 everyone. I have just started the recording of the session today. Thank you for connecting. I'm sure the students will join us today. Thursday the 16th of September. Thank you for connecting to this mentoring hour. We just take time to ask and discuss questions, things of interest. Let's get started with the time of just a moment of prayer. Just pray and then we will get started. Okay, could one of us just pray and then we will start. Okay, Monika, would you like to pray please? Okay, thank you. Thank you. All right, so today Pastor Jekumar will host the question and answer time. I'll just quickly answer that question that was in the last stream. Sid Kenu had put a question about lending money. I have posted a response, but I will just quickly mention it and then I'll hand it off to Pastor Jekumar. There are some scriptures in the Old Testament and the one that was pointed out was Psalm 155, where the Bible is telling us basically not to give money out on interest, the old King James Version usury. Yeah, so basically it's lending money on interest. So the question is, well, you know, banks give money out on interest and all of that. So is it all wrong? So what we needed is just to go back into the Old Testament context in which it is given. So when we look at the Old Testament context, originally when it was given, and I mentioned the references there. One is in Deuteronomy 23 and the other one is Leviticus 25. The Lord basically, God basically says, you don't take interest from your own brother or from the poor, a person who can't afford, you know, their own things. So from them, you don't. But from a foreigner, that means somebody who's coming in, obviously they come in because they do have the means and the funds, you take interest. So that's the Old Testament context. So even in the Old Testament, they were permitted to take interest, but from the right people. And they were told not to take interest from their own brother or from the poor. And so in the Old Testament, you see Nehemiah chapter five, Nehemiah rebukes the governors because they were taking interest from the very poor of the land. Things were very hard at that time. And they were making the poor pay interest. And so he made them cancel everything. So that's the Old Testament. But when you come to the New Testament, very interesting in the parable of the talents, Jesus gives money to the one person who didn't do anything. He says, at least you should give in my money out on interest and earn something. So even Jesus himself says, that's a positive thing to do. You give your money out to earn some interest. So to sum up, God is not against earning interest or giving money out on interest, but you have to do it from the right people. You don't exploit the poor. Don't exploit your own brother, your own relation. But otherwise, in a sense of business, in the sense of commerce, yeah, that's how business happens. You give money out, somebody does something, they pay it back to you on interest. So that's fine. Okay, so I hope that answers your questions. Can you hand it off now to Pastor Jay Kumar? Thank you, Pastor. Welcome. Very good. Thank you. Hey, welcome everyone for this week's mentoring hour. And here, John Paul has two questions. The first one, for he who sows to his flesh will off the flesh reap corruption, but he who sows to the spirit will off the spirit will reap everlasting life, Galatians 6-8. How can we sow into the spirit? Does this passage talk about sowing financially or anything else? So that's the first question. So probably we'll handle that first and then go on to the second one. First question. Would anybody like to answer this, Galatians 6? So, yeah, John, that's a good question. And, you know, as we would do in all of Paul's writings, or for that matter, anybody's writings, it's always good to look in what the writer would be having in his mind. So this whole idea of sowing to the flesh and sowing to the spirit are not the idea, but the truth on sowing to the flesh and sowing to the spirit. In Paul's writings, you know, he brings this out in Romans chapter 8 very clearly, right? There he talks about, you know, life in the spirit, life in the flesh. So Galatians 6, although, you know, so we look at the whole chapter, the first few verses are talking about, you know, bearing your own burdens, restoring somebody who's fallen, then he does talk about giving to the needs of people, right? So he says, you know, that he was taught in the Word, give to him who teaches. And then he transitions to this whole thing of sowing to the flesh and sowing to the spirit. So many times people can actually interpret Galatians 6-8 in the light of the preceding two verses, saying, oh, you know, we have to give to the people. But really, this is the conclusion of an episode. So he's hitting on many points, you know, like when you're finishing up a letter, okay, tuk-tuk-tuk, you're touching on many points. So that's what he's doing here is concluding Galatians. And so he's talking about, you know, sowing to the flesh and sowing to the spirit. So in the context of the, in the mind of the writer, it's not about money because scripture must be interpreted interpreted in the light of the rest of