and i think that they'd make a good case for opening it up to the community and that was one of the things that i was originally concerned about when i got in touch with George Sherwin um and i think they really made that clear in the application so i'd like to support this thank you claire that's a yes from bill martin um i mean in principle fine uh i'm a little bit concerned about having a low post of rogue friends that are going to an area which is near where young kids are going to be running because kids are tending to running here there and everywhere and that strikes with something which they might be sent to fall over rather than um but if they think they can do it uh safely um fine so i'm very happy so happy doki um kids switching myself off um on the agenda it says that john is going to speak after we've i assume made our recommendation so i'm looking around here john that we're we're in favour of recommendations so over to you okay that's that's good i agree with that i just wanted to point out i used to be a governor at this school um i was in charge of their finances and uh the school has a very good reputation as a forest school um so this this fits nicely in with that and um yeah i thank you very much i think um this is a worthwhile project thank you yes i say yes from us then mickey lovely thank you um so next up is the woman of all well who are community group and organises monthly meetings for all women all women in all well the group promoting support local projects and initiatives and during the pandemic they have been supporting the parish council uh with supporting residents they are looking to hold a bird of prey show on the 4th of july 2021 which will be open to the whole village they had a similar one back in 2018 and it was enjoyed and attended by the majority of the village they're hoping that this event will cheer people up after the awful year and get people back out in the village attending local events the event will be held outside in a large grassy area in the clunch pit which is easy to make covid safe the group are intending to use the grant to cover the cost of the birds of prey um and their handlers to be in attendance um a grant award of five hundred pound would lend allow the children to attend for three um they provided a quote for the cost of the birds of prey and it actually totaled 462 pounds 50 i think they've just kind of rounded up to 500 um but they they're just looking for grant to cover the cost of that and and they're intending to um fund fund the rest thank you mickey any comments members you're okay with it that's a yes from us then thank you yes okay um cambridge past present and future pathways to recovery is the project name um cambridge ppf has been established uh since 1927 and with the aim to inspire all people of all ages to get out outdoors help them to enjoy and learn about and get involved within their local environment and culture the group provides eight miles of footpaths and many of these footpaths have become damaged to due to significant increase in foot form during the winter months caused by more people exercising during the pandemic many of the paths have become unusable are unsafe for people who are less mobile now they want to use the grant funding to repair the paths so they're usable for next winter by people who are less mobile funds will pay for the cost of equipment materials and staff time and volunteers will also be involved to help repair the paths um the total cost of the project is just over 5 000 pound and they've not stipulated how they will meet the additional costs but um from looking at their accounts it shows they do have significant reserves so i can only assume that they'll be topping up the shortfall and they're looking for 2 000 pound from the covid fund to support the maintenance of these pathways thank you mickey um comments colleagues um yes i was just a bit concerned that the wood chipper is uh going to cost 684 pounds to train people to use it well i would suggest that they just have one person who knows how to use it and i don't suggest that 694 pounds is necessary but the in principle i think the whole project is good one thank you anybody i support this it's it's been very very very happy to use during lockdown um so i think the work is really necessary i think it really fits within the scope of this grant i think thank you just for this thank you martin yeah sure you you're supportive just with the comment here i see yes from us to be the comment lovely thank you okay moving on can i can i just come in so i have my hand up sorry joe you may not notice um sorry can i use one degree very often actually at least once or twice a week and um and there are some parts of it that they now have to rope off because the footpaths have got so so worn so you know i certainly you know support what they say that uh they do need to be doing some maintenance on on a lot of the footpaths because of the volume of people that have been using using it to exercise so this is very worthwhile thank you john thanks mickey thank you um so moving on to telugu association in cambridge cricket club um the group described themselves as a friendly non-procritable cricket club cricket club um 90% of their members live and work in the south camershire area established in 2017 starting with one team um consisting of 11 players but now they currently have more than 50 members representing people from various backgrounds uh they have two teams and they play in the camershire and hunting to show premier league and a development team which plays friendly fixtures on a sunday um they're a bit of a nomadic club they don't have a permanent ground um so they are hiring they've been hiring grounds to play on a year by year basis um they're looking to use grant funding to purchase a lease for a ground which they hope to be in a south camershire area however it's not um that's not being confirmed as yet i had a look at their club website and it shows they're currently using a ground in reach which falls under east