 We'll call it the Air Force Commission at the 4 o'clock at the end. To the end, if we're not, can we just please acknowledge themselves? Bernal Gleith, Wenewski? Yeah, if you're all right. Chip Mason? Great. Thank you. Move on to item two, which is the agenda. Do we have a motion to approve the agenda as presented? So I'm going to speak by right. Is there a second? Second. Second by Chip. Any discussion or amendments to the agenda? Here and now, those in favor of adopting the agenda as presented please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Those, the abstentions, we have an agenda. Next up is public forum. Nobody in this room is there anyone here? No. No. So no attendance for our public forum. So we will shut that down, move on to item four, which is the consent agenda. Do we have a motion to approve the contents of the consent agenda? So moved by Gray. Is there a second? Second by Chip. Discussion on the consent agenda. Thank you. Of course. I think there's definitely a couple of things to talk about with passengers and air service. And one of the things I'll start with is you're not going to hear them say this often, but I will when it is true. Happy to report that I was incorrect something. And that's my prediction for the end of the fiscal year last year. We were talking about a 630,000 past year end of fiscal year, which is June 30th. We did end up, which we've talked about in the past, but we did end up with close to 650,000. So I was incorrect, but we were higher than our analysis. I do want to just touch on a couple of highlights for our current calendar year projection. Right now we're projecting 655,000 passengers. Again, this is calendar year 2023 ends. That 655,000 projections is if the remaining three months are identical to last year. So realistically, we're looking between 650,000 to 675,000 passengers, which is 3%. That's projecting 3% increases within the remaining three months, which doesn't close out October. We're still collecting that information. Average of 3%. The average for this calendar year each month is close to 10% increases. The first three months are fiscal year, first three months ended at 193,000. Last year, the same time period was 185, so we're looking at a 3.5% increase, fiscal year to date over fiscal year. 2019, those first three months were around 204,000. This is 2019, fiscal year 2019. So now we're at around 94% of that, which is something we're going to run 10,000 passengers. But we're, again, very, very, very close. Want to talk a little bit about chat blue and what that looks like in our projections? Of course, you saw it in the news, and you went through some communication that starting in January, is that the right way to say it? Starting in January, there will be ending service here in Burlington, unfortunately. Of course, we have a very aggressive Air Service Development program. We've been working with all of our existing carriers and carriers for years and years with great relationships, not only with our incumbent carriers, but also with new carriers. I'm very, very excited to be working specifically with a couple of carriers that are highly interested in Burlington, and I'm hopeful to be bringing some news to you very soon. Again, with chat blue numbers, they are typically less than 10% of our market share. One of the things that we analyzed right away with this announcement from chat blue is how many passengers are ending their destination in the New York City area. Right now, it's only 24% that's ending quarter two of 2023. So 24% of the passengers on chat blue right now end at New York City. The remaining 76% of those passengers are going to be swear. So the changes in that particular flight and potentially with new carriers, it's very, very strong for us. Not only are there existing carriers going through any of our routes to our destinations. For example, any of our Florida destinations against specific with chat blue passengers quarter two 40% of those passengers fly to Florida. Meaning they're flying from BTP through JFK over to Florida, but they multiple targets. Right now, they're one, two, three, four, five, seven targets through JFK that are dying. I guess my point being, while it is a tremendous loss and we have a great relationship and the 23 year commitment with chat blue, we're not seeing media and we don't see any projected negative numbers based on all the great news that I just reported with projections for the rest of the calendar and fiscal years. Again, very aggressive air service development team. So you're bringing chat broadly into the mix with this. And that's not going away anytime soon, whether jet blue analysis or not, we're always continuing our conversations to increase our numbers. That was all I have for you on that. I'm thinking that up. Yeah, that's your direction. Yes, there's any questions or comments? Tim, I'm just, so Nick, I'm sorry. Do you want to talk about jet blue or follow up questions in the director's report or do you want to feel them now? I think that makes sense. I'm not able to either. So if you want, go ahead, Kevin. I guess, Nick, I'm hoping, can you talk a little bit more about what you understand to be the basis for the decision? I'm a little confused. I mean, I've read your press release. I've seen jet blue statement. I've read the congressional delegation letter. So I'm sort of a little confused as to sort of, well, I can read the English, but there's got to be more to it than just, you know, there's an air traffic controller problem we're being forced to diminish or we're giving up slots in New York. That doesn't really tell me why Burlington got picked instead of, I mean, I don't know how many incoming slots jet blue has. But I think that would help. And also, I'm not sure how enthusiastic, while I appreciate our delegation jumping in, depending on the basis for the decision, I'm not sure how much optimism to put toward that having any effect other than answering the questions that were posed. No, we're really good points for really good questions, while the jet blue statement. And again, we do have a close relationship, even to this day with the corporate headquarters of jet blue, although I think the announcement could have been done a little bit differently. The reasons behind it are, from our perspective here, well beyond the shortages of air traffic control, while that certainly is a reason, a portion of the reason. And that's a very real thing. We talk a lot about pilot shortages, but specifically in the New York area, there are serious concerns with air traffic control, which is why the Federal Aviation Administration allowed slot waivers to occur. My question back to jet blue was, while New York is asking for decreases in flights going to that market, Burlington is still profitable. We're still seeing 80 plus percentage of low factors out of Burlington to JFK, but why not change that flight up a little bit if you can't go through New York, maybe add a Florida destination or something to that effect. So I think there's definitely additional reasons behind the shift specifically to us. Another good point is we're not the only one jet blue for us is and was the only JFK, rather was the only destination with jet blue. That was one route that was canceled with Burlington. There were 13 other routes that were canceled around the country at the same time period. And there's other complexities to this situation. Jet Blue has their conversations and active lawsuits right now with the Department of Justice for their bid to merge with Spirit Airlines. Just yesterday, their corporate