scripture. So you go into what else did the Apostle write, Romans 8. That's the context. It's about walking in the spirit or walking in the flesh. So to walk in the flesh means you are living to satisfy or gratify the sinful evil desires of the flesh. So he says, same thing, he repeats in Romans chapter 8. You know, we can read the first 13 verses. So basically he says, if you sow to the flesh, you will die. If you sow to the flesh, you're an enemy of God. If you sow to the flesh, you won't, you will not have life and peace. So that's the same thing. If you sow here, Galatians 6-8, if you sow to the flesh, you will read corruption, decay. But if you sow to the spirit, what, how do you sow to the spirit? Romans 8 explains you have to mind the things of the spirit. That means you're setting your, your affections, your desires, your, you know, your pursuits on things of the spirit, things that are led by the spirit, given by the Holy Spirit. That is sowing to the spirit. And then when you do that, there is life. It's actually a paddle scripture to Romans chapter 8 and verses 8 and 9. It's just a paddle scripture. So that's how we should understand Galatians 6. You're using scripture to interpret scripture. You're using the context of the writer to interpret scripture. Right? So the paddle scripture is Romans 6, Romans 8, 5 through 8 to Galatians 6-8. Is that okay? Yes, Pastor. Okay. Thank you. I'll hand it back to you. Right, Pastor. So, so the actual work of sowing would be thinking, speaking, acting, everything in line with the, being led by the spirit and, and also the opposite of that, right? Okay. Okay. So there's, thank you, Pastor. So the next question is from now on, let no one trouble me for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus, Galatians 6-17. Sorry, 6-17. I'm sorry. So the question is, what would it mean to bear in body the marks of the Lord Jesus? So he actually writes this in conclusion to the entire epistle. And just before greeting them, he just makes this statement from let no one trouble me for I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. Would anybody like to take up this question? Yeah. Sorry to jump in again here. But again, we do the same thing. We look at parallel scriptures written by the same author, Paul. So in 2 Corinthians chapter four was 10 and 11, he uses the same language. So 2 Corinthians 4, 10 and 11, he says, we are in I carry in my body the dying of the Lord Jesus. Verse 11, we are delivered for, delivered to death for Jesus' sake. So basically he's referring to all the, the, the beatings, the physical persecutions that he suffered in his body for the sake of Jesus Christ. So just a quick question. Since Galatians, he's also addressing the whole thing of circumcision and the brethren who are asking, teaching that people need to keep the law. Would it also, is he also making reference to, you know, the thing of law and the circumcision? Is it also that? He's saying, I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus. Yeah, but circumcision would not be a mark of Jesus, right? It's a, it's an old covenant thing. Yeah, referring to that, saying that, you know, people do it. Yeah, I think we cannot put, because the, the whole thing is the circumcision is something, okay, all of them have, you know, all the Jews have it. It's nothing special to Paul. It has nothing to do with Jesus, you know. So he can't say, well, I bear in my marks. Well, all the Jews then, if it was circumcision, then well, all the Jews bear in their body the marks of Jesus, but that's not true. But in the context here in Galatians 6, if you, he talks about, you know, suffering persecution for the cross of Christ, which is verse 12, end of verse 12. And, and then, so there's the context there. And then in verse 17, he says, don't trouble me. You know, I bear in my body the marks of Jesus. So if you just look at it in the, in the light of what else he's written, and in the context of what he actually went through, you know, like second Corinthians 11 talks about, you know, how many times he was beaten and so on. So just to clarify, I was not referring that to circumcision, but Paul refuting circumcision, you know, refuting the law, refuting the circumcision, saying, I actually, you know, I've suffered and I've carried this affliction. Oh, would he have that? Would he have that? Yeah, that thought about refuting circumcision. Yeah, yes. The context definitely is refuting circumcision. Yes. Right, right. Okay. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, so is there any other question? Okay, second Corinthians 11, that's, that's what Pastor was sharing. Yeah, he's talking about what Rupa said that the scripture about all the hardships that he went through as an apostle in his journey and so on, how he's beaten and shipwrecked and so on. Thank you, Rupa, for sharing that. Okay. Does anyone else have any other question? So the questions can be, you know, of theological in nature, it could be about following, about on discipleship, it could be about church, the body of Christ, it could be of any of these topics, or maybe something that you came across in class and you wanted to clarify that. So you could post your questions here. Anyone? There's a question from Jordan. Soul aspect of stigmata. Marks of the Lord Jesus does that also refer to stigmata. I think Pastor clarified that in context in which the context in which Paul writes that particular, or makes that particular statement. So that's very clear. But this whole aspect of stigmata would someone like to answer? Pastor, would you like to clarify, you know, I think certain church backgrounds believe in that and revere that? Yeah. Yeah, Jordan, are you referring to stigmata like in the Catholic church context? Is that how you're referring to it? Or are you? So because the word stigmata, okay. So the word stigmata, I was looking at the meaning of the word stigmata. So it can be used in two contexts. One is just, you know, it's a stigma. It's a sign of disgrace. Whereas the stigma, which is in the Catholic church context, which I don't know too much about. So I don't think I can speak much on it. I'm just looking at, you know, it's talking about marks corresponding to those left on Christ's body by the crucifixion and have been impressed by the one favor on the bodies of St. Francis and others. Okay. So I guess the Catholic church is using it as, okay, these are the marks of Jesus being born or being made to appear in people's bodies, like St. Francis or Franciscine others. I, with all respect to the Catholic church, okay, for me, I don't believe that's what Paul is referring to. Paul is referring to his own personal actual physical persecutions. So it was not a transference of Christ's, first of all, Christ's body is whole, you know, so he's not, Jesus not walking around in heaven with marks in his hands today. He's whole. He's, he's the healer. I'm sure he had been healed 2000 years ago. So Christ is not walking around with, you know, the crucifixion marks in heaven. He's in a glorified state. That's the first thing. Second, what Paul is referring to is definitely the persecutions that he has born in his own body. They were not a sign given or there's not something Jesus put on Paul saying, okay, now you're my blessed servant or something, you know, that's not it. He's just talking about his own actual physical marks. So that's how I would understand what Paul has written here in Galatians 6-7-T. The whole idea of stigmata, which would be something in my opinion, and I am speaking with respect to the Catholic Church, the idea of stigmata as used by the Catholic Church is a man-made tradition. It has nothing to do with Jesus. It has nothing to do with the Bible. So we just leave it alone. Is it okay? Jordan? Thank you, Pastor. Thanks for clarifying that. I have a question. Okay. Go ahead, Nancy. Okay, Pastor, just wanted to ask this question. In 1 John 2 and verse 1, Jesus is spoken of as our advocate, but we already know that because of the work of the cross, he has justified us. So in his ministry as advocate now, like, how is he functioning? That's a question that I'm trying to answer. So any thoughts on that? Yeah. So the Bible just uses the term advocate to both Jesus and the Holy Spirit. So the Holy Spirit is also our advocate. In John 14, he's the paracletos, and one of the meanings of the word paracletos is advocate. So we have an advocate in heaven, who is Jesus. We have an advocate on earth with us, who is the Holy Spirit. So we must understand it in the context of what has happened. That means the enemy has already been condemned. Satan has been condemned. John 16, Jesus said, now is the ruler of this world judged. So Satan has already been judged. So we are not fighting a court case. The court case was finished when Jesus did his work on the cross. So Satan has been condemned. We have been just like you said. So in what sense would Jesus be as an advocate there? Not to fight our cases, but to stand there as somebody who has been the one who has dismissed our case. So when we go before God, we already have the person, the very person who handled our case and who took care of it completely, once for all obtaining eternal redemption for us, and he's standing there in heaven. So we have all the more boldness to go before God, because the advocate who did it for us is right there. In the same sense, the Holy Spirit is our advocate here on earth. That means he's here to make sure that the provisions made for us by our covenant is available to us that nobody, the Satan and his demons will not violate what has been granted to us. So we work in cooperation with the Holy Spirit to walk in what has already been granted to us. So in that sense, we understand the role of Jesus as an advocate before the Father and the Holy Spirit as our advocate here on earth. Yes, Pastor. Thank you, Understood. Thank you so much. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you Nancy for that question. We have another question from Sidgen and Robert. I know that Catholics are a different denomination, but what is the difference between Methodist and Baptist and how are they different from us? And if someone should ask me what denomination I'm from, what should I say, Protestant, I believe in the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues, would someone like to answer this question? Probably Paul, if you want to take this up. Sure, Pastor. I'll just share whatever little I know. So Sidgen, thank you for the question. Now, if we look at church history, the first century, the second century church, we see that from the second century church, the church was strong, but then through people, denominations had started. So difference between, if you're asking between Methodist, Baptist, and now there were small differences, but the whole core of, so if you track from the second century church, the core of all of them, all these denominations was that they believed in Jesus, they believed in the work of the Holy Spirit. Now, if somebody asks you which denomination you are in, you can just tell them that you're a Bible-believing, you're in a Bible-believing church, but the key here is that it's not a denomination that really matters, because if we go back to church history, if we keep studying in this, there are plenty of denominations like Anabaptists and so then all of them have their own ideas. For example, the Methodists, John Wesley, they were very methodical in the way they shared the word and the messages. John Wesley was known for that, and then the Baptist movement. And so these different movements did come through people, but then the important thing to understand is that all of them, their focus was Jesus, their focus was the work of the Holy Spirit. And so if somebody asks you what denomination you are in, you can go ahead and say whichever denomination you're in, but then the point is that you are following the Lord Jesus, you're trusting in this Word, you're walking in the Word of God. So I hope that gives you a little bit of clarity. It says that you believe in the Holy Spirit speaking in tongues. So I think which denomination should not really be the driving factor, but then you can always, people ask you, you can say, I'm in this denomination, but then this is what I believe in, the Word of God, I believe in the Lord Jesus and the work of the Holy Spirit. And so I would just want to leave you with that. Thank you. Thank you, Master. Thank you, Paul. Yeah. So denominations, we know that these were birthed because of the, actually the restorative moves of God, the moves of the Holy Spirit. So not necessarily a bad thing, but the fact that people gave a lot of emphasis to a particular teaching. And sometimes what the tragic thing is, not choosing to move beyond that, but very sincere, very devoted to the Lord even. So that's the thing. So that's why we see the Methodist denomination, emphasis on certain core teachings, and maybe not really focusing on other things. So that's why we see different denominations, Lutheran, Baptist, Methodist, and so on. And all had their roots in all sincerity, the work of the Holy Spirit, God raising our people to bring in reformation, to bring in change to the status quo of the church. So that's how these are birthed. So yeah. And I like Paul's, first of Paul shared, you could just say that, I'm from this, I worship here, but this is what I believe in. That will be a great way to start a conversation and also maybe even explain to people what you believe and lead people to Christ and so on. Yeah. Yeah. Hope that helps Robert. Okay. We have another question from Diana. This is based on Matthew 7, 21 to 23. Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name, drive out demons? And if your name perform many miracles, then I will tell them plainly, I never knew you away from me, you evil doers. Yeah. Matthew 7, 21 to 23. Would anyone like to take up this question and answer? I believe, I think the question is really because these people did so many things in their name and the Lord turns around and says, I never knew you away from me, you evil doers. So, Apostle, if I may just quickly, you know, as I had, I think one thing is amazing is that Jesus is claiming that he is the one that the people will be standing before on the final day of judgment and he is the one who will rightly be called as Lord. And so Jesus is saying that one. And I think in a very simple way like Diana asked from what I can take off this text is more than anything we do, you know, in his name or in ministry, you know, we can do, we can be busy with what, you know, what we are called to do in ministry and whatnot. But I think at the end of the day, Jesus longs for that relationship. And I think that's what he means when he says, I never knew you. And that word new is just translated into intimacy, the intimate relationship. This also means that we can do a lot of things for him in ministry and without really having an intimate relationship with him. But then there are also things that we can do in his, in his kingdom for his kingdom and ministry with intimate relationship. And I think it's the second one that Jesus also longs for. Yeah, that's my simple takeaway. Yeah, thank you. Thank you, Roshan. Yeah. Would you like to share an answer? Yes, yes, faster. Yes. Thank you, Pastor Roshan. I wanted to add a few thoughts to what you said just now. So in this passage, Diana, the other thing we see here is, you know, what Jesus is saying that there are people who do a lot of things in the name of, in the name of God. But then we also see like, when Jesus talks about the works that he did, he did the Father's work. So he always had the emphasis of doing what God has called him to do. And I think that also is applicable. So, you know, we could do a lot of things in the name of God. But what really matters is to do the will of the Father. I think it's in John 5 and verse 19 where he talks about doing the will of the Father, which is important. Then the other thought that I want to add here is, as he says, I never knew you. So emphasis on personal relationship with God. So that is important for God. So one is doing the Father's will. The second one is personal relationship with God. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor James. Thank you. Thank you, Nancy. Another verse is also, I mean, Poshna scripture is also John chapter 15, where the Lord says, you know, about fruitfulness and also abiding, that unless it abides in the wine, you know, I think it's verse four, abide in me and I in you, and the branch cannot bear fruit of itself unless it abides in the neither can you unless you abide in the wine. And also he says, you know, without me, you can do nothing. Right. So the fact that everything has to fruitfulness comes out of intimacy. And the thing of, you know, the Lord considers something as fruitful when it's from that place of intimacy. Otherwise, it can be, you know, in the Lord's eyes, it's it's not really bearing fruit. It's so here, you know, in that portion that we read, Matthew seven, it talks about that he never, you know, I never knew you, but needs to come from that place of intimacy. So yeah, let's see how I think. Okay. Okay, go ahead. Okay. Yeah, I just like to add one little thing. So when we look at the B attitudes, it talks of, you know, the specific attitudes that that God would, you know, it looks for for us to be in the kingdom of God. So it says the poor in spirit, those who mourn, those who are meat, those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, those who give mercy, those who are pure in heart, those who are peacemakers, those who are persecuted for righteousness sake. So this, these, these characteristics of these attitudes is something that God looks for in our personal relationship with, with him, as well as those with others. And, and that's glorious in his sight. Yes, I just wanted to add that. Thank you. Thank you, Jim. Pastor, would you like to share? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So, you know, everything everyone said, you know, spring all the pieces together, I just want to touch on a couple of things. I just want to touch on the strong, the language Jesus uses. You know, so here are people who are using the name of Jesus. They're doing very spiritual works, which is casting out demons, miracles, very spiritual works. And yet Jesus is calling them evil doers. He's not calling them, you know, hey, saints, I mean, evil doers means you're terrible people. So that's pretty strong language, you know, so they're using Jesus name, which is a very spiritual thing. They're doing miracles and deliverance, prophesying, very spiritual activity, but Jesus is calling them evil doers. Now, how would that be possible? As was pointed out by everyone, the first thing that Jesus is talking about is that relationship with them, because I never knew you. So, and you know, we make this statement often, not everything that's done in the name of Jesus, not everything that is done, that is supernatural, even if it's done in the name of Jesus, comes from Jesus. That's very strong. That's what he's saying. So not everything that's done in the name of Jesus, which is supernatural, because they were prophesying, delivering, doing miracles, doesn't come from Jesus. Because what determines if something comes from Jesus is the personal relationship, not just the use of the name or the demonstration of the power. So that's the very important here, that's Jesus saying. So the next follow up question, of course, is then how did these things manifest? Well, you know, the Bible tells us that this is Paul writing in 2 Corinthians 10, or 2 Corinthians 10. He talks about the messengers of Satan appearing as angels of light. So, you know, so when Satan wants to deceive us, you know, he's not going to come and say, hello, my name is Mr. D Evil. You know, he's not going to come like that, right? Because then we'll all know that's the devil. But when he comes, he's going to come in the name of the Lord. That's why he's called an Antichrist. He doesn't come as, you know, some stranger. He comes as trying to come as close, if possible in this case, using the name of the Lord itself. So he comes as a messenger of lights and but and he's doing signs and wonders. Paul writes about that, you know, in 2 Thessalonians chapter 2 talking about Satan coming with lying signs and wonders. So there are these supernatural things, there are these things coming in the name of Jesus, but the source is different. So, you know, I just want to put that in there in addition to what others have already shared. So for us, we have to be very careful. Where's what's the source? Is it coming from Jesus? Or is it coming from, you know, some other source, Satan himself, but he's trying to be as close to the