 One simple jig every new woodworker should have inside measuring sticks. So here's the problem. I'm trying to get an inside measurement. This could be a drawer, it could be a cabinet, it could be anything. You are always trying to do measurements inside of something. Are you going to take your measuring tape and put it up there and then try to get it down in the corner and then try to guess at where that actually is precisely. First of all you are going to bend your measuring tape and eventually it will break. But no, there is a better way, a very simple tip. Take, this is not the most complicated build in the world folks. Take a piece of wood, whatever length you want it to be. Long enough so that when you slide the pieces it will measure the things you want to measure. No big problem. If you have something else you want to measure it smaller, larger, then just build some more at that time. So anyway, take a piece of wood, cut it, cut it. And now it's exactly what you need. Take a little inexpensive clip. I think I got about 15 of these for 10 bucks. That clip doesn't hold it real tight so you can put it down here, stretch these out to get to the two sides. And then you try to measure, no you don't measure that. You pull it out to where it's convenient to you. And 20 and 15, 16. So now I got a confidence, I got a correct measurement. Very simple jig. Make yourself several. Keep them handy. Don't stick them in the bottom of a drawer somewhere. Otherwise you won't use them. You'll just guess at your measurement. That is a simple jig every woodworker should have. Small workshop guy, signing off. One simple jig every new woodworker would hold it and then measure it. So probably be better if you measured it where your fingers were not in the way. So.