 To finish the game he will remember that for a lifetime and as we said he's become a hugely popular almost a cult figure here at Stanford both. Yo what did Bronny say? He didn't say anything. This was actually that was actually in my bed as someone from an Asian background you know I care a lot about school. I don't think anyone wants to hear this and it kind of sucks but it's like. Do you think if you would have got a better shot you could have started in Ivy Leagues? Because like one of my boys he plays at like Caltech. He was like clowning me. I mean scored yet. I did it. I think I did it for too long which I think in hindsight was not like a great decision. Alright everybody we are sitting down with Roy Yon who is the most viral Asian walk on D1 basketball player ever. Y'all was going on Roy. Appreciate it. Thanks for that. Alright Roy before we get into it I just got to play some of the clips. I got to play Rice in My Veins and I'm going to play the one that you hit on Bronny. To finish the game he will remember that for a lifetime and as we said he's become a hugely popular almost a cult figure here at Stanford both amongst his teammates and amongst his students here. Students want shots from these walk ons. Healer finds a shot. You know but beyond those clips first of all those are two good clips. You say you only got two clips those are two good clips but also you got a bunch of views on your YouTube videos too. Like you're doing one on ones you've beaten all the YouTube influencers have you lost yet? No but I haven't played that many games also. Alright so you dude I think that you would have a pretty good chance against a lot of people. But yeah I guess just like tell them who you are man. Roy you on. Oh what's up I'm Roy. I just I'm about to graduate from Stanford but for the past years I was a walk on for the basketball team and at Stanford I studied computer science where I'll be getting my masters and bachelor's in. So you're going to be a master's in computer science. You're hitting threes on Bronny. You are doing the ice in my veins celebration. We just played some basketball together. You're pretty good. You're very hard to guard. I can confirm if my confirmation means anything. Roy is good. Scores at will when I'm guarding him pretty much. Real quick I mean what did you average you said one playoffs in high school you averaged like 32? Yeah no first no I appreciate that Andrew you're quite the elite defender yourself so it's good getting reps against me. If you didn't have the micro tears in the Achilles right now. I'm technically injured too but anyways thanks Roy. I attended Nidus but yeah yeah so I was a little I got I got the handicap but in high school um like my senior year was a little weird because just senior uh like in season uh against like the leagues in like the teams in league I was just kind of on and off because uh I hurt my back trying to do deadlifts because um I always thought it was like you put more weight like stronger you'll get higher you'll jump right and then uh yeah I was wrong because I did like deadlifts with really poor form and then I ended up hurting my lord. I did I guess looking back on it when you were killing in high school even though it wasn't a very tough division right were you thinking that you were going to go on and play D1 basketball or were you thinking maybe I'll just uh play at MIT or play at wherever and like just you know drop 30 but you know how people in D3 if you just even if you have 30 in D3 nobody cares. Yeah I think there are like some like very talented hoopers in like D3 I'd say like a lot of them are uh like very good players in high school but for myself I always wanted to like go to like D1 you know play at the top level and uh just be on the team at the top level and uh like I mean Stanford is like right next to home and like as someone from an Asian background you know I care a lot about school so and Stanford is like pretty solid school I think so I think that was like the no-brainer like like place I wanted to go the only problem is they only recruit like five stars four stars and uh I was not a five star nor a four star so walking on was really like the only chance I had so getting to the school like first was like kind of the like the first step for me and then once I got in walking on then seemed like a possibility. I mean I feel like right now you're kind of like living the dream for any Asian tech guy who likes basketball like this is the dream like any academic Asian guy who likes but it's like dreaming of walking on to a D1 school and like at least doing something cool at least having highlights you know what I mean like I guess potentially your season because you weren't getting a lot of actual playing time right but like potentially your season could have not had these highlights right and it could have just passed by as far as social media wise. Yeah no for sure I'm definitely like super like grateful and like uh like appreciative of like the opportunity like the coach um he definitely didn't like even have to give me like an opportunity he didn't have to like take me as an integer to like even get me within the system he didn't even have to like take a look at my game you know but uh like he gave me an opportunity and I kind of just I guess I took advantage of like most of the most of like the chances I got. I would say you seized the moment. Yeah