counsel was quoted saying that Spirit is highly reliant on this merger to occur. Otherwise, expansions and or the future of Spirit Airlines, which I'm reading between the Alliance also includes jet blue could be at pretty significant risk for the airline itself. So between that, the competitive nature, the air traffic controller shortages, there are serious shortages with pilots with jet blue, but also serious concerns with the air bus orders that are coming down that are coming to jet blue airlines, meaning they're not meeting their equipment needs for the airline. So all of these combined, I think, is really a perfect storm of what's happening. And then you throw the numbers, the data, the profitability, the numbers that we don't see into the mix. And unfortunately, it looked like obviously that we're on that list because I do want to say that we went through something very similar around three or four years ago, and our congressional delegation really supported jet blue staying in Burlington. Whereas, for example, Portland, Maine, they were not so lucky. Jet blue switched to a seasonal only service. So same day, jet blue actually ended service in Portland, Maine for the season. So they're not going to be there for the next six months. So again, lots of elements to this pretty complex equation. For us specifically, I think it's important for our customers, for our passengers, that there still is ways to get to Florida. There's still ways to get to all these other destinations that were being connected through JFK, including international travel. It's the 24% of passengers that are ending their flight in New York City. Those are the folks that we're listening to today and working with today to today because right now there's limited options out of Oregon and JFK. And if you're a specific business traveler, that's where our focus needs to be to make sure we continue to support the New York market. And that's why we immediately worked with our congressional delegation. That letter, of course, was supported by us and certainly supported by us. And we, too, would like to understand some of those answers. Thank you for that explanation, Nick. And I appreciate the statement at the end about focusing on the 24%. Because the first message I think I thought I heard was a little light different. And I appreciate you can walk and chew gum at the same time. You're focused on potentially the 40% that continues through New York to Florida, but not forgetting the 24%. I mean, I can only speak personally and I won't for others. But most times that I've traveled in and out of Burlington over the last 20 years have been starting with JetBlue, whether that's ending in the New York market or going somewhere else. So I mean, I know personally I have greatly appreciated that flight and the opportunity it afforded to get either to New York City or, I mean, in fact, this weekend, I mean, to make my wife is going down to see my daughter, last minute, she didn't want to drive, she's jumping on a JetBlue fight. And to not have that availability and then to come back on a Sunday night will, at least personally, and I'm sure many are in the same boat, we will feel it. The train's not really there, driving is, it's a commitment. So I appreciate you indicating that you are also exploring that 24% that may end its flight in New York City. That's right. And I don't see these suspensions, if you will, whether we're talking about Delta or JetBlue in the New York area as a long-term suspension. I truly think there's major issues that our federal delegation and the FAA need to figure out because everything that we're talking about, our numbers are good. Those cuts to LaGuardia, those cuts to JFK, and all those complexities with JetBlue have nothing to do with Burlington. We have the market, we have the demand, not just for the New York City area, but also beyond that. So it's very rare that we would say something like that when a flight is cut, that this truly has nothing to do with the Burlington market. And that's why I don't foresee these cuts as long-term. I agree with your initial statement there of the probability of the reversal of the decision of JetBlue is pretty low. However, we're gonna continue to work with that company to make sure that we're never lost in their minds when they talk about new domestic grounds. I just, as a last, I mean, as a PR and you're well aware of this, I appreciate the efforts you've done to put out that, this is not our fault because, certainly the public is sort of putting this in the category of, there goes Burlington, what a shit storm. This is just another thing that we've brought upon ourselves. And I'm doing my best personally to deliver a different message, but appreciate you and your team continuing to do so. Great, we absolutely will. Nick, did I just something did you say about Delta and the New York market? Did they mount something as well? They did. So Delta, both out of LaGuardia and JNK have reduced their flights as well. And that's, their work with us in their statements are the same exact reasons, although not specific to JetBlue, but they're saying the reasons with FAA air traffic controller shortages. I was an air traffic controller in the New York City area. And I saw it 15 years ago when I was working there and certainly have colleagues and connection that continue to let me know that it is real. That it is shortages, that it is massive mandatory requirements to work many, many days without a day off. So I hear it, but at the same time, the frustrating pieces, nothing to do with Burlington, everything to do with the federal issue. But yes, Delta did also announce some reductions in the market. You said they're shopping LaGuardia and they're reducing JetBank with Delta. No, just press reduction on both of those markets. But another important piece specific to Delta, well to any airline, in the switchover from October to November, every single year is a reduction in flights. So some of the things that were in the media are not exactly apples to apples when we're comparing ourselves to reducing our flights. Not all of that, of course, is the seasonality of things, but I specifically to LaGuardia and JFK, Delta also is taking advantage of the FAA waivers. This is another point piece, which I don't think I said earlier. The FAA air traffic controller shortages, the FAA allows airlines to reduce their routes with no penalties and no loss of slots. So it makes it easy for an airline to say, well, I'm going to reduce my flights to satisfy the FAA's request to reduce air traffic operations in that area without losing any of my slots. And that's essentially what's happening. And that's why both of those companies, at least in Burlington now decided to reduce temporarily. That slot waiver goes until October of 2024, right now. So I'm going to ask, is it possible that the flights that you continued to have larger aircraft? And so could we come for the lots of passengers, fewer flights for people on the flights? Yeah, the possibility is there. The next couple of months, don't show that on the schedule. Right, the employment's rolled over. The employment's rolled over, the schedules are already in place. We didn't even see this. So we can see six to 12 months into the future. However, airlines aren't required to necessarily board that to the DOT right away. So we don't see that until they immediately made a switch on that particular day, which was most likely a deadline to submit to the Department of Transportation for their slots. Are we requesting what you just asked? Both across the board, whether