 Welcome back. As I told you earlier that we're going to have a makeup interview concerning the beauty industry and the beauty and cosmetic industry has become Kenya's new hub of investment that is pulling a big money to establish new lines of business and to snap up successful enterprises through the multi-million Kenya shillings. This clearly is a huge market where men and women have already splashed on themselves to look good and smell nice. And today as I told you earlier that I'm joined by a beautician he's known as Daniel Mora. Welcome. Thank you. He's a beautician and he has told me also he's a good man. And so to make that clear we can start our interview by making there's really one need a makeup. There's one really need a makeup to be done. Okay. It depends but I think it's a necessity. It is a necessity. Why is it really a necessity when it comes to both men and women? Because of late men have kind of embraced this for you being a man in this industry actually. Okay. Make up ladies are quite different. So for the ladies you need the ponds and stuffs and lipstick but for men you just need to keep your lips grossed. Okay. That's nice. And you being a male what did you see in this makeup industry that actually made you venture in it? Well first of all it's just like something that I loved. Actually a brief bit of history you told me that you were an actor and then later you ventured into the beauty industry. Why? Who are the main reason? Okay. First of all I read this tool of mine when I was in high school I read an article. Certain guys from the West listen my is you're an African because they are ugly. Oh God. We are beautiful. Of course you are. And you know the darkskins on Achukiwa. The kind of ladies thing. So it was in me that I came to Diorna and I come with that something because maybe something I think of as Diorna so I was so much interested. So I looked at my mom and my sister so they don't look bad but maybe he saw something so that's God. That's God. He can be part of the industry as a dog. He can do acting. So in the acting you do makeup of course. And I want a good source of income so I ventured. Wow. That's nice. And how is the makeup industry in Kenya? We are narrowing this up. Our view the beauty industry is very very big. We have the hair beauty. We have the makeup. We have the manicure, pedicure. We can talk about the makeup industry. About your appearance, the face, actuality. And how is the makeup industry in Kenya? It's quite good. It's quite promising. It's growing day by day. It's quite good. It's quite good. There is a really big growth in it. And there are different local brands that have emerged in the beauty industry. What's the biggest market of makeup? What I mean is the age group. How does it go about it? The age group in Kenya is mostly young adults. Like those mature women. An age of between 16 and early 50s. And the business to business because you get probably the weddings. Someone will come to you and say that I need makeup for my wedding. I need makeup for the media personalities. Which business is it growing mostly? Most of the weddings are events. So most of the events grow more than the day they make up. Because most of the clients who go to Japan have makeup every day. Most of the clients know how to do it by themselves. For the wedding, it needs special attention. And there are many people that you get in once. Okay, wow, that's nice. And how long have you been in this industry? Well, I've been long enough. I've been this my fourth year now. Wow, that's a big time. And how do you settle on how to raise your work? Because you've seen the wedding events at large. And also the media personalities. And also people who come just for photo shooting and all that. How do you really price your work? Well, I have a standard price. I don't overcharge and I do not undercharge. So I have a prezist for everything. So clients come, I discuss my work. I'm sure what I have, I have to offer. Then I can start from there. Well, and lately men have really embraced the media industry here. Is there potential for men in this industry? Of course. Super big. Actually, I did this, I want to appreciate when I did this. Sure. I did appreciate. Okay, that's nice. And we have different shades of makeup. In fact, they are fake makeup and original makeup. How can one distinguish the two? It's quite hard to distinguish. Once I would use the makeup. But still you need to arrange the prices. You need to arrange the makeup and buy the kit. And also the quality. The cheaper the makeup is, the lower the quality. And the more expensive the kit is, the higher the price. And the higher the quality it is. Yeah, we have samples of your makeup, whatever you've done on people. That's pretty much a kind of work. That's a nice work. And are there many clients who come to you and probably are there complaints of clients? Well, in the time when I grow, I keep on... In regarding the shades of makeup and all that. Okay, I grow and I keep on doing my job. And what I do, because it comes out of a passion. So I manage to minimize complaints. And I make sure that I manage to arrange the clients. But most of the time, the clients have a difference between what they're talking about and what they're over. But what I see is what they're talking about is really different. They are different. Okay, that's nice. And globally, you know, we are talking about coronavirus day in and day out. Has it really affected the importation of probably legit products of makeup? Yeah, sure. Yeah, it may affect sauna, sauna, sauna. Because it was so hard to import products. Because we don't have locally manufactured products. Okay. Can one consider makeup as a profitable and viable career to do? Of course. We are here. I've given that to me for four years. And I'm still going. I've still, there are so many other guys in the memento and there are guys coming up. And then people are selling those makeup kits and stuff. So it's a