like how was it were you the they had you as a team manager knowing that you always had a chance to get on the team and what would in one day in practice did you just hit go 50 for 50 from three and they're like are you you're on the team. No they like I mean they always knew like like I could shoot like we have this thing called like the 50-50 drill and like players usually do it like a good score it would be like 42 or 43 out of like 50 I think like the first time I did I got like a 46 or something. So they were already like okay this guy can really like they always knew like a shoot but then it was kind of just like the like like the physicality like the canny guard like canny guard like type of like wait so you were ready to be just the basketball manager the entire season meaning. No I walked in like I like the first meeting I had with the coach I um funny story I actually had I actually had like shoe inserts in so I could be like six two like you could think I was a little taller you know put the shoe lifts a little bit more physical. Hey that's a that's a good hinge date tip too. Dude well you know what you weren't going on a date but you were trying to impress somebody so that's why you put the shoe lifts. Much more important than any date. Yeah so you got you did you get the two inch lift so I'm off amazon with the gel inserts or what would you do to get the. Yeah I got the I got the gel ones but unfortunately like they sunk so I didn't like get as much high as I wanted. So you're so you're like yeah yeah yeah I could guard bro yeah like to be honest I mean like our coach is like six four so it didn't even matter so it's like in the grand scheme of things like did it really like help that much like probably not but I don't know. Who who do they compare your game to because obviously I watch you play right I said a prime you know Evan Fournier bloody healed just do the do the your form lower release point but you get it off really quick like who do people compare your game to in the NBA in the NBA sense like obviously not that you play like that in D1 your highlights are more like spot of threes and stuff like that but like you know overall like when they see it just just a vision at the I mean I mean dude I like the rec center I'm like a I'm like a Walmart Steph Curry you know I feel like it's like all I really do is like shoot through I don't really I don't I don't drive it all because I don't want to like get injured or anything at the rec center at least so I gravitate towards shooting threes most of the time so yeah Walmart Steph Curry probably Walmart Steph Curry also you know Bay Area I guess like what did you learn about this whole thing about this whole journey about like Asian representation or how people view Asians or how people maybe perceive you or the type of Asian you present as I think like it's I think it's like it's like very humbling for myself because you know I think about it when I just shot like shot like over like brown here I don't think he was even like guarding me I think like it was just a wide open shot yeah how come he didn't close out like did he not no he didn't like he almost got it too like oh no he did close out yeah he closed out late though right yeah but it's like he wasn't like yeah no I think like some people like the way they've been like portraying it though it's like they're blowing like out of context it's like oh like I scored on him it's like it sounds like you read the titles like oh like I crossed him up and like dunked on him or something right but it's really just like I caught it and like I shot it and he just like did a long close out which is like like something that it's like very like typical like emboss for it but I think like just myself like being an Asian person and then like like brown obviously like he's a great player you know like McDonald's all-american like having the accolades that he has and being like the player that he is like him like being in the same like frame like as me I think a lot of people like saw it as like an unlikely matchup and like they like yeah it's like blown out of proportion a little bit I think and I think I get like more credit than than I deserve but I think at the same time because it's something like so unlikely that I like something unnatural that like people see I think that's kind of why it happened I want to talk about the rice in my veins well that's what people call it on Twitter is rice in my veins because you're Asian right but when you did the ice in my veins thing a lot of people thought that was a cool celebration but like were you always doing that in practice were you always kind of clowning around and doing that no like how did you know to do that in the game because you're a walk-on so you're kind of getting in when you guys are pretty much already won the game yeah so then you're kind of having fun with it but did you like get in trouble for that or how did you know to do the cool celebration or did it just overcome you in the moment oh no I got in trouble for sure yeah yeah so like when I first joined the team so I joined like the middle of like my my senior year right I put like one game one two games I think it didn't score and then uh like my surprise actually like signed me for the next year my uh like my master's year also and I was like dude I like I need to score because like one of my boys he plays at like Caltech