it's New York or not, absolutely, specifically with LaGuardia and JFK, Crown and Delta. Just a process question. Do airlines have a contract with us in terms of, and if so, what are the terms of that contracts in terms of how long they notice that board they pull out? 30 days. We do, yes, we do have a contract with our signatory airlines in and some country who has signed a non-signatory contract. But all of the airlines are supposed to give us 30 days notice before they completely close the station, which of course, JetBlue has changes of flights, changes of routes, those types of things. There's really no notice required that this happens generally daily here. We all have a schedule and every single day, there's possibilities that things will change. Right, those are three plus months in the future. And then of course, there's irregular operations that happen all the time that might affect a schedule or schedule for next week, for example. But changes in flights, schedules, those types of things are pretty routine. And just as a follow-up on that, what's the normal operating procedure if an airline is considering pulling out? Is it common practice for them to come and talk to the director of aviation and express, give them a little bit more notice or express some concerns? Obviously, if it's outside of the realm of what Berlin can do, then there's not much of a discussion that needs to be made. But I'm just sort of curious, if someone is unhappy, do they come and talk to you or do they just grab the 30 day notice in their life? In the over 10 years that I've been here with new airlines coming and going and even our incumbent airlines have gone, have never experienced an airline not advising any one member of the airport team. You know, Google Jam Blues credit, although in hindsight, they did apologize for how this announcement was made, inclusive to some of the importance that we're not giving that as. So it really was that day that we all found out together. That's just one of the quick questions, although I don't put a lot of high expectations in terms of our regional delegation doing anything under normal circumstances. I do, I did hear that the recent newly appointed director of the FAA, Michael Whittaker, is a Vermont from Starmwich, Vermont. And just sort of wondering if the Vermonters can pull together here and pull some strengths. Yeah, and our congressional delegation, of course, kind of supported his appointment into that position. I haven't invited him out here for a visit, I don't know if that's exactly it. But I also invite you to see. Just welcome through what I've done, Lou. January subjects. Yeah, but you never know. And he is a Vermonter as well. And obviously he's new to the position and there's some history behind slot waivers. Air traffic control challenges into that nature. To your point about the technology with JetBlue, most likely I'm gonna be flying down with some of the team here to at least talk a little bit more specifics, talk about the future of JetBlue, talk about their deliveries of aircraft all the way to way of traffic control issues and at least pause our relationship. Let me say we'll get the hatching. Okay, thank you. Robin, I saw you in your hand up. Do you still have a comment or a question? Yeah, well, so I'm just wondering, I know we talked a little bit about the spirit merger, but there are rumors that the air traffic control and coming down from the FAA, I mean, they said everybody had to reduce by 20% out of New York and didn't say where they had to go, as you stated earlier. And some people are saying, this could just be some pushing on the merger because of what some see as just an unnecessary delay in the merger and to getting it through. And so if they push on places like us that kind of sort of have a legitimate gripe for being pulled out of completely, then that pushes on the other side. Has anybody else heard any of those rumors? Yeah. There's some rumors. We're getting an echo, I think, from you, Robin. Oh, there you are. That's not just me. Oh, you are? Okay. Yeah. There's a couple of things. So one is specific to the air traffic control challenges in the New York City area that airlines are putting some pressure on the FAA to find some basket solutions to that and get additional trainees through the door. And to your point, this made me one of those pressure points. And the other side of that is, of course, the merger with Spirit Airlines. I don't want to really talk about hypotheticals, but JetBlue also ended their relationship with American Airlines, which had an alliance, it's the Northeast Alliance that ended so that it would help the merger process for JetBlue. Again, another complexity to this whole situation with JetBlue, but I guess my answer would be, I'm not 100% sure on some of those rovers, but I think they're not completely out of line. Yeah. Well, I've also heard that the, so the yes, we're down on air traffic control, but one of the other things that's just come up in the last couple of years is that the just sheer amount of traffic has actually increased, right? Coming out of COVID, we went back gangbusters, especially out of places like JFK. It's not like the slots changed, but it's really busy. So it's, when you just look at the, how to compare it, they heard traffic controllers to the traffic, it's not like we just didn't train enough. Right, it's busy. I think it's a small sample of that. I mean, you can see it here right here, right here at Burlington too, where we've grown and we're busier and required to increase in A for the air traffic controllers here, but also they're well staffed here at Burlington. And I think that's because of our geographic area and our basic place to live perspective, but yeah, many, many complexities. Yeah, thank you. I don't know if there's any further discussion. I'll send it to the conversation, but I'll order in favor of the document, please stick to the paper saying aye. Aye. I take those. Abstentions, no action. I know this is not some new move, right into various construction. Okay, so just to be clear, we are finished in the work of the lighting and alarms of the season. We finished the self portion of new lighting and the new alarm system is in. It will start on the door as we may mobilize in April. Marjorie will like that. So also a contractor finished removing the corrosion in the columns near the charging area, repainting down there. There's still a cause of that corrosion past the peace area, but that's the first one of those projects will be going to do a big project and it's not going to be on the by the children. But there we go. I've provided a bunch of pictures of some of the night prep payment now on taxiway alpha and two tax money, Charlie, it's essentially complete. It was suspected by us, hanging up there in this past week, came out very well, especially with the number of payment we had to make happen to make this private that because of the company terminal. There we go. Although we had a lot of aspects with the FAA of the past, the boarding bridge projects, that's complete. The South apron, I provided a bunch of pictures. Mass get to Beijing is complete. Brain exactly is now complete. Now they're starting to putting the sub base in. Right now I'm also doing some work there in the data. Manufacturing facility payment will not go down this year. It's just getting too late. It only hit the spring. We do have payment down there to the manufacturing plant for access for data to get in and out through the airfield that they need to develop. Not sure how long it will be this wise, but