 Hi from New York, we're coming to you live from the Big Apple. I'm Ed. And I'm Bruce. And today our special guests of honor are Yehanathan and Lyric live from Israel, I mean direct from Israel. Direct. And live. Not really direct. It's like, you know, it's a long flight. Indirectly. Indirectly. Originally from Israel. And they're on their North American tour, they're in New York the second time on this tour, right? No, this is the first time. The first time in New York? Yeah. Okay, okay. And they're doing the Sunday for Gay Pride in New York City. That's right. That's exciting. Therapy. Therapy lounge. Yeah. That's a cool place. Ten o'clock, so be there. Ten o'clock Sunday. Be there. Be there. Be spare. The Best Gay Artist of 2010. That's right. That's a great honor. Thank you. Thank you. Top Gay Recording Artists of the Summer. Thank you. At least of the Summer. Well, you know, more who's? The Summer's to come. First question. Who are the bottom gay recording artists of the Summer? You got me very next. Larry, maybe you can answer that. We speak no English. No English. We come to see America. We come to America. We don't know bottoms, no tops. America has been very, very good to me, right? Yeah. Okay, so. You're receiving it with open arms. Yeah. We were laughing all the way to here saying that every time we meet someone, we're going to tell them we don't speak English and we'll be like, we come to America. We look for up the butt. Up the butt. Something like that. Yeah, so. I think that's it. We kind of joked about that. I think it's in the village. I'm not sure what it is, but I think it's in the village. Up the butt. Yeah. That's actually a good name. Or like last night, like when someone, I was in a bar and that's not very sweet to say, but like when somebody approached me and I wasn't, you know, it's a great way to come out of a conversation. You're like, no English. Sorry. No. No English. No English. No English. Yeah, that's good. I should try that. That's a good name for a bar, actually. You could probably get away with it. I don't know. Yeah. No English. No English. I can say. Let me think about it. No. Oh, I give it away. It means no. I can't say that. This is a family show. So this is the first time in New York. Yeah. Your first time in New York? Yeah. And U.S. Yeah. Oh my gosh, the first time in U.S. Really excited. Yeah, really excited, yeah. What do you think? It's just like Israel, but more water. I can get it. You don't get it? You don't understand? Yeah, it's huge. And a lot of people, you know, we used to Tel Aviv, used to Tel Aviv to Jerusalem. It's nice. It's small. It's like a family here. It's huge. Well, Manhattan is like a family. Yeah. We see people on the street. Ten million people. That's a family. You know what's really weird about New York City? Yeah. Once you live here is that the neighborhoods are like little towns. I swear. We walk down, because you don't have cars. We don't have cars. Right. Normal people don't have cars in Manhattan. Yeah. The parking is... You don't park. You don't have cars. I have a car and a driver. Actually, I have 150,000 of them. They're all yellow. And you just go out and say, hey, driver. I've got personal drivers that are out there. That's right. They all know me. Cabby, you know. Right. But anyway, the weird thing is, we walk everywhere. So when you walk down the street, you see the same people. You see the guy from the grocery store. You see the guy from the convenience store. You see them. Because we all walk the same few blocks. It's really like a little town. But you do have like tons of tourists coming in. Yeah. So there is like this constant, you know... We avoid them. Yeah. We avoid them as much as possible. You avoid them. Yeah. We go down the second street and we have to walk through Times Square to get home sometimes. Right. That's not fun. No, it is fun. I mean, I was walking down Times Square and I was like, oh, that's Japanese. That's, you know, that's French. It's fun for tourists. Yeah. But imagine if you lived, you know, you had to walk through Disneyland to get home. You know. He said to me, he said I can't shit it. The end of a long night, you know, and you're like really, really tired and you're carrying groceries. Right. You know, you don't want to walk through Disneyland to get home. Yeah. Taking pictures, you know. Excuse me, excuse me, excuse me. No, we were like after two hours walking around, you know, Times Square. Okay, I'm kind of dizzy. Imagine what you did that every day to go home. Yeah. And after a long night of drinking and clubbing. I know. What did you do in Oregon? Because you started your tour. Right. Our tour started in Portland, Oregon. And they welcomed us with open arms. It was really sweet. You know, fans came all the way to Portland to see our first show. From New York. They came all the way to Portland. From all over. I think it was Europe, one of them. Wow. Yeah. Very dedicated fans. I like Portland. It's all about the cast. Yeah, I like Portland. And yeah, and it was a great way to start the tour because it's not New York. It's not too overwhelming. Yeah. But it's still plenty enough to feel, you know. Especially for lyrics. Was that your first city? Sure. Where did you, did you fly into New York? Forming, we fly to New York. And then to Portland. And then to Oregon. Yeah. So you barely just saw the airport and went on. Yeah. And that's another thing. He was like, all the way, you got, is this the U.S.? Because we're driving like, in like, you know, in Jersey. Sorry, Jersey. And we're like, you know. And he's like, this is the U.S. Like that's, that's the big who hops. All of the U.S. looks like Jersey. Yeah. This is where everybody wants to live. It's the Garden State. We love Jersey. He's like, Tel Aviv is much better. And then he saw it. Yeah. Times Square in Manhattan. And then he was like, okay, I'm getting it now. That's what they say. The world tourists, you know, for those of you, you know, Americans, I guess. The tourists of the world come to only, what, three, four places. They see New York City. They see Disneyland. And they see L.A. And they say, oh, that's the U.S. What is there to see in L.A.? I'm sorry. Yeah, right, right. I lived there for two years. I loved living there. But I don't understand why would it somewhere in L.A.? Oh, yeah. I don't get why tourists go there. I mean, it's not, I mean, except Universal maybe. But what is there, I mean, you know. Hollywood, all of them. It's an industry time. They want to see that sign on the hill. Yeah. They want to see the stars. The stars on the wall. Maybe the filling guy. I don't know. Maybe the filling. I used to say that you're, you know what it is because they've seen it in the movies. Yeah. Movies are more universal worldwide than even television. You know, like, like I was asking these guys earlier if they knew who, like, Anderson Cooper is and CNN and all that. And they don't know. Rachel Maddow. Because television is very national. It's very local. Yeah. Movies in China. We know Oprah. Everybody knows Oprah. Oprah who? No. There's only one Oprah. Only one Oprah. But no, like, movies in China, they know the movie stars. They don't know any television. I know, I