he was like clowning me he's like do you haven't even scored yet man I was like I was like man I got it like I got a score you know so then at the like back of my head like when I joined the team I was like you know like how cool would it be if I did like if I made it and then I did like a parody of the ice in my veins thing with like the rice in my veins thing right because just in like high school I never really had the opportunity to do that because our coach was kind of like he didn't like he's old school he's old school he didn't really like like celebrate you don't like the NBA stuff right yeah and I was like like dude this is like maybe my last opportunity right so like do something like cool like that and then it's like it's like the first thing I got to do is like hit a three right and then we were playing Eastern Washington like they're a great team I think they won their like uh like their league and everything so like very solid team but we were beating them by like a good amount I got some run and then there was like five six seconds left I think and then like my teammate got a miss free throw and then like we just kind of looked at each other and then like we just like nodded and he threw me the ball and then I took like one dribble from half court kind of just like launched it like through a prayer like it was deep like 28 30 feet yeah I don't know looking back it was far it didn't feel like that far when I shot it but then like looking back it was it was far than I thought right but then like yeah I made a run I was like you know I like I rarely shoot it like and when I shoot it like what are the odds that I make it right so how many shots did you take taken before then it missed in game I think like two I had I had I remember I remember my first shot was against Green Bay so I was like it was my second game ever we were up like 40 50 and then like my shoes weren't even tied properly because I was like yeah like second game right and the coach calls my name and then I was like oh shoot like I'm going in right so like I also like what was it called I like I blew by my defender and like I kind of got through the lane and then what's it called there was a 610 guy I was like yeah this guy's like I'm about to get pinned right but then like I shot I shot like he came a little slow and then I shot the layup like over him right but then kind of like rattled out so damn a little unfortunate so you hit the three you do the rice in the veins it goes viral it gets posted BR hoops what is it sports center I'm not sure I don't know about sports center but BR you know some of the hoops it goes internet viral for sure at least in the hoops world yeah and especially the asian hoops world like the asian-american hoops world uh then yeah I mean it was cool to see like BR like hoops posted because like I mean for myself I watched them a lot obviously then next thing you know like I woke up in the morning I was like scrolling like through Instagram and I see myself like like first of all like cool like I'm on here in the second of all it's like wonder how like the coach is gonna feel because they're like so so what what how did you get in trouble like what trouble did you get in I think it was like a like a like a sportsmanship thing I think the moment I was kind of just like this might never happen again like I need to like get this like uh I need to get like this moment because it'll be funny right I like it but I think I did it I think I did it for too long which I think in hindsight was not like a great decision because there was still like three four seconds left on the clock right and then like I locked eyes with the camera guy I was like I was like you know like please get this right so I just kept walking towards them while like everyone on the team was like running back on defense right you know there was like four seconds left so then it was uh I mean I think honestly that's what made the clip good though is that you kind of did it OD yeah I think it looked like the other team called a to like that's how long you were doing it like you did it like D low you know like for real you did it like you know what it is I think ultimately you stayed on the team you didn't get kicked off the team for doing that obviously and then you went viral and I think that it's messed up I mean I don't think it's a huge sportsmanship violation to be honest it's not the biggest one come on you didn't like you didn't throw the ball at anybody's face or anything but like I think I'm glad you did it I'm glad you did it man because I think like it put a spotlight on you as a baller and now this not so known baller gets this attention and now I think it's kind of funny because like a lot of people look at you they can't really tell how good you are at balling by looking at you you know you're like unassuming you didn't like you don't got the lineup you didn't get the fade you didn't like you don't got tattoos you're not like you're pretty much playing like the yeah like the you're like a computer science guy so I guess how does that feel did you did you like I'm looking through the comments on BR hoops right now somebody said damn rice gum really made it other people of course the jeremy lin comparisons like they're gonna make like accounting jokes and stuff like that but like uh consulting jokes maybe you know but like I guess how do you feel about all that