cams so i did ask them for more information if this was the ground they intended to lease or if it was another one um you know specifically within south cams but the reply was it will be in between cambridge and camborn or it might be the one in reach um so they're looking for support to help them establish it's ideally to help them establish the ground within south cams but obviously that depends on ground availability um council of golf and council wilson did get back to me but they saw the link with kotlin and rampton as quite tenuous um it it kind of fell under kotlin and rampton because the applicant um actually resides in kotlin um so that was why it it fell under their jurisdiction um they're looking for an amount of £1,000 um they've detailed their cost will be £2,000 for release and £1,000 towards equipment however they haven't provided you with any quotes despite my requests to do so thank you piki i mean where it says costings at the bottom is 2,000 for lease and 1,000 for equipment so their project cost is 3,000 not two yeah i'll blame the admin team on that one well no it's not you know i mean it wasn't for that it was just you know and and they haven't said where they're there wasn't a criticism because it was just they haven't said where they're going to get the other 2,000 pounds from or they haven't asked the pc for support and there's no financial support they're fine that would be because it would be very very difficult if they are they seem to be not certain where they're going to stick their roots um i'm not overly confident on this one members clear um i don't see how it fits our criteria actually they haven't made a case for its fitting our criteria i don't think anyway unless i've missing something in the the short amount of information here um you know have they said how it fits with the post covered recovery um and also they've not just provided enough information enough financial information so well my concern is that if they don't know what ground they're going to hire they don't actually know how much it's going to cost them to hire it um and i agree with you that it's not they do say in the blurb at the top that it's startup costs but actually nowhere does it say it's post covid or anything like that and and so i'm feeling a bit like you it could easily go in the community grants area uh at a later date bill i've some sympathy with them because presumably they've got members dotted around various villages in south cams um to lugo is a you know they're indian it's an indian club um so they're going to have some difficulty aren't they finding a sort of place to base themselves but they've clearly got a need so i do have some sympathy with with them but i also agree that you know it's probably not a post covid thing um could they would it be better if they were to apply for the main community grant community chest grant perhaps that they're encouraged to do that i've got any doubt about that right now i've got two hands up out of the chamber j and john i don't which one of you was first shall i go to j first john over to you thanks jeb um i'm just going to say yeah the only issue i see with this application is that you know what happened you know that it's difficult one because their final destination might end up out of outside of south cams so yes it is benefiting some south cams residents but yeah i would feel more comfortable if they were to come back to the standard community chest once they had a ground um personally um but yeah back down to you guys really that's just my gut instinct is that i'd feel better about um this if they had a final uh ground basically and they had some more you know it's all very chicken and egg isn't it they want to get the money to then get the ground so you know i do understand that point of view as well and it does benefit south cams residents so it's difficult one thank you jeb you've got john first bill yeah i'm i'm i've problem with this i mean first of all it haven't supplied us with any accounts so i think we've gone to see their accounts and secondly um i'm unhappy about this equipment they haven't actually itemized what equipment they need um and it is tenuous with covid although i can see that um you know cricket is exercise and um and yes you know it could be encouraging more people to play cricket but it's just so brave and i think what we need to what they need to do is to find themselves a ground and then come to us you know with with support um and also i'm not sure whether we give money for lease leases i don't i can't i can't see how yeah i i i if they came to us for uh wanting to um fund equipment that's fine but at least i'm not absolutely comfortable with that and i'm certainly want to see their accounts anyway before we do anything so um perhaps yeah perhaps we ought to go back to them and say you know this doesn't really fit the covid come and apply to the community jest um and see but i would be i don't jay if it um if it does meet our criteria paying for a lease i'm not perhaps i'm not sure it would it wouldn't generally but i think they were putting the case forward that this was for starter costs to get the group settled basically so you could argue either way to be honest but i do okay but i think i think we need them to we need some more information i don't think i can make a decision on this sure i think ducking in the face is in here jones pills go a different opinion no actually they john and jay have really articulated what i was trying to was getting at it myself and i think they they should come back to us but i do think we should try to go back to them and and say that we would like you know we'd like to help them um with the right kind of application and the right at the right time you know okay well i think deaf bearing in mind what we all said here john and what you just said i think this is back over to jay to make that clear and uh when they planted their roots and they have roots come back thanks excuse me okay um land beach parish council um are intended to use a