I had to, I mean, on the mission update, was the glimel system update or upgrade and all of a sudden we were told by the FAA it wasn't going to be eligible. So my question that I said, hey, we're not going to give up. Well, we didn't give up and it's back hours a little bit. So we are starting to consider a study of how we're going to improve that system. We're not going to hear what we want to do any towards recycling. And, but that, we had first discussions with the FAA and that will be findable as back hours. So you had to show me how you're going to do that. Quick question on that. Yeah, I know that excuse me, when Nick sent out the information earlier about the Air Force, I don't know if I categorized this correctly, but the Air Force's new document on environmental issues and such. Is this something that fits into that category? I mean, if they're saying that environmental concerns are going to be a priority, then it would seem as if the military would be, would help usher in some sort of changes within the FAA or wherever needs to approve those things. Maybe I'm not connecting those to you because I realize there are two different organizations, but there's probably a fair amount of overlap and you know, the main emphasis, I guess I'm trying to establish is although we got this document, I don't know if we mentioned this in telephone communications earlier, I just think that we ought to do everything to hold them accountable to this document that they put forth. And I don't know if this is an example of it, maybe it's two different ships that are sailing, but anytime that I see an opportunity for that, I'm going to speak in favor of holding them accountable. Which makes sense. Specific to the glycol slash stormwater systems that Larry manages and the capital programs that thankfully are now eligible for some of those improvements, it really is separate from the air guard only because this is for our terminal ramp and specific operations that we have to manage. However, there are some overlaps with stormwater and other runoff scenarios, environmental scenarios that the air guard 100% is responsible for and would be included in their capital programs to improve and work with Larry and his team to coordinate and correlate back to our systems, although generally they are both physically and contractually separate. And 100% agree. In fact, hopefully next month, possibly in January, the guard will come and present to the Air Force commission both their next steps to making sure that the lease agreement, the future, the coordination with environmental to noise programs is their accountability back to us. It might maybe be built in a few years ago, but improved their stormwater system significantly. A lot of things that we didn't talk about during those lease negotiations and public outreach was we're talking a lot about the $50 million that is and was on the line with our lease extension over the next five years. But what we didn't talk about is the hundreds of millions of dollars that they did put in improvements over there for the airfield and buildings including the stormwater system that Larry is talking about. Thank you. Your internal movement project anybody had a chance to go out there and look much more moving out there and that project was the acceptance of the last long of the ace at length. I think that's still like a plywood there. And that will be classed. So there's weight on the delivery of that. The internal replacement project we're moving that forward. We did receive an estimated national cost based on our limerity where we're doing that working those numbers right now. So that's moving along with the anticipating to have pricing by February 24. Cargo apron design under design SRE building it's under design tech center progresses and has been progressing severely. I know we're next working on the lease side of things but they have I believe they are pretty much based on our calls each week that they're programming down with regard to the inside the building to the tech center that has to be reviewed by Nick and the FAA outside the building the cycling stuff for parking school buses and all that stuff is at a point where it will work. So we're a good you know each of them narrowly. So it's now moving into final design and final design. So that's good news the runway 1533 design is progressing very well based on our CFT we both can also the addition of the runway and the shoulders the runway will only be done this time and we will practice the shoulders which will meet the requirements to be done in a couple of years where we can actually do the rehabilitation of 119. The airfield pavement management plan is almost complete we're pulling all the numbers together on the addition of all of our pavements. Nick wanted me to follow up real quickly what I anticipate or we anticipate we'll be moving forward for the end of this fiscal year in regard to recommendations to the Airport Commission of the Board of Finance. We anticipate that we will be asking for being able to accept a grant from the FAA for the runway 1533 instructor and residential resident project representatives or the engineering overview of that project for 12 million dollars the North Concourse replacement the next project that I just spoke about. We anticipate coming to you to be able to receive a grant in a human contract to include instructor to complete that project the grant will be at about 34 million overall I hope be close to 40 million based on our 10% we'll also be moving forward to get an equal project we'll touch on this in the sound installation project or residential sound installation project phase four will be designed outreach and construction of 50 more homes will be bringing that forward again we also are working on a separate grant for two additional exit lanes consistent with the new ones we just installed at both ends of the airport and we are going to be quick forward with a request to accept the grant for some additional things we did during the terms of the grant which are now we should be able to get funding for and the SRE construction and the RRE downroading so that's all I got Any questions or any questions? I just hear it from the automated exit lanes that look kind of random if you might say smoothly and I was going to hand that over to Dave but it looks like he dropped off really good from a security perspective and a monitoring perspective probably better than we definitely anticipated we've had no main issues like severe weekends issues the contractor the manufacturer has been really excellent to work with especially when we need them for troubleshooting cleaning has been very sensitive so we have to make sure that everything is cleaned very well but overall I would say I'd give it an A if I had to score it the reason that we want to move forward with two additional ones is for those very reasons right everything we do in aviation has redundant systems in it so we really want to see that so that we can take one out of service for routine maintenance and still have a backup we still do have personnel monitoring those exit doors and eventually those will go away too we really wanted to make sure that people and our operations as well as security folks are confident in these systems before which I think we're there thank you very much and we'll move on to United States financial update well so this month you have all of the financial major of this year so we are three months reporting on the revenue expenses the revenues are continuing to be very strong they're $8.3 million we did I included on here