like kind of like breaking the stereotype of like this of like the model minority that like I got showtime too I can hit the three and then celebrate like Dilo yeah I think like I mean in the moment I wasn't really thinking about any of that but I think like now that you do mention it I do think like I mean at the end of the day I can't really control like what anyone on the internet says about like me right but then I guess like like if a shot goes in that like a like a shot goes in or you can call me like you can call someone like an accountant like engineer or whatever but at the end of the day it's like like like the shot went in so it's uh I mean I guess there's always like like a record of that well why do you think so many of the d1 asian hoopers they almost like have more but I don't want to say a stereotypical asian look but like you know Jeremy very academic had a perfect score in his SAT Kasey Tominaga went crazy this year for Nebraska probably people wouldn't look at him and think that he plays was gonna play like Steph essentially you know what I mean or like you know I mean people wouldn't look at you and be like necessarily think like you know you know like all tatted up or anything like that um I'm not sure I don't I don't want to like say anything for like other people because I'm not sure like about their situation but like for myself at least I think like a lot of it comes I guess with the like a level of like discipline or something right you had a very disciplined childhood as well right yeah I'm not saying that like tattoos or anything are disciplined but like for myself growing up like it wasn't like I could just go play basketball like anytime I wanted right it was like I would always go to like the YMCA but like I was in middle school at the time I couldn't drive or anything right and my parents would only take me if I were to like uh if I was like getting like good grades and I was like finishing my like Olympiad math and stuff like that like oh there was always like there was always like like a pre there was always like a checklist of things I had to do before like right you said you had to do three hours of Olympian tier math every day in the summer before you could play ball right yeah so some of the eighth grade like most of my days like um most my most my mornings would be like wake up at nine like dude like there's I don't know my my parents had like this Olympiad math textbook they they really liked and then I would just do problems every single day for like three hours uh and then I would eat lunch and then I'll just go to the YMCA and till from like 2 p.m. till like 10 p.m. every day until closing oh so you would when you did hoop you would get to hoop for hours at a time yeah just goes in like yeah in the summer I mean in the summer like most quite didn't really have so when did you like get good at basketball because I would say guarding you you know like what are you almost six feet you're barely six I'm barely six barely six feet but you do obviously have some strength on you that like you know because you trained every day you know you were on the team do you want basketball so you you definitely got some strength and the speed but like what when did you get good at basketball like when do you feel like you were elite like getting to that tier um like better than I feel like I feel like there were like jumps like throughout I feel like because I started basketball pretty late I started in like sixth grade and then like seventh grade um like seventh grade a lot of the kids around me they were just like they were just a lot better than me but then like growing up I always wanted to like be the best in like the friend group and like the community like at the I like the YMCA and stuff right so I was just putting a lot of actual work by myself like in my own time like stuff like that and then I think by like eighth grade I was like I got a lot better and then I kind of learned like like high school hoops came around a lot of like people I played with didn't even like make their high school like team play high school a lot of people just like quit at that point so then like another like jump for me was I guess like when I transferred schools to like St. Francis High School like which is where I graduated from I didn't get much from like my sophomore year because like transfer rules was kind of hard to get into like the system I had to sit out like quite a few games but then like junior year I was um like I also didn't get that much like from that year so like that summer I was like I also worked like at your heart just put in like more hours and stuff because I wanted to like one get recruited which meant like I had to put up like numbers like do well and like honors like accolades and stuff like that so then junior year I think I played I had like a much better season and uh like I think I like I broke our league's three-point record that year so that helped like a little bit and then I would say like in college I like I'd say like sophomore maybe like junior year I would be like I would be training every day like by myself knowing like once I get the opportunity like walk to walk on it's like it's gonna be very rare you know it's like it might never come by again so it's like I have to be like my best shape I have to be like ready so when you're training though are you hiring trainers or how are you