real. See, the thing about the count of it is, the count of it is not something distant from the real. The count of it is as close to the real as possible, just that it is count of it. So nobody makes a count of it that looks very different from the original. The count of it is always as close to the original as possible. So we have to be careful on that. Okay. Hope that helps. And thank you for everyone who shared. Thank you, Buster. Thank you so much. Okay. So here's another question. This is from Rose. So if there's a desire in your heart, for example, to move to a new place or go back to an old place, a homeland and everything, and everyone seems to cooperate, in short, there are no or less resistance. Do we see this as an open door from God? How do we discern if God is the one leading us into it? What if in that place you've been thinking every now and then to move into that place, it also carries with it a vision to bring more people to God? Is that just us or God moving us? So that's the question. It's about knowing God's will. So if everything is okay, everything seems to fall in place. And also there's an opportunity for many people to come to know Christ. Do we conclude that it is the will of God and take that step, make that move? How do we discern? So I just want to, anyone who wants to answer that can go ahead. Knowing God's will in these kinds of situations. Yeah, Rose. Most often that's God orchestrating things in our lives. He gives us the inclination to make this move, make this change. He opens doors. He prepares the way. So I would say most often that is it. So if this desire has been in your heart for a long time and it's been there, that means it's been, it's not a transient thing. It doesn't come one day and then disappear, but it's been there in your heart, something that you felt you should do. And then these things are falling in place, the door's opening. Then that's a positive thing. But ultimately, we have to be led by the Holy Spirit. So ultimately, that's the final decision that the Holy Spirit is leading me. There are times when God will move us, but the doors may not be open yet, and he will open it as we start moving. So a closed door does not always mean God doesn't want us to go that direction. Sometimes he may want us to go in spite of the closed door just to see him open the door as we move. But usually an open door like what you're describing is something that God has prepared the way. It's an encouragement for us to go forward. But ultimately, you don't let that alone dictate the decision. It should be dictated by what you feel in your spirit from the Holy Spirit. Okay? Is that okay? Yeah. Thank you, Pastor. Thank you, Rose, for that question. We have another question from Robert. It's about his friend who's from a Sikh community and a very good man, generous man, and who's generous to the poor. And of course, the scriptures, Proverbs 1917 says that he who lends to the poor lends to the Lord who's generous to the poor lends to the Lord and so on. The generous will themselves be blessed. They will share their food. Yes. So all these scriptures in Proverbs talk about how we, what we should do and also in relationship with the Lord. So the question is, okay, he also donates quite a bit to charity and the needy and poor. So the question is, will he go to heaven for the good deeds he's doing on earth? So, well, he seems like a very noble person, a good person, a sincere man, a generous man. But we do know from scripture that salvation is through the Lord Jesus alone. And he is made a way for us to come into the kingdom of God. That is only through him, right? And several scriptures which talk about that. So it's wonderful that he's doing all these good works. And yes, you know, probably something more than what believers would do also, you know, his heart is for the poor and so on. But the fact is that good works will not take a person, will get, will, you know, help a person receive salvation. Salvation is through Jesus and Jesus alone, right? We see in John chapter three, how is one born again? The Lord explains that, John chapter three. And I just want to read one verse where he says, whoever believes in him, that is the Lord Jesus should not perish, but have eternal life. For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten Son that whoever believes in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. That's verse 16, verse 17. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through him might be saved. And verse 18 is, he who believes in him is not condemned, but he who does not believe is condemned already because he is not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. So I think it's very clear that salvation is through Jesus and through Jesus alone. And the Lord himself said, John chapter 14, verse 6, that I am the way, the truth and life, a very exclusive claim. Yeah. So yeah, just, I think you said that you're continuing to fast and pray for him. Yes, continue to do that. And just want to encourage you, Robert, that the Lord is reaching out to him in sovereign ways, probably through dreams, probably through you, when he orchestrates divine circumstances. He is reaching out to him and