 think of a camp first. I know that all of us were pleased, of course, when the hijackers were apprehended. The hostages were all freed, but then I know how it was worth to learn that one, an American, swing-hofer had been brutally murdered by the hijackers. It is possible, and certainly it is apparent at this time, to depart Egypt and departs unknown. We're doing everything we can to see if they cannot be brought to justice. We think that no nation should give shelter to these people, should make them available to whichever country has the proper jurisdiction for prosecution. If that is us because the victim was American, fine. Italy because it was on an Italian ship or I'm not a lawyer of the legal niceties and that sort of thing. But we're going to do everything we can to see that they are brought to justice. Are you mad at Egypt for letting them go, Mr. President? Apparently, from what we know so far, it's been rather difficult getting all the information. Apparently the Egyptians did not know that a hostage had been murdered. There had been a crime committed at that time before they were turned over to the PLO, which evidently would be arrangement to get them off the ship and free the hostage. Mr. President, every time we care if Arapat has them now, how are we going to bring them to justice if Arapat and the PLO has them? Well, I think certainly a demand should be made. Mr. Arapat has said that the PLO had nothing to do with this. I would think that we should make a demand to him then to turn them over to whichever country should have proper jurisdiction. Arapat says that didn't you say the same thing about the TWA hijackers that yet nothing has happened there? Yes, the problem was we all know the situation in Lebanon. The government seems to have very little authority with all the conflicting groups that are there patling each other. But we did make a demand and we have to find out after again those original two hijackers. Mr. President, Arapat says that he'll punish them. Is that good enough for you? Well, I would think that if he believes that their organization has enough of a set up like a nation that they can bring them to justice and carry that out, all right. But just so they are brought to justice. So you'd let the PLO punish them then? Yes, if they're determined to do that. Do you really believe that the PLO had nothing to do with this? I have no way of knowing when we're the other continent. The factions that are existing there within the Palestinians, I have no way to know. Sir, if you would let the PLO punish them, wouldn't that be an effect recognizing the PLO as a government and nation which we don't do? I don't think that that would necessarily follow. Is the U.S. willing to take action itself, Mr. President? Would the U.S. take military action to bring these people to justice? I'm now talking about whether we would invade a friendly nation if they were in the hands of a friendly nation. They could buy out this past and would end it when they did. Mr. President, did you consider? Well, you know our position has always been and we tried to persuade all the other countries that had an interest in this and were involved. But you do not negotiate or bargain with terrorists. But they did, didn't they? Yes, they did. What do you think of that? They made a judgment. What is bringing them to justice? Is that just giving them a six-month tail turn or something? No, this is trying them for murder, a very brutal murder. And the threat of murder to others. In our country that would mean capital funding. What does this do to the peace process, sir? Does this end the peace process for the time being? Let me just say what they said. So, the quick call to this weekend is your homecoming. And in my presence with this report, I'm supposed to be part of this new program, things like that. If you are willing to come out here in the rain and say hello, then I can say that I hope your weekends will be most enjoyable. And I think that you just get out of the rain. Don't get cold. Please, I'd like to officially welcome you to this exciting event. I'd also like to personally thank all of our employees and our community groups who have worked very hard to make this visit a success. I'd now like to introduce... First from the 16th District of Illinois, down right from the way, representative Len Martin. Representative George O'Brien, who is the President of the United States, will pay less tax. We support tax reform because it is... I'd like to recognize also the founder who just heard here from Chairman O'Brien for working families and prosperity for our country, and we call it America's fair share tax rate. The main ingredients are tax rate cuts for individuals and businesses, loophole closings, and a near doubling of the personal exemption for you and every defendant in your family. Lower latter tax rates will give Americans more confidence in the future. It'll mean that if you work overtime, get a raise or a promotion, or if your company does well and raises your salary. Long and hard about an appropriate gift to celebrate your visit. And we decided, unanimously, that our gift should help you achieve... Up to now, we've only had regular size and family size, but you'll notice this is the new federal size. Yes, listen, I'm just going to take a second. I've got 30 people waiting in there to have lunch, but apparently there's a little confusion and maybe I'm responsible. I don't know, with regard to the PLO and their part in this hostage setup, I did not mean to imply that I favored them giving a trial or attempting to do justice to the hijackers. But I really believe that the PLO, if the hijackers are in their custody, should turn them over to a sovereign state that would have jurisdiction and could prosecute them as the murderers that they are. And that is reality where I think should be done and what we would make every effort to see would be done. Well, sir, if they won't turn them over, how can we make them turn them over? That is a problem we'll have to look at and find out. And if I had an answer to that specifically right now, I wouldn't make it public. Are you satisfied that the PLO does have control of the hijackers in Tunisia now? I would have to tell you that there had been so many things spoken and left unanswered in this, and then I'm going to go into lunch after I say this, that I'm hesitant about saying anything positive. It was our understanding that they were put in their custody and where they are now or whether they have them. I don't really know and I'm just trying to keep in touch with our sources of information or ambassador there to try and stay abreast of what the situation is. Are you satisfied that they're out of Egypt, though, sir? No, I'm not even satisfied with that. All I know is they're off the boat and there's some place over there and our people are safe. There's no trial by the PLO. What? No trial by the PLO. No, I don't think that they are not a sovereign nation and I don't think that they would have a machinery that... So you would not be satisfied, as you said before, you would not be satisfied if they punished you. You said that you would be satisfied, but now you're saying you would not be satisfied. No, and I shouldn't have made a statement of that kind. I think that I was thinking kind of as man as I am, a vengeance instead of justice. But any sovereign nation? What? Well, I think that there's a possibility of our own because it was our citizen, but Italy because it was an Italian ship, I think because the crime began in Egypt, there could be a... I think that you could find a reason for more than one sovereign nation to have jurisdiction in this case. Don't you believe that Barak says that they're out of Egypt? The President of Barak says they're out of Egypt. Don't you believe him? The case is whether he has all the same information or the information he should have, too. Earlier in his work to get the hostages freed, he did not know that the crime had been committed, either. Mr. President, you say that the guests of the robot knew in advance of the raid. Is that your understanding, sir? The Israelis say Yasser Arafat knew in advance of the hijackings. I wouldn't have any way of knowing whether that's true. They say you were planning a military operation to free the hostages if they had not been freed. Sam, do you know that that's something I get about that? Have a nice lunch. Is it spaghetti? Barak, nice to see you. Good to see you, sir. Good to see you, man. Thank you, sir. Thank you, sir. I'm not going to be able to draw my new guy a little piece of cake. He got a little piece of cake, sir. He was the one who moved it. Yeah, I'll move it, sir. He's the one who made the cake. I'm supposed to be right there. He's the one who made the cake. All right, sir. He's the one who made the cake. He's supposed to be right there. He's the one who made the cake. Why not? Lebanon, Libya, Iran, sorry, is the answer why. Every other country has, and we should have lost about 600,000 here 10 years ago, by locally or by some spots. It's just not a good... Now it's both of them. Technical areas, it's good. President's correct it now. It does take time. It's pretty sorry right now. The Singaporeans... Oh, you know. It's just the city, the state, the nation, the city. And the right.