training like how do you even get in tune with the play action you know what I mean like high level five like the IQ plays like I think that getting skills I don't think that I think there's a lot of Asian guys out there who are quick got a little cool one-on-one moves and stuff but oftentimes it's like the five-on-five IQ play that they don't get it they don't get enough practice in defensive schemes offensive schemes all these plays thumb yeah I like I had well when I was a manager I did have access to our gym which was like really helpful so I would go in there like late nights usually like by myself or with a friend I would just shoot like work on like like like ball handling like cardio so like that otherwise like whenever I had time I'd go to rec center a lot there was um there's some decent like players at the rec center at Stanford to be honest like a lot of former college hoopers like uh yeah a lot of former like but what about like the film stuff like you know the stuff with the hardcore sets and stuff like that no like for myself I think it was just more at that point it was like an individual level so like a lot of times I would just go to the rec center like play one-on-five with like people kind of just like work on like uh like my game by myself because then I guess like there was no point of me learning all the sets and everything if I wasn't on the team right right so then I was like once I'm on the team then I could like work but are you are you able to apply your like math mind and your CS mind to the play action because that's always been hard for me to is to memorize like basketball schemes and like coverages oh the heat if this falls apart we're going to go into this format it was like always hard for me to get it into my brain a little bit I think like I think like because I also like as a walk on I played like scout team a lot which is like you just like you're on the other you're scout you're like you're pretending to be the other team you're like running their place right so every like practice you'd have like I would have to learn like 10 to 15 like new plays like not of our sets but like of the other team sets right right I'd say like yeah like I guess like uh like math all that stuff like would has like helped me I know like some of the assistant coaches that have like coach scout team might disagree with me but um I would say like for the most part it does like help and it is like so you'd be lighting up your own team in practice from three sometimes maybe like once every like like 10 practices what do you ever get nervous in games man because I think this is a big thing that I talked to you about a lot of other Asian hoopers is that man maybe the skills are there in practice but then at some point you kind of get like flustered in games or you or if there's like two double teams or quarters all management yeah and it's just like your stress and the breathing and like I've seen it even in higher level Asian basketball players I'm not saying it's strictly an Asian thing everybody gets nervous but do you get nervous and how do you not get nervous if I used to like for sure I think it was like really bad in like middle school because I think I'll just play like so much emphasis on it and like care about it so much and I think like yeah when you care too much you start doing that right I don't know you treat like something like at the end of the day I see it's like like dude it's it's like a basketball game you know I'm not like held at gunpoint or anything like I have to make this shot so it's like I don't go in much anyway so then when I do it's like always uh it's always like a luxury you know and like at first I used to be like a little bit nervous right because it's like playing on like a college court like with all these guys it's like it just feels like so like foreign in a sense but then it kind of hit me like after my third or fourth game I was like like dude I play against like like first of all we're beating this team by 20 like and my teammates are like the ones who like scored and it's like I play with my teammates like every day in practice so I'm like like like what is there to like really be worried about you know so I think like just not caring in a sense and like not worrying so much I guess about what happens just like helps a lot because like end of the day like whether I score like don't score like get dunked on or like have like a highlight play like the rest of my day is gonna like seem the same be the same you know I'm just gonna go back to my dorm I'm gonna like finish some work I'm gonna go to bed next day is gonna be like the same so that I don't know that's how I kind of like think but I don't want to like place too much emphasis on like one moment but then just like have it be something that's like ingrained into your day but after you hit the three and did the rights in the veins thing something changed right everybody started cheering your name and everybody or was that already happening but I felt like it got more intense right I think that already happened because like last year my like like the first year I played my friends they were like like they were really excited about me being on the team like them being Asian and everything they made like I think they pulled up to my second game which had even a play and they had like cut out to me it was just like it was just like it was just