that we'll be drawing down revenue to reimburse us for some valid expenses some operating payroll expenses for the first three months and we're going to do that from the stimulus rent so that revenue of $913,000 is included in here but even without that additional revenue we are still above where we were last year for our revenue so this I'm happy to see that the revenues continue to rebound completely and then as far as we have the revenue recovery which the only thing that is still a little bit not 100% is the PSE revenues follow pretty closely with the plan and if we were to include 100% of what we were in 2019 I expect those PSE numbers to also be added as well but all of the other revenues I have the revenues I have the revenues that should be in excess of the 2019 our expenses are $3.85 million this is higher than last year we had we've been working on even though they demobilize I should say for the winter the fire arm and the garage lighting project is a pretty significant project that we're after taking for the first of the garage and making it brighter and I don't know since I've come with it so those expenses are kidding we're seeing that from all the work that they've been doing in this report in October because they just barely demobilized for the winter months and we also other areas where we're seeing higher expenses this year last year are salaries over time with the play benefit so the detail is included in the area and a lot of that with the salaries is just we're having more staff than we did a year ago so we're going to this is we have been under staff for our decisions and so now we are making the reorganization which we did add some decisions but also we are more fully staffed than we have in the past and see that continue yes in the cost percentage of salaries yes good point and in the last of the last two years there were COLA adjustments that are very much union days but then the mayor stands out to the nine union members and those are pretty significant so we have a total of 12% over the last to say 12 months then we have 7.2% went here and then this past July was 4.8% so you're going to see that those expenses are going to go up just from the COLA's and then as of our cash update we're still in the very good cash for the six community pensions this is September and those are the highlights for this month but I'm happy to entertain any individual questions that you have. We've got a lot of questions. Mr. President, any questions for Marie? Quick note on the act of AFP projects to you added a note. Oh yes now what it's the AIP sheet color coded sort of the AIP members and the reciprocal members and with the note being that these are AIP projects that we have completed and there's a process that we go through in order to wrap up and submit and be wading to the reimbursement from the entity so we have quite a lot of projects here but a lot of them actually we haven't been able to finish and deploy that so that is our spending going to be spending quite a good time working on that. So when Marie talks about a $6 million cash amount and number there's 7.8 million that still needs to be reimbursed to us and 3.2 of that is coming relatively soon so our cash position is almost double what we actually have reimbursed by NFA so really strong we'll do nothing then again so that's all we have nothing going on again it's always available to us it's just a good thing we'll start pretty soon we'll get to what that said we'll have to pay back to somebody it's not like this it's not like this it's not like this it's not like this it's not like this it's not like this is what we've been doing so some of those projects they can be pretty sizable to yes so that'll be that's one that we're very excited to get that process with NFA again thank you Marie Marie I'm just wondering your thoughts on the Japanese situation obviously in comparison to where we were a year ago things are fine but is that something that you're suddenly concerned about and and that could impact jeopardize the financials in six months from now next year I think as soon as you heard the news well obviously we always we strive we want this airport to serve all customers and the more flights that we have the more opportunities we have as a bit I'm not overly concerned today because number one I do think that other airlines will come in and have there's opportunity for existing airlines and I almost think there's opportunities Nick is doing a great job talking to and for years talking with other airlines about trying to bring additional service as well as building those relationships we have existing airlines so I think it's a good opportunity for other airlines to pick up and provide bigger planes, provide more routes so today I'm not I don't like it but for a whole number of reasons just for selection of customers as well but fortunately for us I guess if you're looking it is they are of the legacy airlines they are the smallest so United and Delta and America have far greater share of the market here so I would be more concerned if it was one of the other airlines I asked and you certainly hope that we could work with them and certainly hope that we're able to as an airport provide options for people because the demand is there and I think that's very, very evident so I think we're going to come out okay from a diversity of airlines to you know there's other Northeast airports that went through some extremely difficult times because the majority of their flights were one airline specifically Southwest Airlines and we can't allow that to happen at Burlington so even with our legacy carriers that usually hold between 20% and 30% of our market not 70% or 80% but when Murray talks about specifically those three legacies United, American and Delta they do hold around the 80% of our market here which is very consistent with what they hold nationally we don't have later if you model in the United States there it is not a competition out there so working with folks like John Blue or other airlines which are referred to in the industry as low cost carriers or ultra low cost carriers is important for our diversification of airlines but also we're wanting more people the opportunity to purchase a lower fare thank you thank you sorry sorry I was actually kind of thinking the same thing but then I was like it's so futuristic that it's really going to be interesting to see if the merger happens if the merger doesn't happen then if other people see I don't know seven flights times 100 700 people that have now been displaced and somebody jumps on that so it's really not something we can really look at at the moment I guess the only question remaining is of the airline do we get mostly um just like landing fees and operations or does any of the gas from heritage flow to us and deicing I guess all of the yeah from the financial perspective directly from the airlines we're getting landing fees and a square footage rental rate from JetBlue and every airline and then you have your indirect revenues like our concessions parking garage portion of the fuel and sales through heritage from the airlines to the airlines and we do get like you said we reduce in winter jet who's actually always moving around their flights and then sometimes they'll jump on that Orlando flight or throw that out I think that the biggest concern especially in my household is what if they pull out completely it's a lot harder to just adjust right because now all of a sudden we don't have a jetway anymore we don't have gates and we don't have anything to nobody's holding our spot