know. That's why Hollywood is a track. But the Israelis know the U.S. culture, I think. Yeah, to extend. But not, we don't know. Television. No, no. But movies. And American, you know American culture because the movies. Yeah, yeah. We don't know journalists and then, you know, anchors of, you know, TV. We know Oprah. Schwarzenegger. That's good. Yeah. Sir Jessica Parker and the movies. Now here. And how to say up the butt because that sometimes comes in handy. Is that a website? I think I've been there. No, there used to be a website called Up the Bomb. Up the Bomb, yeah. But they changed the name of it, so anyway. But that's a great website. You can't have a website with the word butt in it. Is that what? No. The regulations are rules. No, it was Up the Bomb. No, because it was British. It was a British website and they call it, they call it, but they call it Bomb. Up the Bomb. Isn't it Bomb is the one that's on the street corner? That's a different Bomb. Yeah, we don't call them, we call them homeless now. That's a polite way to say it. They actually, they could have a very nice home, but they're just being a Bomb, I don't know. Whatever. Bomb homeless. Yeah. You know, they used to call them Tramps and that has a whole new meaning. The way, way, way back historic. I'm not old enough to really know that. Lady and the Tramp. Yeah, right. Exactly. We know American culture. And they don't mean slut. That's a different word. Right, right. But what are we talking about? So what are you doing while you're here in New York? Are you going to the parade? Yeah, of course. You have any special plans? Of course. We have friends that are taking us around and showing us, oh, here, that's G-bar, that's there, and we're like, okay, just show us. Your head spinning. Yeah, I'm here like that. You know. Just get me a cocktail. Yeah, seriously. I need a drink. I need a drink. But we don't, I have to say, we don't party hard. You know, obviously we're here on, you know, 10 o'clock in because I'm kind of over that period in my life. You know, I've been there. To be honest, I went to a bar last night. I was like, okay, got it, got it, got it. And they're done that. Ready to go. You know, after a while, Israel boys, American boys, they all look the same. They're all the boys. You guys are all the same. They're all boys. Yeah, so. And yeah, I know we're kind of over that period in our lives, too. You have the same equipment. But when you're on big, well, really, sometimes. I don't know about that, but sometimes. Yeah, variety is a good thing. You know, a duck is a duck is a duck. You say that, right? Yeah. We say dick. But that's okay. I want to say dick is a dick. A dick is a dick is a dick. But the thing is, if you're on vacation, you have to go out and have a drink. Yeah, we do that. Yeah. But my friends are like, I don't know if I can say that. You know, they're like, oh, there's an after party. So let's go, you know, do this, this, and this. And you go, let's go really crazy. And it's not about, you know, I have work. I have three days here. It's not that I can't do that. I'm just over it. You know, I'm over it. Yeah, sure, sure, sure. Just over it. And if you go crazy. When we travel, we like to go do different things that we normally never do. Like what? Like what? Like having a drink. When we go to like to the saunas and things that we never do. Oh. Because that's something in Europe that people do, you know. To be honest, I'm kind of freaked out even to, they're kind of intimidating. We went to a place. I like to dance. I love to dance. I love the house music. I love the energy. Yeah. I love it. I just love it. I love to dance. I love that person. That's a nice way to introduce people. We love to dance too. There's not that many, you know. It's, I don't know. I mean, maybe it's me but I don't think there's that many dance clubs in the area. For the size of this city. Yeah. There's only a few of dance clubs. I love those bars. I love those big people talking. Yeah. We're not a talk. We don't like to talk. Don't talk to us. Don't talk. At a bar. Dance. Yeah. Because we're going to a bar, we want to, you know, fill the groove and people are like. Right. Yeah. So what sign are you? Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. So I wanted to ask you, when you're in Israel, Tel Aviv, can you walk down the street holding hands, like, are you kidding? OK, let me get one thing straight. OK, let's make one thing straight. Tel Aviv is one of the gayest, proudest, happiest place in the world for a gay man. It's right up there with New York City. It's right up there with West Hollywood. It is crazy gay, OK? I mean, to the point there is, oh, here's Street Eye. Oops, I got him. That's kind of, OK, that's the way it is. But it is a bubble. Outside of Tel Aviv, you would probably not want to flaunt it too much. The big city. Yeah. You can't feel it. But guys, Tel Aviv has a great beach. I wanted to say bitch. They have bitches, they have both of these. And I just, you know, club scene there, it's crazy. I mean, it starts at 2 o'clock at night, OK? It comes all the way till 8, 9, 10 in the morning. It goes up, then there are after parties. After parties. It sounds like London. They go on for, like, they start on Thursday and they finish on Tuesday. Oh my god. It's a ritual. Yeah, that's crazy. Where the good DJs, good music. Yeah. Yeah. Really good. Awesome. And the most beautiful boys, I mean, I've been around. I mean, New York has its share. But for such a small place like Israel that only has, like, 6, 7 million people, you know, compared, I mean, you walk down the street and you're like. High percentage of the boy. Damn, damn, because, you know, people come from Israel from all over Europe and Morocco and East Morocco. And I'm from, you know, our ancestors come from different, you know, places. Right. There is, like, New York. It's like, has all kinds of colors, you know. It's not just like you go to Sweden. Sorry, Swedish people. But if you go to Sweden, it's like you're in either, it's vanilla time, you know. New York, that's what gives it that ability to come out like that in the game world is all these cultures and then it has to explode into something. Yeah. You have variety. You want vanilla one day. You got vanilla. You want chocolate. You got chocolate. Yeah. New York is like a super store. It's like, well, America, everything's big in America, you know, sort of like they say about Texas. Because, you know, it's like we have, you know, every other country, they have markets, you know, and all that. But we have supermarkets, megamarkets. Yeah. Supermarkets. Everything is big in America. Yeah. So that's the thing about America, especially in New York, is the melting pot is that, yeah, you can get anything. You don't have to go to Sweden. You can just find a Swedish guy in New York. I find it's kind of, you know, sometimes it's too much. I got to tell you. It's like, OK, we got it, we got it, we got it, we got the branches, we got it. It's like, everything has to be, you know, and it's like, it's like, you see a guy that has like a great, great, you know, car, you know. There's something going on there that he's feeling insecure about, you know what