like funny so like one guy printed like like my student ID or something on like a big cardboard thing I was just like I was like man this is like this is great you know but it's like so when you hit the three on brawny I felt like that was like a whole another level though you know what I mean because brawny is the highest profile player in college right now obviously he's not near the best player in nca but because he's a LeBron son and then you hit a three in his face and it was almost like you know and that was the rice in my veins guy yeah I guess like funny I don't know I guess I got like really lucky that he was the one you know but I wonder what brawny's thinking when it's like everybody's like sending him that meme like yo that asian kid hit you up brawny brawny's like dude what do you like yeah like I wouldn't say he was yeah I mean I wouldn't say he was really guarding me like you read the yeah like I said you read the like you read the caption right it would seem like I was like I like I crossed him up and like at the end of the day though there's still the photo him closing out right in your face I guess for me uh because I think we could talk for hours about basketball like uh I guess what are some advice or specific advice that you have for like asian kids around like your size you know obviously you have some athletic ability but you're not the tallest or the most athletic person yeah there's a lot more people in your situation than jeremy's situation where he was like six four and he was like california player of the year now like for the people who are just trying to like walk on to like a d3d2 even d1 like just trying to like get on the team let alone maybe not like be a star but like you know people who are like solid high school players what are some things like you could tell them I think like for like to walk on like first of all you have to get into school like like very candidly it's like if you're not getting into the school like past admissions then like there's nothing like you can do so like walk on I think another thing is like I don't know I I say it because like I get people asking me like like do you do anything special you have like any special drills like at the end of the day like I just I just I'd say like I worked pretty hard I don't think I did anything special I like I shot a lot of shots and uh like I would spend like my summers trying to like get my form right and everything and um I guess it's just about like prioritizing things I know like for myself in college I I I prioritize like basketball for a lot of things like um I guess like times where I could like make new people like hang out with friends it was kind of just like oh I have to like try to walk on so it's like I had to be like real about like putting my efforts for it and I think like I guess the last thing it's like I don't think anyone wants to hear this and it kind of sucks but it's like just being like okay with like failure for myself like um I like part of me knew like there's like a very big chance that I'm not going to walk on right because just like statistically from that point of view it's like you got to be like very pragmatic like it's like a very like difficult task but then I also knew in the back of my mind it's like if I don't like try my best if I like if I let this statistic stop me right then there's always going to be like a big what if in the back of my mind and if I graduate with that what if right then I can it's going to be like tough living for the rest of my life knowing that there was a chance even though it was like very small so I think just knowing that I gave it my all even if I did not make the team I would have been like content I'm like a lot of something is like out of my control like I gave it my best I did it all I could and like I can live with that like for example I didn't I walked in the team like middle of my senior year and prior to that the coach told me three times that I wouldn't be able to walk on just because it was a it was like very unlikely they don't know like and there's like stuff with like uh I guess like the number of like student athletes that they could have or like like like stuff like that you know it's just like they're like there was there was always a reason but then I finally found like opportunity like more opportunities came up and it's like when opportunities come it's like they're gonna be so rare it's like you kind of just take advantage of them and I guess uh I got like lucky with like the chances I had so it kind of like worked out my favorite I'd say I got very lucky but just know like failure is a very like possible outcome I think right so now that you got the profile you're graduated your d1 career is over right a lot of people are probably thinking yo Roy are you gonna go play pro in Asia are you going to do keep going with the youtube channel where you're you know playing all the influencers and you beat some really good basketball influencers on youtube and in ones basically one on one like probably a lot of people ask you that right because they're just like what is the rice in the veins guy gonna do now yeah um to be honest like I think I'm a career standpoint I'm like growing up I like I would have like I always like I would want to make the NBA like if you asked me and I was in like middle school like what do you want to do I'm like NBA like NBA for sure