whatever you are doing in fasting and praying, you are partnering with him. You are a co-laborer with him in reaching the lost. So yeah, so you can continue to do that. Okay. Does that help Robert? I think Robert is not here. Okay. I think he dropped off the call. I think. Oh, you see how Robert is here. Okay. Robert, hope that helps. Okay. Let's look at the next question from Elisha. Can you help me with the explanation of John chapter 5, 22 to 24? John chapter 5, 22. Let me just read that out. For the father judges one, but has committed onto the son, that all should honor the son just as they honor the father. He who does not honor the son does not honor the father who sent him. Most assuredly, I say to you, he who hears my word and believes in him who sent me has everlasting life and shall not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life. Okay. Can you specifically tell us what exactly is your question Elisha? In the text, I want to have an understanding of what it means to keep the judgments of God and also why God has appropriated judgments to this one. Okay. So why God has committed all judgment to the son and why is it that the father judges no one? So Pastor, would you like to answer this particular question? Yeah, I think. So, you know, just a quick mention about the triune, about the Godhead, about the triune God is God, the father, God, the son, God, the Holy Spirit are co-equal and they, you know, they are one. So, and no one is superior or inferior to the other. And each person in the Godhead fully represents the Godhead. That means, so, you know, I often put it like this, the Jesus is not one-third God. Jesus is fully God. Holy Spirit is not one-third God. He is fully God. And the father is not one-third God. He is fully God. So, God, the father, God, the son, God, the spirit are co-equal. They are one. And each person of the Godhead fully represents the Godhead. So, whatever activity is performed by whether the Holy Spirit or God, the son or God, the father, it actually is the work of the Godhead itself. So, we need to understand that. So, when we say the Holy Spirit did something, well, it's God who did something. But the person, the spirit did it. But God did it because they are one. So, that's the first thing I would say here. And that even though the son, which got the son, is executing the judgment, he fully represents the Godhead. So, he's not operating in isolation, but this is the work of the God, of the Godhead. God is executing. So, we could as well say, God is judging. But the real reason, I think is, I mean, the reason here is found in verse 24. Why? Because the word that was spoken was spoken by the son. And God the son is also referred to as the eternal word. How was judgment made? Judgment is always made on the basis of word. So, even in a court of law today, when you go, how are they going to judge? They're not going to judge on somebody's whims and fancies, but they're going to judge based on the word, something that's written. This is the law of the land, and you're being judged according to what has been written. In the same way, when you understand this, God the son is the eternal word. And verse 24 says, we will be judged according to his word. So, in another place, Jesus says, let me think of it, John 5, I'm trying to recall that verse. He says, you will be judged according to my word. So, I'm trying to recall that verse. Okay. So, he says, my word judges, my word judges. Okay. Let me, if that verse comes back, I'll mention it. So, he says, you have this one thing. It is my word that judges. So, that's the other thing to understand here, is we are judged according to the word. And who spoke the word? Jesus, God the son. So, that's why I believe that he has committed all judgment to the son, because he is the eternal word. He spoke the word, and we'll be judged according to his word. But we also keep in mind that anything, any person of the God it does, they are representing the God it. Okay. Yeah. So, let me look at that. But I think the scripture, you are making reference to this. Yes. Thank you. Thank you, Lysha. You answered your own question. God bless. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you, Pastor, for the clarity. Thank you, Pastor. But I guess that's all we have time for today. So, thank you all for joining. Thank you for all those questions. Really, really interesting questions helped us learn so much. And thank you faculty for answering these questions. Why don't we pray and we'll get back to our classes? Why don't we just pray? Father, we thank you for this day. We thank you for this time that we spent in your presence. We thank you for your word. God, so much wisdom. Lord, directing us, leading us, convicting us. And Lord, I just pray that they will continue to be a rich deposit of your word in our hearts, Lord, even as we journey through life. Father, we commit this day into your mighty hands. We pray that you'll continue to speak to us, even as we seek you and seek your presence. We thank you. In Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Awesome. Thank you. Have a great day and God bless. We'll see you again next week. Bye-bye. Thank you. God bless you, Pastor. Bye-bye.