I'm saying? So that's what I feel about Americans. That's so true. Relax. You are the center of the world. There's no need to shut it out. You can all relax, you know what I'm saying? Well, you know, I think I'm sure that's the impression that we give to the rest of the world. But I don't think it's because Americans think that they're better than everybody else. I think it's because our media is totally focused on America. You watch the evening news. It's US, American. I mean, they say largest in the world. And then some of them, they're corrected. No, it's the largest in the US. They're like, same thing. They forget that there is any place outside of the United States, because the media is America, America, America, America. We don't even have any international news. It does seem that Israel is on your news constantly. I watch CNN. I'm like, Israel, Israel. Yeah, but that's always one topic, you know? They never talk about Israel. They talk about. It's always politics. More in politics. Boring. Yeah. Boring. We're not going to talk about politics now. But it's just, you know, they don't talk about the. I love is like, we used to watch PBS World Focus and I like BBC International. And CNN has an international channel. But Americans, I think most Americans can't even get this channel. We can't get the CNN international channel. Thank God I didn't say that. It's an American network. And it's called CNN International. And most Americans don't have it on their TV. We only get the regulars. If we have cable, we get the regular CNN. And it's all America, America, America. So we're just, it's not like we're obsessed about America. It's like we're blinded. We were like, we only are fed information about it. Well, I'll tell you what, people outside of, like in Israel, what they think of Americans. Maybe you out there, folks will find that interesting. We feel that you are kind of, and I'm not saying that's true. I'm just saying that's what we perceive of you. Is that you, like, you guys are obsessed with celebrities. You guys are obsessed with, you know, I mean, the tabloid stuff. And like, you care more what does Jennifer Aniston is doing than, you know, whether what's going on in Afghanistan, for instance. That seems to be on your, and that kind of makes you look to other people a bit shallow because that's what you're focused on, you know, Calvin Klein and all kinds of, you know, just, you know, just wearing good clothes and going to the gym and especially, you know, they have a free time. They have money, you know. Yeah, that's what we're saying. You guys have no worries, really, you know. You're not going to be bummed on what, you know, you're not going to be bummed on what's going on. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, so it's different. It's true. It's like Switzerland, I mean. Too much time on her hands. That's what I wanted to ask. I lived, let me say this real quick. On that topic, I lived in Taipei, Taiwan for a couple of years. Okay. And I, we used to, all my friends were, most of them were expatriates. So we'd have this big round table. We'd go to dinner at DJI Fridays or whatever. And they're like, Michelle's from Paris and, you know, Steven is from whatever New Zealand and so on. Every single person is from a different country. And I am, and they started talking about Americans one time. And they, they really remember that I'm there. And they're like, oh, I'm sorry. I said, no, no, no, tell me, tell me what you think. I wonder. And that's exactly it. Right. They're like, they think basically Americans have too much time on their hands, they're all in therapy, they're, they don't know what's important, they have way too much money in time and all that. And I'm sure there's truth, there is some truth to that. For sure. But you guys have problems in house. I mean, yeah, with the economy and, and, and, and, you know, you guys have stuff, the health and insurance and all that kind of stuff. And it affects the world. I think that it's a human thing because even despite of how you perceive us, and I think that I didn't say I perceive you. I didn't say I lived here. I know how you guys are. I love you. I love Americans. Right. That's what I'm saying. That's the thing that people still love Americans despite of that. Because you have this kind of light weighted, you know, it's like, you know, people want to be part of that, you know, I mean, actually, you guys are fun, you know, it's fun. Who cares about wars and politics? They're like, they're shallow. They're only care about celebrities. I want to do that. I want to be like that. I want so much money in time. I don't have to worry about problems. Everybody are hypocrites, too. I mean, especially Israelis. I mean, they're like, ah, Americans are nerd. They care only about Brad Pitt and Angela. And then they open the tabloids and they read it like sitting on the bass. It is. It's truly a human thing. It's every country has their celebrities. Every country has their things. Yeah. I wanted to ask you as gay artists, we know like pretty big gay artists in America here and they have their great stories of coming out as performers. How is it like in a different country? I mean, that must be very tough. I think it's just us. Just what we do, what we know to do, what we love to do. I don't know how to say that. I mean, I think once you're okay with yourself, then you don't care what the world thinks. I mean, there was a time when I was 20-something that I kind of like, oh, my career is going to be, you know, I want to have a career if I come out. Right. At the end of the day, I would always say I'd rather work at a bank. Sorry, bank teller. I'd rather work at a bank than doing music that doesn't push my limits. It doesn't show who I really am, my true colors and et cetera, et cetera. Exactly. In videos, like, you guys... That's part of it. That's part of it. Really nice videos. Our videos are a reflection of our lives. And we met at the beach, and that's how just another summer came. I like that. I kissed a boy and I liked it. Yeah. So everything is kind of semi-autobiographical, you know, in a way. Like, all my videos kind of show a part in my life that was at some point. And I like that. I like that. It's great. I don't know how many people do that, to be honest. I've always been. I know a lot of people... Now it's changing. But, you know, in previous generations, it was just too terrifying. Even now. I mean, look how long it took for P. Martin to actually say it and all that. But it's a lot of... Sometimes it's business... A lot of times it's business career, it's family, it's religion, it's all those things. But for me, I was like you... When I was 16, I figured it out. I went to the public library and I educated myself. And this is a different era, because I'm much older than you. I'm like 29. But anyway, I went to the library and I learned all about this. And I figured out that... I decided to myself, at 16 years old, I'm never going to lie about this. I may not go around telling people, but I'm not going to lie about it. I'm never going to make up a story about it. Because yeah, I mean, you have to be true to yourself. You've got time. If you're not, it's... What kind of