but I think now that I think about it's like it's a like I don't have like many college highlights and I or like notable gameplay highlights like what if they asked you to go try out for cba right now like for like Shanghai sharks or Beijing ducks or something I might do it like for a youtube video and that but I think like as a career standpoint I just feel like I have more potential like doing something that I think is like interesting within like machine learning like tech like stuff like that building something like really cool but at the same time like my life has always been like school and basketball right so I feel like if I only give it up so if I do give away the basketball piece then it's gonna be losing like a big part of me so I definitely want to like keep basketball like in my life along with like the like the like something more like academic and like educational but yeah I also didn't expect people to watch my youtube video I don't know if I ever mentioned this but like my first video like was kind of a joke my friend like we just wanted to test this camera out so that's why we're trying out all the angles and everything and then yeah like over like I think I left it like for a week and then I came back and I was like out of 100k I think at the end of the day I'm like a pretty like I'm a pretty regular dude like you know I wake up just do my work go play some basketball come home like eat dinner and go to go to bed like nothing I don't think like the lifestyle in which I'm like living is like very very like different than a lot of like other college students which um I don't know it's like might be good or bad for people interested but yeah I'd say like uh yeah I like I don't know however all is like pretty normal I'd say nothing like super special dude there's this picture of you talking to brawny oh yeah yeah so like oh what did brawny say we didn't say anything so that was actually that was actually my bad so because I think the shot clock there was like a difference between like shot clock and game clock of like two seconds so it's like when the shot clock runs out right even though there's two seconds because of the game rules they have to stop the clock inbound and everything so I think they were like they were I think he just wanted to like take the ball so then we didn't have to inbound and everything but then I was like kind of like unaware of like what was going on so I kind of just held on to it also like like frankly I mean I didn't want the turnover either right right so I kind of just like held on to it and I think yeah I didn't understand like what was going on but looking back I probably should have just like like the game clock run and everything but not man make a good picture though yeah yeah it looks it looks like brawny's like oh man like like I don't know it just whatever the circumstances are that created it shit looked tight all right you know what it is funny man held this held the rights in the band photo and brawny and it is true I think things are like kind of coming together in very funny ways where it's not like you're not a star basketball player but you're you're getting these funny moments that are like special and I tell you like yeah maybe I guess your college career is coming to an end but like I don't know just have fun with it man do something with it you know you you're you're only young and super fast and quick and spry once in your life you know for a one-time period of your life so yeah no I know what you mean I think uh yeah I definitely like enjoyed it definitely like a lot of like memorable moments you know like I guess it's like how many times you get to go like up against like brawny you know and like I'm sure like he's like he's definitely already like forgotten the moment but that's something like I'm gonna think about like I'm gonna frame because like when he's gonna end be a one day right when he's like killing the week I'm gonna be like yo like I got a picture with this guy you know so I'm always gonna remember it and given just like just how good of like a player he is like the profile he has and like given that he has like a very like what's it called like a like a lot of potential in his future yeah yeah do you follow a lot with the eight other asian ballers case they told monaga had a crazy year uh yeah I'm rooting for them I wish uh you know I wish Princeton made it like turn him this year I wanted to make an avian league run like Nebraska obviously like uh Zach I mean Zach eating is half chinese yeah he's uh and you is he chinese is that is that he's like I think he's like no he's not no it's half shanganese I think oh is he or is that kanto even man but the height I don't know where you got the height from not yeah I mean he's like I mean dude he's killing he's like he's always like national like player of the year or whatever so it's like you got I don't know we got we got someone representing you know we got a lot we got some we got some people man's avian league Zach eating um man where can they find your stuff at my yo youtube and stuff oh youtube it's just this is bro my instagram is one nine ro y y 19 or y and uh you can add me on linkedin to ryu and 19 dude what app are you gonna invent I don't know we'll see I'm not sure I want to I don't know I don't know if I want to say because I don't know if I want to go or I don't know I don't know if I want to do