section of the recreation ground to create a wildflower meadow in order to make it a more peaceful area for the community and a better habitat for wildlife many people have turned to the to nature for the during the pandemic to find to find calm area and they hope that this area within the community will continue to do that um as well as the purchase of the wildflowers in the meadow they want to purchase 12 bird boxes and three back boxes all of which are sustainably made with recycled plastics and volunteers will place those around the area benches will also be installed so people can keep enjoying their surroundings a lot of people visit the recreation ground so they're creating a more peaceful space hopefully the community will spend more time there and make use of the physical and benefit then physical and mental benefits of being in nature the parish council have supported the project and they are they've also supported it financially they'll be contributing 500 pounds and the total cost of the project is 1160 so they're seeking 660 pounds from the grant funding to cover the remaining costs council of ripeth has emailed a letter of support um and that's detailed at the bottom there will be support residents health and well-being and the connection to nature as we come out of lockdown thank you vicki claire um yep i i think this is a good project and it's really nice to see that the parish council has put in 500 pounds land beach is a small community um and i think what they're doing is is good and interesting that the bed boxes in the back boxes um just a point of information uh a slight correction um the district councillor support and councillor hazel smith has retired um and the new councillor is councillor paul bear park so maybe just a note for that in future yeah that's probably why council hazel smith didn't reply yeah that would be why thank you i'd just like to ask a question if i may um i think the 7th of june is an excellent day mainly because it's my birthday but and cards and presents can be sent in the post um but they've said they've done it this year and as i recollect i am not 61 as yet so this is a pre a preemptive strike of 500 pounds in yeah yes yes i'll need to check that it may be that that's when they're going to give it to them martin and these are genuine bats thank you as soon as you want to say anything no i think it's a good scheme um i'm not i'm not absolutely sure that sustainable bird boxes and sustainable back boxes are any different from bird bird boxes and back boxes but don't let that worry bill even with the dodgy bats yeah even with dodgy bats thank you that's it then thanks thank you okay moving on to Little Wilburham and Six Mile Bottom Parish Council um the application is for funds directly aimed at enhancing a post-covid community event designed to tie in the past to the future and bring residents of the parish together and they held the village feast in 2019 for the first time in 115 years um it was previously an annual event in the village traditionally held on or close to mid summer the last village feast prior to 2019 was held in 1915 and they assure it was discontinued after after then because there's no records indicated in each revival after 1918 so quite a historic event um so they held the village feast in 2019 which was a huge success residents bought their own picnic and a plate to share with generous donations from residents and drinks were provided at no cost and they were due to hold the feast again in 2020 but this was abandoned and however they're looking to re-host event this year in compliance with government and COVID directives the actual project is called Shelter Together and they want to provide two shelters to use at the village event and the cost of the two shelters is um 664 pounds and 32 pence which is two like pop-up gazebos with two sides the parish council will support the project um and are also contributing 330 pounds towards the cost um councillors Cohn and Dalton have also provided an email in support of the project and they're detailed on the report um so they're seeking funding for um 50% of the cost they said they've requested 330 pounds however the remaining required is based on the quotes provided 314 pounds and 32 pence thank you thank you just no you said that uh Graham and supported this yes and emails but I don't see one from Graham so if if you have got that there would you when you redo it okay just pop that in I think it's only only right and proper Claire do you want to speak only to say that um I think it's a good application it's got all the information and um it's good to see that parish council is supporting it both um in person and with money I think that's always um that's always good to see um and I think that the the place where this event will take the site where this event will take place is very open um and to have these and I remember the first feast or the first feast after 1915 which was held in um 2018 um it was a good day but if the day if there'd been rain it would have really made a difference so having these shelters will mean that it's possible even if the weather isn't good and I think there'll be really important in the future for making better use of this space because it is very open anybody any comment to a bill that's a yes from you that they remain in equality 114 and the rest of 230 um I presumably only pay on receipts so if the cost I mean it may include costs for transport and what have you but I just don't normally supply do we unless there is a receipt yeah they've provided um quotes for the project and that did total slightly less than than what they were asking for but quite often you find people will round things up when they'll say you know it costs 328 pounds 60 and they'll raise it to 330 or whatever I say I think that's what's happened this in this instance but um yeah based on what the the parish council contributed and the actual quotes of the purchase of the equipment um the remaining is behind him 14 the few pence that it said but in