life is it? I mean, I know a lot of people who are in the closet and they're married and have kids and all these things. And it's what it is. Yeah, I mean, it is what it is. And if that's what they choose, that's fine. But I mean, it's... There's a much better life. I don't know anybody. I don't know one person who's ever come out of the closet and then regretted it. Right. Wish that they were back in because it's so much... It's so freeing. You know what? That's not true. I mean, I know a few people that came out and were thrown out of their houses and their parents were talking with them, religious people in Israel, and they're like, you know what? I should have just kept my mouth shut. Really? I mean, sometimes. We know a few very big international superstars, singers that are not out and they don't plan to be out. They're afraid that it's going to hurt their career. But the good thing is, now with Ellen and all these people, Elton and now Ricky Martin and Yohannathan and Lyric, they're not gay. Oh, are they? Oh, that's right. They're the top gay singers of some. Yeah. But anyway, with more and more famous people coming out, see that my theory was this, that these super celebrity singers and so on, people in this industry, the first ones to come out were the ones that were not sex symbols. Because, let's face it, I mean, I'm sorry, Elton, but you're not really a self-sex symbol. So, I mean, we love Elton, but he's not number one sex symbol coverboy. But because the girls, the females, that's like a huge tremendous audience. But who knows? The girls love gays. Well, but a different way, not romance. They're dream of marrying them. They don't dream of marrying a gay girl. Well, I started out as a teen, you know, pop star in Israel. Oh, okay. Oh, yeah. My straight years, yeah. So, I had a following of like 12-year-old girls everywhere I went. Oh, my God. That's how I got my first break in Israel. Yeah, well, I noticed on the website it says you played at some festivals, like young kids' festivals. I did. It's a big festival in Israel. I was, for a while there, I was like a teen heartthrob about it. Oh, my God. That's so funny. I had posters in those teen magazines. So, what happened when you came out? Your audience changed. My audience changed. But you still have even a bigger audience? I lost the old one and got myself... You lost the 12-year-old girls? I lost the 12-year-old girls. Their mother said, No, you cannot watch that. They're writing me on Facebook, Oh, when I was 12, I used to love you. I'm 29, I'm with children. I'm like, shut up. I don't hear that. Shut up. Get away. Leave me alone. Now my gay son watches you. Yeah, I don't want to hear that. Now, listen to this. When I go to a club in Israel, people approach me. I mean, they're like... That was so funny. I mean, it looked really grown up. It was like... It approaches me and says, When I was young, I mean, I used to... I had your posters in those teen magazines and I used to jerk off. I can say jerk off. Jerk off on them. And I was like, go away. You make me feel ancient here. Just go away. I don't want to hear it. Did you autograph the magazine? Did they still have it? I have them, but... To be honest, I think... I don't know, maybe some careers do get damaged a little bit, at least at the beginning. I sure did. It kind of hurt me a little bit. But I think the art, if let's be serious for one second, the art and the creativity must improve once you're out because then you have nothing to lose. You have freedom to do whatever you want. When you're yourself, you can be most passionate about what you love and you always will be better than otherwise. Israel has even... Israeli artists have even a bigger problem than American artists. Gay, I'll tell you why. Because in Israel, you don't have you. You can say, you broke my heart in a song and you can eat our girl or a boy. In Hebrew, you have to say you, girl or you, boy. And that's the problem because you have to write a song, you've got to be, and that's why people become liars in Israel because they're known as gay men, they're not out as gay men, and they write you, girl. You see what I'm saying? And everybody you're getting, oh, where are you kidding? I just had sex with you last night. I have a little story about that. An ex of mine is a big celebrity singer and one time on the way to the recording studio to record a new album, we were in the car and he was playing the songs he's going to sing and I said, change the she to he. I said, I want you to change the she to the he. I told him, you have to change the she in the song to he. And he sang it with a he and he's like, oh, I can't do that. I can't do that. And I was like, yes, change the she to a he. And when we got there, he actually recorded it. I didn't find out till like weeks later, he actually did. He got into all kinds of trouble for that too. But he sang this he and they're like, oh my God, I think he did it a little bit under his breath, but you could tell he said he. It was crazy. I'll tell you something. Yeah, that one's not working. Are we good? That's good. We're good. Yeah, it was bizarre because he actually recorded it that way with the he. Well, I have a choice now. I transferred to English. So I made a conscious decision to include a lot of he and man because just for that reason, because I think it's important that if I just sing you, I love you. It doesn't really get the message across. So I'm making sure I'm writing all your demand I love or he's the one who broke my heart. So I think that's very important. I don't want to avoid that because it's easier now. Did anyone try and stop you from coming out? No. Well, I don't know. Well, yeah. Back in the days. 500,000 12-year-old girls. Back in the day. They stormed the theater. No. But go ahead. Back in the days when I had producers who wanted to mold me into being this teen, idol for girls. Yes, I mean they knew I was gay and I had a boyfriend at the time and it was very clear. You cannot go out with him. You can only stay indoors with him. There were very strict rules about what I can and cannot do. I couldn't go to a gay bar. I couldn't even... You know what? For one day I'll tell you a story. One day I went to see a film about and some documentary about gay men and the day after the biggest magazine, the biggest magazine in Israel wrote... Jonathan went to this movie what you guys think it means. So that kind of scrutiny you have that is crazy, you know? And so this didn't stop you or make you... You really wanted to just be yourself then? I didn't. I didn't go out with my... I had a boyfriend. I didn't hold his hands in public. We were like, but he's, hey dude, what's up? Or you, that kind of stuff. Right, right, right. It was very limiting. Very, very limiting. Well we have some friends that are... they're actually a couple and they're gay and they... and they started off at church. So we're not going to talk about religion but it was very difficult for them too. That's why I asked because you know, growing up in a church you're talking about God or whatever they're talking about and then they want to be able to express themselves as gay artists and they can't because who the heck in a church wants