something in like the mobile space probably yeah something yeah outside of that like I don't want to do iOS or like Android real quick we got to tell this story because it came up off camera Roy you were talking about how you were killing some people in high school but they're and they would get still more recruited than you yeah I guess like I guess like the moral of the story is just like I think for like other Asian hoopers out there this obviously like a lot of like Asian kids who can hoop but might get overlooked just because of like size how they look and stuff like that like for myself I know like one story that gets me like kind of upset is um I remember like my junior summer at U we were playing like playing a pretty good adidas gauntlet team they had four dudes go like D1 I think two high majors and then they had one guy he got offered by like every Ivy League right and then like for me I was just trying to get into like one or like not even as a scout like not even as like a scholarship player right you just wanted to spot on a team spot you know and then uh like like basically like we played we lost by two because I mean they were like a very good team at the end of the day but I had 33 like this guy had like this guy had seven and he was like like uh like I think I played like pretty solid defense like two right but we got the whole thing like on camera like as well as some other games from that tournament and afterwards I sent them to like the coaches and stuff and then like I told them I was like yo like my name's like this like GPA like stats blah blah blah like here's like here's like some game film like also played like one of your like recruits right and it's like I'm not looking for like scholarships or anything I just want like an opportunity and a lot of them just like and I was like oh it might like like please like follow my senior season right right I just killed one of your recruits yeah I like I didn't like phrase like that but it's just like oh I played like someone that you guys have been looking at right and it's just like they didn't like all they didn't even want to give you a look right I think like only one or two like schools responded and it was just like oh we're done recruiting right right I guess do you think it is because like simply just because you're Asian or is it because you look like a more studious academic Asian or is it because of your size or is it everything because obviously we all know Jeremy he was super overlooked even though he was california state player of the year that was like insane super overlooked right but then you know what I mean like you got overlooked too I think uh no he definitely got more like overlooked given like his like amount the amount of accolades he has but I think like for myself a lot of recruiters like I don't know never really took me seriously like at like higher levels of which is like which like kind of sucks you know for like not just me like a lot of kids trying to get recruited because at the end of the day it's like like what do you think about racism in sports against Asians like what can people do to beat it or is it just still going to be this way despite you know Jeremy happening and everybody happening and dude I mean it I mean I think I think it exists like obviously but it's like it's something that's like knowledge like less because at the end it's like NBA like pro leagues it's like a very like performing space career right it's like and like I'd say like historically like most of like the best players are not Asian even though there's like some like players that are really good like Jeremy Lin uh like who Yi Jianlan Zhou Qi you know like Mount Rushmore of Asian Hoopers you know and uh you said Zhou Qi that's pretty funny yeah but I think like uh yeah it exists like for sure but I also don't like I think I don't think it should hinder like up-and-coming Hoopers like the way that they're seen is like oh just because they're Asian is like that they can't hoop you know it's like you should look at their game and it's like oh if they miss like 10 or like 50 turnovers right it's like oh okay yeah then you can't hoop but if they're like killing it and like everything right it shouldn't be like oh it's a fluke because he's Asian it should be like oh exactly good because do you think if you would have got a better shot you could have started in Ivy Leagues I don't I don't know I think like Ivy Leagues are obviously like they're not seen as like high major and everything but they're like like the players are good I'd say a lot of them are do what's it called are like recruited they're like the three four stars like I was on ranked in high school so I don't want to say like I could just walk into like these teams and play if I I don't know maybe I'll play like like very very like limited role in some situation but it's like I mean you would have thought Harvard would have gave you a look though just after they had Jeremy they're like all right we're trying to get Lin Sanity number two I mean dude like I wish like I mean looking back I wish I even I wish I applied to Harvard but like uh yeah I think it's all good bro it's all good you know what it's all good you got rice in the veins picture on brownie who knows what you're gonna keep doing I appreciate it man oh yeah hey Roy you on all right everybody check out his stuff and until next time we out peace