good thing to venture here. How really profitable is it? It's quite sustainable. Like paying rent, can you? Of course. Okay. Okay. And you know, there are many things that one is required to have so that you can be a good, someone good in whatever you do. And are there requirements that one needs to become a good artist? Yeah, sure. You need to have knowledge of a field when you are here. And still you have to have knowledge of products. So you have to experience them. It's advisable to not grow under many other jobs. So they keep on educating you about the products, they're changing products and they keep on evolving. It's not coming, it's not coming. And others disappear. So you have to keep yourself on toes. Okay. And there are many challenges that comes up in one kind of applying makeup each and every day. Is it really advisable to apply makeup day in, day out? Is it really advisable? Yeah, sure. It all depends on when you want to fit. But what we don't recommend is to put on makeup. And the method is to put on makeup. So if you want to put on makeup, make sure you keep your skin hydrated and moisturized. That's all. And can it have long-time effects? Not really. They don't have long-time effects. But they don't have to make it quality. Yeah. And people tend to pursue makeup in that when you apply makeup, you kind of produce, reflect the kind of, the confidence you have. Is it, does makeup really, most probably in ladies? Yeah. In ladies. Sure it does. Actually, to be honest, ladies may not be able to do makeup visually because of the way you look. And actually when you are presenting yourself before something, you have your appearance. It's all about makeup, it's all about enhancing the appearance. So when you come, say you're poor, you can't do makeup visually and you can't go serious. Actually, when you do makeup, you have confidence. And when you have confidence, it's a good cake. And are there different shades of makeup, probably if you're attending a wedding or probably media personnel or an event, are there specific kind of makeup that one should apply? Yeah, sure. There are ranges of makeup, there are day makeup, there are, like, the way you do your makeup, like because of the lights, and there are other things, still their makeup, the weddings and functions, they are different. Okay. There are many things that people tend to do to embrace the makeup industry. But there are people who tend to even go to an extent of plastic surgeries. Sure. In that embracing probably the tattoos on the eyebrows. On the eyebrows. Yeah. How can you explain about that? Well, I believe that beauty is all about confidence. And you feel like in a certain position, that boosts your confidence, then go for it. You can find that maybe your skin will be fresh. So you can have some kind of a way to enhance it. So just go for it because if it boosts your confidence, then go for it. Okay. And you're in this business sector of the makeup industry. Are there strategies that you make probably when you come to your income, whatever you get, is it, do you kind of strategize on what to save or you just kind of use it all of it? No, not really. Of course, okay, I'm a young man, so I need to take care of my children and stay to save for tomorrow. No one knows about tomorrow. And I need to keep myself on top, so I need to save of course. You can just a little bit explain to viewers out there that if one really, you kind of get 300 and you do a person makeup and he or she tends to give you probably a thousand shilling. And for you, you've used your makeup and so you tend to go and use all the wonders and shilling that you've gotten from this client to buy, to restore your makeup. Is it really advisable? Okay, in any business, we have to stock. We have to pay the money, we have to grind. We have to take advantage of your work. So we have to, like, we have to pay the money depending on the decisions that we make. For example, I have a thousand. And for my profiteers, that's my profiteers. That's what I spend on my work. And that's what I save for my work. Because I don't have a lot of money. So that's why I don't have to buy or upgrade. Okay, as we are coming close to this interview you can just briefly tell us the schools or the colleges that people should tend to study so that they can get the good makeup qualities. Well, in choosing, should I, you know, make up? Mm-hmm. If I were to choose, should I have a good history? Mm-hmm. But if I were to give up, I wouldn't be able to write. Because if you don't know how to make up, there's so many guys who are teaching how to do makeup and who are taking care of it. Mm-hmm. But if you don't know how to make up, there's so many steps you have to take. There's so many steps you have to take. So that's why, like, cars, they're done to make up, to make up their beauty. Okay. To make up their beauty. Okay. To make up their beauty. Okay. To make up their makeup. Mm-hmm. Actually, what happens with us, they cannot find it to be special, is because we have to expose our clients, our students outside to have a chance to interact with our clients. Mm-hmm. So they want to boost their esteem and still they want to grow. Yeah. In the industry. Yeah. So, and then, we do a lot of jobs. Mm-hmm. Like, to do some gigs, to do a lot of gigs, and they do make up so. It's all about, for example, who said they could go to the next level. Mm-hmm. Sure. Wow. That's great. Thank you, Daniel Mora, for coming. We've heard of your that you're supposed to have passion to do whatever you want to do and definitely, you will venture into it very, very well. And... But today's the society make up or everywhere it's all about make up, go to the media personalities, their eventing, planning, all that. And, as we come closer to this, I would leave you with a quote that said, a penny saved is a penny gained. gained. So whatever you get out of your income, please do save it. My name is Jo and I go have a blessed night. God bless.