to hear that? Probably no one. Not in America at least. And so they have a very compelling story as far as them coming out and making the decision. That's why I asked, but that's great that you guys are so so out there like that. Well, you know, I mean that was really hard time for me back then, you know. Because the scrutiny is very, you know, I mean because you feel like you're lying to the fans. Now if they find out, then you become a liar. You know, you're a big liar, you know. And that's a problem because everything is writing on it. You know, your promotion, the way they package you, you know everything was, you know, building on me being that, you know idol for these girls, you know, to look up to and then try, you know, and that's why I couldn't do anything. It's like an industry. Yeah. It's not doing music for... It's not art. It's business. Yeah, it's business. It's business. When you focus on the... You know, we always believe you get more of whatever you focus on. Whatever you think about, if it's good or bad, it doesn't matter. If you think about something more, you get more of it. If you think about your health problems, you get more health problems. If you think about money problems, you get more money problems. What you believe. You think about... Create your own reality. How wonderful things are, you get more wonderful things. So when you think... When people are obsessed with business and money and all that, I think that it's stifling because then that's all they get. They don't really... Their art will suffer. They get up in the morning to make money. Money should be a mean. It can be the actual target. It's a symptom. It's a side effect. Yeah, it's something that... Yeah, it's an energy that comes from doing something you love. What you love, exactly. It can be a goal. It can be, oh, I get up in the morning and all day I look for money. I don't believe that. That's right. That's what I say. Our mission statement is to help as many people as we possibly can in the most profound ways possible. So that's what we're doing with our shows and all these things. You guys are doing what you love. I think that's the greatest thing in the world. You know? Well, I know for me when I came out, it felt, it literally felt like this huge weight on my shoulder had just been pushed over there to like my family, basically. Yeah, that's what I know. Because that's what I was putting all that weight on me. And I'm just free to be who I am. And so you guys last year had like the number one logo video music video? We worked 12 weeks in a row. Yeah, number one on logo. Excellent. With just another summer that tells the story of our falling in love. A summer night in Tel Aviv in 2006. Was that YouTube Kissing in the video? Yeah. I was reading about it on the paper in Australia, they're talking about that kiss. It got censored here. Really? Here? Yeah. Because they showed... That's sad. No, not really censored, but there was some, I guess in the shower scene they showed some pubic hair. You know, in where the... Just a line. Under where our... The line. And he sent us back to the... Cut. They sent us back to cut it. Yeah. Oh my God. What, do you mean to shave and trim it? Not to cut it, but... That's giving the CBS censored no-logo Viacom censors. He comes in with the clippers. We need to kind of airbrush it. We need to kind of... Did you really? Yeah, we need to kind of... But it doesn't have to do with logo. I think it's MTV Network Viacom. They have... They can go, you know... I mean, I get it. You don't want to see pubic hair on TV. But this is the internet, so you can show us. Go ahead, stand up and show us. No, but on a more serious topic. On the late night show. On the late night show? This is too early for me to talk. No, in the other room. In China, we're on the internet. In China it is. It's the middle of the night. All right, so all new Chinese out there. Everybody else, don't worry. Everybody else, close your eyes, and here we go. Here we go. So, okay, but no, on a very serious topic. If I go on Sunday night to therapy at 10 o'clock, what are my chances I'm going to get lucky with either one of you? You won't get any luck with him. My heart is in Israel. Yeah, he's heart is in Israel. Yeah, but your body's here. Yeah. This is New York. Yeah. What stays in New York, how does it go on? What happens in New York? No, no, no. What happens in New York? That's in New York. Okay, how about you? I'm single, but to be honest, I don't care for one night's fans anymore. No? No. Two nights? At least two nights. Three night minimum, is it like the highest? I don't know what, I tell you what, I used to be a big slut, okay, don't get me wrong. I did the route of, you know, circuit boy partying and blah, blah, blah, blah, but I'm kind of, it's boring me. I mean, I don't want to go, I don't want to spend, I don't want to have sex. I didn't have sex for a year, I got to tell you. That's God's honest truth, okay? I didn't have sex for a year, and I don't miss it. I don't miss it. I miss falling in love with someone, I mean, I don't, I don't miss the one night's tan routine. Romance, you miss. So, they won't get probably, they won't get lucky with me either, because, not unless you're falling in love. That's not where my mind is at. You could fall in love. I could fall in love. What about love at first sight? I believe that. Oh, well, if they get there at nine o'clock, maybe there's a chance, by ten. Yeah, but I don't believe in long distance, so it's kind of a problem. You have to move. Well, yeah. No. Yeah, it's, I don't believe that. What are the chances you're going to move to New York? Or the US? It depends. According to Psyche, it's very big chances I'll be here, so. Where? In the US or in New York? New York. What neighborhood? What? That's like, it wasn't that specific. Psyche wasn't that specific? Yeah, she wasn't that specific. I should have asked you. You should have gotten your money back. Yeah, I should have gotten my money back. But she was dead on, and a lot of stuff. What did she say about your, your lover? Actually, she said I'm going to end up with a woman, but let's not talk about that. Oh, well, there's a lot of dry queens in the, in the village. Maybe she just thought she looked like a woman. Maybe she mentioned a woman because that, that was me. Yeah, maybe it's a feminine energy. Feminine energy, and then I have my slate open wide, so. Your slate open wide. Maybe that was the wrong choice of words there. My English is bad. We come to America. We want to be happy, you know? So she's going to look like a woman, and I'm going to have a female heart, but be a man. Yes. All man. Actually, she might be referring to my cat. I have a female cat in Israel. I'm having sex with her for the past year. I was going to say, I don't think we can say that on the internet. And she feels a lot of my needs, I got to tell you. Oh my God. Yeah. Get pictures? I mean, I was like, to be honest, I was at a bar in Israel and this really, really cute guy wanted to, you know, take me home, snuggling with my cat or taking this guy home. Oh no. The cat won. He did. He did. Sorry, sorry guy in Israel. You're beat out by a cat. In any perspective, females out