if they decide to return immediately right so the concern being like they have gone up and down with how many flights they have when those flights are we've gone to Orlando we've canceled Orlando but by saying that they're pulling out completely it seems a lot more difficult to just make adjustments down the road and go oh never mind we're good and still have a gate and a jetway to everything to come back to I would mostly agree with that but that's also why we're building the terminal for the future to make sure that we can accommodate quick shifts like this and provide some of the technology that we really need at the gates so if jet blue or another airline comes or America needs to use an alternate gate we have that flexibility through virtual networks and connections back to their corporate systems that's critical but essentially yes you're correct it always is more difficult starting fresh whether they're coming back or carriers coming to us okay thank you but the good thing is there's still 65,000 people on some airlines I would think I'll take those 65,000 people not only that Tim that's a great point not only that I think it's important even though jet blue is generally around a 10% mark which is where your 65,000 number comes into play we're not losing all 65,000 passengers they're going to be dispersed they're going to be looking for alternate ways to fly hopefully fly out of BTB to that final destination whether it's Florida or Roanoke I mean I have a full list of every single spot that all jet blue employees have gone to for the last 23 years so we know exactly where our past years are going and we can mark that opportunity with airlines thank you Marie move on to IDF 7 which is the community thanks for being here we had six additional comments from last month and I'll have any other updates for you today Richard any questions for Hannah we're about to oh sorry is that a normal amount is that a normal amount or is that less than the normal amount is that surprisingly less what would we say is a normal amount I don't know break it out by a month in the future if that's helpful I think probably anywhere from like 20 to 50 would be an average so that's quite a bit less and that that's for the last month basically October or September from the last time I've reported so I don't have it in front of me but I did think you needed a total comments listed that's from the beginning so that's June 2021 beginning of June when we had these online through the present to the end of last Friday just to clarify the nine that we managed to last about from the last time I've reported yes I just find that surprising in light of the recent public meetings and such I would have guessed that people would have just jacked that number up just prior to that the public meeting about release expansion and so that's but it's a very positive number so I'm glad to hear that that is the case for the people trying to expand the number for other personal interests go ahead Brent Hi, thanks I want to be cautious and make sure the commission is cautious to read too much into the numbers I think rather it shows there's potential that it just shows fatigue that folks don't feel like they're being heard or like any action will be taken I think it feels to many folks that they're just yelling into the wind and the jet noises surrounding out there complaints so just because it's down I wouldn't be cautious that that is a positive indicator we don't have enough data to suggest what it correlates to or does not correlate to you're absolutely right Brent that's a good point absolutely right there's the next time it's late in the program what is that thing as everybody knows there's a for 15 homes as of last Thursday there were a few homes that finished with accepting to some storm doors that are moving on the way causing feedback from all the homeowners that already steal the difference with regards to noise in our homes here is there will be more interest it's been a good process for taking cards I think myself and Kurt went to a noise conference in Dallas, Texas last week and learned more about what we're doing here with respected noise and sound insulating programs and what other airports are doing from to New Zealand everywhere very informative moving forward with that I know Nick may have some pictures to show later the homes that are done we are outreaching to the next 50 homes and also it's part of this and it's part of my construction report I put in a post project where she spent a for next year's grant that happened last month also so we're projecting out that we'll be doing the same 50-hour home construction however there are other dance opportunities that are looking good for applications for other companies next time I touch on that might change that a little bit and we might be able to advance this program if we're successful let me say thank you for that noise exposure map and our TAG meeting that went very well and that's all I got for our noise exposure map we're still on schedule to hold a few more technical advisory committee meetings as well at some public engagement meetings both locally in South Burlington and in Newskie to explain the map process but also to prepare for our publication of our new map which right now we're on track for around May June timeframe before a new noise exposure time and the funding that Larry is talking about is also the funding that was committed to as part of the memorandum of understanding with my National Guard is to help with additional Department of Defense funding to access close to $19 million in difficult funding to support the found installation with strong program and we're going to set up a group of slides very much to meet the end and from what we can see our program has beyond anybody else that would be seeking responsibility go ahead Brent thanks I was happy to have a chance to talk about the recent technical advisory committee meeting in October I know that there aren't any other meetings posted on the BTB Sound website for that TAC committee it'd be great to get an email once that meeting information is updated we don't have a date just yet but as we do we'll have many weeks to notice both to the committee members and then we'll be posting both the materials zoom links etc for folks to attend physically or digitally I'm sorry one other quick thing we will be updating the mapping to show the outreach that we're going through right now it's always neat to have something to show great I also connected with our city manager afterwards she mentioned that she wasn't able to stay for the whole meeting I was wondering if there is any other kind of delegate process that makes sense to the commission if the city manager isn't able to attend who she might want to delegate or who you might want to name as an alternate if she's not able to attend for the full meeting or for the whole meeting yeah it really is up to the representative of the the seat that it fills this isn't a self committee of the airport commission this is just an advisory committee as part of our process which is not required but recommended by the federal administration so if for example the new ski representative can come very easily interchangeable with any other representative of the new ski great I just make sure before I revisit the conversation with the city manager that the commission doesn't have any problem with that doesn't have to be a thing I guess I mean there's really just no relation so yeah the way we did it before was I was the chair the director of aviation was the chair of the committee but that