principle happy to support thank you very much that's a yes from us then fabulous you'll be pleased to know this is the last one it's not going to be pleased it's just that we're in through with the sound of your voice the last one has come from a group called disability cambridge here um the user led organisation first establishing 92 and currently has 216 members they are based in cambridge city however it offers services to all residents across south cambs their advice and information service will be accessed by all clients by email the website social media telephone home visit and zoom calls um the project is called a post covid volunteer project um disability cambridge here works to help to disabled benefit disabled people access benefits improve mental health reduce us and reduce socialisation socialization excuse me um dc needs a new advice line and admin volunteers to replace the volunteers lost as a result of their office being closed since march 2020 due to covid and since that time they've only been able to provide a voicemail and email service to clients uh when their office reopens after restricted restrictions are lifted new volunteers will be necessary to help answer inquiries via the phone and provide administration support to the team they've already identified two possible volunteers however they will require an induction and a training program in order to meet the accreditation requirements and able to enable them to support the work they do the charity has no resources to meet the cost of this grant funding is being sought to support this and would help disability cambridge here to return to providing a more normal service to clients the aim of the project well the aim of the project is to recruit and induct and train four new volunteers therefore this funding will pay for a current part-time member of staff to increase their contract by three hours per week this will then allow them to run a 12-week conduction and training program for two new volunteers twice at the end of this six month project they will have four fully trained and effective volunteers seeking funding to cover an increase in salary costs costs of the existing member of staff to train the new volunteers to run the program and that cost would be £1,195.55 and that's what they're seeking funding for thank you thank you i mean i think this one falls squarely into the mental health isn't it obviously with the disability as well i mean it's been widely reported that people with disabilities have been majorly affected with COVID over the last 18 months so i think that we didn't fall out from it um do we have anyone speaking for you so um yes just to say that it's not only those who've got the disability it's their carers who desperately need support and help um my only question was how difficult is it for them to recruit volunteers given the current situation people are always reluctant to offer them themselves as helpers and it may be quite difficult for them to recruit and i wish them well but that's it i have to say we've been quite fortunate actually in Melbourne we've been at a plethora of people who are itching to do something that could be written it might tip it might drop off who knows are we all content everybody okay that's a yes from us uh please wiki lovely thank you and and does that conclude your uh your offering for today then thank you i think he does thank you for listening thank you wiki and thank you j for your input there j you want to speak sorry yeah just just to say thanks to all the members for that marathon session we knew it was coming but really good to get through it and today we've rewarded around about 37 000 pounds for some really good causes in our district so thanks everyone yeah well i was just going to say to wiki go and have a lie down because she hasn't stopped talking for the last three hours i'm going to have a week off as well i was going to say have a lensip as well see you later thank you thank you yeah i just want to say as well it's good that it's been a whole range of things and also it's good that's been a spread across the district it would be good to look at you know how wide the spread is but my impression as we've been going through it is that um it has been a good geographical spread which i think is important as well okay that marty i'm going to have to go now i'm sorry i've said below but i've said that's really kind of you for okay in that case then let's say thank you to jay and vicky who have probably done a department this jay's to go around um we're now going to go back to our agenda doing what we swapped it all around so we're now going to do agenda item number five and welcome kathryn Hawks kathryn hope you're well uh over to you can't hear you mate you may have to hold the mic up to your mouth i think on your ear please is that bad sir yeah yep spot on okay um so yes this relates to £50,000 worth of um government funding that has been ringfenced for health and well-being um relating to covid and post-covid recovery um we are bringing to you today a recommendation um of the criteria for a scheme that we feel would fit this funding really quite well whereby the the applicants would be the dual use facilities that we have agreements with across the district already that support the active and healthy for life programme otherwise known as the dupy referral scheme um or the exercise on referral scheme um that provide um a centre for people who might not be able to afford or feel inclined to travel further for their exercise um these schemes um provide a vital um resource for those people um and we are providing um we're hoping to provide them with this this money as a as a grant scheme that only they can apply into um so there are 11 dual use centres that would be eligible um or rather actually i need to make a correction to the list you've got a list there of of dual use agreements uh on appendix a i believe it is north stowe there is also a dual use agreement that's only been agreed in the last few weeks and given the criteria here we