there might have a chance. Well, only if you're a guy, only if you're a pussy guy, you have to be, I mean, female cats. Not real female. Oh, because of the psychic, I see what you're saying. Yeah, well, you never see, there you go. But I am open for love. If you're in New York, whatever, it's like, if it happens, it happens. And if I meet somebody here that my heart will go boom, boom, boom, boom, I will, you know, and things will click when you have enough time to see if it works. I mean, I'll move for love. I will move, I will, yeah, tour myself from my house. So there is a chance. You know, those 12-year-old girls are, what are they, 29 now? No, I was exaggerating here, okay? Let's not get carried away. There are 12-year-old girls that are in love with Yohana. No, they're like 19 now. Yohana then. Yeah, they're 19 now? Yeah, they're perfect age. Maybe one of them is what the psychic saw. Yeah, well, I don't know, I mean, Are you open to dating a girl? Yes. I'm sorry, I know it's a gay joke, well, yes, I am open to. Are you open to sex with a girl? Or just dating? Yes, yes, I've had girlfriends and I believe in love, you know, what about a girlfriend and a boyfriend? Would you have one of each? To be honest, I don't know if it's politically correct to say. It doesn't matter. Not really, I'm starting to think I don't believe in relationships per se. I believe in communes, like, I believe the future is not going to be like two sims, it's going to be three, four, five people loving each other and together, and I think that's where the future is headed. We have a king-size bed. How do you call that? Cuckoos. Yeah, like a commune. Well actually, I see every article about this, they call them quads like with four guys or I don't know what they call them, trios or something like that. Or you could have four guys and two girls. I'll tell you what my thinking behind this is that at some point we realize that it's okay that one person is not all we're looking for. Is that what I'm saying? Because why do I mean relationships? It's an ego thing. Yeah, it's an ego thing. It's self-esteem. You complete me. Yeah. That's the bad thing. Yeah. It's okay to say. We're brainwashed by Disney movies. I know. And they lived happily ever after. What's wrong with saying I'm good, I get it. It's okay that I'm not, I can't give you everything you need. If somebody likes vanilla and likes chocolate and is dating a vanilla for 20 years. Okay, I mean why should the vanilla say no, you don't just have, I can't, you know, you can't have, it's like, you know, it's like love. You know, just accept who you are and then you will let, you know, it's like, I can't force somebody to go to a gelato and eat one flavor because, you know what I'm saying, it's... That's what I say. Isn't that exactly what I say? Well, we always say we like strawberry and we like chocolate. Yeah, we always say we're very limiting ourselves. We're very limiting ourselves, you know. We always say it's like eating out. Some days you want Chinese, some days you want Mexican, some days you want Swedish. You know, Giddish, you know. Giddish, whatever. You gotta tell you all, I have a wondering eye, you can ask him, we dated for two years. I have a wondering eye, but it comes not that, because I'm, when I feel the other person is, you know, and he was kind of like that at the beginning, like he was really jealous and he didn't like me staring at people. We always are in the beginning. And... Beach! The more... Yeah. Uh oh, here they go. Let's talk about those old memories. Yeah. No, no, no. That's true. I think in the beginning, everybody's a little bit insecure. They're like, oh my God, I think he likes me. Do I like him? Does he like me more than I like him? And all that crazy. And I think that's what marriage is about. You own me. I own you. That's what marriage is. Yeah. And then slavery is over. We don't have slavery. So that's the thing. We don't own each other and it's all fictitious. It's like a, well, there's a thing about politically incorrect gay marriage, the whole gay marriage thing. I think wonderful if you want marriage, I don't want it. It's the way I look at it is it's like, if we're all in a dungeon, we're locked up in a prison in a dungeon, right? Half of us are shackled to the wall and the other half aren't. And the ones who are not shackled to the wall say, well, I want shackled to the wall too for equality. We should all be shackled to the wall. To me, it doesn't seem like a benefit, but everybody has a choice. We should have the right to. You should have the right. I'm not saying I'm four. I mean, I care less to be honest about marriage, but I do care for, we should have the same right. If that guy has that right, I need to have the option to have that right. Exactly. And then I don't think there should be any benefits. Legally, I think there should be no legal benefits to marriage and there should be no legal penalties for marriage. I don't think the government should be in the business of marriage at all. That's true. I agree with you completely. What we really need to ask is why, we're never getting political, but why is the government issuing licenses for relationships? Has anybody asked this question? Do we need a license to be friends? Do we need a license to be, you know, anything? We're associates, you know, we're friends. It's old energy. It's old, old, old. So I don't want to, for me personally, I don't want that. So even if it's legal, everywhere, great, wonderful, for those who choose it, but I don't want it. I'm with Oprah. I don't want it. I don't want to be married. You know, we've chosen to be together for over 15 years, actually. And we're still, what, in our mid-20s somewhere in there? So we started a You're 21. I'm 21. Pre-adolescent. Everybody are surprisingly exactly 29 in this show. No, he's 21. Amazing. You're younger. But it's a choice that we make, and it's not, and it is a marriage from the traditional sense, but it's not all the walls that you build around that. We need to ring when you're finger on it. Yeah, we need to ring. So here's another thing. It's like, okay, this kind of goes all together. When you're talking about, you know, gay and politically correct and all that, you're supposed to grow up and meet the right woman, maybe get married and have kids. We've already broken all the rules, so why not just open our minds even further and say, well, why? Why does it have to be this way? Why does it have to be one person? Why does it have to be only one gender? You could have a boyfriend and a girlfriend. Or two girlfriends and a boyfriend. I'll fall in love with a girl. Who knows, maybe I'll meet a girl and she will drop my socks off I don't know if you said it. Knock your socks off. Knock your socks off. You got what I'm saying. Or both, actually. I just being English with. So, I mean, yeah, I mean, you never know. Love couldn't hit you in any given moment. That's right. And you have to be open to it. You have to. That's beautiful. And it can come up from behind. Well, let's take a question from the chat room. Let's see. Love to get a better sense of him, Jahanathan, I guess. What kind of music did you listen to growing up and then your top three songs