absolutely makes sense I'd rather ask than assume so thank you that's all I have right now if there's anything else for later we'll find some evidence for you just going to share the screen and the folks online see the screen yep yep so just a quick update for you first of all welcome to the Patrick Leighy Burlington International Airport we had an awesome event how many weeks ago it was about like Jeff is going to talk a little bit more about it but obviously very excited to share with you during the commission meeting our brand new logo brand new name and thank you both in spirit and physically for supporting this event and I think we had a blast yeah it was a great event it was my team's first event that I worked on and really there was not one person on the airport team from our maintenance team the operations that didn't happen in some capacity so it really came together it was a good group effort we were disappointed being friend of the airport Bruce Wayne did not make an appearance but back then yeah I think the center was very happy so we are re-utilizing the backdrop we have three of those logo displays as well so we're really working now with straights to complete the rebranding source and trying to get everything but it's going to be a process we're going to kind of tag team this between Jeff and I with profit next layer I am very very excited about kind of the next steps like Larry said we're going through some of the financial details both from a local share a non-elitical share as well as what we are pushing for a as much of an FAA grant as possible up to our maximum appropriation which is the 34 million dollars of federally funded we are coming back with you over the next couple of months a couple of times to talk about both the financial piece the design piece and of course the contractual approvals that we need to move this forward but really exciting we're getting both TSA approvals on many of the items Dave Karman which I am not sure if he's on anymore or not but he's been doing work with his team to make sure our initial concepts are approved initially by the TSA so lots of great things happening with the tip Dave I don't know if you want to add anything more to that yeah we've been working with TSA which had a meeting actually with TSA regarding that so to make sure the you know the access points into the new area or to their satisfaction you know things like that to make sure that TSA is happy with the way we're going about it one of the great wins that Dave was able to secure successfully was our rooftop event space initially we thought we were going to need some pretty big barriers around there but TSA is approved initially we still have a lot of work to do we've been approved our concept no barriers so with that view up on the top floor that is going to look very spectacular without a screening Jeff it's going to talk about the next few here yeah we're very happy we were the number 8 spot USA Today Best Small Airport we started at 20 we don't want to get involved we had a lot of people voting daily on multiple tablets incognito multiple browsers to get us across so it was kind of fun to see the unveiling of the next office so we're using that a lot of press releases etc on November 9th Marie, Nick and I were at DC for the day we are sponsoring not just attending the Taste of Vermont Senator Leahy helped this event at DC for many years he worked with the Lake Shepherd Chamber of Audiences to Retirement and it was kind of up in the air who was going to take it on and Senator Sanders is a small business for responsibility and so they were doing that so we were excited about that event and then on the 15th of November I'll be presenting to the Hamilton Destination BTB event along with several other presenters most of the topics will be recent airport updates where we're going this cool data stuff that we're looking on as well so we're pretty excited about that and then next on November yeah what is that 12 days 11 days headed over to London again to speak at the International Airport Summit for the Federal Airport Authority of China Authority of Nigeria Copenhagen Airport is moderating the session that I'm in which is about the growth of the increased population traveling through airports at some of the constraints that airports have from a large all the way down to Sao Paulo which is very in line with what our experience is making sure we build for the future both from a technology standpoint a sustainability standpoint so I'm very very excited about Marie touched base a little bit on this with our reorganization through the financial report we are starting to interview starting next week for two new manager positions our manager of facility excuse me, our properties and our manager of customer experience both of those we're going to go through very competitive applications so that really over the next month and hopefully make some offers and the final piece here is just a really huge thank you to not just the folks in this room but also and Dave but also the teams that support that because there is construction season we got a lot done big projects that Larry talks about with our capital program all the way to the smaller ones like painting our airplanes that come into the airport all the way to putting our brand new banners out on the front of the airport you'll notice that all of our destinations that we offer are now displayed colorfully as you drive through our entrance this will be a seasonal rotation of banners so we have a couple things coming down the pipelines but you'll see this certainly for the next many, many months which is just really beautiful this was designed and provided by RV Severance so really, really excited that that will also come into the over top of our messaging area over the next part there but all of this kind of been done without an awesome team ambassadors maintenance operations they all have a critical role to play to making sure that this all gets done so thank you to all of our employees which is why we hosted a pretty amazing all airport wide employee barbecue Jeff and I were on the grills and our team was helping serve all of our amazing partners from airlines to rental cars to air guard to air to JV aviation I think our account was we 100% of our campers over 125 miles we swallied these for days we had to replace our land but it was a lot of fun you can see it's represented in just these pictures right here and just a couple things to put on your radar as well is tentatively November 30th we're working with MamaBot they're putting in their brand new first production of other new model on display that will be in the tip we're still working on details and timing of all that but it's a beautiful huge display there's two parts we already have two of down the road separate breastfeeding and some kids fund some areas so if you have multiple kids they'll place the play well breastfeeding and so forth and then our two other ones are being rebranded and re-wrapped as well but the new unit is being installed on Monday at 9 o'clock and so I have for you I'll leave you with our awesome I love it anything for good luck yeah I had the chance to attend the event it really was pretty wonderful pretty amazing chatting with folks afterwards just thought that they were really surprised at the amount of energy you brought to your speech Nick they really appreciate it wouldn't be as surprised but it was really well executed everything from soup to nuts what really seemed to go really well at least from the attendee side of things and honestly you saved the day by