don't think they would be eligible anyway um and also in terms of camborn it's actually the sport centre that runs the um referral scheme so um rather than the village college so there's an amendment there on both on both counts to that list um but aside from that it would be um 11 schemes that could apply into this um this scheme if if it's approved as we've proposed um the other part of the proposal here is that um because of the technicalities around the dual use agreements and because of the timeframe we'd like to get this launched and out so that schools can start there um the the facilities can start their work in september we'd like to be able to do this with officers making a recommendation to the lead member for finance as opposed to coming back to the grants advisory committee just because of the timing and to try and get the decisions made before the end of term so they can do something with it over the summer hundred days if if they choose to um so yes um you can see the options there um any questions thank you Catherine please Claire um I just want to be sure uh just a question to Catherine um so the support would not be age related the support would be across the community yeah anyone across the community can access those those centres the um the exercise on referral scheme is for a particular cohort within a community obviously that they would need to be referred through um from their GP that's how that scheme works but actually anybody can access those dual use centres Bill or so these centres are really well used on the whole and I um in the past I have been around several of them and found a number of people who would not have really got off their backsites at all and and help themselves um and I would very much support this thank you so Bill uh yes I very much support this we've we've had I've had some discussions with Catherine and colleagues about this um I think this is a good use of this money a very good use of this money can you just ask Catherine one question um number two Bottisham uh don't offer exercise and referral scheme is that significant or not um no we've got a dual use agreement with them although they're outside of the district boundary because they they they have children from the local villages that are within South Cambridge you go into that school um they we so they would be eligible to apply because they have a dual use agreement but I don't believe they have the exercise on referral scheme at the moment so I think they would probably score down given the scoring criteria we've allocated to this that said we might use this as an opportunity to prompt them to start that scheme so um yeah there should be something positive coming out of it thank you Catherine so okay then colleagues um paragraph 18 page six options grants committee advisory committee could recommend the member for finance to do we have a choice or would you yeah so you've got the the options that we've presented presented are to agree the criteria that we've presented and our evaluation methodology for applications which you'll be familiar with because we're going to try and follow the zero carbon communities grants um evaluation method there um we would as officers make recommendations only not decisions but make recommendations to lead members so to John Williams and he would make the decisions the final decisions on the grants would be awarded um that's option a you could um make amendments to that if you want to specify any amendments to that then that's option b if you need further information then option c is there um however we are being told by finance that it would be quite um good to get this money spent sooner rather than later so thanks Catherine I mean I think really option a is the route to go correctly you've done all the work anyway so this is a case of uh a recommendation to council William fleet finance okay are we agreed with option a let's agree then so that there's a unanimous there uh Aaron yeah go to the next agenda which is the auction five agenda item five gambling aid guardians is that you again Catherine yes that's me again I'm afraid sorry um this this is um you remember that the council allocated full funding to increase the um the coverage across the district of what are mostly known as mobile warden schemes and gambling gay community warden scheme gambling gay guardians community warden scheme was successful in their application um that all was free COVID and they have struggled to attract members to their fee paying scheme um largely because actually there was a really positive response from volunteers across the village who have been able to support older vulnerable people free of charge um that said there is a desire to move those people across to the gambling gay scheme eventually um because we know that with a formalised scheme comes some uh safeguarding uh health and safety and other other policies and procedures that are followed so we would like to see them move across this proposal um comes following a request from the scheme to amend their delivery model slightly so that they can reduce their fees to clients in the hope that it will make their scheme more attractive amongst a few other changes they'd like to make um and the other upside of this I think would be that they won't that wouldn't then need the additional funding that we were going to ask them to apply for in October 22 as you'll remember the full is quite complicated but the full funding that they have had for two years will come to an end at that point which is in the middle of a three-year scheme that's already been decided and runs to the end of 24 so for 18 months in theory they wouldn't have had a scheme from south camps to apply to in the way that all the other established schemes would have had so we agreed at the last meeting of this community on the 30th of April to reference some of that unspent funding uh for that purpose so that gambling gay could apply if they needed to that won't now be necessary because having um changed their model they're happy