on your iPod? Oh, that's easy. Your own, of course. Yeah, your own. To be honest. Other than your own. I'm going to really, you know, it's kind of embarrassing because I'm really gay when it comes to my music. I'm not going to say. We're not even by. Yeah, that will ruin my entire image. So I'm not going to. What kind of music do you listen to growing up? So basically, what influenced you? What influenced you? Wham. Wham. I love music. Madonna. And I'm different. Musicals. I'm different. And man, kill me now. I'm listening to tracks. Yeah. He's more straight. Oh, dance dress. A rock, to Radiohead. Yeah. To DJs like Dig Weets, Hasha. I like this stuff. Oh, dance. That's what I like. I like Culture Beat. The 90s. Snap. New radio clubs and things like that. Yeah. I like Madonna. It's okay for me. I drag him to the Madonna show in Israel. Oh, yeah? Yes. You drag him there? No. Well, yeah, he probably was begging to go. Yeah. No, but when we met, he couldn't stand. Oh, he didn't stand Madonna. But after, I kind of got him to see how brilliant she is. After confession to the dance floor. Yeah. And then he was like, oh, you know what? He got how brilliant she is. She could have a future of it. Because she's a person. She's a personality. This is not the music. You know, this is a... Showmanship. Yeah, she is. She's a performer. She's a performer. She's great. So I thank you for talking about Madonna and I can talk. I don't know how we have enough time there. But she doesn't get enough credit for her songwriting. I mean, she writes all the songs we love. We don't know that she's the one who's behind them. You know, lyric-wise, music-wise, from Papa Don't Preach to Eliza Bonita. These are all... If you look at the credits of her songs, she has like 80% of them she wrote. So she never gets enough credit for her art. That's why she makes a lot more money. Because a lot of the famous performers, they don't write their own music. Yeah, that's true. Like Whitney Houston, I don't think... Did she write any... No, but a lot of very famous singers, very, very famous, but they didn't write their own songs. When you write your own music, then you get all the royalties when they play it on the radio. And so what are the songs that you have? Three songs on your iPod besides yours? Just to give the audience an idea. Like just randomly? Three songs? Well, the ones that you listen to the most, I guess. Probably has 300,000. You got me there. Is it American? Yeah. Can you think of three songs on my iPod? He doesn't listen to your iPod, right? He knows, but he doesn't want to go there. Well, there you have it. From anything to Israeli music, to Madonna, a lot of pop, because I take the iPod to exercise, so I need some... Yeah, I don't like Mello's songs. I don't do that now. I'm that way, too. I like dance music. And my new album, by the way, is all dance songs, so that's a good one. Oh yeah, that's right. It's called Remember When. It's called Remember When. Hold it up there. It's available on iTunes, Amazon, you can go online, and find it. We're very proud of it. And so, for your tour, how does it work? You do singles and then duos, or how do you have it staged? Oh, it's a mix. It's a mix. Well, it's pretty much his first time on... we're breaking him into the stage, because he's my musical producer... Oh, that's a great point, a time to introduce Lira, because he's the musical producer of my music. We've been working together for years, and now, I mean, he's a great singer. He's a wonderful vocalist, and this is his first time really, you know, going out there and performing, and the responses on him were amazing at Portland. So, do you live after your name? Yeah, live up to your name, Lira. And what does your name mean? My Hebrew name is Lira. It's for me, Joy. Joy for me. You're Joy for me. He's Joy for us. And lyrics for the whole world. And also, this one is... Oh, that's just, yeah, that's a CD that has a lot of my old stuff. But the funny thing about my old stuff is that you guys are getting it now. It's new to us. And what we're going to do, by the way, audiences, is we're going to give away 10 of these CDs. So, if you get on Twitter, get under your Twitter account, and just tweet the URL bredtv, put that into any tweet, and we'll pick some random tweets at random, the first 10, well, not the first 10, just random 10, any time. Tweet the domain, and we'll send you a free CD. This is a very limited edition. We're releasing it digitally, because we believe that that's where the world is going to. It feels like such a waste of paper and waste of... We're trying to go green here, so we're releasing stuff mostly digital. So, because I think like in 10, 5 years, I mean, hard copies are going to be for fans that it has to have the original, you know, whatever music is going in a whole new direction. Totally, everything. I mean, technology, that's one of the things I host shows on technology, and we call this digits on a Frisbee. So, digits on a Frisbee are going to be like 8 track tapes and cassettes, they're over soon. But, you know, this is a good way to distribute it now, but soon everything is just download. That's true. To be honest, I buy a CD, I put it in my computer, I download it, the song, I publish it again. Or you give it away to it. I do that, but if I did, I would rip the CD and give it to a friend. Actually, you know, it encourages sharing just as much as downloading does. The way artists, this is kind of a side thing, but the way performing artists, in my opinion or whatever, believe is that artists have always made their money on live concerts and royalties from radio plays. And the actual record sales, they only got two cents for every album in the old days. Anyway, all the money went to the record company anyway. So actually, there's their famous bands, like Nine Inch Nails, I don't know if you've heard of that. They broke all records in revenue in sales from an album they released free. They put it for free on the internet and they asked for donations. They said, if you want a silver version, if you want a platinum version, we'll autograph it and all these things. Radiohead did the same thing. And they said, you decide how much you want to pay for this. You want to put a dollar, put a dollar. Exactly. And Nine Inch Nails broke all records. They made millions of dollars in the first 10 days or something like that by releasing it that way. The reality is they didn't really lose anything because all that money went straight to them instead of all going to the record company suits, the men who made nothing but money. And then meanwhile, all the money went to the band, the performing artists. If you support art, I say, download it. As an artist, if it were me, I would release it free, absolutely free. And then you still make all your money on the live performances if it plays on the radio. When you're starting out though, it's more difficult because I believe in releasing stuff sometimes for free. Until you get to the audience to come and see you, digital sales and all that kind of stuff helps you to keep on going. Otherwise, you know, that would be a problem. Yeah, promotion. So we're on iTunes. Spotify. Where else are we