preventing one of the displays from being blown over by the wind you know so all around winner we had the fans when they got to the stairs where the hands where the security they were in the staff holding them yeah good point anything else for Nick alright so we're going to talk about an item and see any in advance are there any topics that I can discuss so seeing that sorry about that sorry guys I'm a little slow on the draw with the hand thing yeah and forgive me for not getting in the first seven minutes I teach from two to four fifty on Wednesday so I'm always having to pass off to the co-teacher and run out and try to find a way to get on so next semester it's going to be better I don't have any afternoon classes so but I just I did want to express a concern that we weren't able to get on a quorum and discuss the lease for the guard before it went to city council I realized that the timing was super weird because it came in in the middle because they moved the meeting so we didn't it wasn't going to fall on one of our regular scheduled meetings but I was very disappointed that we couldn't get a quorum to at least have a conversation that it seems to be potentially the most important conversation we're going to have for the next 25 years and is obviously a deep concern to our you know our community that we represent by being here so you know I strongly suggest that that in the future I mean actually this is never going to come up again but when we have things that are you know this important I just feel like we should be able to get to the table in some form and have a conversation that we can bring back to the community members that we serve thank you go ahead thank you all thank you Robin for bringing that up I intended to do so and forgot all sort of echo I mean as a former city councilor I can't stress it's important I think to hear from the airport commission which really does have primary even though ultimately the call of the council I do think it was a missed opportunity for this body to weigh in on something that will have a 25 year impact I also and I did forgive me Nick I have a relationship with the mayor based on my service I do think it was a little bit of miscommunication and I chided their office for sort of getting it to us at the last minute of course the call for a special meeting and he not surprising wasn't aware of that so it is what it is hopefully that doesn't happen again but I do regret that this body was not able to weigh in through you know getting at least a quorum of us at a table to have the discussion so it is what it is but I hope we don't face the situation in the future does anyone else want to weigh in on that topic well I agree with what Alex said were made and I just want to bring Nick if you can talk more about the process of how the entire situation arose I know that you made a huge effort to write out some information send that out and it is a follow up phone calls and I appreciate all that effort that it just it just seemed like it was a really rushed process and I am not sure why it was that way I am just thinking that if something does have an impact for that long in the future it seems that people would have known about it in the future or at least in this situation to ask and we could have had an opportunity to chime in on our regular meeting I guess what I am saying is I just find it shocking that that wasn't on the agenda in our October meeting that was one of the reasons why we moved the meeting schedule to the first of the month so that we would have an opportunity to discuss these things before they went to the commission and I am not pointing fingers because I have the most up to do respect for you and I know that you would never try to do something that was not transparent and I don't and at the second we don't have a lot of power to block decisions either but it is bothersome when something is that important and we don't have an opportunity to hear about it until it seems as if it is a done deal of course if I have the information in the final negotiated document I will always bring that document to this commission for your recommendation for approvals it was a very high priority of the administration to bring this forward at that October 23 meeting and that is why I made a very conservative effort prior to media input to get this in front of you to a textual format as well as any verbal communication or questions as well as working with this board to offer some time on for a special meeting we were to do with if there was that form again this was negotiated and discussed over many, many, many, many weeks if not months as many contracts are and there were some decisions made that not just decisions but information on the critical nature of this due to the loss of capital that was presented to the administration that was one of the reasons that this was very, very important it was also at the request of it was a high priority of the administration to put this in that timeframe and that's really the reason Are you saying that you were not aware, I mean whatever you say was that the process was ongoing and it was considered to bring that you were going to bring it to the October meeting but it was not brought to the October meeting so the October city council meeting now I'm talking about our October commission correct it was not we were not prepared to do that because this was not finalized on the negotiation was it foreseeable that it was going to be finalized before the commission meeting based upon the timeline and as I said at the city council meeting we were prepared to bring this into our 2024 timeframe that has changed both the information received from the area as well as us created the priority of the administration to bring this to city council meeting just to weigh in in next defense the council agenda is set by the council president with input from the administration we respond that's why I'm saying I think it was a miss by the administration to not afford sufficient time for this body to weigh in on it but at the end of the day we did have an opportunity we could have convened a special meeting and we were not able to get a quorum so while we can point fingers about why it was late we did still have sufficient time to convene a meeting of the airport commission and weigh in and we elected not or there was not sufficient people that were interested in doing that and I'm not saying who knows I mean time commitment is too short whatever it is what it is but we did have an opportunity to weigh in and we elected not to by not having a quorum that wanted him afford with a special meeting I guess as chair I'll conclude that I agree with what Chip and Robin had to say I do think it is a miss I do regret that we could not get enough people who were interested to actually have a meeting to have a discussion on it I guess I'm partially okay given how I saw it in the city council meeting where there was two hours of public forum with proponents and opponents the debate amongst the city councillors was tremendous Chip as she noted they have the authority to renew the lease we do not so while I do think it was a miss I do think that the public process at the city council meeting itself was well served is there anything else on commissioner items if we move on to item 10 which is follow-up items there's currently nothing on the list is there anything from this meeting that needs to be followed up on next month every time I know that he's German so back right 8 seconds all those in favor see if I've said that any opposed be our adjourned thank you everyone