to try to make the funding they've been allocated already go right the way through to the end of that that three-year scheme they won't need any more funding assuming the scheme gets up and running and is successful until after that point and when there is a new scheme that they can apply to anyway I hope that makes sense um but so that that's that's where there's a two-part decision here really and recommendations on both counts um one is that they should be allowed to leave their uh to amend this their scheme criteria um and the other is that we reassign that funding that we had set aside and put it into the pot with the other funding that was allocated and reassigned to the service support grants for 22 to 25 again you probably remember that decision from last from last time thank you Catherine John do you want to say anything John sorry you look like you are yeah yes thank you thank you Catherine yeah my my only um concern with this is I don't want to see um a lower set of standards applied but I think Catherine's reassured us that that's not the case so I think on that basis um you know I think we need to give them the opportunity to to to try and make it work yeah I think this is a problem actually we've been facing right across the district that clearly last year when we set up the support um to local communities to enable them to go and help those you need um it did clearly affect the mobile warden scheme um because why would you pay for something uh that you would get three you know three um but I think we're starting to see the scheme starting to wind down now and I think the important thing about this is reason why we want to run this scheme is to give it continuity assurance and all the benefits of being part of a scheme that's overseen by the council as well as part funded by the council and I think hopefully people will recognise the importance of that going forward but yeah I'm I'm you know I'm fully agree with the recommendation here um I think gambling game you know should be treated as special case at the moment and I wish them well and I hope that they can get the um get the support and the number of clients they need to make it a success thank you John Catherine the other thing I would say of course is that actually with the other poster of the work that we're doing as a council we should we should be able to put some development community development type time into supporting schemes that old people have been supported by COVID volunteers moving them across to more formalised schemes that they've got that support and we we are reassured that there are the safeguarding policies in place that need to be of course during the COVID pandemic some things some things were relaxed and volunteers were able to go and support vulnerable people in the community and what we want to do is sort of tidy that up a bit as not that not the volunteers haven't done a fantastic job but some of them are falling away they are going back to work they are um fatigued because they've been doing it for so long um and in other in other ways there might just be a risk either to the volunteer or to the vulnerable person themselves that um something could go wrong so we'd like to move them across um gradually to to more formal schemes anyway and in gambling games I think they've decided that if they were to amend their delivery model allow people to have um fun calls instead of visits pay less and so on and so forth it will help attract people across to that scheme so Leslie will also be doing some working gambling games to sort of try and smooth that process as well thank you Catherine I think we're um obviously I'm sorry Claire um yes I just want to check um that this service is open again to different to people of different ages um 0.14 under the details paragraph um the warden does feel that many vulnerable people and their extended families will be interested in a less intensive scheme I mean it's not just aimed at the elderly is it warden schemes and community warden schemes are aimed at older frailer residents as well as those who might be in some way physically disabled um of any age so it's about the vulnerability as opposed to the age yes yeah I understand that I I well understand that the mobile warden scheme and the elderly but I I do just want to emphasize that um you know it's not just the elderly who are vulnerable particularly at the moment but I'm yeah I'm in favour of what's set out in the paper lovely I think in that case we're going to build looking at so we have agreement that we might cover the recommendation is that okay so it's uh that'll be under the options I wouldn't mean section 10 I would imagine that'd be A would you agree Catherine yeah so in that case that's uh a unanimous for A is that A in both cases so for recommendation one so to allow the gambling gay scheme to amend their um their delivery model and then with regard to recommendation two what you do with that remaining funding that won't now be needed by gambling gay we just thought we'd better formalize that decision as well yeah yeah so that would also be A yeah yeah right I think I think that brings us to the uh end of our agenda just like to say thank you Catherine for uh stepping in and covering that that's lovely thank you very much John thank you very much for bearing with us for all this this whole process I think it's been very successful and I'm hoping obviously that the comms team will put out the the various good news uh to everywhere that we've managed to do this as a a council as the team the whole team together wonderful so thank you very much so that just leaves me to say to members officers and any members of public that are listening in or watching in shall I say um that uh the next meeting will be scheduled on the 25th of June Friday 25th of June at 10 am I would imagine is he going to be the same setup as now it's the same setup as now so that'll be for members of the public to sign in and view but for us it's a thank you very much and it's a good night from him good night