on? Everyone. Shockhound, LimeWire, Nokia. Come on guys, help me here. CityBaby, that's right. It's all in there. Everything is linked there. Yeah, it's on there. By the way, Madonna, if I quote Madonna about that subject, they asked her, what do you think about the music situation, like the industry? And she says, there's one thing they can't take away from me and that's my life performing. No matter what. That's where they make all the money anyway. You can't duplicate Madonna. You can hologram her and see her. I mean, you need to see her. Well, I've seen a couple of dry queens try, but it's not the same. There's not much money on the tickets, for sure. We went to see her. Madonna's going to Turkey, she's 200 years old. Yeah, I would be worried about that. I think she is like 180. She looks good. She looks good for her age. She's incredible. She's fantastic. We love Madonna. We went to see last night Cheyenne. Have you guys ever heard of him? No. He's a very famous Latin music star. In the Spanish-speaking world. He was playing at the Square Garden last night. It's a huge place. I don't know how many, 50,000 people or something. It's huge. Or maybe less. He was playing with his new Evo phone. We'll have as many people at therapy. I was actually streaming it live, as I was watching it. He has this new Evo phone. It's so cool. HD camera and all this is the latest thing. It just came out a few weeks ago. He's streaming the concert live on the internet from his phone. It's crazy. This technology is amazing. I'll do the same when I see you on Sunday. That's cool. One more thing with Johannathan's name out there. Johannathan and Lyric. Johannathan and Lyric. Are you going to bill yourselves that way? Is Johannathan and Lyric? Right now, we're two different artists. We're doing two different music. Different music. We believe in launching our music together. Because you collaborate so much anyway. We have a dance act on stage. Really? We're kind of... Are you going to do that at therapy? They have a stage there? It's going to be small steps. Is it upstairs or downstairs? Upstairs. Will you be changing your name? Because I know you've had a different name before. That was in my... We're two different artists that are just working and collaborating together. It's like if Lady Gaga and Madonna went on the road together, it will be like Madonna. They call Madonna. How does the dynamics continue when you're up on stage and you're nervous? You'll see for yourself on Sunday the dynamics. When they get nervous, they take off their clothes. And it's... It's your pubic case. He has a boyfriend, so there are certain things... There's a limit to what I can do to him on stage. Maybe we shouldn't stream it live. Is your boyfriend in town? No. His boyfriend is very tech. He'll probably be there. He'll be there virtually. He's going to find a way to be there. That guy knows stuff no one else knows. He has a hacker mind. We've got a tour coming on. This is our second gig. Read us the dates then. After New York, that's the 27th. Pride Day. You're going to be in Ottawa, Canada on June 30th. Correct. And then we're going to be in July 2nd and July 3rd in Petersburg. St. Petersburg. Flamingo Resort for you gay guys in St. Petersburg. That's like Tampa. It's never been there. It's very nice. Make sure you go to the beach. Are there cute boys? No, but you can bring your own. It's a gay resort. There are no cute guys. No, it's BYOCB. Bring your own cute boys. But you can bring them from New York. You'll have plenty of chances on Sunday. I hope other people will bring there. Take theirs. We share. We're talking about community. You're going to be at the Metro in Jacksonville, Florida. And July 9th as well. And August 11th. So you've got three shows in Jacksonville. I know. That's a college town. That's a big college town. Cute college boys. Can we make that even sooner? Back in Canada, August 1st. Vancouver, British Columbia. Pride Day. Gay Pride there. We're in Vancouver. You're going to love it there. It's gorgeous. And we want to shout out to Marcus Payne of Marcus Payne Management. Thank you, Marcus. We recognize this entire tour. We're the best. We're lending these guys to us for the day. We got them for the whole day, right? Help. We got them trapped over here. Yes, they're sandwiched. They're the meat in the bread sandwich. You know that, right? And thanks for Timo for all the laughs. Yes, yes. Studio audience. Peanut gallery. Oh my God, it's so exciting. Are you going to write on any floats in the parade? In the Gay Pride parade in New York? No, I'm seasick. You're seasick? It's not on the water. It's going down the street. It's close and sickness. So you can't march or anything? I can walk. I dance on stage. Have you ever seen the New York Gay Pride parade? No. Wow. Be prepared for a long day of standing. One time we stood there and we missed the beginning and we missed the end. We were there seven hours. It goes forever. It's like the never-ending parade. It never starts and it never ends. We're actually marching this year. But it shouldn't take long because you only get there right before it starts. Where is the center? And then you walk. Where does it go from where to where? I don't even know. No one knows. It starts in Brooklyn and ends in Queens. No. We don't know. It ends in Mexico. I don't know but we'll Google it. We're going to be really hot there. It's going to be a hot day. It's Sunday, right? Oh boy. You better get plenty of sleep on Saturday. We're actually marching so it won't take as long to get the parade. We're marching in it so it won't be as long. We don't march. You're going to have a long day on Sunday. You're going to do the parade all day and then you're going to perform all night? No, we're not going to do the parade all day. Let's not get carried away here. We're probably going to say hi to Tim Moss on his... He's in drag on the back of the camera. We're probably going to say hi to him. We're going to have a leather thong. Oh that's the issue. You know last night we were at Madison Square and I was going to say the concert and Oscar says that's... What's her name? Shakira? And I said, oh that's the chick that copied Tim Moss in the video. I haven't seen it. There'll be a link in the show notes. You have to see Tim doing Shakira to dive. It's on YouTube. The link will be in the show notes. Check it out. I think we should do a video together. Absolutely. We're going to do a lot of things that work. Yes. Don't forget you have to tweet us and we'll send you new CDs. Send a tweet that says breadTV, B-R-E-D-T-V dot com. That URL in any tweet and you'll be entered. We'll pick ten random people who tweeted that and we'll send you some of Yohannathan's new CDs. You can go to his site yohannathan.com to check out the tour schedule for the concert. By the way, for those who are listening to the audio only, it's y-e-h-o-n-a-t-h-a-n dot com. I know it's the longest name in the world. Yihonathan yihonathan.com Let's go by Yihon. Let's do the music and we're out. Thank you so much guys. Love you. See you on Sunday at therapy. I'm kidding you, you look terrible. You're going to die. Yeah. You'll take the picture. I got a new cigarette. Yeah. Let's see what he's writing.